In anticipation of ICS coming out. as it was just released for the atrix 2. I was wondering how do i go about rolling my phone back to stock to get ICS or Can i just got straight on with an OTA?
djshadowxm81 said:
In anticipation of ICS coming out. as it was just released for the atrix 2. I was wondering how do i go about rolling my phone back to stock to get ICS or Can i just got straight on with an OTA?
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1) wrong forum
2) no you cant get an OTA with nottach (use search feature to find a stock rom)
3) when an update is made available there is a 99% chance someone will post a CWM/TWRP flashable zip within hours/days.
4) use search feature to find things before making posts in the wrong forum.
Random Canadian said:
1) wrong forum
4) use search feature to find things before making posts in the wrong forum.
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1 Didn't know...
4.. I did quite a bit. thank you
either way thanks that all the information ineeded
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30540799&postcount=2
djshadowxm81 said:
In anticipation of ICS coming out. as it was just released for the atrix 2. I was wondering how do i go about rolling my phone back to stock to get ICS or Can i just got straight on with an OTA?
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Wait, what country is your phone from? There's different versions of the Atrix, but there's next to no visible differences. They can't take the same firmware without a fix.
Any blur based ROM can receive updates from Motorola. However, this is not a good idea if you have an unlocked bootloader since there is a high risk of hard bricking your device. This happened with the 4.5.141 update, and the same could happen again (assuming we ever get ICS).
The safest option is to wait until an ICS fruit cake is available.
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How do you know if you have the stock firmware on your phone.
By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
zephiK said:
By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
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I have done root, clock mod, AP mod, and changed the boot animation. The reason I was asking is I was just curious so I would know if I will get the OTA updates.
geocepe said:
I have done root, clock mod, AP mod, and changed the boot animation. The reason I was asking is I was just curious so I would know if I will get the OTA updates.
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What you asked previously was "STOCK" firmware. If you haven't flashed a ROM then you're on "STOCK" firmware but you did modify some parts of it with MobileAP so I don't know how that would play about.
Simple Solution.. its on the stickied post
IF I ROOT, WILL I GET OTA UPDATES?
Yes. Rooting will not prevent this, unless you flash a custom ROM that will block receiving the OTA update. If you do receive and download the OTA update, you will lose root. Typically within hours of the OTA becoming available, thanks to some fine XDA folks you can get the update WITH root. You would simply need to download and flash the update like a normal ROM.
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Even if you dont get OTA, you wouldn't want it anyway because OTA gives the update to people in GROUPS and not every single person gets the update at the same time. So you can get yours two weeks after the first batch got the update. When a OTA is released, somebody will post the link for rooted and non-rooted users to manually push the update. So there isn't a need for OTA. Just look around the forum for it when its actually out.
zephiK said:
What you asked previously was "STOCK" firmware. If you haven't flashed a ROM then you're on "STOCK" firmware but you did modify some parts of it with MobileAP so I don't know how that would play about.
Simple Solution.. its on the stickied post
Even if you dont get OTA, you wouldn't want it anyway because OTA gives the update to people in GROUPS and not every single person gets the update at the same time. So you can get yours two weeks after the first batch got the update. When a OTA is released, somebody will post the link for rooted and non-rooted users to manually push the update. So there isn't a need for OTA. Just look around the forum for it when its actually out.
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Thank you for the info. Sorry I didnt word it correctly to begin with.
geocepe said:
Thank you for the info. Sorry I didnt word it correctly to begin with.
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Yeah it just seemed weird asking if you have stock or not. It honestly doesn't really matter because in the end, you're still going to get the update even if it isn't OTA.. you'll just end up manually pushing it which is better than OTAing.
zephiK said:
Yeah it just seemed weird asking if you have stock or not. It honestly doesn't really matter because in the end, you're still going to get the update even if it isn't OTA.. you'll just end up manually pushing it which is better than OTAing.
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Its funny. The people you talk to in this forum know more than the people you talk to at the manufacturers. You have a great point in that i shouldnt care. Thanks again for the info
geocepe said:
Its funny. The people you talk to in this forum know more than the people you talk to at the manufacturers. You have a great point in that i shouldnt care. Thanks again for the info
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That's because for them its a chore but to justify it they get paid. Here, we do it because its something we actually ENJOY doing (well.. not all of us like to help people) and we're more enthusiastic.
I never deal with customer support unless its something out of my hands.
When you flash simple mods like MobileAP or a new Battery icon, will it pose problems when you update, say to Froyo in the future?
zephiK said:
By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
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I can see how he can get confused. I was a little when I 1st started paying attention to the whole Android scene.
Stock could mean a few different things to different people.
1. Stock = NOTHING CHANGED period at all. not even mods.
2. Stock = Rom that shipped with the phone with a few mods
3. Stock = A flashed "true stock" rom
4. Stock = an Google Android STOCK rom aka AOSP
I still go by the saying that their is no stupid questions just stupid answers.
another thing, thanks for at least posting this in the correct forum haha. A lot of the other members get really PEEVED when they see postings in the wrong area.
richan90 said:
When you flash simple mods like MobileAP or a new Battery icon, will it pose problems when you update, say to Froyo in the future?
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I wouldn't think that it would cause any issues updating to 2.2 with mods like the battery icon. I'm unsure of the MobileAP though cause 2.2 has it built in. I would prob remove that to be safe before you update. I'm still learning too so lets wait till a more seasoned member could give ya a better answer.
backslide311 said:
I can see how he can get confused. I was a little when I 1st started paying attention to the whole Android scene.
Stock could mean a few different things to different people.
1. Stock = NOTHING CHANGED period at all. not even mods.
2. Stock = Rom that shipped with the phone with a few mods
3. Stock = A flashed "true stock" rom
4. Stock = an Google Android STOCK rom aka AOSP
I still go by the saying that their is no stupid questions just stupid answers.
another thing, thanks for at least posting this in the correct forum haha. A lot of the other members get really PEEVED when they see postings in the wrong area.
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Thanks for the input. Im real new at this but Im starting to catch on. The group of people on this forum are real helpful.
backslide311 said:
I wouldn't think that it would cause any issues updating to 2.2 with mods like the battery icon. I'm unsure of the MobileAP though cause 2.2 has it built in. I would prob remove that to be safe before you update. I'm still learning too so lets wait till a more seasoned member could give ya a better answer.
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2.1 has it built in too.. its just the U.S. versions of the Galaxy S has it removed because of the carrier.
Just think of "STOCK ROM" as the default ROM without any modifications. That's the best explanation of it.
Hey everyone I just flash the new T595UVJ14 firmwire from the developers forums, and I just wanted to know if I would still be able to get froyo update over the air when it become available, or do I have to flash it back to the stock rom?
Kld4ever2008 said:
Hey everyone I just flash the new T595UVJ14 firmwire from the developers forums, and I just wanted to know if I would still be able to get froyo update over the air when it become available, or do I have to flash it back to the stock rom?
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Most likely the devs in this forum will have froyo ready for you before the ota comes out anyway. If they dont someone should have a flashable version within a day or so of the ota anyway.
Kld4ever2008 said:
Hey everyone I just flash the new T595UVJ14 firmwire from the developers forums, and I just wanted to know if I would still be able to get froyo update over the air when it become available, or do I have to flash it back to the stock rom?
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Well an OTA of Froyo isn't coming anytime soon from the looks of it.
Regardless of that you have to keep in mind HOW these OTA updates are pushed. They're done in batches, so when an OTA goes live it could take anywhere from HOURS to WEEKS before your particular phone would be one of the ones in a given batch push.
In all likelihood you'd be able to get the OTA update here as a flashable recovery or Odin3 image long before you'd get it from the carrier.
Thanx for the response. I hope that when 2.2 froyo's out I should be able to flash it.
eugene has the froyo 2.2. check out his work on the development section..
Right now I am running stock vibrant software with the kingklick oc kernel, oncl, and stock 2.1 unlock screen.
My question is when froyo comes out (hopefully soon) will I be ok to install the ota update. Our do I need to uninstall the lag fix and other mods.
Thanks in advance.
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You would have to change your kernel, and it's best if you do a wipe when installing any new rom, especially a new firmware.
Does a froyo update not replace the kernel?
I had a similar question. Stock, unrooted Vibrant.... I got the JI5 update last week over Kies. Then I read that T-Mo had said not to install it. Are the odds good that I will have to jump through hoops to get the OTA when it finally comes?
Dammit2Hell said:
I had a similar question. Stock, unrooted Vibrant.... I got the JI5 update last week over Kies. Then I read that T-Mo had said not to install it. Are the odds good that I will have to jump through hoops to get the OTA when it finally comes?
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The odds are you will need to Odin back to JFD to get the update via OTA.
However the odds are also that you will find it packaged here ready to Odin before you get it via OTA. OTA's are pushed out in batches, not to every single phone at once, so it can takes days or weeks for an OTA to complete for every device.
If you're already here (and it appears you are), you will know what to do when everyone else here does.
Dammit2Hell said:
I had a similar question. Stock, unrooted Vibrant.... I got the JI5 update last week over Kies. Then I read that T-Mo had said not to install it. Are the odds good that I will have to jump through hoops to get the OTA when it finally comes?
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I'm in the same spot as you. I've got a vanilla Vibe and jumped on that Kies update =)
It's a great update and fixed the GPS issue but regarding the OTA, I'm sure we'll find out what's going on once the T-Mobile updates start rolling. Fear not, you're in the right spot.
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The odds are you will need to Odin back to JFD to get the update via OTA.
However the odds are also that you will find it packaged here ready to Odin before you get it via OTA. OTA's are pushed out in batches, not to every single phone at once, so it can takes days or weeks for an OTA to complete for every device.
If you're already here (and it appears you are), you will know what to do when everyone else here does.
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Thanks for the info.
I've been around a while just lurking & learning. I've been dieing to root this phone (first android) but didn't want to do it and turn around after and return to stock for 2.2. It does look like we will have a rom before it comes OTA anyway.
I'm sure someone will take the Froyo OTA and make a Clockwork Flashable Rom if you dont want to ODIN. So hang tight and check back because believe me that as soon as the OTA goes out, it will be on a download mirror for all us in less than 24 hours.
Its a game.
They come out with something
The Devs make it flashable
They leak something
The Devs make it flashable
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They leak something
The Devs make it flashable.
Anyone happen to know, or even a guess why telus would remove the GB update from their site. I've read about people have various problems with the updating, but from what I read, those problems were PC related.
Mine worked just fine.
I also have a question... is it possible to dump a stock rom and/or radio and/or kernel without having root?
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Maniac
Can anyone confirm if this is true?
That is sort of strange. Im glad I was able to get it in time. And rooted too
People were losing SD cards on telus also.
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Can anyone tell me how I can rip the rom, cause I've tried the method found on these forums for the fascinate for froyo, but when I tried to odin it back it didn't work.
So right now I'm almost afraid to shut the phone off just in case I can't boot and I have no way to get it back to stock GB.
Mainly what I want to do is make a factory image that I can put somewhere for others to download it. Cause I want to try some things but I can't until telus puts the update up again.
Maniac
fromthestars said:
That is sort of strange. Im glad I was able to get it in time. And rooted too
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I think Telus was getting all kinds of questions on when it would be available when they had no control over it - so they made a generic upgrade page.
I just tried with Kies and I got GingerBread BUT I'm also staring a long time at a galaxy S screen - lost my clockwork mod recovery as well (back to stock 3E).
Hmmmm - anyone know if this update is still available online somewhere as I have no OTA to get it and of course as the thread says... TELUS has pulled it.
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Hmmmm - anyone know if this update is still available online somewhere as I have no OTA to get it and of course as the thread says... TELUS has pulled it.
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Its back now
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Its back now
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Hmm, When I load Kies it tells me I have the most current firmware.
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Hmm, When I load Kies it tells me I have the most current firmware.
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I'm pretty sure to upgrade through the Samsung Kies software, you will have to remove any mods / hacks that you made to your phone.
Best option probably is to flash everything back to Stock, which I did. Then had no problem updating via Kies:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923712
Alright I'll give that a shot tonight, the only 'mod' I have done would be rooting the phone - other than that it is stock at this time.
I guess the one thing I really shouldve mentioned in my first reply is I have the Fascinate 4G with TELUS, is the update specific to the 3G+?
evanwier said:
Alright I'll give that a shot tonight, the only 'mod' I have done would be rooting the phone - other than that it is stock at this time.
I guess the one thing I really shouldve mentioned in my first reply is I have the Fascinate 4G with TELUS, is the update specific to the 3G+?
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Oh wait! If you have the Fascinate 4G+ (T959P) then you may not want to flash everything back to 2.2.
I'm not 100% sure that it may work with 4G Fascinate.
Can anyone validate the following steps will work on his Fascinate 4G+ ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923712
They are different phones. If you could get the 3G+ file to flash at all (which I doubt), it would almost certainly semi brick the phone. There is an update section on telus website for fascinate 4G (just below the 3G+ entry) (no update available today). When you see the update available there, you're good to go.
I have the 4g and I won't flash anything made for the 3g. Two different phones. I remember reading a thread about people bricking the 4g while trying to put 3g stuff on it.
Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Not necessarily. There are advantages to moving to a custom rom. Look over relevant stickies (at the top of subsections), review the OP of roms, read user feedback, then decide.
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so. With some minor tweaks (removal of bloatware, mostly) and the right apps, stock is working just fine for me. I'll wait until we have ICS source and some new ROMs based on it before I go custom.
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
Miami_Son said:
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so.
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LiLChris06 said:
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
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Actually until the download site problem is completely resolved, it doesn't hurt to root, then make a backup of the stock ROM to keep just in case. If you do need it, then you've got it, and it doesn't take that much space.
Yeah, considering how often download sites go boom nowadays, keeping a local backup is probably a good idea.
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
butikofer08 said:
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
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Miami_Son said:
Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Going back to stock is a download and Odin away.
Then you can go to the magical Official ICS that will probably not come out anytime soon.
I'm going to wait until the end of march since that is officially when Samsung says they will have it for the galaxy series. Now I know that doesn't mean squat what with carrier delays and all that crap that slows the update process down,
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
butikofer08 said:
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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That manager wanted your money.