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So, we saw Jelly Bean released at I/O, we heard great stuff and all but still one question remains:
When is the next Nexus phone coming? If one looks at the trend in the past years, this happens ~end of year *however* typically coinciding with the next *major* release of Android.
Since JB was just an incremental upgrade (4.1 and not 5.0),
1) do you think we will see Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) released before Christmas and,
2) do you think there will be a Nexus phone to go with it?
What say you?
I'm not sure.. but if you follow Google's pattern (2010: nexus s+gingerbread, 2011: galaxy nexus+ics) there will be another nexus and and android 5.0 announced this fall..
However, considering that JB (along with nexus 7) was just released and ICS haven't celebrate its first birthday, it's too soon for Google to announced another major upgrade..
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I think we will see next Google Nexus, with new Android version, only next year at Google IO 2013.
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Gorjess said:
I'm not sure.. but if you follow Google's pattern (2010: nexus s+gingerbread, 2011: galaxy nexus+ics) there will be another nexus and and android 5.0 announced this fall..
However, considering that JB (along with nexus 7) was just released and ICS haven't celebrate its first birthday, it's too soon for Google to announced another major upgrade..
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I really don't understand why people think like this. Google pays engineers hundreds of thousands of dollars to work everyday on software improvements. Yes, Jellybean just came out...do you think that means their high paid engineers are just going to take 6 months off? No. The software is ever changing and improving daily, and when they feel it is a large enough improvement to be dubbed the next Android version..and not 4.1.1, 4.1.2, it will be so. It could happen today, it could happen next week, it could happen next year.
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I really don't understand why people think like this. Google pays engineers hundreds of thousands of dollars to work everyday on software improvements. Yes, Jellybean just came out...do you think that means their high paid engineers are just going to take 6 months off? No. The software is ever changing and improving daily, and when they feel it is a large enough improvement to be dubbed the next Android version..and not 4.1.1, 4.1.2, it will be so. It could happen today, it could happen next week, it could happen next year.
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I'm not saying that Google must stop developing, but they need to find the right time to release their update.. I'd say Q1 2013 would be just right, enough time for both JB and N7 too settle, make some more improvements and to counter Apple's upcoming iPhone 5.. it's not about speed, it's about timing..
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I would buy Nexus even with JB. That isn't the issue for me anyway. I hope the rumor for several Nexus from different manifactures would come true and we can choose at least.
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I would buy Nexus even with JB. That isn't the issue for me anyway. I hope the rumor for several Nexus from different manifactures would come true and we can choose at least.
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I disagree. One of the best things about owning a nexus is the dev community. With 5 different Nexus devices, the dev community for each will be smaller...
lowandbehold said:
I disagree. One of the best things about owning a nexus is the dev community. With 5 different Nexus devices, the dev community for each will be smaller...
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Yes you are right. But if the software is one on every device would be not a biggy for the dev community. At the end more choices about build quality would be nice. Maybe it is a bold idea.....
2010 = 2.2 (May)+2.3 (Des)
2011 = 3.0 (feb) + 4.0 (oct)
2 OS versions each year.
So it'll be
2012 = 4.1 (june) + ?? (oct/nov)
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2010 = 2.2 (May)+2.3 (Des)
2011 = 3.0 (feb) + 4.0 (oct)
2 OS versions each year.
So it'll be
2012 = 4.1 (june) + ?? (oct/nov)
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Probably 4.2
(way to early for a "huge" update to push it to 5.0)
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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if a new nexus doesn't come out till Q2-3 2013 just because they just announced JB and the next version probably won't come out just yet. I doubt they will launch a Nexus device without a new android version.
The nexus program is currently changing with google giving multiple manufacturers early access to next build. Current info indicates Google will begin the new strategy by releasing multiple (supposedly 5) nexus phones by different manufacturers unsubsidized next November.
You can find the original source WSJ article by googling "wsj.com: google changes tack on android" (i would post the link but i'm new and can't post links until 10 posts.
I have a feeling they will release another Nexus phone this Nov/Dec. It will probably be android 4.2 unlike 5.0 that everyone is expecting.
2Ghz, 2GB RAM, 1080p screen please
Probably when Apple unbans the current Nexus phone.
xrCore said:
I have a feeling they will release another Nexus phone this Nov/Dec. It will probably be android 4.2 unlike 5.0 that everyone is expecting.
2Ghz, 2GB RAM, 1080p screen please
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Yeah same specs as we hoped for S3 :laugh:
I don't think it will be 2Ghz....more likley it will be 1,6-1,8Ghz. And 1,5GB Ram. With the whole new screen technology it will take time to get 1080p with a decent battery consumption. But till the end of this year i am sure we will see another Nexus phone
Next Nexus?
I think it all depends on the legal system. If the ban on the Nexus stands up It may take awhile to make the changes needed to get around the injunction.
I think they'll release it this year with 4.2. As one of you said, 2 versions a year.
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I don't think the dev community will split across devices. Let's not forget the definition of Nexus is to be a *reference platform*, meaning that:
- all hardware components are standard (OMAPx, sound and radio, etc)
- all components have all source + drivers available (no Samsung lock-down crap)
Imagine the dev community working but the user base x5, I'd say this would be awesome...
November is good but then unlikely/unrealistic to believe devices would be available worldwide within 2012. Pondering if I should get me a Galaxy Nexus for the rest of the year, then see what is on offer
When does Google announce it's Nexus devices? I'm wondering if I should get the Galaxy Nexus, or wait till their next release. I thought it was at the I/O conference, but that would mean that they wouldn't release a new phone for another year.
Any ideas?
as a developer you are better sticking with a realistic target and not with the latest and greatest, also many of the latest tablets and phones are not so exciting and comes with old hardware.
Considering what is on the market i don't think that Google is in a hurry for new Nexus phones.
Its been little less than one Month since the nexus 10 launched. I was just wondering how long it will remain the best? Does anyone have an idea as to when the next and better ones come out? Would this last us at least for an year before getting dethroned by maybe a nexus 10 II or something ?
goodburner said:
Its been little less than one Month since the nexus 10 launched. I was just wondering how long it will remain the best? Does anyone have an idea as to when the next and better ones come out? Would this last us at least for an year before getting dethroned by maybe a nexus 10 II or something ?
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It will remain the best until someone comes out with something new. Could be Tomorrow or a week later or a month later.
You want a specific date something new from a different manufacturer will be announced in January at CES.
Seriously buy the device based on what it can do for you. If you are thinking of buying the device based on what it can do in future you are gonna be disappointed.
It's a Google nexus device. Google released it as a reference device for other manufacturers to build upon it. If you go with Google release cycle expect a new nexus next year same time around they announced nexus 10.
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Samsung is rumored to have a transformer type of tablet released at CES 2013 in January.
If my 4th Nexus 10 replacement also comes with light bleed I'll get a refund and move on. $500 is too much money too see light bleed.
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goodburner said:
Its been little less than one Month since the nexus 10 launched. I was just wondering how long it will remain the best? Does anyone have an idea as to when the next and better ones come out? Would this last us at least for an year before getting dethroned by maybe a nexus 10 II or something ?
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I think it will last until Google releases the next version. Other tablets may come out with better hardware, but after getting a taste or pure Google Android I doubt I can go back to the ****ty old versions with ugly skins over them. That's just me. I browse the web, remote desktop to my pc, and watch movies so I have a pretty defined use case.
It will be over when there is a Nexus tablet powered by quad-core exynos 5 with 8-core GPU
I really like this tablet (all but the light bleed and the lack of a good charger, with the latter being not really a big deal) and am still planning on getting one as soon as they're back in stock next year IF the light bleed is fixed in the next batch. But, after seeing the news yesterday.about the Motorola/Google Flagship X devices (Phone and subsequent tablet), I'm really tempted to wait for that tablet seeing as it will also be a Nexus device and have Motorola's awesome build quality (After my first Nokia brick phone way back in the day, every device I owned after was Motorola, and I love their build quality.) I know for sure I'll get the phone since my 2 year will probably be up on my Nexus by that time, but I may also wait for that tablet.
Anyone else who's been waiting to buy the N10 feeling the desire to wait it out a bit longer?
I do, but not because of the x tablet, I am not a big fan of Motorola so. But I think I will wait until CES 2013 and see if there's anything worth waiting for, if not I'm not even sure about Nexus 10 anymore, Samsung's Note 10.1 seems like a better choice somehow.
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I do, but not because of the x tablet, I am not a big fan of Motorola so. But I think I will wait until CES 2013 and see if there's anything worth waiting for, if not I'm not even sure about Nexus 10 anymore, Samsung's Note 10.1 seems like a better choice somehow.
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I'm not completely unimpressed with Samsung's build quality, and I love my Galaxy Nexus, but I just like Motorola's better.
I'm also hoping to see something that excites me at CES, but I won't have anything but a Nexus device. I want something that I know developers will be paying attention to and not some off the wall device that might get one or two custom ROMs.
arrtoodeetoo said:
I'm not completely unimpressed with Samsung's build quality, and I love my Galaxy Nexus, but I just like Motorola's better.
I'm also hoping to see something that excites me at CES, but I won't have anything but a Nexus device. I want something that I know developers will be paying attention to and not some off the wall device that might get one or two custom ROMs.
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I understand, I've used Motorola several years ago before the smartphone era and they were some really good phones, but there's no other brand I would prefer but Samsung when it comes to phones, and I'm leaning that way for the tablets as well.
And totally, I'm actually looking forward to see Samsung's new announcement which it's most likely going to be a reveal for S 4, but still I'll wait to see if it isn't a new tablet that could be worth waiting for. And that Samsung Note 10.1 is really tempting me lol.
arrtoodeetoo said:
I really like this tablet (all but the light bleed and the lack of a good charger, with the latter being not really a big deal) and am still planning on getting one as soon as they're back in stock next year IF the light bleed is fixed in the next batch. But, after seeing the news yesterday.about the Motorola/Google Flagship X devices (Phone and subsequent tablet), I'm really tempted to wait for that tablet seeing as it will also be a Nexus device and have Motorola's awesome build quality (After my first Nokia brick phone way back in the day, every device I owned after was Motorola, and I love their build quality.) I know for sure I'll get the phone since my 2 year will probably be up on my Nexus by that time, but I may also wait for that tablet.
Anyone else who's been waiting to buy the N10 feeling the desire to wait it out a bit longer?
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Who knows when it will actually be released, much less if the rumor is true. I'm sure good things will come from Motorola eventually but probably not for another year. If Motorola comes out with a mind bogglingly good tablet then I'll sell the Nexus 10 and grab it...I'm not going to hold my breath though.
Honestly, I can put up with the Nexus 10 not being perfect because its a Nexus device and I can build the OS from source, I know it will be supported for a good while, and its damned fast for browsing.
I've had 4 different tablets in the last year or so...none of them were perfect.
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Two variables:
What gets announced in January & if the N10 is fixed in the next batch
Those two things will decide where my $500 goes
I love my n10 but I'll definitely be following the x tablet.
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What gets announced in January
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The challenge in waiting for "_________" is that by the time it hits the market there's already been a leak about the better "__________" that may be on the horizon (which we know moves). Asus announced the TF700 in January 2012 and it wasn't available for purchase until July. Samsung announced the Note 10.1 in February 2012, redesigned it after it was shown, and it launched in August. The N10 cleared the FCC in August and just recently was made available for purchase. Moral of the story: buy what you like now, take good care of it so you can resell it for a decent price, and buy what's "new" when it's at least up for pre-order. When leaks come out about products in development with nothing but design direction there's usually a long wait until they actually hit the market (EG: whatever Motorola's theorizing). When you start to see component leaks and shots by Mr. Blurry Cam that means it's closer but can still mean months.
I might depending what its like but im not a fan of Motorola so i doubt it will be something attractive.
From what I've read, the X devices are not part of the Nexus brand, they're 100% Motorola. Don't expect stock Android and direct updates from Google- or, well, now that Moto is part of Google, I mean direct updates from the Android team.
Nope... because every article States the thing silk probably not be out for a year or two. Wonder if x though is like nexus. The x is the prominent letter and even the bout animation logo. I've been waiting for Google to do something with Motorola for awhile. Google could rectify their horrible business plan easy. Now that Samsung is owning the market with android products and has made Asus a tablet leader outside Apple, I think it is now safe for them to throw their own subsidiary a bone and make a nice Google Motorola device. Might be to late on the end though.
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From what I've read, the X devices are not part of the Nexus brand, they're 100% Motorola. Don't expect stock Android and direct updates from Google- or, well, now that Moto is part of Google, I mean direct updates from the Android team.
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I doubt they would waste an opportunity like that.
For all we know it will be called the NexusX.
I'm just glad I bought a device that will stand against several next best things in the future.
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wireroid said:
From what I've read, the X devices are not part of the Nexus brand, they're 100% Motorola. Don't expect stock Android and direct updates from Google- or, well, now that Moto is part of Google, I mean direct updates from the Android team.
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This. Ask any owner of an Atrix (myself), Photon or Electrify. They'll tell you just how great #motofail is in terms of software updates. You get ONE. Better hope your device ships with the latest version of the OS, because otherwise you just get bumped to the next major revision instead of anything near what is considered current and suddenly you're screwed, even if they promise you otherwise. The lack of proper kernel source means custom roms are unlikely to completely save you as well.
Still planning on getting my N10 in early January. If a more reputable company like Samsung were to announce something like the rumored X, I'd wait. But @#$%^ no for Motofail.
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The challenge in waiting for "_________" is that by the time it hits the market there's already been a leak about the better "__________" that may be on the horizon (which we know moves). Asus announced the TF700 in January 2012 and it wasn't available for purchase until July. Samsung announced the Note 10.1 in February 2012, redesigned it after it was shown, and it launched in August. The N10 cleared the FCC in August and just recently was made available for purchase. Moral of the story: buy what you like now, take good care of it so you can resell it for a decent price, and buy what's "new" when it's at least up for pre-order. When leaks come out about products in development with nothing but design direction there's usually a long wait until they actually hit the market (EG: whatever Motorola's theorizing). When you start to see component leaks and shots by Mr. Blurry Cam that means it's closer but can still mean months.
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+1
Anyone who tries to stay on the bleeding edge of a rapidly moving technology will be in this situation perpetually. Something better is always on the horizon. At some point you have to pull the trigger, even though something better has been announced, and may or may not be right around the corner. I tend to be an early adopter of generational improvements (A15 and super high res screen in the N10). There will be better devices in this category, but by the time you wait for the "perfect" device, the next generational improvement will be right around the corner. Until you accept this reality, you'll always have buyers remorse.
I wouldn't touch motorola with a 10 foot pole after the crappy end of life support debacle like the atrix 4g. This might be an exception since google will back it up. Never again Motorola!!!!
Per WSJ, X tablet will be after X phone, so it'll be a while.
The more interesting bit was that Viewdle (face-rec) should be incorporated, so we should see some aspect of AR in 5.0 release. Niche uses aside, AR hasn't had any wide application in an OS. AR would be Glass' main ace.
Though, I think 5.0's over-arching theme will be TV integration. Apple is making noises, and MS will intro X720. Goog can't afford to fall behind. Miracast should play a large part, not only to leverage TVs as big displays, but for tabs to act as 2nd screen.
Frankly, tablet hardware bores me now. It's MOTS. What's interesting are wearables, and Glass is supposed to make its debut in 2013. You can bet that both MS and Apple are burning the midnight oil on their own skunkwork response.
Depending on how versatile wearables (eye-top?) will be, the tablet may hit the skids as quickly as it got on. I'm thinking 2013 for the coming-out, and one or two years for the first retail product.
I personally will wait for a Nexus device with Miracast. I really hope the N10 will get Miracast after all...
It's either the Nexus 10 for me or a Quad core A15 / Nvidia tegra 4 tablet. Hope they get announced at CES/MWC
I don't do enough gaming to need a beefed-up graphics chip in the SoC in my tablet, so for me the Nexus 10 works fine. I'm a graduate student, so much of what I do is just reading PDFs, books, and magazines. I listen to music and watch YouTube, neither of which will be necessarily improved with a faster SoC. The screen on my Nexus 10 is brilliant and I couldn't be happier with what this tablet does for my needs. Plus, Samsung > Motorola. I know I may be in the minority here, but this thing is a Nexus, and it's made by Samsung, two things that I look for in a device.
So I'm kind of amazed there isn't a thread on this rumor yet. What better way to reenter the tablet market than with a nexus! For me, personally, this is a dream come true. I think that HTC uses the best displays of any manufacture currently and I would love to see one in a tablet. Maybe a 2k slcd4?
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I am so going to get it if HTC makes the next gen n10... Boom sound front facing speakers with that aluminum metal body would be just awesome... Smart move by Google to compete with them ipads
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Considering the price of Nexus devices, I don't think HTC, if it makes the next gen Nexus 10, will use aluminum metal body. Samsung already did a good job in terms of build quality of the current Nexus 10.
Hope next gen Nexus 10 can be as light as the iPad Air.
EnIXmA said:
I am so going to get it if HTC makes the next gen n10... Boom sound front facing speakers with that aluminum metal body would be just awesome... Smart move by Google to compete with them ipads
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Can you please post link to this roumor
Thank you
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Can you please post link to this roumor
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http://news.yahoo.com/htc-reportedly-working-google-nexus-10-tablet-122516053.html
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I would take all these rumours with a pinch of salt and then add another sack of the stuff.Wasn't that long ago we were hearing various release date rumours and now we are hearing rumours of a new manufacturer.Basically Google haven't even found a supplier yet let alone a delivery date! Personally I don't think there will be a replacement hence why I bought the old nexus 10 after waiting and waiting and waiting and eventually giving up on RUMOURS of a new device coming soon.I do hope to be prooved wrong though.
I posted a comment about a future Nexus 10 when the current one ran out of stock in US. It was sometime ago, but I'd like to share how the next Nexus 10 should be for me .
(when asked what would the next Nexus 10 should have) For now I will keep my Nexus 10, it's still a beast device as I stated and I like to keep my high end devices for at least 2 years. But there are some things that could be upgraded ^^.
First - More storage. I bought the 32GB and I still think it's not enough. Probably a 64 or 128GB version would be amazing, as it's a media consumption device it requires storage, as not everyone can use cloud services, and a full HD movie is quite big.
Second - Add LTE option like they did with Nexus 7.
Third - Use Snapdragon 805 or Tegra K1 processor, they are true beasts, and tablets need to push more pixels, so a better graphics processor is important.
Fourth - If going with the Tegra K1, it would be an interesting (actually it's more of a dream of mine here, very hard for this to happen now) to have a 4K screen, current Nexus screen is already killer, a 4K would be a mass destruction device lol. While it's still a dream the 4K screen on it, they could make it LED at least, so the complaints of light bleeding would reduce drastically.
Fifth - Samsung, Asus, Sony or Motorola create it. Samsung sucks with software, but the software here would be Google, so it's no problem. Asus proved to be a great tablet developer with the last Nexus 7s. Sony has the most beautiful devices ever, and adding water resistance to a Nexus would be very cool. And Motorola developed Xoom, which is a great device and the godfather of Android tablets, would be great to see them developing a new one. (As rumors seems to be, this one won't be any true lol, but I have expectations that HTC can do a good job too).
Sixth - More RAM would be appreciated ^^'.
Seventh - More accessories at a better price would be of great use too.
And I think it's only that I can imagine for the next Nexus. There aren't main flaws on the current one now. Almost all the problems went away with the KitKat upgrade, and I'm happy with it .
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andytl said:
I would take all these rumours with a pinch of salt and then add another sack of the stuff.Wasn't that long ago we were hearing various release date rumours and now we are hearing rumours of a new manufacturer.Basically Google haven't even found a supplier yet let alone a delivery date! Personally I don't think there will be a replacement hence why I bought the old nexus 10 after waiting and waiting and waiting and eventually giving up on RUMOURS of a new device coming soon.I do hope to be prooved wrong though.
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I expect there will be a new Nexus 10 because it is out of inventory and has been for about a month.
If they were not restocking it or replacing it with a new one then why is it even listed on the play store site and why does it say check back soon?
When they no longer make or offer something it is removed from the site.
So it seems obvious that something will replace it.
IMO, the rumors of who will build it have no basis.
The sites who post thees articles get paid by the advertisers.
To get paid they need to draw people to the site.
They write one thing one day and something totally different the next, sometimes contradicting themselves.
Personally I heard Sony will build it at Dell and label it as a Samsung tablet and sell it in an HTC box and it will run Android 7.3 (nestle crunch).