Hey all,
I know a lot of members here at xda are affected by the camera quick launch feature. Some are not even aware of it. However, it did come to my attention that for the ones that stated their quick launch is working every single time, it is likely because their devices are not sleeping properly.
If you are one of the members that has a perfectly working quickly launch, please check your battery usage and see if your device is sleeping properly. Also, please make sure you run a few tests to ensure that your quick launch is working following these instructions.
1) Power on your screen with the top left power button, press again to power off and let screen idle for about 15-20 secs.
2) Activate the quick launch from black screen with the dedicated camera button. Repeat for 5-10 times and report your success rates.
Most people will notice that after the first few tries, it can take up to 2-4 times to activate quick launch feature.
I hope all of the xperia S members take part in this and convince Sony that they have to focus on this issue. It has been left unfixed for far too long. please follow this link and voice your issue there.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/53257?tstart=30
We need a fix or a straight forward answer.
Mine worked first time, but then the next NINE attempts all failed
I'm running .50 unofficially though, as the .45 update hasn't even made it to the UK yet, so Sony would probably say in my case its because I have hacked firmware :banghead:
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warface said:
Mine worked first time, but then the next NINE attempts all failed
I'm running .50 unofficially though, as the .45 update hasn't even made it to the UK yet, so Sony would probably say in my case its because I have hacked firmware :banghead:
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No, Sony just need to understand that A LOT of people are affected by this issue. Most members dont even know they have this issue until they tried, thus Sony is sort of down playing this issue thinking that only a small fraction of people are suffering from this bug. But the truth of the matter is that a lot of people are suffering from it. As long as you flashed the .50 firmware and the bug is there, it will be there for you even if you get the official update from PCC, it makes no differences.
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No, Sony just need to understand that A LOT of people are affected by this issue. Most members dont even know they have this issue until they tried, thus Sony is sort of down playing this issue thinking that only a small fraction of people are suffering from this bug. But the truth of the matter is that a lot of people are suffering from it. As long as you flashed the .50 firmware and the bug is there, it will be there for you even if you get the official update from PCC, it makes no differences.
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The funny thing is it works perfectly fine for me everytime i do it, and my phone also enters deep sleep mode, it was on for 40 minutes, and 36 of those minutes, it was sleeping
My xps has been on for 31 hours, and has been deep sleeping for 19 of those hours....
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Lol. Is it a big issue I don't think so. If somany users never tried the option why is this a headache.. Forget it.. It's you who are raising UN necessary option as issue.. People just try to live politely then there will be no issues unless you purposly personaly think as a issue..
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Lol. Is it a big issue I don't think so. If somany users never tried the option why is this a headache.. Forget it.. It's you who are raising UN necessary option as issue.. People just try to live politely then there will be no issues unless you purposly personaly think as a issue..
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you're an idiot. quick launch was one of the main selling points of the NXT series and you're saying that it's not a big issue that it's not working properly?
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Lol. Is it a big issue I don't think so. If somany users never tried the option why is this a headache.. Forget it.. It's you who are raising UN necessary option as issue.. People just try to live politely then there will be no issues unless you purposly personaly think as a issue..
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An issue is an issue whether big or small! Buggy camera Quick Launch is the biggest issue for me on ICS, because I use this feature a lot (and only to see it fail many times). I understand that such a feature might not be of importance to you, but it is to many like me. So, kindly be considerate to others' issues than being outright dismissive !
not a big deal
i don't use the camera it self for about 3 weeks and i didn't get the phone to use the camera
so it's not affecting my daily use of the phone call me idiot or what ever as you did on your last reply but trust me we using human made product and you have to expect bugs and faults of any kind and solving issue could take time so be polite nothing will change you have to phone keep it or give it away.
Lusterboi said:
Hey all,
I know a lot of members here at xda are affected by the camera quick launch feature. Some are not even aware of it. However, it did come to my attention that for the ones that stated their quick launch is working every single time, it is likely because their devices are not sleeping properly.
If you are one of the members that has a perfectly working quickly launch, please check your battery usage and see if your device is sleeping properly. Also, please make sure you run a few tests to ensure that your quick launch is working following these instructions.
1) Power on your screen with the top left power button, press again to power off and let screen idle for about 15-20 secs.
2) Activate the quick launch from black screen with the dedicated camera button. Repeat for 5-10 times and report your success rates.
Most people will notice that after the first few tries, it can take up to 2-4 times to activate quick launch feature.
I hope all of the xperia S members take part in this and convince Sony that they have to focus on this issue. It has been left unfixed for far too long. please follow this link and voice your issue there.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/53257?tstart=30
We need a fix or a straight forward answer.
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Is your phone stock? Or rooted / bl unlocked any other mods?
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Worked 10 times out of 10 tries
Mine Works 2 times Out Of 6 Times !
mine working faster than b4
but when it take a pic after i delete it & go back
to camera it take another shoot by it self
Tried 15 times, success every time. My phone enters deep sleep quickly and is working fine in that respect.
Locked bl, 50 fw with root and bloat removed.
Tbh this is now the best phone I have owned. Battery life is not awesome, but lasts from morning till night easily with some to spare, and I'm a fairly frequent user
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Lord Takyon said:
Tried 15 times, success every time. My phone enters deep sleep quickly and is working fine in that respect.
Locked bl, 50 fw with root and bloat removed.
Tbh this is now the best phone I have owned. Battery life is not awesome, but lasts from morning till night easily with some to spare, and I'm a fairly frequent user
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For the members stating it worked 100%, did you make sure to let the phone idle on the black screen for at least 15 seconds in between ?
Hm, mine is working but i noticed something else - every time i'm at the office, where the reception is pretty bad, the phone is constantly awaking. when i'm at home, where the reception is really good it's sleeping very well. So, do you think the bad battery life might be something related to poor reception? Also is there a way to disable totally the quick launch, i never use it and if i can get better battery life with disabling quick launch i'll be more than happy to do it.
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For the members stating it worked 100%, did you make sure to let the phone idle on the black screen for at least 15 seconds in between ?
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Just kept trying at random times, screen was always off at least 5mins.
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d_ave said:
Hm, mine is working but i noticed something else - every time i'm at the office, where the reception is pretty bad, the phone is constantly awaking. when i'm at home, where the reception is really good it's sleeping very well. So, do you think the bad battery life might be something related to poor reception? Also is there a way to disable totally the quick launch, i never use it and if i can get better battery life with disabling quick launch i'll be more than happy to do it.
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Poor signal does drain the battery faster, it has to work harder
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Just kept trying at random times, screen was always off at least 5mins.
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Poor signal does drain the battery faster, it has to work harder
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when the phone gets a long idle, it will usually work on the first try. however if you try to let it idle anywhere between 15 seconds - a few mins, it will have trouble in between. usually if i leave the phone alone for 2 hours and try, it will always work too. however once i activate the first time and try again in a minute or two, fail rates are extremely high.
and if i sounded angry for calling someone an idiot before, it was because he tried to be an ass and made me look like a bad guy for pointing out a bug in the phone. i'm usually very respectful towards other people.
First time i had this Bug was on GB wenn i've installed vintage and the QL-Button seemingly couldn't find out which app to choose . after setting the camera app to default it worked until ICS... but since my clean-install of .50, the rooting and the removing of all the bloatware its gone and its working every single time for me, no matter how long i wait in between or whatsoever.
maybe another problem for unlocked BLs like the BE b/c mine is locked.
This morning i tried with data off and let the screen off for 20s and 4/8 success rate! Now i tried with data on! Do the same success rate is 100% 9/9! Might me my line, my messenger, whatsapp keep the phone a wake!
Don't forget to hit thank, if i deserve it!
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Hi guys
I'm looking at getting this phone in July when it's released in Canada. I just want to know how many people who bought the most recent phones are having problems with screens (yellowing), and the battery/reboot issues.
I love this phone but now I see all the problems it has I'm not as inclined to buy it...
Thanks,
Elliott
Starholdest said:
Hi guys
I'm looking at getting this phone in July when it's released in Canada. I just want to know how many people who bought the most recent phones are having problems with screens (yellowing), and the battery/reboot issues.
I love this phone but now I see all the problems it has I'm not as inclined to buy it...
Thanks,
Elliott
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Can you get this thread closed by a mod and then create one exactly the same but add the option "I have no problems"?
i honestly dont have any issues with it..
Crap sorry I forgot that option...
Thanks for the replies
no problems with mine either. best phone ive had - easily.
I have the yellowing screen, but tbh, only when I searched for it, I noticed, on normal daylight outside or inside, while txting or browsing net, by watching movies or playing games, you willl NEVER notice it, unless you are looking for it. and its only when its showing darkgrey color and only when brightness is less than 50%, that was the only condition I was able to see it, any other color will NOT have this issue, and if you have combination of more colors, you have no chance to see it...
This cannot annoy me more than the fact that I will send my SGSII for repair and be without it for 2 weeks and then get it back with new display, but same issue..
Again here ... NO issues at all. Amazingly good phone!,
I have not noticed any battery or spontaneous reboots on my SGS. I bought it in early June.
Neither did I notice the yellow banding, but this does not mean that it is there.
no problems so far
I got my phone a week ago today, had no issues at all its a fantastic android, the best I have ever owned.
5 bad pixels here. No other issues.
No problems at all with the phone, best one I ever had
(and I'm now in my 50's, so I've had a lot of phones)
The unlucky people with problems are a bit like the unlucky HTC Desire owners, when it first came out many had to be returned for repair.
I dont have any of these problems. I got my phone 17th June
My battery used 0% of the battery while being inactive for 12 hours
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bruflot said:
I dont have any of these problems. I got my phone 17th June
My battery used 0% of the battery while being inactive for 12 hours
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I'd find this rater unusual than great... you probably would like to check if your battery is showing the stats correclty
bruflot said:
I dont have any of these problems. I got my phone 17th June
My battery used 0% of the battery while being inactive for 12 hours
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Zheiko said:
I'd find this rater unusual than great... you probably would like to check if your battery is showing the stats correclty
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It's obviously not. It's not actually possible for it to use 0% of the battery and remain on. Hell - the battery would run dry if it wasn't even in the phone, given enough time, so it's never using 0% unless it's actually empty!!!
fellow canuck here using it on Fido. love it. no problems here. I never turn down my brightness below 100%, seems like a slap in the face to all the engineers who helped develop the super AMOLED+ screen
I got mine 7 days ago and it's back in it's box ready to go back! I should say I'm getting another one though.
Mine had a very poor microphone, so poor infact that when I called myself and left a voicemail, I couldn't understand it Also had a reception issue, and was generally a lemon!
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was one of the very first to get the aussie SgsII, was delivered on june 1st, no issues what so ever
knock on wood.
Thanks for all the responses guys. Any more would be great!
Yes, I have searched the forum but only found old posts, nothing pertaining to ICS about this.
I've had this problem since 2.3, and it's kinda annoying.
When I press the unlock button it takes around 2sec for the phone to wake-up.
I thought this was supposed to be fixed in the verisons after 2.3, and now I have 4.0.3 and it's still present.
Anyone else have this problem?
Is it a Google or Samsung problem. Can it be remedied?
Xemaniac said:
Yes, I have searched the forum but only found old posts, nothing pertaining to ICS about this.
I've had this problem since 2.3, and it's kinda annoying.
When I press the unlock button it takes around 2sec for the phone to wake-up.
I thought this was supposed to be fixed in the verisons after 2.3, and now I have 4.0.3 and it's still present.
Anyone else have this problem?
Is it a Google or Samsung problem. Can it be remedied?
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dose it happens by pressing home button ?
Yup
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Well if you want, you could stop your phone going into deep sleep and have less battery life
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Nah, don't wanna clock it up.
But is this a common problem or just some unfortunate people that have it?
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I have same problem with any stock or custom rom and is verry annoying.
It's normal. I use CM 9 and I'll hit the home button on my sleeping phone now...and it took around 1 second to wake up.
There isn't anything you can do about it.
As Riz said last month, would you rather your phone deep sleep & conserve battery when you're not using it & take a second to wake up or would you rather have a permanent wakelock & resultant battery drain in order to have it wake up in a few tenths of a second ?
I mean, we are talking about a second here. Not half a minute or something.
Yay! You got a new sig!
It always makes me wonder what people expect with these threads....it's like when you wake a pc up - it isn't instantaneous...and is a second really too long to wait?
Yeah I couldn't resist ;-)
Yep you're right. People do expect too much sometimes, as you said, how long does a PC take to wake up from hibernation ? Phone takes no time in comparison.
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Yay! You got a new sig!
It always makes me wonder what people expect with these threads....it's like when you wake a pc up - it isn't instantaneous...and is a second really too long to wait?
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I don't think the Iphone has this kind of delay?? The same can be said to other phones too
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I don't think the Iphone has this kind of delay?? The same can be said to other phones too
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next your gonna tell us the moon is made of cheese really
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next your gonna tell us the moon is made of cheese really
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I just see more complaints about this on the S2 more than any others that's all...
cheesy moon sounds good btw.
first of all srry for the stupid name....
hey guys this thread is all about bugs you ever expirienced on sony tablet S1
guys i request all of you to share ur expiriences with this buggy tablet........all the screen shots are below
isuues i had the past week are>>
1)flickering
2)the bottom touch bar dissapears(the one with touch buttons dissapeared)
3)camera failed(last screen shot)
4)sleep of death(no screen shot)
Most annoying one is the
ZERO BRIGHTNESS
this issue occurs frequently for me when the brighness is set to full...
sometimes when playing games or watching movies,the screen brightness turns to 0
this is not a screen timeout issue as i set it to 30 minutes:
check the second last screen shot for this
remember i had these issues in the past week
USEFUL LINK>>forward all your complains here>>>http://community.sony.com/t5/Sony-Tablet/S1-User-Auto-Shut-Down-issue/m-p/102691#M1518
Issues reported yet>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBtOAIHuExo
purudpd said:
first of all srry for the stupid name....
hey guys this thread is all about bugs you ever expirienced on sony tablet S1
guys i request all of you to share ur expiriences with this buggy tablet........all the screen shots are below
isuues i had the past week are>>
1)flickering
2)the bottom touch bar dissapears(the one with touch buttons dissapeared)
3)camera failed(last screen shot)
4)sleep of death(no screen shot)
Most annoying one is the
ZERO BRIGHTNESS
this issue occurs frequently for me when the brighness is set to full...
sometimes when playing games or watching movies,the screen brightness turns to 0
this is not a screen timeout issue as i set it to 30 minutes:
check the second last screen shot for this
remember i had these issues in the past week
USEFUL LINK>>forward all your complains here>>>http://community.sony.com/t5/Sony-Tablet/S1-User-Auto-Shut-Down-issue/m-p/102691#M1518
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I only have the camera issue. Nothing else
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AW: Ultimate issue reporting...S1
I ve got exactly the same issues .
But my s often shutdown by itself and sometimes my wifi connection broke away
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jumper62 said:
I only have the camera issue. Nothing else
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if tablet freezes sometimes the os restarts without actualy restarting the camera driver causing issues with camera, i asume it works after a reboot which further proofs my point.
just report their freezing issues shutdowns don't really matter their related to each other.
Zer0K3wL said:
if tablet freezes sometimes the os restarts without actualy restarting the camera driver causing issues with camera, i asume it works after a reboot which further proofs my point.
just report their freezing issues shutdowns don't really matter their related to each other.
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yes...it works after reboot,but is very frequent issue..
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yes...it works after reboot,but is very frequent issue..
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point being issues are related because your forced to shut it down and reboot its just as anoying >_>
Wow..TS has many issues.
As for me, My camera is buggy and the flickering i think is a common known problem.
Sleep of death happened to my tablet before but very rare. I used the reset button to revive it.
I've never experience the missing status bar or brightness issue.
lerijiso said:
Wow..TS has many issues.
As for me, My camera is buggy and the flickering i think is a common known problem.
Sleep of death happened to my tablet before but very rare. I used the reset button to revive it.
I've never experience the missing status bar or brightness issue.
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Well it defiantly was't known at sony, heck why they made thread their the xperia tablet s also have these issues all related to sony poor memory management probably that will be fixed in jelly bean for xperia tablet s.
Screen tearing and camera probs that's it. I feel this would be so easy for sony to fix lol
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I'm glad more people reporting issues now.
now i understand shutdown issue on tablet s1 little better to now older android visions it would freeze like sleep of death.
guess since last update they also implented time out function in tablet s1 i guess because they consider it less anoying and normal........
well guess its time for them to stop slacking and stop doing work around fixes and fix the actual problem.
On my xts i have:
1. screen flickering mostly while reading pdfs or browsing
2. have expirienced shutdowns while browsing 4-5 times total
3. youtube playback buggy as hell
i think 1 and 3 are ics 4.0.3 bugs and should be fixed with jb(if that comes out in the near century)
I'm done with sony i think.
sony products i have problems with
3dtv with no decent pair off 3D glasses because latest one's flash you right in the eye with a blinking led thru eye glasses which is the most shameless issue they never ever fixed.
a 3D blu ray player i need and squeeks like a pig sometimes, a ps3 that can't play a game in 3D thats listed as 3Dtv supported game.
a ps3 that can't play 3D blu ray's with dts trueHD bitstream in 3D even tough its a new ps3 slim
Looks like sony is as bad as samsung, guess sony is the second brand i'll fully boycot........
my world becoming really small now i think i slice my self to death, because the world is filled with idiots like sony that only wanna make your life as bad as possible while stealing your money.
I might asswell just grab my money grab a lighter burn my money its same thing as throwing money at sony or samsung...........
Screw this corrupt world......
Good luck boycotting im sure youll take Sony down for sure lol
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Good luck boycotting im sure youll take Sony down for sure lol
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If i have to boycot them i'll consider ending my life also.
Seriously don't wanna life on a world where 2 big brands have upset me and keep acting corrupt.
Sony eitherway has to apoligy for issues and compensate everyone make this known on any tech site xda xperia blog etc tweakers.net
i won't trust sony again otherwise......... they should have done this already.
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If i have to boycot them i'll consider ending my life also.
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Woah, woah, woah... I think you are getting stuff waaaaay to seriously. Chill the f out men, its a tablet, not a 300k house.
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Woah, woah, woah... I think you are getting stuff waaaaay to seriously. Chill the f out men, its a tablet, not a 300k house.
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last 3 years if been thru lot presure, my childhood was awfull, never got any help anywhere.
I'm not the kind off guy that suicide over just a tablet, but when i see nothing but corrupt world everywhere, i can only feel sad and depressed and verry angry........
Don't wanna life that way, if seen nothing positive happening so far, sony is the ultimate proof that its only about making money.
and that every big company is a evil company.
They contribute nothing to decent well payed jobs for people like me, for that i hate them.
I think we all become way to tolerant in this world that big company's like sony or samsung keep crossing the red line, if been thinking for long time now its time to put that line back few miles back again.
spoke to peterT on skype
the tablet s1 issue has been re produced by the devs, peterT him self has't been able to re produce it.
peterT is't respondsible for android at all btw, but he has meeting with the devs pushing devs to even release jelly bean for tablet s1 and roll out updates much faster, trying to proof that we customers have issues more often then they find them.
he's bassicly just community manager doing what he's supose to be doing.
Anyway i don't really have any news for now, if their is news he'll will defiantly post about it.
It would help btw if you guy's gave this a try
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...S54dHJhbG9naWMuYW5kcm9pZC5sb2djb2xsZWN0b3IiXQ..
And send logs over to [email protected] and include what tablet you own the tablet s1 or xperia tablet s
i'll check the logs then for any specific errors see if their pattern in these logs i am asuming they all have the same errors.
if set this mail acount up just for logs btw if you wanna add me on skype you can send me a pm with skype details and i'll add.
just trying to understand issue.
another test can consider doing is not playing video's at all for least 2 day's see if you still have shutdowns and freezes.
I observed on my s1 gen tablet issues:
1) screen flickering - light blue area blinks when useing high resources consuming apps ( video, search, antutu, virus scan app etc) blink takes about 0.5-1s its hardly noticed but it appears.It creates right triangle like figure with right angle at the lower right corner (system overlay bug? miniapp bug, graphic ? demuxer?)
2) sony movies app didnt rotate , problems with watching streaming videos from internet ( for about some time playing video slowing down -> app stops the message appears 'you can not play the video' .I have it after r5,r5a update
3)stock browser self shutting down ( usually when open 4-5 cards with sites includes java objects, banners , graphic etc) when opening again all these sites loading again, even if I turn off tablet. ( browser must have assigned own ram from system and remembers it - overload it may result shutting down) I suggest include rule to clean ram when app closes.Also with dev option bacground process limit max 4 processes on
4) sometimes standard (stock) keyboard self minimalises during posting on eg xda forum, sony community forum. to continue I must click on area again to show keyboard again.
5) sleep of death after r5,r5a . Reproduction for it: reading ebook with sony reader app or adobe. Tablet is chargeing (in dev option : debug , stay awake , allow mock - all turned off) display (sleep after 30min) , wifi turned on .
No other app on background except readers .Next leave tablet for about 45min.
After 30 min screen turnes off - the problem is the power button doesn't wake tablet. Need push restart button or about 10s power button to start the system again
6) loss wifi signal, disconnects in vary routers. Long time waiting to connect to network after sleep mode
7) camera app sometimes force closes - stops responding after taking a picture, the picture or movie doesnt appear on low area plate-like. Need clear camera app data to fix it. But this problem is in future again and again.
9) I dont know if its is issue but I demanding exFat support on sony tablet s, video and music unlimitted on more countries
thats all I think about. If it will be fixed I will be full satisfied
Got call from chris mcdonalds, this issue has just gotten high priority to be fixed asap, he told me to be patient because this issue is known and is taking bit longer to be fixed.
Anyway if their is news i'm first one to known will receive this news within 2-3 business day's
I experienced all the issues and much more, the status bar disappearance issue is due to the System UI trying to render but there is other stuff forcing itself in while the device is trying to stop malfunctioning but the tegra chipset is not helping at all meaning that it is too much for the graphics, I do have a screenshot of the log somewhere.
That issue occurs when while your in the application draw in ultimate lag, opening the notification shade will only hide the status from the bar and not show it in slowness causing too much so the Android System attempted to try to do something about it but the issues where so bad that the "2 force closes detected must stop application to gain stability" feature in the Android System cannot do anything about it since the "application" keeps opening since it is an important part of the Android System so the Android System opens the application but there is too much code and bugs going in the same time that there is too much conflicts causing it to force close constantly and sometimes the launcher can join in with the conflicting killing the wallpaper and flashing the application draw switch and guest mode switch, sometimes it really goes so bad that it crashes in a loop to the boot animation onto the system with the system ui force closing constantly, lagging causing the system to crash the system server (yes that is how it ends up in the boot animation) going into the same loop and to brake the loop you need to power the device down.
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Zer0K3wL said:
spoke to peterT on skype
the tablet s1 issue has been re produced by the devs, peterT him self has't been able to re produce it.
peterT is't respondsible for android at all btw, but he has meeting with the devs pushing devs to even release jelly bean for tablet s1 and roll out updates much faster, trying to proof that we customers have issues more often then they find them.
he's bassicly just community manager doing what he's supose to be doing.
Anyway i don't really have any news for now, if their is news he'll will defiantly post about it.
It would help btw if you guy's gave this a try
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...S54dHJhbG9naWMuYW5kcm9pZC5sb2djb2xsZWN0b3IiXQ..
And send logs over to [email protected] and include what tablet you own the tablet s1 or xperia tablet s
i'll check the logs then for any specific errors see if their pattern in these logs i am asuming they all have the same errors.
if set this mail acount up just for logs btw if you wanna add me on skype you can send me a pm with skype details and i'll add.
just trying to understand issue.
another test can consider doing is not playing video's at all for least 2 day's see if you still have shutdowns and freezes.
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I have so much issues and logcats that Gmail cannot fit in and after sending them in Sony will not fix them even though I sent them over 50 emails with all those issues.
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Let me start this by saying I LOVE the Nexus 10. It's the most comfortable tablet I've used and the screen is just phenomenal, aside from that, the random reboots are really dragging down the experience. I'm sure there still have to be people having these issues, and what are you doing to combat/keep the tablet from rebooting? I've factory reset my device probably 5 times since my purchase in January, and have installed a few ROMs to try and stop them to no avail. I'm currently running CM10.1 with KTManta and are still having crashes daily, if not every 3-4 hours of heavy use. Location services are disabled, and Chrome is nowhere to be found. How many here are still having these issues? I'm just trying to grab a realistic number here for the community. Would those who are having freezes and reboots like to contribute to a global list where we could possibly list all of the applications that we use to see if there is a common ground amongst us? I just hate that this awesome tablet is being placed on the back burner for now with what would appear like no indication of upcoming fixes. I'm sure IO will bring us a more stable version of Android (4.2.2 is pretty awful) but that's still quite a bit away.
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There are two awesome threads that this is being discussed on, one is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998496 the other is a Google thread referenced in that same discussion.
I may have had a comepletely different problem, but a RMA made my N10 go from bad to good experience
Been running 4.2.2 official AOKP with default kernel for the last couple weeks and haven't had 1 freeze/reboot. Battery great also with around 7-8 hours of screen time.
4.2.2 was a huge improvement
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I am currently on a CM10 base and KTManta kernel and I have no reboots or other problems at all. I had been on AOKP PUB for quite a while before this and it was fine too, and before that I was on a really old build of CM10 (4.2.1) for a long time with only a couple issues due to memory leaks that caused a reboot once every few days.
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There are two awesome threads that this is being discussed on, one is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998496 the other is a Google thread referenced in that same discussion.
I may have had a comely different problem, but a RMA made my N10 go from bad to good experience
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Your second device isn't rebooting?
Edit: To OP. I gave up combatting it. Nothing seems to work. It could be an app but when it reboots sometimes every few days that would be hard to troubleshoot. I can swap an app list with you if you want although it may be more beneficial to see those the apps of those with no issues so you could have a starting point?
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I own this device for ~4 weeks now and I haven't had a single reboot, freeze or anything.
Of course I understand that not everybody is this lucky, so I feel sad for you guys but it seems to be more hardware reliant than anything with newer devices not experiencing many problems.
I experienced several reboots a day when I first received my Nexus 10. It was frustrating to use at best. Since the 4.2.2 (I'm running stock with root) upgrade and switching to Chrome beta I no longer have any reboot problems with the same device. I am now able to turn on location awareness without lockups or reboots as well. It's a complete 180.
My wife just bought her own Nexus 10 and hers has never locked up or rebooted spontaneously. Hers is stock, unrooted, and she uses non-beta Chrome.
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Your second device isn't rebooting?
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It is not.
I mentioned it in another thread, but I prefer to charge a units battery 100% full, then run the unit unitl it turns its self off from dead battery. The first two "cycles" on my RMA unit I did that, no problems during either cycle, each cycle was three days long. So then I started to charge it when the battery said 1%, and now I'm up to 302 hours of uptime. There have been no shell reboots during this 302 hours, as I've always been sure to leave an app in "recently used" and its always still there. I've also been using things that previously I would not have, such as Maps, apps that run message in status bar such as "Date In Status Bar HD" etc etc.
But full tech-slanted disclaimer because I know the history of this problem:
-My problem on my original unit 99.9% of the time manifested its self as "sleep of death", a bit different than "the masses"
-On my RMA unit, I've never opened Chrome. Not because I am wanting to use it but avoiding it, rather I only ever want to use one browser per device, and since I need to use Boat for Flash, I run Boat instead
-Similarly, I have not done anything "trying to force a crash" on the unit. For example, I've not run that crash app that dude just posted to the Google thread
-Again related to my personality/thought process: My goal has been "just use the tablet as I normally would" so that DOES include things like surfing the web on Boat for 3 hours at a time, running some lame match-3 games, etc etc. I am NOT sitting in a class all day with the unit open for 8 hour stints, nor am I watching YouTube for hours at a time, nor am I taking 1 hour video recordings on the device. So moderate use, but not "stress testing" use.
Still, the summary of my experience says it all (for me) - Could not consider the original unit dependable in anyway, it almost always was "off" if it was sitting on my desk, whereas now the new unit has not had a single event and I'm about one month into it, every day use... Original unit I noticed the problem within the first 3 days of ownership, but I thought there was a setting I had wrong, then I thought it was a problem that 4.2.2 would fix - both those assessments of my original device were wrong.
One more data point on this - My new unit is the D serial number, my original was the C - but another user here described the EXACT same crap I was dealing with, and his was a D - so I don't think there is an exact match for the possible theory of serial numbers (again in the context of sleep-of-death-manifestation.)
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~bm
I've not had one single reboot or freeze with this tablet, I'm on the stock 4.2.2. I have had some apps crash which brings me to my next point... How do your log cats look? They are usually a good starting point when trying to figure out the cause of a crash.
And if you are getting multiple reboots across a spread of roms than it's most likely an app. You need to take the time and figure out which app is causing it. It will be worth it in the long run!
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I mentioned it in another thread, but I prefer to charge a units battery 100% full, then run the unit unitl it turns its self off from dead battery.
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You do that every time? That's not good and definitely not needed with lithium ion batteries.
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I've not had one single reboot or freeze with this tablet, I'm on the stock 4.2.2. I have had some apps crash which brings me to my next point... How do your log cats look? They are usually a good starting point when trying to figure out the cause of a crash.
And if you are getting multiple reboots across a spread of roms than it's most likely an app....
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I think that is the point for the OP but nobody is doing it. Can you guys with no reboots list the apps on your device? That would give the people with reboots a starting point.
I appreciate the input to the thread but (I'll probably get flamed for this) many of the anecdotal responses are not of much value IMHO. You can't really start any troubleshooting with and not trying to single anyone out, 4.2.2 fixed it, my RMA'd device fixed it, beta-chrome works for me, non-beta for the wife, it's hardware, newer ones are better, turn off location services, etc. I have an RMA'd device so it is newer than the first batch. To that point, there is a guy in the thread bigmatty linked where the device is 8 days old. Is it an app? I hope so but with the infrequency of the reboots or seemingly randomness of it it is hard to troubleshoot. AOKP ran for 2 days 9 hours for me then crashed, then crashed again in 5 hours, and now up for 2 days again so far. The thing is they were all when idle so it is really hard to say what happened. One of my logs suggests gtalk loosing connection and rebooting the tablet. The other says nothing "illegal" or anything like that in the logs. Just the activity manager freaks out like every other log and then watchdog kills everything.
So, you guys with perfect N10s why don't you give us an app list so us poor bastards with reboots have a starting point....please
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I think that is the point for the OP but nobody is doing it. Can you guys with no reboots list the apps on your device? That would give the people with reboots a starting point.
So, you guys with perfect N10s why don't you give us an app list so us poor bastards with reboots have a starting point....please
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Look, that's not how troubleshooting works. The easiest and most efficient way is to reset your roms, add one or two apps a day, and keep adding apps till you find the problem. Patience is the key. But once you find the problem you'll be very pleased. Me or anyone else listing apps on our devices will not be meaningful to the problem because you're looking for apps that work, you're looking for ones that don't.
Your starting point is a ROM with no apps.
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You do that every time? That's not good and definitely not needed with lithium ion batteries.
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Well, I've personally done a lot of research into this topic, and no one will ever convince me any other method is as good for the batteries as it is. I've seen the battery discussions on both sides drag on for miles, so not worth discussing really. Just IMHO - ALL batteries can still suffer from memory effect. (Again, seen both sides of that discussion.)
I agree w/ the "top-level-general uncertainty" about these devices and thus the inherent frustrating complexities that rxnelson is talking about. My general opinion on the situation, is - if nothing else, there are some truly defective units in the field now, which further complicates the issue/troubleshooting.
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Look, that's not how troubleshooting works. The easiest and most efficient way is to reset your roms, add one or two apps a day, and keep adding apps till you find the problem. Patience is the key. But once you find the problem you'll be very pleased. Me or anyone else listing apps on our devices will not be meaningful to the problem because you're looking for apps that work, you're looking for ones that don't.
Your starting point is a ROM with no apps.
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Yea...well that is probably not going to happen for most people. Even at 10 apps 2 days per app you are looking at almost a month of troubleshooting. Most people aren't going to do that. There is also nothing to say that your bad app didn't cause an issue in 2 days but 4 instead you will be thinking the wrong app caused the issue. Anyway it was what the OP asked for so also trying to stay on topic.
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Yea...well that is probably not going to happen for most people. Even at 10 apps 2 days per app you are looking at almost a month of troubleshooting. Most people aren't going to do that. There is also nothing to say that your bad app didn't cause an issue in 2 days but 4 instead you will be thinking the wrong app caused the issue. Anyway it was what the OP asked for so also trying to stay on topic.
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Yeah I hear you man. When I was in the cell phone business as much as I love android I hated selling android phones because people go app crazy and install whatever they can find. Then they come back the next day because their phone isn't working properly. Lol.
But honestly, how many different apps do you use on a typical day? And let's put games and other non productive apps aside. So for troubleshooting purposes start with the apps you really, truly, honestly NEED and see if you still get issues.
This really becomes a circular discussion. Its the same as the original links I was referencing. Mods are just humoring us by not merging...
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Well, I've personally done a lot of research into this topic, and no one will ever convince me any other method is as good for the batteries as it is. I've seen the battery discussions on both sides drag on for miles, so not worth discussing really. Just IMHO - ALL batteries can still suffer from memory effect. (Again, seen both sides of that discussion.)
I agree w/ the "top-level-general uncertainty" about these devices and thus the inherent frustrating complexities that rxnelson is talking about. My general opinion on the situation, is - if nothing else, there are some truly defective units in the field now, which further complicates the issue/troubleshooting.
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I'd invite you to do some more research into the topic, check this out: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries It's a great site for real battery information.
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Yeah I hear you man. When I was in the cell phone business as much as I love android I hated selling android phones because people go app crazy and install whatever they can find. Then they come back the next day because their phone isn't working properly. Lol.
But honestly, how many different apps do you use on a typical day? And let's put games and other non productive apps aside. So for troubleshooting purposes start with the apps you really, truly, honestly NEED and see if you still get issues.
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I hear you as well. To be honest I'm just kind of done with troubleshooting. I've had a rebooting device since November. I'm just looking for a base to start with I guess. Kind of like at work. We have 10-15 core apps we install and test on a PC. When they are tested we make an image and blast that to the other devices. If 19 of 20 of the PCs work then we re-image the one. If that doesn't work it almost isn't worth the trouble shooting as we have 20 more that need imaged. Most of the time they chalk it up to hardware send it to the PC techs and move on. If I get bored I'll reflash....and yes honestly I don't use that many apps but it is still kind of a kick in the balls that you have to baby the device. I still think there is something generally wrong with the I/O of the two devices I've had. If I do a restore all apps and I mess with the tablet while it is downloading and installing all those apps they were both almost guaranteed to reboot.
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I'd invite you to do some more research into the topic, check this out: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries It's a great site for real battery information.
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:cyclops: I've read it all and done my own tests that span years... Even talked with former battery engineers about the topics and theories. My method always leaves my devices "more charged longer". Like I said, seen this battery topic drag on endlessly...
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This really becomes a circular discussion. Its the same as the original links I was referencing. Mods are just humoring us by not merging...
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So where is that app list?
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I hear you as well. To be honest I'm just kind of done with troubleshooting. I've had a rebooting device since November. IAt the very least,'m just looking for a base to start with I guess. Kind of like at work. We have 10-15 core apps we install and test on a PC. When they areexpressly increasingxotically increStillasing the oddse tested we make an image and blast that to the other devices. If 19 of 20 of the PCs work then we re-image the one. If that doesn't work it almost isn't worth the trouble shooting as we have 20 more that need imaged. Most of the time they chalk it up to hardware send it to the PC techs and move on. If I get bored I'll reflash....and yes honestly I don't use that many apps but it is still kind of a kick in the balls that you have to baby the device. I still think there is something generally wrong with the I/O of the two devices I've had. If I do a restore all apps and I mess with the tablet while it is downloading and installing all those apps they were both almost guaranteed to reboot.
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The odds seem so impossible that you personally would have got two defective devices, but clearly you have the tech chops to give a good assessment to the situation - I would love to see your experience with a third device... Just because each different physical device you test would keep exponentially increasing the odds.
A couple of the others who seem real in tune to this issue, I think have a hard or impossible return/RMA path, so I feel like it's an option not being that exhausted yet.
Well, I don't know that I am off much more help on this topic in general. I watched it so intensely for a couple months so its still got my interest. At the very least, guessing all the talks cab start again after klp is released!
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So where is that app list?
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I'll do this for you later today. Like I was saying, I think you are Not crazy :highfive:
Hi,
I just wanted to report what it is likely to be a bug after the latest update to 4.3
Power-off takes 60 secs vs 7-8 secs before the update.
I read somewhere this is due to the applications to be closed, which obviously was also the case before the update, therefore I don't get it.
I am sure many other people must have the same problem, anybody in this forum found a fix or got any official feedback from Sony regarding this issue?
Cheers
Alex
It's indeeed a bug with the 4.3 update, but nothing to be worried about (I mean, won't cause any problems). Just wait a little bit more so it can fully shut down...
Since in normal operation one never shuts a tablet down, the bug is irrelevant.
Hi,
Maybe is not relevant for you, my tablet, once has been used is powered-off and this may happen multiple times per day, so for me this is very relevant.
I hope Sony will fix this soon.
Alex
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Hi,
Maybe is not relevant for you, my tablet, once has been used is powered-off and this may happen multiple times per day, so for me this is very relevant.
I hope Sony will fix this soon.
Alex
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Why do you turn if off so often? There's no need for that.
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Hi,
Maybe is not relevant for you, my tablet, once has been used is powered-off and this may happen multiple times per day, so for me this is very relevant.
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Then you simply don't have a clue how a mobile device is meant to be used.
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Then you simply don't have a clue how a mobile device is meant to be used.
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It's a question of perspective, in principle you should never judge someone else's behavior, also because, sooner or later you may discover you were wrong
Regardless, this is a bug, period. This is what I wanted to know, the rest is not important.
For me this topic is closed, unless somebody has something relevant and pertinent to add to my original question.
Thank you
Alex
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It's a question of perspective, in principle you should never judge someone else's behavior, also because, sooner or later you may discover you were wrong
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In other cases this is right, but in this case you're simply wrong, period. Your habit of turning off the tablet after each use is laughably nooby and BS-y, except if you can name a really good, special reason for that (I take all bets that you don't have one.)
i'm not taking sides, but dam why on earth would you switch your tablet off multiple times a day ? There's no point if you need proof ? Your speaking to it. i know this is a bit of topic, i picked a Core i7 Mac Book Pro. it's a late 2011 model. And that's the year i picked it up 2011 since 2011 i haven't switched of my mac book pro not once, it's always been on standby and mostly plugged into the thunderbolt display.. The battery cycle count is 50 witch shows there's no need to switch off your electronics as the hardware in today's technology is built to be in standby for months and years on end, we live in a fast pace planet, instant use, instant boot.. And switching your electronics on and off wears and tears the hardware much faster.. FACT!
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In other cases this is right, but in this case you're simply wrong, period. Your habit of turning off the tablet after each use is laughably nooby and BS-y, except if you can name a really good, special reason for that (I take all bets that you don't have one.)
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A good reason for doing so could be - it's HIS device, not yours!
Call it laughable, BS'y or whatever you want, he can do what ever he want with HIS device - like it or not.
I also turn mine off/restart once a while. Not several times daily, but maybe once/twice a week. It runs better/faster/smother after a restart (my oppinion).
He can do, but then he should not complain.
And we're not talking about one restart every few days, we're talking about restarting for each f*****g use, several times a day!
Wow, this thread is out of control. I use my tablet all day long ... If I had to shut it down after each use I would probably go through the process about 200 times daily and Yes the tablet does take time to shutdown. Thanks god I only shutdown/reboot when I update my SuperSU to make it part of the system files otherwise I would throw it out the window or shoot myself. But since a tablet is meant to stay on Sleep/StandBy, Im not sure Sony would consider this a bug ... If it is, then I have to agree ... at least to me ... irrelevant but I feel for the guy that needs to wait 60 secs everytime he shuts it down after a single use.
Not judging but do you shut down your phone after each call you make? They are the same types of devices.