Hey guys,
I would love to have some light shed on this topic in order to help me decide which phone to get. But please bear this in mind, I am a technical person so I would like some opinions with good reasons not just diehard fans like HTC or Samsung all the way and never give a justifiable reason.
That being said, my major concerns are smoothness, camera quality, and battery. So I have read and watched many reviews online, I feel S3 somehow is a little bit snappier with the transition animation. 4G LTE is choppier or more laggy by just a very tiny amount. Not sure if it's true. I was using my roommate's S3 which is Saudi Arabian version. It was kinda laggy (it's more laggy than my evo 3D)....but could be just his phone.
For camera part, it's very interesting. With all the reviews online, one would expect S3 is better than 4G LTE and most certainly better than better than EVO 3D. However, I was just playing around with his S3 and my EVO 3D.
Here are some pictures with default settings,
EVO 3D focusing on the guitar
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fxz3kp2e587elbw/EVO 3D Guitar.jpg
S3 focusing on the guitar
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i4nfn8f43hh1bz7/S3 Guitar.jpg
As for battery life, I don't have 4G LTE or S3 so I can't test about it. One thing is that S3 can swap the battery. It would be great if someone can share some real life data.
Please also note that, my EVO 3D is rooted with ZR3D GT rom and my roommate's S3 is Saudi Arabian version. This could affect the very non-scientific test I carried out.
Thank you very much for helping me out with the choice between these two great phones.
One very important part you are missing: if you have a need to use LTE while you own either phone, do not get the EVO LTE.
digiblur said:
One very important part you are missing: if you have a need to use LTE while you own either phone, do not get the EVO LTE.
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Does this not work or something? I can use 3G while on phone calls with my LTE.
eXplicit815 said:
Does this not work or something? I can use 3G while on phone calls with my LTE.
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It doesn't work *well*...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1898433
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901905
The theory is that it can be fixed with a software update, but when that will happen, nobody knows. Currently, you sometimes have to cycle through airplane mode or "CDMA/LTE" and "CDMA only" modes to get it to find LTE. Another theory is that once all of the towers are upgraded, this won't be much of an issue as it will always be in an LTE area, though I don't know what to make of this theory.
And yes, the EVO LTE supports SV-DO, so you can place calls and use data simultaneously.
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It doesn't work *well*...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1898433
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901905
The theory is that it can be fixed with a software update, but when that will happen, nobody knows. Currently, you sometimes have to cycle through airplane mode or "CDMA/LTE" and "CDMA only" modes to get it to find LTE. Another theory is that once all of the towers are upgraded, this won't be much of an issue as it will always be in an LTE area, though I don't know what to make of this theory.
And yes, the EVO LTE supports SV-DO, so you can place calls and use data simultaneously.
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Sorry, I read it wrong. I thought you were saying that you couldn't access LTE/3G data while on the phone. But yeah, I see what you're saying...
When talking about the cameras the EVO LTE is superior in stills and lowlights with the GS3 being a little better at video capture. Keep in mind the Sprint GS3 has the same processor as the EVO but 2 GB of ram so multitasking is much better than the EVO.
Near same specs
The LTEVO and GS3 are both insane phones.
This biggest differences u will notice stock are Samsung uses amoled screens and is .1" bigger, has a physical home button, menu instead of recent apps, and 1 gb more ram, removable battery, and button placement.
Now, many think 2 gb is twice that of the LTEVO, but I consistently have an extra 150 to 250 mb of ram left with 10 apps running at once, a phone at this point with the games (only thing to even come close to using it all) don't use all that much. I mean it is technically more "future" proof but who knows.
Now, I get all day battery from my evo even with heavy use. I have 10 hrs screen on with 40% battery left.
Once these phones are rooted, they become almost identical. Although looking thru the forums it seems the GS3 have more devs.
Both can be over clocked to 1.8 ghz easy and ik my evo hits 2.1 ghz on sense. Both have the same gpu and both don't like to be over clocked very much as they tend to create artifacts.
I personally don't like the feel of the GS3's plastic cheap feel. The aluminum sides of the evo give it some class and durability. The kickstand is difficult to pull out without nails tho, super strong.
At this point all I can recommend is get your hands on the LTEVO and GS3 us version and try them both. Don't worry about the software to much as the software can be changed to ur liking. Just get a feel for how the phone looks and feels in ur hands.
Hope this was helpful.
Hit thanks if it was.
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When talking about the cameras the EVO LTE is superior in stills and lowlights with the GS3 being a little better at video capture. Keep in mind the Sprint GS3 has the same processor as the EVO but 2 GB of ram so multitasking is much better than the EVO.
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Has HTC fixed the multitasking issue? I searched online and found nothing. The update didn't seem to fix it?
The gimped multitasking is apparently a feature, but hey the last update prioritized their ics browser.
I have the HTC and my wife has the s3. I like then both. Multitasking on the s3 is phenomenal! Unlike on the evo, multitasking is so so. Yes I applied the multitasking fixes. Touchwiz is a lot smoother than sense. But sense is more intuitive. The screen on the EVO kills the s3. I really hate the oversaturated colors on the s3 Camera seams to be close. White balance does seam to be a bit better on the s3 though. EVO hands down better built quality by a mile. Battery life on the EVO is better, don't be fooled by the 2100mah rating. It really a toss up...if the EVO had 2gb ram, I'll be a clear winner imo. With that in mind s3 by a very tiny margin. Go test out both and you decide. Hope I helped.
I had an S3 for just about a month and ended up trading it in for a 4G LTE. They're quite similar overall, but do have some differences that could make or break one for you.
I put together an eval of both of them here a month or so ago, with a focus on actual day-to-day use rather than a comparison of specs:
http://todayinjetpacks.blogspot.com/2012/09/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-htc-evo-4g-lte.html
Hope this helps!
What settings are you using to have 10 hours on screen time and 40% battery left over? Are you rooted? Shock kernel are you using? That's amazing performance.
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eXplicit815 said:
Does this not work or something? I can use 3G while on phone calls with my LTE.
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LTE is just down right frustrating on the EVO LTE. Wish I could switch out mine for a GS3.
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LTE is just down right frustrating on the EVO LTE. Wish I could switch out mine for a GS3.
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Ever time I travel and am forced to mainly rely on the network I pay every month (sprint) -I get so frustrated I swear I'm swapping for a gs3...then I get back to my office where I'm on WIFI all day and i always end up letting it go. My gf also has an S3 and uses LTE constantly inside the house, literally right next to me, and I need to travel at least a mile away to hook up with it. I really am at a loss for words here. I'm not a complainer . I was very patient but I truly feel like I was swindled in some way. I paid full freight for this thing and it is not delivering on its own namesake (4G LTE) for Christ sake. And yes I've contacted HTC and sprint.
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File a complaint with the BBB and Attorney General office. Take video and pictures of your phone not connecting to LTE and the S3 working fine. Document it.
Demand the issue be fixed or the replace your phone with a working one.
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File a complaint with the BBB and Attorney General office. Take video and pictures of your phone not connecting to LTE and the S3 working fine. Document it.
Demand the issue be fixed or the replace your phone with a working one.
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Are u serious? I'm really looking for help at this point. I have dozens of pictures/vids dictating what I described. Both on rootted and stock. Thanks if u can my be pm and explain what u mean.
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Itching for a new phone soon, and not happy with Sprint lately, their billing can be whacky, I get a different priced bill every month, even though I am on unlimited, and I have to call Sprint every month to straighten it out.
Plus I am worried that with the recent phone they just showcased yesterday, it is a total turd, and afraid what direction Sprint is even heading ? Will there be an EVO2, no real strong rumors on that yet, just worried the future of Sprint.
Would love to see "Myn's" ROM from the EVO or something close to it come out for the Thunderbolt too. And what about battery life on the Thunderbolt, will be it just as bad as the EVO, due to having both 3G + 4G Radios ? And lastly will LTE be good in Chicago area, better speeds than 4G on Sprint ?
Thanks.
It kind of is as LTE is suppose to be a bit faster than WiMax, plus the lower spectrum is uses, means it can work indoor, and between buildings better.
The processor is also faster due to being 2nd gen. If its like the g2 it will overclockable to up to 2ghz
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Thanks for replies, I will wait a bit.
#1 see if Sprint gives a good indication of an EVO-2 this Summer, should know in March with the big phone show, if it leaks out there. Would hate to ditch the EVO, for the Thunderbolt, then few months later an even better phones comes out in the EVO 2.
#2, By the end of March, the Thunderbolt will be rooted and hopefully have a nice ROM available.
EVO 2 is far from a rumor, though the summer release may not happen. The Dual Core processor + WiMax chipset is giving them help right now. Now to answer your question, the Thunderbolt is definitely an upgrade from the EVO in every way, but it's a battery hog as well. I wouldn't recommend using LTE, if you don't really have to, unless it's for a quick download.
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EVO 2 is far from a rumor, though the summer release may not happen. The Dual Core processor + WiMax chipset is giving them help right now. Now to answer your question, the Thunderbolt is definitely an upgrade from the EVO in every way, but it's a battery hog as well. I wouldn't recommend using LTE, if you don't really have to, unless it's for a quick download.
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I'm not sure how it's going to work yet, but I didn't think we had a choice whether it would be in 3g mode or 4g?
Yeah, same way with the EVO. You'll notice a little lag, when you're switching from lte to wifi, and vice versa.
Yeah I don't think LTE will function like WiMAX at all. Aside from the marketing label "4G" they have pretty much nothing in common.
LTE and wimax aren't even remotely similar. LTE stacks up impressively.
LTE stands for Long Term Evolution, so it will continue to get better with age.
LTE also sports a robust core, and has typically no loss of packets and 20ms latency when switching towers. The network utilizes advanced versions of Node B devices, which are just more capable modules than there predecessors (there are two per tower for LTE standard, and have greater bandwidth handling, as well as continuing support for legacy devices and 3g). LTE doesn't need line of sight, and tolerates MIMO antenna technology on clients.
Unlike Wimax, LTE is true 4G.
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LTE and wimax aren't even remotely similar. LTE stacks up impressively.
LTE stands for Long Term Evolution, so it will continue to get better with age.
LTE also sports a robust core, and has typically no loss of packets and 20ms latency when switching towers. The network utilizes advanced versions of Node B devices, which are just more capable modules than there predecessors (there are two per tower for LTE standard, and have greater bandwidth handling, as well as continuing support for legacy devices and 3g). LTE doesn't need line of sight, and tolerates MIMO antenna technology on clients.
Unlike Wimax, LTE is true 4G.
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So you're saying it is better then WiMax?
Thank you for the explanation...
Much better than WImax
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So you're saying it is better then WiMax?
Thank you for the explanation...
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its WAY better apparently
and also The TB is capable of SVDO which means it wont switch to 1X every time you text and Talking and data at the same time as well
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its WAY better apparently
and also The TB is capable of SVDO which means it wont switch to 1X every time you text and Talking and data at the same time as well
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Yea can't wait to try out the talking and data at the same time, not that I have ever really found a need for it, but hey if you got it...
I have heard that the voice quality will suffer some when using data at the same time which is why VZW isn't promoting it. Don't know how much the quality will degrade or if I will even be able to tell, I'm not much of an audio hound so I don't usually hear drops in quality that much.
Besides them both having a 4.3" screen and kickstand they are completely different devices. It is honestly annoying to constantly hear people compare them due to the aesthetic design similarities.
The ThunderBolt has a unibody aluminum design and great build quality. As others have stated, the ThunderBolt also uses the newest generation of Qualcomm Snapdragon CPUs. This 1GHz CPU is not the same as the older generation used in the EVO, it is an entirely different beast. The latest Snapdragons are more efficient and the clock speed being the same means nothing.
The TB also has more RAM than the EVO, Verizon 4G LTE (not WiMAX), and Dolby Audio onboard behind the kickstand. Finally, the TB includes a 32GB microSD card preinstalled.
Any other comparisons simply boil down to looks and similar design style. The devices themselves are not the same.
Let's not forget DLNA. I think it's a great feature that will future-proof the Tbolt for awhile.
ahh...so glad I didn't know about this phone sooner, as I'd have been dying while waiting...I just started checkin the phone forums a week or so ago for the first time since last fall due to finding out about a surprise upgrade on our account due the end of january..this week or 2 wait sucks, I cant imagine finding out about this months ago...
There's a video comparison of the TB and Evo on Wirefly.com. The TB is roughly 2x faster than the Evo.
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Let's not forget DLNA. I think it's a great feature that will future-proof the Tbolt for awhile.
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DLNA is on the DroidX also.
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The ThunderBolt has a unibody aluminum design
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I have heard this stated here and on other forums. I heard it in one of the video reviews (maybe the unboxing one). However, I have seen no substantiation of this. There are 3 reasons why I doubt is it actually unibody. 1 From the limited views inside the device it does not appear to be. 2. It clearly has a thin plastic back cover. 3. It would be a fairly radical design and manufacturing departure for HTC. It certainly would be a cool Apple-ish feature. I'm keen for some further evidence of this. Let us know if you have anything.
It's not an evo, why can't people get that throw their heads. Just because it has a 4.3in screen, froyo, and and made by htc people think it's an Evo. If using want to compare it to something compare it to the Desire HD maybe. Evo was not even the first 4.3in htc phone that was the hd2. The Evo a great piece of hardware and still is but the htc thunderbolt is something fresh in my opinion. The tb only shares 3 things with the evo screen size, os, and manufacture. I personally loved the evo it, for its size, speed, and functionality. I have my htc thunderbolt pre ordered.
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First time posting, been reading here for the last year.
Is it even worth it to upgrade to this while not able to get LTE? I'm in Chicago and I dont wanna be stuck with only the cdma 3g again until LTE is deployed here. Anyone know if the EVO LTE will connect to wimax?
I would wait for them to announce it for your city first. I was in chicago last summer and 4g wrked perfect everywhere
Unless your a phone whore(who isnt on XDA) and need to have the latest and greatest. Wait.
Might as well keep some type of 4g(wimax) and wait. Hell, who knows. Maybe by the time you get LTE, there will be something new and magical out. EVO 4G LTE Sandwich Maker(can only wish).
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Unless your a phone whore(who isnt on XDA) and need to have the latest and greatest. Wait.
Might as well keep some type of 4g(wimax) and wait. Hell, who knows. Maybe by the time you get LTE, there will be something new and magical out. EVO 4G LTE Sandwich Maker(can only wish).
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Unfortunately yes I'm a huge phone whore haha.
rocking an evo 3d now on the newest mean rom.
Had an upgrade since January first and it's been killing me waiting for a new phone, but I think I may hold off until the GS3 is announced and see what that has to offer. I'm kinda getting sick of sense and really like the stock ICS look and feel.
Wait for what? The phone is a beast period. LTE is just an added plus. I will be there release day. Was first with Wimax and will be first with LTE, but regardless, im on wifi 90% of the time, and this monster will pretty much be comparable with any phone released the rest of 2012 to me, so im all in.
Wait for LTE to be deployed in Chicago. Mainly just because Sprints 3g is absolutely horrid. Plus whenever our net goes down I love that I can just tether wimax and its plenty fast
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Wait for LTE to be deployed in Chicago. Mainly just because Sprints 3g is absolutely horrid. Plus whenever our net goes down I love that I can just tether wimax and its plenty fast
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Well you will probably find your answer a little closer to launch. I would think by then sprint would have firm dates to when major cities will be getting its LTE turned on.
I'm getting it and then patiently wait for LTE. I have Wimax in my area but I'm mostly on WiFi anyways.
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First time posting, been reading here for the last year.
Is it even worth it to upgrade to this while not able to get LTE? I'm in Chicago and I dont wanna be stuck with only the cdma 3g again until LTE is deployed here. Anyone know if the EVO LTE will connect to wimax?
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Chicago is in first round of NetworkVision deployments so LTE should reach the city sooner than others...DONE by October...but youll see improvements wayyy before then as, soon as the clusters are turned on you'll notice incredible 3G speeds hopefully. should be well over 1Mbps easy and sub 100pings...
read this:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
no wimax. forget it exists going forward.
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Chicago is in first round of NetworkVision deployments so LTE should reach the city sooner than others...DONE by October...but youll see improvements wayyy before then as, soon as the clusters are turned on you'll notice incredible 3G speeds hopefully. should be well over 1Mbps easy and sub 100pings...
read this:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
no wimax. forget it exists going forward.
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Cannot wait to forget about wimax... but for now its the only option
Slightly off topic but still somewhat relevant. I know that it took a long time to get Wimax working in CM on the OG EVO. Does anyone know if LTE will be just as difficult? It might not be an issue if the 3G speeds improve drastically with Network Vision. Here in Raleigh, NC 3G has been awful for several months now so I've been living off Wimax and wifi when possible. I'd hate to upgrade to this phone and be stuck on my current download speeds in CM9 (yes I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself lol).
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If you want high dev support, yeah. Remember, this is 2 years after the original Evo so most of those devs will use their upgrade on the Evo LTE. Also, this is supposed to be htc's device of the year. And did I mention it's the first LTE phone on sprint?
So yeah, this phone will have high dev support which is already a reason to get it. If you're still not impressed, remember that the specs on that thing make it a beast.
Worth it.
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Even without LTE support, this is as big of an upgrade as the EVO 4G was to ...uhh...the Hero?
Similar advantage points include but are not limited to:
-bigger screen (4.7in)
-higher resolution (720P)
-better display technology (SLCD2)
-better processor
-better camera
-better software
-true Beats audio support
-"HD Voice" EVRC-NW
-higher capacity battery
-Sprint LTE support (won't matter yet to those who won't have LTE in their area, but still)
It's well worth the investment, especially since WiMAX isn't being worked on anymore
Why would you NOT upgrade? Unless you use WiMAX and LTE won't be available in your area. Other than that, there is no logical reason to stick with the EVO 3D after yesterday's announcement. Even though the EVO 4G LTE isn't that great looking, it blows our phone out of the water in every single aspect of the word.
The EVO 4G to EVO 3D on the other hand, not THAT much of an upgrade.
-Camera quality subjective
-Battery life subjective
-Support is definitely not even close to where the EVO 4G was and here we are nearly a year later
-3D feature subjective
-Missing kickstand
Nothing on the EVO 4G LTE is subjective in terms of being just plain better than the EVO 3D, except maybe the battery life, which has yet to be benchmarked.
my main question is that by the time LTE reaches Chicago will there be something better? b/c I use wimax a fair amount
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Even without LTE support, this is as big of an upgrade as the EVO 4G was to ...uhh...the Hero?
Similar advantage points include but are not limited to:
-bigger screen (4.7in)
-higher resolution (720P)
-better display technology (SLCD2)
-better processor
-better camera
-better software
-true Beats audio support
-"HD Voice" EVRC-NW
-higher capacity battery
-Sprint LTE support (won't matter yet to those who won't have LTE in their area, but still)
It's well worth the investment, especially since WiMAX isn't being worked on anymore
Why would you NOT upgrade? Unless you use WiMAX and LTE won't be available in your area. Other than that, there is no logical reason to stick with the EVO 3D after yesterday's announcement. Even though the EVO 4G LTE isn't that great looking, it blows our phone out of the water in every single aspect of the word.
The EVO 4G to EVO 3D on the other hand, not THAT much of an upgrade.
-Camera quality subjective
-Battery life subjective
-Support is definitely not even close to where the EVO 4G was and here we are nearly a year later
-3D feature subjective
-Missing kickstand
Nothing on the EVO 4G LTE is subjective in terms of being just plain better than the EVO 3D, except maybe the battery life, which has yet to be benchmarked.
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think I have said something close to this before? lol
my 3d does everything i need it to do, I would wait.
I have to say that the back side of the phone is a little ugly, but everything else looks great. Anyone have a decent comparison between the LTEvo and the Galaxy Nexus though? I was thinking of going with the Galaxy Nexus...but after the EVO 4G and 3D...I'm starting to develop some kind of EVO brand loyalty I guess.
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I have to say that the back side of the phone is a little ugly, but everything else looks great. Anyone have a decent comparison between the LTEvo and the Galaxy Nexus though? I was thinking of going with the Galaxy Nexus...but after the EVO 4G and 3D...I'm starting to develop some kind of EVO brand loyalty I guess.
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its on utube......not even close in quality and performance
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Chicago is in first round of NetworkVision deployments so LTE should reach the city sooner than others...DONE by October...but youll see improvements wayyy before then as, soon as the clusters are turned on you'll notice incredible 3G speeds hopefully. should be well over 1Mbps easy and sub 100pings...
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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
no wimax. forget it exists going forward.
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I hate to rain on your parade, but I am in San Antonio (one of the first 4 cities), and I have checked the upgrade status, and almost all upgrades have been done here, yet I just ran speed test 5 times and the highest I got was 268kbps down. This is pretty much standard here. I think I got over 500kbps once. LTE may be awesome, but I think that the rumors of better 3g are far overblown.
I've searched the forums for this, but don't see an exact match. Sorry if I missed a duplicate thread, and a link to it would suffice as an answer.
I am nearing the end of my 2 year contract for my Sprint Evo 4G. I think they are referred to as OG Evo's here for some reason? OG = Original? Anyway, it's been a GREAT phone. Wife got one at the same time. I rooted both of them, installed Sprint Lovers Rom and have basically done nothing else since except refuse updates and install/uninstall apps. I rooted it to be able to do wifi tether, which I depend on at times.
The only real reason I'm thinking of getting the 4G LTE version is the camera. The camera on the Evo 4G just flat sucks. My only complaint on the phone, but a big one as I am outdoors a lot, like to take pictures a lot, and would like to get away from carrying a point and shoot in addition to my phone. I've played with settings until I'm blue in the face, and get the occasional decent picture, but it's just not good. I want a very good camera and it seems this phone has one, by all official reviews I've seen on it.
But I also read on the 4G LTE forums a lot of reports of more dropped calls, connectivity and slow data issues compared to other phones like the Evo 3D. Where I live, all we have is 3G. I've done some speednet tests on it and get in the area of 1.25mb down, .30mb up currently. That works for what I need. We will likely not see LTE anytime soon, if ever, here at the house (in the Ozark Mts of Arkansas).
Am I likely to see performance impacts if I go to the 4G LTE? If so, has anyone done comparisons to see how much is lost? I really, really, really want a better camera, but not if it's going to make calls and/or tethering worse.
I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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No LTE in my area as well but between wifi and decent 3g I'm enjoying the faster speed of the LTE
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I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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That's spot on for my wife and I who both switched from the OG to the LTE, and the LTE is only going to spread
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It just so happens that I have both my OG Evo and new LTE right here in front of me.
In general, I have noticed the reception of the LTEvo is marginally worse (0 to 5 dB worse) which is not significant and will probably not be noticable.
Wifi and GPS appear equally superb. No complains at all.
The camera is definitely better overall but that should be a given. Daylight pictures are excellent but indoor lowlight picture are very subject to motion blur. It is fairly difficult to get a picture to come out perfectly crisp with low light. Installing a ROM with an HD Camera mod definitely helps too. I've attached several pictures. A couple to demonstrate the challenges of low lighting and a couple with good outdoor lighting. Could I have taken a better low light picture? Sure I can and I definitely retook the pictures that turned out bad but that's an extra shot and extra time wasted.
Good luck!
I had an OG Evo myself, and it was a smooth transition from it to the LTEVO. I did have connectivity issues and WiFi issues, but that was addressed by the latest OTA, which was baked into several ROMs with r00t access.
The big delta for me between the OG Evo and LTEVO, was the hardware platform with better CPU, RAM and sdcard specs. On the software side, it came preloaded with ICS and JB is on the way, so there's no comparison.
In the camera department, yes, I hated the OG Evo camera, even at the 8 MP benchmark. However, even stock, the LTEVO camera destroys the OG Evo in the camera department and there are mods available here to enhance it, which I run personally on my daily driver handset.
Last but not least, the OG Evo necessitated carrying extra charged batteries with you, and chargers themselves, since the OG Evo was an energy hog. The LTEVO is sooooo much better in this department, and I've had runs that lasted well over 24 hours without a charge.
Convinced yet?
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i came from the og evo to the LTE, both rooted with s-off. and my data seems faster on the LTE. as far as dropped calls i can probably count on one hand how many times that happened between both phones.
I suspect you'll be very interested in a thread I created. Took a pic with the Evo 4G, and then one with the LTE.
Pics in the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672864
It's pretty obvious that the LTE has a MUCH better camera.
I searched the forums and didn't see a post like this......
So I have talked to a couple representatives from T-Mobile and it has been confirmed that T-Mobile will be acquiring LTE service sometime next year. One rep told me next spring, the other one told me they don't know.
So I'm just going to wait until the day T-Mobile gets LTE then use my upgrade on an LTE phone.
I honestly can't wait!
Have you ever heard of the concept of diminishing returns? At some point increasing the speed of data will give an increase of experience that is so tiny that you won't notice it.. the biggest bottleneck in our data speed is the app that we use to access that data, and the system itself.
With a few build.prop tweaks I consistently get over 18mbs download and 3mbs upload - how much faster can it get? Will a page loading .03 a second faster at higher speeds be worth the battery drain of TRUE lte? Unless the browsing app and the system itself get better, faster data speeds won't do anything you're gonna notice - it is 99.9999999% hype to sell you a new phone or service.
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Silentbtdeadly said:
Have you ever heard of the concept of diminishing returns? At some point increasing the speed of data will give an increase of experience that is so tiny that you won't notice it.. the biggest bottleneck in our data speed is the app that we use to access that data, and the system itself.
With a few build.prop tweaks I consistently get over 18mbs download and 3mbs upload - how much faster can it get? Will a page loading .03 a second faster at higher speeds be worth the battery drain of TRUE lte? Unless the browsing app and the system itself get better, faster data speeds won't do anything you're gonna notice - it is 99.9999999% hype to sell you a new phone or service.
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I understand what you mean, but if the speeds are higher, then theoretically, they would be able to support more users.
Look at it this way. You have a water hose that is 1 inch in diameter, and you have a splitter that splits the hose 4 ways. On the 4 ends, the rate of flow would be lower than if it was just 1 end. This is our current 4G service.
And now, the LTE. A hose that is 3 inches in diameter. Now, it can split it 4 ways, and get about 3x more performance in each hose (Which as you mentioned, is probably unnecessary, since we probably wouldn't notice the difference)... OR you could split it 12 ways and you would get the same performance with 1 inch hose that was only split 4 ways. It now can support 3x more hoses, while delivering the same amount of throughput.
It's not always about speed
At this point I really don't care for LTE specially if it drains my battery faster then what my current juice sucking Amaze does. I do think it's all hype at this point. Also I've been wondering weather I really need a juice sucking tripe/quad CPU on my cell.
There is only so much you can do on a cell phone before its over kill. At the moment I have to carefully manage my 4G, Cell phone signal, WIFI, Bluetooth, Air Plane mode, and have a few well placed chargers at home, car and work just to get through the day with my cell.
I'm not sure what I'm going to doing with a Quad Core or Tegra processor cell phone if I got one. Unless I was playing games on my cell phone which is not that great since it doesn't have a physical keyboard a la Xperia play or Droid 2.
I guess that if you watch a lot of videos online the extra speed might be a plus but then again the screen is kind of small and it would kill the battery quick. Right now even a quick game of angry birds or Zombies vs plants zaps the battery life. I guess that if you tether your cell phone and watch videos on a laptop or a tablet then maybe I can see the positive of having LTE.
I wish T-mobile would instead expand their coverage. At my job they have internal antennas throughout the whole campus for Verizon and AT&T, Metro PCS, Sprint. I asked one of the IT project managers if T-mobile would ever get in on the game and add their hardware so that we could have a better T-mobile signal. He laughed at me and said that T-Mobile doesn't play nice and there was no chance. Good thing we have WIFI at work and I use grooveIP and Google voice as my main communication tools.
At this time I'm more then happy with my Amaze 4G speeds. It seems to be about as fast as my home WIFI. It's definitely faster then work WIFI.
I would much rather see improved battery technology and a better screen. I guess I would have to try out LTE just to see if it was worth it but I highly doubt it. Heck right now seeing full bars on my cell is a big plus and cause for celebration.
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Lte reminds me of another acronym: cai which stands for cold air intake.
Yes while lte (and somewhat I have read it's not even true lte???) May be faster on paper, I can tell you its barely noticeable.
Just like a cai, you may be technically gaining a few horses but you won't notice it. I honestly see very little difference between lte and hspa . If any thing else the speed is very inconsistent which attributes to minimal notability in speed.
And after reading how it's not even true lte I am convinced it's just b.s.
Has anyone noticed how call quality has stayed the same for the past 5 years or so?
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rustyxj6 said:
At this point I really don't care for LTE specially if it drains my battery faster then what my current juice sucking Amaze does. I do think it's all hype at this point. Also I've been wondering weather I really need a juice sucking tripe/quad CPU on my cell.
There is only so much you can do on a cell phone before its over kill. At the moment I have to carefully manage my 4G, Cell phone signal, WIFI, Bluetooth, Air Plane mode, and have a few well placed chargers at home, car and work just to get through the day with my cell.
I'm not sure what I'm going to doing with a Quad Core or Tegra processor cell phone if I got one. Unless I was playing games on my cell phone which is not that great since it doesn't have a physical keyboard a la Xperia play or Droid 2.
I guess that if you watch a lot of videos online the extra speed might be a plus but then again the screen is kind of small and it would kill the battery quick. Right now even a quick game of angry birds or Zombies vs plants zaps the battery life. I guess that if you tether your cell phone and watch videos on a laptop or a tablet then maybe I can see the positive of having LTE.
I wish T-mobile would instead expand their coverage. At my job they have internal antennas throughout the whole campus for Verizon and AT&T, Metro PCS, Sprint. I asked one of the IT project managers if T-mobile would ever get in on the game and add their hardware so that we could have a better T-mobile signal. He laughed at me and said that T-Mobile doesn't play nice and there was no chance. Good thing we have WIFI at work and I use grooveIP and Google voice as my main communication tools.
At this time I'm more then happy with my Amaze 4G speeds. It seems to be about as fast as my home WIFI. It's definitely faster then work WIFI.
I would much rather see improved battery technology and a better screen. I guess I would have to try out LTE just to see if it was worth it but I highly doubt it. Heck right now seeing full bars on my cell is a big plus and cause for celebration.
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Ah, but with quad core, you can be in control, and the way it handles processes is more efficient anyways.. and technically there are five cores, and that fifth smaller core can really help make things more efficient.
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LTE sounds nice and I thought the same about 4G neither which are running where I live. I still have to rely on Edge(2G) for my data. AT&T, Sprint, nor Verizon have their LTE/4G services where I live. So T-mobile can say all they want about their network but that won't be selling me any phones anytime soon.
I think T-mobile should focus on strengthening their signal and offering better speeds in all areas before going LTE. In my recent trip to Florida I basically had to stand in one corner of one room of the house I was staying at to get one bar. I ended up just using my BIL's WIFI the entire time. My MIL has an AT&T old school phone and had fine signal everywhere in the house. It was the same way in the parks.... service going in and out constantly while I saw other ppl on their phones just fine. Not to mention that while I am at work I get 2G at best whilst my AT&T coworkers get 4G. One co-worker just switched from T-mobile to AT&T and said he cannot believe the speed difference. I love T-mobile's customer care, and I have had a great experience with them so I hate to leave but if the signal doesn't improve soon I'm going to be forced to make the switch.
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I think T-mobile should focus on strengthening their signal and offering better speeds in all areas before going LTE. In my recent trip to Florida I basically had to stand in one corner of one room of the house I was staying at to get one bar. I ended up just using my BIL's WIFI the entire time. My MIL has an AT&T old school phone and had fine signal everywhere in the house. It was the same way in the parks.... service going in and out constantly while I saw other ppl on their phones just fine. Not to mention that while I am at work I get 2G at best whilst my AT&T coworkers get 4G. One co-worker just switched from T-mobile to AT&T and said he cannot believe the speed difference. I love T-mobile's customer care, and I have had a great experience with them so I hate to leave but if the signal doesn't improve soon I'm going to be forced to make the switch.
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Yeah I also am more concerned with consistent service. Where I live I can get anywhere from 10kbs, yes kbs down, and pretty much nothing up. To about 5mbs down. But about 7 miles from here I get consistent speeds of 28mbs down I'd much prefer that being the norm since that's plenty fast. I'm told the technology that everyone is hoping to move to is more economically sound and should save the user money theoretically. Now whether the companies will pass that savings to us... Who knows. But I'd much rather get service where I currently don't. And data where I only have service like when I camp certain areas
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Also rather see them increase signal with Hspa+ rather than make the LTE switch. I am already getting craptastic battery life and my service is so spotty! I currently have 4G where I work at outside, but I walk 50 yards rather outside or inside the building I get full bars of EDGE. Always a good signal, just completely different speeds.
Have a friend on Verizon and he has an LTE phone and his speeds off the network are crazy fast, but it isn't like off the wall crazy different when I am in a strong 4G area. I have hit mid 20's download and almost 4 upload.
Marketing at its finest IMO.
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mznatnat said:
I searched the forums and didn't see a post like this......
So I have talked to a couple representatives from T-Mobile and it has been confirmed that T-Mobile will be acquiring LTE service sometime next year. One rep told me next spring, the other one told me they don't know.
So I'm just going to wait until the day T-Mobile gets LTE then use my upgrade on an LTE phone.
I honestly can't wait!
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While lte will eventually take over hspa+ is more than sufficient and in my case here in San Diego it's faster.
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Keylogger_0 said:
I understand what you mean, but if the speeds are higher, then theoretically, they would be able to support more users.
Look at it this way. You have a water hose that is 1 inch in diameter, and you have a splitter that splits the hose 4 ways. On the 4 ends, the rate of flow would be lower than if it was just 1 end. This is our current 4G service.
And now, the LTE. A hose that is 3 inches in diameter. Now, it can split it 4 ways, and get about 3x more performance in each hose (Which as you mentioned, is probably unnecessary, since we probably wouldn't notice the difference)... OR you could split it 12 ways and you would get the same performance with 1 inch hose that was only split 4 ways. It now can support 3x more hoses, while delivering the same amount of throughput.
It's not always about speed
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That analogy is actually kind of weak. Firstly, not all phones will be LTE. Second, just like other spectrums, the more people use it, the slower it will be. I'm all for LTE however, as more use it, the faster 4g signal will be. But if you do aa cost benefit analysis(yes, a science-y term), the amount of extra battery consumption for the negligable amount of increased performance would be bad. Until we have things that require those speeds(maybe torrents), you simply wont notice gains worth the extra consumption.
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I think T-mobile should focus on strengthening their signal and offering better speeds in all areas before going LTE. In my recent trip to Florida I basically had to stand in one corner of one room of the house I was staying at to get one bar. I ended up just using my BIL's WIFI the entire time. My MIL has an AT&T old school phone and had fine signal everywhere in the house. It was the same way in the parks.... service going in and out constantly while I saw other ppl on their phones just fine. Not to mention that while I am at work I get 2G at best whilst my AT&T coworkers get 4G. One co-worker just switched from T-mobile to AT&T and said he cannot believe the speed difference. I love T-mobile's customer care, and I have had a great experience with them so I hate to leave but if the signal doesn't improve soon I'm going to be forced to make the switch.
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I live in Florida, used to be Daytona(central florida area), and now jacksonville.. there are a few miles in between that I lose 4g, but I can testify that the east coast down to Miami actually has pretty great coverage. Jacksonvilles signal strength has been amazing everywhere(biggest city in the u.s. by square miles) except for where I just moved, which is the ffirst time I've Ever experienced drops in signal from 4g to 2g to no signal in a few feet.. but that likely has to do witg the interferance from the very close power grid.
While LTE is a great technology with a lot of potential, and it will lessen the burden on other bandwidth spectrums.. the usefulness at the moment is comparable tto the concept of anything more than a quad core(which isn't fully realized) or more than a gig of ram.. diminishing returns. At this point they need new, bigger, and faster features to sell us new phones, just like rom develpers need new features to make new roms worth downloading. I say if it isn't broke, don't fix it. If you like hype.. buy buy buy. At some point it is like buying a new phone that the only difference is that it has siri(I had to throw that in, lol. All hype )
Edit: software is one of the biggest upgrades at the moment. Upgrading from gingerbread to ics will give a bigger performance boost that a faster processor, more cores, or more ram. Everything from the browser on up will be faster than an upgrade to data speed. Or the hardware specs that are neglected on mobile phones that matter just like a computer. How many threads can the processor handle? What's the NM rate of the processor? What is the sspeed of the ram rather than the total? Or how about upgrades to the gpu rather than Number of cores or the amount of ram?
Specs we see are expressed so simple for the consumer to think it matters. Oh, this phone has a 1.7ghz quad core, it must be better than the 1.5ghz. Oh, two gigs of ram, twice as much as the last one! While the smaller harder to understand specs are completely forgotten.
LTE! Bah!
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Silentbtdeadly said:
Have you ever heard of the concept of diminishing returns? At some point increasing the speed of data will give an increase of experience that is so tiny that you won't notice it.. the biggest bottleneck in our data speed is the app that we use to access that data, and the system itself.
With a few build.prop tweaks I consistently get over 18mbs download and 3mbs upload - how much faster can it get? Will a page loading .03 a second faster at higher speeds be worth the battery drain of TRUE lte? Unless the browsing app and the system itself get better, faster data speeds won't do anything you're gonna notice - it is 99.9999999% hype to sell you a new phone or service.
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I am admittedly a bit of a noob. But I would be interested in learning some about build.prop and what lines can be edited. I guess there is always trial and error, but if someone could point me on the right direction that would be cool.
Edit: nm had time to do a bit of searching
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jaytee20 said:
I am admittedly a bit of a noob. But I would be interested in learning some about build.prop and what lines can be edited. I guess there is always trial and error, but if someone could point me on the right direction that would be cool.
Edit: nm had time to do a bit of searching
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Well, I can save you a bit of searching.. no rom in our development section uses the max speeds(except maybe speedrom), but all of these lines exist in any rom and the stock rom's build.prop - if you have different settings, you are getting lower speeds(higher speeds may be possible, these are just the highest I've tested without reducing battery life that I know work):
ro.ril.hsxpa=5
ro.ril.gprsclass=14
ro.ril.enable.dtm=1
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=32
ro.ril.hsupa.category=7
There are tons and tons of lines you can edit or add to the build.prop.. here are some recent ones from the s3 forums that explain what they actually do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769458
There are also some lines in most of our roms that have #comments before them explaining what they do, like disabling checkin services to htc and google, etc.. definitely worth learning tho
The day that data speeds over 5 mbs is "that" important to me is the day i beat myself to death with my own phone
No tweaks and I get average 28 megabits in Austin Texas
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I'm confused about our phone a bit. I thought I had seen that our phone says something about lte in the kernel or somewhere. Why? And I remember faux saying he had disabled it I think
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fcpelayo said:
I'm confused about our phone a bit. I thought I had seen that our phone says something about lte in the kernel or somewhere. Why? And I remember faux saying he had disabled it I think
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It does have LTE listed, you can even find it in the APN settings, but it's completely pointless without the hardware, which our device doesn't have, reason being why faux disabled it.
Dark Nightmare said:
It does have LTE listed, you can even find it in the APN settings, but it's completely pointless without the hardware, which our device doesn't have, reason being why faux disabled it.
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So why would we even have it on the software level?
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Droid Life came out with a full review today. The battery life is quite good according to them (average life of 21 hours), but surprisingly he reported some 4G drop issues and said the camera wasn't that great. I'm hoping the signal was just a fluke, but it seems to be since other big reviewers have said it's top notch.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/19/htc-droid-dna-review/
I saw it, and though meh on the 4G drop. It could have easily been in his area. Of all the reviews I've seen he was the only one to have that issue. I also thought the photo samples he had were really not as bad as he described them to be either.
As much as I want to jump on this phone, the only issue I seem to have now is storage space. It's this or the GN2. I still don't know?
8192 on Quads! Thanks sick!
Damn it when will Wednesday get here??!??!!!?!?!!
I actually experience the 3g/4g drop often on my galaxy nexus and I live in the bay area. Definitely sucks my battery to oblivion. Since HTC is said to make better radios I hope the drops would be less frequent.
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foolie said:
I actually experience the 3g/4g drop often on my galaxy nexus and I live in the bay area. Definitely sucks my battery to oblivion. Since HTC is said to make better radios I hope the drops would be less frequent.
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I wouldn't worry about it, when I got the GNex I my thunderbolt up and running for a couple days and the radios are noticeably stronger and more stable on the Thunderbolt. Side by side I'd get solid 4g on the bolt where the GNex was spotty at best. My house isn't the in the strongest 4g area, but the Tbolt wouldn't drop off the signal no matter where in my home I was. The GNex I get 4g outside or by windows and that's it, with 3g speeds. The tbolt would pull a solid 12-15up 3-5down sitting right next to it.
Not to mention the GNex isn't exactly known for its radios.
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Droid Life came out with a full review today. The battery life is quite good according to them (average life of 21 hours), but surprisingly he reported some 4G drop issues and said the camera wasn't that great. I'm hoping the signal was just a fluke, but it seems to be since other big reviewers have said it's top notch.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/19/htc-droid-dna-review/
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The review doesn't talk about any drops in the traditional sense, but rather that the phone was "dropping back" to 3G in weak 4G areas:
I constantly found the device dropping back to 3G, even when other devices were maintaining a 4G connection, albeit a poor one at that.
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This is something that is done on purpose in order to maintain a more reliable connection without as many actual drops when switching between 3G and 4G. With my Rezound, Galaxy Nexus, and RAZR MAXX, when I would be out on the edge of a 4G area, the phone would jump back and forth between 3G and 4G, resulting in actual drops in service and a drain on the battery. My S3 does what the DNA does - opts to stick with 3G in weak 4G areas. The result is a far more stable connection with less drops in service and much less battery drain.
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The review doesn't talk about any drops in the traditional sense, but rather that the phone was "dropping back" to 3G in weak 4G areas
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Only dropping down from 4G. He said that you can't disable 4G though, but I'm guessing there will be a non-stock way of doing it.
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I also thought the photo samples he had were really not as bad as he described them to be either.
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I thought the pictures looked great, but I'm also comparing them to my 2.5 year old Incredible so pretty much any high end phone, besides maybe Motorolas, will look great to me lol
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Only dropping down from 4G. He said that you can't disable 4G though, but I'm guessing there will be a non-stock way of doing it.
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man i really hope there will be a way you can disable 4G whenever you want. that'd be so useful if i needed to conserve battery and i'm in a spotty 4G area
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Only dropping down from 4G. He said that you can't disable 4G though, but I'm guessing there will be a non-stock way of doing it.
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Pretty much every LTE phone released on Verizon over the past several months hasn't had the option to disable LTE in the stock settings. Even some phones that used to have the option have had it removed in updates (such as the RAZR and RAZR MAXX). But with all of these phones, there have been ways of putting the phone into 3G only mode without root via an app or through settings that can be accessed through the phone's dialer.