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Looks like greatness is coming soon...
New Nexus with 4.2, Open Nexus Program Possible and Android 5.0
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Change we can depend on!! Lol jokes aside looks interesting, Idk about changing the home screens but who knows it may be better
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Squirrel1620 said:
Change we can depend on!! Lol jokes aside looks interesting, Idk about changing the home screens but who knows it may be better
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I like the part about better power management and the overall new Nexus Program.
Sounds good to me. There are definite GUI improvements that could be made. Not sure about "tabs" but anything is worth looking at.
Lastly, there is a chance that we see some sort of a “customization center” that allows you to choose from a stock Android experience or a custom skin from the manufacturer of the phone (Sense from HTC, Blur from Motorola, TouchWiz from Samsung, etc.).
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Awesome. I REALLY like that part. Sounds like a move to address the fragmentation issue??
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Awesome. I REALLY like that part. Sounds like a move to address the fragmentation issue??
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Yes that idea sounds amazing but I wonder how they'll implement that.
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Yes that idea sounds amazing but I wonder how they'll implement that.
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Well, If they could make it cloud based where you can just download the skin you want and it will remove the existing it could work. Plus each manufacturer would be responsible for driver implementation on that hardware. It could work nicely I think.
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Well, If they could make it cloud based where you can just download the skin you want and it will remove the existing it could work. Plus each manufacturer would be responsible for driver implementation on that hardware. It could work nicely I think.
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Either that or they could use part of that 64gb required on all new Nexus phones.
It says 64mb not 64gb :-\
They must include a stock Android experience and 64MB of secure memory for media streaming.
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I saw this yesterday and almost crapped my pants because it was so awesome. No longer will we be stuck with one phone as a nexus phone that has sub-par hardware or have to chose a device with a skin we hate because it has better hardware. I didn't see this but I'm assuming for it to be qualified as a Nexus device it has to have an unlocked bootloader.
Good things are coming soon guys
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Either that or they could use part of that 64gb required on all new Nexus phones.
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That's 64MB, not GB, and it's part of RAM. It's to be used for caching protected content like movies so you can't rip/save streaming content. And it's a bad thing, a lockdown mechanism, a concession to the phone and media companies and protection for Google Play's bottom line.
In fact, I see most of the aspects of this "Nexus Certification" concept as negative and have a very bad feeling about how this will turn out. True Nexus devices have all their hardware drivers and software written by Google, barring some binary pieces. Unfortunately they likely don't have the resources to handle such a differing hardware strata. This may put control back into the manufacturers' hands, meaning:
Poorly written software (and after seeing HTC's custom source, I'll never buy a device with HTC-written software again)
Slow updates or no updates
Delayed stock android. I wouldn't be surprised it it ends up as a "promised" or optional update to be delivered later, and phones end up shipping with proprietary frameworks.
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That's 64MB, not GB, and it's part of RAM. It's to be used for caching protected content like movies so you can't rip/save streaming content. And it's a bad thing, a lockdown mechanism, a concession to the phone and media companies and protection for Google Play's bottom line.
In fact, I see most of the aspects of this "Nexus Certification" concept as negative and have a very bad feeling about how this will turn out. True Nexus devices have all their hardware drivers and software written by Google, barring some binary pieces. Unfortunately they likely don't have the resources to handle such a differing hardware strata. This may put control back into the manufacturers' hands, meaning:
Poorly written software (and after seeing HTC's custom source, I'll never buy a device with HTC-written software again)
Slow updates or no updates
Delayed stock android. I wouldn't be surprised it it ends up as a "promised" or optional update to be delivered later, and phones end up shipping with proprietary frameworks.
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Oh wow I totally misread that ram part. Sounds awful.
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Poorly written software (and after seeing HTC's custom source, I'll never buy a device with HTC-written software again)
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You know, I take this back. By coincidence I just happened on an old newsgroup post: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.omap/55060 where Linus blames everyone for just such a problem.
It's disheartening how these companies just slap together enough to get things working and leave it at that. I can't see any of them doing any more than the bare minimum to get their devices certified, and they'll lack the foresight and effort the Google programmers put towards a single device for certain.
If ownership does become each manufacturer's responsibility, I wonder if we'd lose more things that would be too much of an inconvenience for them, like the Nexus program's timely source code releases.
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You know, I take this back. By coincidence I just happened on an old newsgroup post: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.omap/55060 where Linus blames everyone for just such a problem.
It's disheartening how these companies just slap together enough to get things working and leave it at that. I can't see any of them doing any more than the bare minimum to get their devices certified, and they'll lack the foresight and effort the Google programmers put towards a single device for certain.
If ownership does become each manufacturer's responsibility, I wonder if we'd lose more things that would be too much of an inconvenience for them, like the Nexus program's timely source code releases.
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But really isn't that kind of how business works? Get people to pay as much as possible for something that you can produce as cheap and efficient as possible? Not making excuses for them, but I get the drive to feed the bottom line $$$
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But really isn't that kind of how business works? Get people to pay as much as possible for something that you can produce as cheap and efficient as possible?
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Of course. But up until this point we at least had a true Nexus device that we were sure at least had decent software on it (by virtue only of my opinion ). That was always a last bastion of properly written code. You could buy a device which ran it, or could look to it in order to see how things were intended to be done. It was written both for operation and for reference, and that made it higher quality than something written solely for profit.
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Of course. But up until this point we at least had a true Nexus device that we were sure at least had decent software on it (by virtue only of my opinion ). That was always a last bastion of properly written code. You could buy a device which ran it, or could look to it in order to see how things were intended to be done. It was written both for operation and for reference, and that made it higher quality than something written solely for profit.
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Ah, got it. So if they did this with the next Nexus device, then the only way that it would be good is if it went through an approval process by Google to verify quality control? Sounds good to me!
Related
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/13/samsungs-galaxy-note-is-the-most-useless-phone-ive-seen/
Im kind of at a loss for words on this one.
Yes, it is a large phone
Yes, it is not inteded for the general population
but there is no need to hammer it for its size. The size is what makes it unique and functional! Cant wait to get my carbon blue on friday and prove them wrong!!
Frank
I like how everyone in the comments railed on him . . . lol
That is THE strangest hands-on I have ever read.
The phone is too big. You will look stupid talking on it, people will laugh at you, and you’ll be unhappy if you buy it. I really can’t get around this, unfortunately, because Samsung pushed things way too far this time.
Not even sure what to say.
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That is THE strangest hands-on I have ever read.
The phone is too big. You will look stupid talking on it, people will laugh at you, and you’ll be unhappy if you buy it. I really can’t get around this, unfortunately, because Samsung pushed things way too far this time.
Not even sure what to say.
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Its very embarassing to publish something like that. Sounds like a little kid tyrade!!
The Galaxy Note essentially has everything you’d want in a smartphone: a great dual-core processor, a solid camera, a beautiful display and good build quality, and it runs on AT&T’s new 4G LTE network that delivers incredibly fast downloads speeds. Plus the battery seems actually decent so far, which is a triumph for modern smartphones.
Throw all of that right out the window.
The phone is too big.
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Essentially: Nothing but praise, but it's too big!
If you look at the first picture you can see that the "reviewer" has pretty small hands. It's fair to write an article saying that the phone doesn't work for you, but to say that anyone who uses the phone looks ridiculous and that people will laugh at you is just poor journalism.
I think size 6 shoes are too small, but I don't go around criticizing people that wear them...
it's not something I hide...I can't stand that site.. they rarely back anything up
but this kind of thing happens often with android phones in general....
they get used to simply point out how much better some other device is.
Did you expect anything less from this apple fanboi? He just had not been told by apple yet that a 5.3 inch screen is better than a 3.5 inch screen.
No sense in waiting to get the phone to prove him "wrong". The phone is / will be amazing and the biggest reason I personally bought it was for its size. The guy who wrote the article doesn't like things that are big.......just the same way some people would prefer to drive a Civic over a lifted F350 Diesel. Big deal? The guy is entitled to his opinion as much as you are entitled to your right to buy and enjoy the best smartphone currently out.
I will give him 2 thumbs up on the comment about Android Phones having 7 different flagships in the same year......that part needed to be said. Each time I walk into an AT&T or Verizon store, they have a different lineup of Android phones....but the iPhone is sitting there...in the same place it has for months.....and still outselling all the rest.
Be secure with your purchase - and use it because YOU want to use it, not to use it to prove someone else wrong. That's just......silly.
I guess jockey-sized hipsters shouldn't be reviewing Samsung devices ...
His article kind of reminds me of the Burger King commercial about the guy that doesn't want to go and get a BK Double Cheeseburger because it will make his hands look small.
This is an example of an apple fanboy in fear that android has made a device that totally demolishes the iPhone. Get over it and suck on your apple.
This image sums up my reaction to the article.
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Im kind of at a loss for words on this one.
Yes, it is a large phone
Yes, it is not inteded for the general population
but there is no need to hammer it for its size. The size is what makes it unique and functional!
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BGR --- "but, But, BUT... It's not the size of an iPhone!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaah"
If I was as bad at my job as that guy is at his, I'd be fired.
Im 6'5 and have big hands. I own a HTC Desire HD and every time i went to type on a new rom i either had to install a new keyboard theme with bigger keys or turn to landscape to type. This phone is exactly what i need. Having a stylus is great too because some people can write faster than typing...i do see gimmicks here but what phone doesnt have them? its how they sell. some people use them, some dont.
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BGR Stinks
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Exactly why I get my news reviews from un/less-biased sources like:
-The Verge
-Slashgear
-Ars Technica
-Anandtech
I would suggest going to those instead for tech news. BGR is complete trash (and this is coming from an iPhone user)
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I think size 6 shoes are too small, but I don't go around criticizing people that wear them...
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This sums it up nicely.
If he'd given specific reasons like:
Screen is too big so battery life is horrible
Phone is too big and makes it heavy in the pocket
its not a review but a rant.
Did you see the size of the little hand on that guy? I think BGR should stand for Baby Girl Report.
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its not a review but a rant.
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Not really sure he's claiming anything different, and he does say a proper review is forthcoming. I don't follow bgr--and after reading this I definitely won't--but posting childish rants like this just strikes me as the sort of thing people should reserve for their livejournals and not for a site that would like to provide credible tech info and reviews.
Is the phone too big? As many (reasonable) posters have said in this forum, that's a matter of opinion. Obviously Mr. Geller feels that it is, but I can't imagine why anyone posting with that tone would expect to be taken seriously. The iPhone comparison is particularly ridiculous at this point; while it is more or less indisputable that Samsung's Galaxy line took a great deal of inspiration from the iPhone design (he should have found a pic of the international note with its physical home button to up the similarity!), the Note actually looks significantly less like the iPhone than some of the earlier incarnations. That sort of comparison would be better suited to some BS patent infringement case filing.
This type of article is exactly why I have been posting the details I can get like I did with my in and review thread. tons of details and a few opinions.
I am no journalist but I like to believe people get something useful from it.
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So by now you all have been informed of the stall in imports of the EVO LTE and One X. Lets all go to our local Apple stores and protest this crap. I know customs is at fault, but its due to Apples bullsh*t lawsuits.
Something else that we can do is flood the USPTO with emails, maybe that would speed up the process.
http://www.uspto.gov/about/contacts/emailus.jsp
Wow really what do protest on your local apple store will do?
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So by now you all have been informed of the stall in imports of the EVO LTE and One X. Lets all go to our local Apple stores and protest this crap. I know customs is at fault, but its due to Apples bullsh*t lawsuits.
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Hmm well id def get thrown in jail im black in greenwich ct lol but maybe a facebook massive email and bring it too the powers that control this protesting does not mean going to jail like many did in op wall st we all sit here and complain when we can take logical action ...
Thing is some people have alot of money held up in these devices thlat to me is more impotant than delay
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Htc and the like need to let their junk drop and play the game as apple is. Chits gone on to long. Apple needs to be put into place
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Htc and the like need to let their junk drop and play the game as apple is. Chits gone on to long. Apple needs to be put into place
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I think every company with mobile patents should band together and share patents, just briefly, to sue Apple. End this once and for all. Samsung, HTC, Microsoft, Motorola, RIM, Palm, LG, and anyone else. Burn them to the ground.
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I think every company with mobile patents should band together and share patents, just briefly, to sue Apple. End this once and for all. Samsung, HTC, Microsoft, Motorola, RIM, Palm, LG, and anyone else. Burn them to the ground.
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Amen
I think google should pull all of its apps from the app store and not let apple use any of its services
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Some people take things way too seriously..
twigs187 said:
Some people take things way too seriously..
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thats for sure. Much to learn this one has.
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Hmm well id def get thrown in jail im black in greenwich ct lol
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Lol! I feel you.
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lol o_o
can someone please try to explain why apple decides to bring up these patents within a FEW days before this phone is out.
Apple is getting desperate. Their little fisher price phone is old and turning into a joke next to Android.
Most of Apples stock price is due to cell phone sales, so they should be scared.
I predict Apple will be bankrupt again in 5 years.
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Apple is getting desperate. Their little fisher price phone is old and turning into a joke next to Android.
Most of Apples stock price is due to cell phone sales, so they should be scared.
I predict Apple will be bankrupt again in 5 years.
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Eh, I disagree.
Compared to Google, Apple has their stuff together.
Google's aggravating flaw: They 15 versions of Android OS between how many devices. Android OS distribution has to be fixed.
I'm not saying that Apple products are inherently better- I enjoy having an open, customizable phone that is more than a screen of icons, and having superuser permissions.
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can someone please try to explain why apple decides to bring up these patents within a FEW days before this phone is out.
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They didn't. They brought it up last year. The judge said that HTC had until mid or late april (I forgot the exact date) of this year to fix the issue. ITC just hasn't gotten around to checking HTC's claim that they fixed it yet. This shipment is the first import since that date passed.
The more you know...
Warrior 3000 said:
can someone please try to explain why apple decides to bring up these patents within a FEW days before this phone is out.
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Underhanded, anti-competitive business tactics. This is the way Apple has always operated. Why is anyone surprised by this?
This is what they know is bound to happen (mind you, not with everyone):
1) Consumer sees delay in release of pre-ordered smartphone.
2) Consumer feels slighted and blames HTC/Sprint/Seller
3) Consumer says "Screw them/it... I'm getting an iPhone."
4) Apple profits...
Sad but true. This is business as usual in the Patent Age.
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I predict Apple will be bankrupt again in 5 years.
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Doubtful... They still have other products outside of the mobile sector and a LARGE cache of patents to keep this going until something is done to prevent it.
Warrior 3000 said:
can someone please try to explain why apple decides to bring up these patents within a FEW days before this phone is out.
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Actually, the ITC review has been going on for more than a month.
“It’s really hard to tell how much longer the phones will be held up at the customs, because the review has already taken a month,” said Bonnie Chang, an analyst at Yuanta Securities.
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It's from a NY Times story titled "Patent Dispute Holds Up Sales of 2 HTC Phones in U.S." I can't post a link.
It is just fun to joke around and pretend we can make a difference by complaining about Apple. Though I really will never own another Apple made anything(I hope they don't come out with the first flying car)
Anyone on here apart of Anonymous? Get your people together and DDoS the **** out of Apple's sites lol
The flying car already exists, and no Apple didn't build it , but they are probably filling out a patent app for it now
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Eh, I disagree.
Compared to Google, Apple has their stuff together.
Google's aggravating flaw: They 15 versions of Android OS between how many devices. Android OS distribution has to be fixed.
I'm not saying that Apple products are inherently better- I enjoy having an open, customizable phone that is more than a screen of icons, and having superuser permissions.
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Why does it have to be fixed? If iOS doesn't exist is there a problem with fragmentation? Should I automatically get upgraded to Windows 8 because I bought a computer with Windows 7?
Truly I don't see it as a huge issue. The open nature of Android is what makes it great. The only way to mimic Apple's distribution model is by BECOMING Apple. Of course if you have 4 phones and 3 tablets with the software completely locked down it is easy. You said it your self there are how many phones running android on all sorts of different hardware and UI changes? It would be impossible to have them all running the same version of Android in the same time frame as Apple but who cares? If that truly matters to you buy an Iphone. I have had a blast with Gingerbread on my 3D and playing around with different ICS roms(please do that with an Iphone)
You call it a problem I call it options. Some are low grade running older versions you and I wouldn't touch, but it allows those of a different income to afford a Smart phone. Some people like a physical keyboard, some like big screens, some like smaller screens. Some people like Sense or TW and others plain old Vanilla AOSP. You are telling me all those options are worse than Google locking down Android and releasing 1 to 2 phones/year all made by Motorola(considering they own it) just so you can get the latest version quickly , because that is the only way? WHY?
So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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The only thought to be had about the matter right now is, it might require KNOX, it might not.
It's not even a thing at the moment, so there's just no real information about it out there.
i'm willing to give up root for samsung pay.
samsung pay is so awesome! it said loopPay works with 90% of retailers, so which 10% of retailers dont work?
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So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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Plus their talking the summer before it's live and that's just the U.S., and Korea, that means NOTHING in the real world. Who's summer, early or late summer, is it a update the carries must push or just an app? I wanted to give it a go if it was "working out the box" but again it was another Samsung marketing scheme! Note 5, S7, may have it working out the box.
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I can't imagine that Knox will be required for samsung pay, but having an unrooted phone might..
Time will tell
Confirmed, samsung pay won't work with rooted phones
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how is it confirmed ?
loopPay is not out yet, no one has used it.
I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
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how is it confirmed ?
loopPay is not out yet, no one has used it.
I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
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It might no be 100% confirmed but common sense would say that it wouldn't work with a modified OS. Payment security is a big deal and massive concern for many company's .
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I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
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i dont get it either. apple devices support ApplePay at day one. Facepalm.
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
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tiboric said:
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
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It wont improve your life..
Logic rarely comes into play when a cell phone feature is marketed as "must have";
The reality is, if you plan on using your cell phone as your financial conduit in your daily life, you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of identity theft, hackers, and the nightmare of a lost or misplaced /hacked/phone /credit card machine..
I mean I have used Google wallet a couple times for proof of concept, but I am much too cautious, and concerned about using ANY electronic device in the manner that Samsung is hawking this process; don't forget, Samsung will make a commission on EVERY TRANSACTION you might do with your cell phone, so, as always, its only motivation is more profit for Samsung, nothing more, and nothing less
If you are all for that, enjoy this procedure, whenever it happens to come out.
But, the vast majority of us will continue to pay as we always have..
Its just as easy to take a credit card out of my pocket, as it is to take my cell phone out of my pocket..
wase4711 said:
It wont improve your life..
Logic rarely comes into play when a cell phone feature is marketed as "must have";
The reality is, if you plan on using your cell phone as your financial conduit in your daily life, you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of identity theft, hackers, and the nightmare of a lost or misplaced /hacked/phone /credit card machine..
I mean I have used Google wallet a couple times for proof of concept, but I am much too cautious, and concerned about using ANY electronic device in the manner that Samsung is hawking this process; don't forget, Samsung will make a commission on EVERY TRANSACTION you might do with your cell phone, so, as always, its only motivation is more profit for Samsung, nothing more, and nothing less
If you are all for that, enjoy this procedure, whenever it happens to come out.
But, the vast majority of us will continue to pay as we always have..
Its just as easy to take a credit card out of my pocket, as it is to take my cell phone out of my pocket..
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Good reply. Thanks. Just thought I was missing something .
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tiboric said:
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
Cheers
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It won't drastically improve your life, but it's a practical feature that can be useful for some people. Maybe for people who don't like carrying wallets. You can just stick your ID in between your phone and your phone case, and you're good to go.
Also, if you forget your wallet... Something that might happen these days considering how everyone has their phone with them no matter what.
If we can use Samsung pay with next Gear Watch like Apple did with their Watch... Man, that is huge.
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Try signing my petition to allow rooted users to use Samsung Pay
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-allow-people-with-rooted-phones-to-use-samsung-pay
Signed.
Guys I bought this device when it first came out, never did I ever think there would be zero dev interest in the device, or perhaps it would be better to state that the reason there isn't much in the way of dev interest is because Huawei has this device locked down with EMUI and it appears no one can break through. For those who don't need root then this doesn't really matter, but most of my apps do require root. My final solution was to forget the Huawei device and I bought what I believe is the most powerful device on the market today and I've already rooted it and I'm flying along. That device is the Asus Rog Phone 2, you might want to take a look at this and then decide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wwe5OW_jPE
I wish all of you the very best but I had enough of Huawei. To be fair I don't think the problem is all about Huawei, a big part of it is the clown in the White House.
I'm out of here, Krissy
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
Take a look here.
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
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I'm not a gamer either, my philosophy however is that gaming devices are more reliable and sturdy because of the punishment they take from actual gamer's. My thought is it if holds up for a gamer then it should be no problem for me. So far this phone has proven me correct. One of the specs that blows me away is that there is a setting to set the device to 240 refresh, that's pretty darn quick. If you have any questions I'm open to answering them, that's how impressed I am with this puppy
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
"All your apps" require root? Your phone sounds FUN! Seriously, no games? No social media? I agree, a lot of apps need root, all of which are important, if you're rooted. Ad-block is the main reason for rooting, but you can't just have ad-block, you need Magisk manager, obviously. And twrp manager, because you need twrp to flash your root. Root browser, for those times you need to fix things you screwed up by being rooted. Greenify, to act as a placebo, because now you're rooted you can't be sure things work as they should. Busy Box for... erm, well nobody really knows what that's for. So yeah that's at least 6 apps. For one thing.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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100% completely agree with you. Have rooted all my android phones in the last 10 years and bought P30 Pro knowing couldn't root it. I use adguard private DNS to block ads and then found out can used YouTube vanced on non rooted phones by simply installing the apk. After thinking could never live without root I'm finding it particularly easy at the moment!
I've rooted every Android phone I've ever had, except my Honor 9, but don't really feel the need for the P30 Pro. Sure there are apps I can't use or install because I'm not rooted but that doesn't detract from an amazing phone. Those [required root ] apps I can probably do without anyway.
Would you run Linux as root permanently? Really?
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
I am also disappointed but these days there is less and less reason for root. Right not, there are only three features I miss without root:
1. No Titanium Backup, so no easy way to do a full backup and make sure everything is backed up and can be restored
2. No way to limit battery charge (so it doesnt go up to 100%)
3. No DNS adblock (VPN work around is the closest I can find but that seems like it would drain battery)
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The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
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Android is NOT "marketed as open source". Show me a commercial website where it is "marketed" as such.
Android IS open source for OEMs to adapt to their devices! You bought a piece of hardware from Huawei, with a compiled Android OS. You can get the source code for Android if you want, but it comes with no hardware and no guarantee.
And your car analogy is terrible. Imagine modifying your car's software... and then your tachometer doesn't work right, or your battery drains, or your car won't start... totally unacceptable. Yet you want to do that to your phone?
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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The closest analogy for the car example is remapping the ECU. Manufacturers go to great lengths to encrypt ECUs and prevent mapping - much like locking a bootloader.
A lot of car mappers have to physically solder wires to certain points on the ECU circuitboard to enable them to map and edit the ECU programming. I'm fairly certain that if you went to that extreme to root your phone you could manage it, but nobody wants root *that* much.
And if you own a car that no engine mapper fancies finding a way to map? You're SOL - much like you are with your P30 Pro.
I used to root, now I dont. I find the devices now do 99% of the things I need without root. The 1%? I can live without Titanium Backup.
I'm sure the Asus device is powerful, but a lot of the people here bought the P30 Pro because they wanted a P30 Pro, not a different phone. Thanks for the review, but it's like going on a VW forum and saying 'OMG guys, sell up and go buy this BMW - IT'S AMAZING' - we're here because we wanted the VW...
@Isis111
Now you've had your ROG 2 for a while how are you getting along with it?
Since this thread I've been following the ROG 2 forum but even though root is available there's not much development happening. I was initially very interested after you started this thread but now I'm not sure the ROG 2 is as good as you said.
So I'm interested what your thoughts are now.
Also, what version do you have, and have you been impressed enough to buy any accessories?
Cheers
Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
I'm with you in this, impatiently waiting for Calyx/Graphene A12 and P6 support. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much we can do until then. Just restrict as many permissions as you can, don't sign in to too many things and use websites instead of apps when possible
I always stayed away from anything that is Chrome related.
I use Duckduckgo as my browser.
Brave is another...
axelmasok said:
Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
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As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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IT would be best to wait for a custom ROM to sideload
Yeah,uhumm..Me too want a Google phone without Google apps.Yes,uhumm also i want a stable OS without bugs and good performance, good battery life too.But not the way Google make the phone, the chip and HIS operating system.no, no,no i want to archive this any other way possible.Then U see this dude coming back with "I don't know what's happening, I have a lot of bugs and a lot of app crashing. My system is unstable. I don't want this phone.Copy his user name and wait..
Here are the apps I froze. I could probably freeze more but it's a good start i'd say. I didn't sign in to any google account. It's not perfect but that's temporary, patiently waiting for custom ROMs too
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Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
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Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
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Sure, let me know if I missed any other app that seems important to freeze.
I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
96carboard said:
I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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1) My build wouldn't help you. Like I said, its for p6p, not the basic-p6 in here.
2) 15 minutes of reading is all it takes to figure out how to build it yourself. The security risk of using something built by someone you don't know doesn't justify it.
3) couldn't tell you about fingerprint sensors, biometric security isn't protected by anti-self-incrimination laws, so I would never use and recommend that nobody ever use it. You should only use knowledge-based security.
I guess we are lazy? Or an underestimated minority?
I'm wondering why an AOSP build isn't available already from some kind person, or even a walk through with comments and experiences from someone already on this planet? Nothing on Youtube either.
Or is it so easy people do it quietly and assume it's common knowledge.
You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
sic0048 said:
You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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You can enjoy Android without enjoying Google bloat/spyware you know...
I think they are just joking with the iPhone jib so no need to overreact all.
I read up on source.android.com and it all looks well documented yes. But.
400G of free HDD space, 60GB+ of source to download, overnight compiling....
I've not done it before, let alone testing on a brand new phone...plus with 2 kids and a puppy and not much sleep...
If your in your 20s and have a couple of Pixel phones and lots of free time - have a go and let us know your experiences creating a ROM. If it works on your P6, I'll try it on mine
Those many GB is not that much these days. Not like anyone is using 9600 bps dialup any more. And overnight compiles are not that bad, not like you really need to watch it. Set it to go and go to bed.
Or if you have a faster computer, just give it an hour.
But I do hear you on the kids and dog getting in the way. I have 3 kids under 10 and a dog. Oh, I'm an accountant.
It's funny that people use Android and try to De-Google their phone.
What is even more hilarious is buying a phone actually made by Google themselves and trying to De-Goolge that same device