Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
I'm with you in this, impatiently waiting for Calyx/Graphene A12 and P6 support. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much we can do until then. Just restrict as many permissions as you can, don't sign in to too many things and use websites instead of apps when possible
I always stayed away from anything that is Chrome related.
I use Duckduckgo as my browser.
Brave is another...
axelmasok said:
Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
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As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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Aulgreg38 said:
As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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IT would be best to wait for a custom ROM to sideload
Yeah,uhumm..Me too want a Google phone without Google apps.Yes,uhumm also i want a stable OS without bugs and good performance, good battery life too.But not the way Google make the phone, the chip and HIS operating system.no, no,no i want to archive this any other way possible.Then U see this dude coming back with "I don't know what's happening, I have a lot of bugs and a lot of app crashing. My system is unstable. I don't want this phone.Copy his user name and wait..
Here are the apps I froze. I could probably freeze more but it's a good start i'd say. I didn't sign in to any google account. It's not perfect but that's temporary, patiently waiting for custom ROMs too
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Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
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Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
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Sure, let me know if I missed any other app that seems important to freeze.
I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
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I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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1) My build wouldn't help you. Like I said, its for p6p, not the basic-p6 in here.
2) 15 minutes of reading is all it takes to figure out how to build it yourself. The security risk of using something built by someone you don't know doesn't justify it.
3) couldn't tell you about fingerprint sensors, biometric security isn't protected by anti-self-incrimination laws, so I would never use and recommend that nobody ever use it. You should only use knowledge-based security.
I guess we are lazy? Or an underestimated minority?
I'm wondering why an AOSP build isn't available already from some kind person, or even a walk through with comments and experiences from someone already on this planet? Nothing on Youtube either.
Or is it so easy people do it quietly and assume it's common knowledge.
You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
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You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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You can enjoy Android without enjoying Google bloat/spyware you know...
I think they are just joking with the iPhone jib so no need to overreact all.
I read up on source.android.com and it all looks well documented yes. But.
400G of free HDD space, 60GB+ of source to download, overnight compiling....
I've not done it before, let alone testing on a brand new phone...plus with 2 kids and a puppy and not much sleep...
If your in your 20s and have a couple of Pixel phones and lots of free time - have a go and let us know your experiences creating a ROM. If it works on your P6, I'll try it on mine
Those many GB is not that much these days. Not like anyone is using 9600 bps dialup any more. And overnight compiles are not that bad, not like you really need to watch it. Set it to go and go to bed.
Or if you have a faster computer, just give it an hour.
But I do hear you on the kids and dog getting in the way. I have 3 kids under 10 and a dog. Oh, I'm an accountant.
It's funny that people use Android and try to De-Google their phone.
What is even more hilarious is buying a phone actually made by Google themselves and trying to De-Goolge that same device
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I saw some moron demanding that ppl work on getting Android to work on Raphael..... what a dumbass..... and I clicked a few links deep from the Wiki mentioned and found this thread:
http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=237
It was very easy installation, and I am now running Android, have some fun testing for the developers now....
Recommend U all try it!
would you mind posting some screenshots? and if i want to flash it back to WinMo, will there be any problem?
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would you mind posting some screenshots? and if i want to flash it back to WinMo, will there be any problem?
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You don't flash your device with it. You essential launch it from file explorer and phone boots into it. A soft reset brings you back to WM.
mindphasr said:
You don't flash your device with it. You essential launch it from file explorer and phone boots into it. A soft reset brings you back to WM.
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thx for the quick reply, guess i'll giv it a shot...
You can also press and hold the end call button, and you can choose 'Power Off' but I still end up having to soft-reset, many things are not working, but i'm sure that will all get worked out at some point, wish i could do more for the project than just installing it lol
Mirror Needed.
Can you upload the files needed.
I tried downloading from the site that you posted but I am unable to do so.
Thanks,
This one worked for me, I hit a broken link also
http://connect-utb.com/index.php?op...6:android-for-htc-touch-pro-raph100&Itemid=68
Can mirror if it still doesn't work
Here is a more precise link to install instructions, and a download link:
http://connect-utb.com/index.php?op...id=68&id=16:android-for-htc-touch-pro-raph100
Seems there are multiple builds for Raph100 and Raph800, dont know the difference, here is the global link with download links:
The one at the top is the newest for Raph100, and the one I installed
http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=folder&Itemid=68&id=3:htc-raphael
Thank you.
Thanks for the download links. Downloading now...will give it a whirl
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002
All the info you need. It covers working on Diamond and Raphael, thats the main page for the project.
Oh and the stuff posted on utb.com is outdated.
And there is a page in the xda wiki just search for Raphael Linux.
clmbngbkng said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002
All the info you need. It covers working on Diamond and Raphael, thats the main page for the project.
Oh and the stuff posted on utb.com is outdated.
And there is a page in the xda wiki just search for Raphael Linux.
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Thanks, this site is too huge
Can you point us all to a current build that's this easy to install?
very nice work. looking forward to future developments!
The RAPH100 is the GSM version, the RAPH800 is the CDMA version.
The link in my signature guides you to the thread where this is being developed. It's been a bit silent lately though.
I actually Gave this a Whirl and pretty Impressive... SMS was even Working. Camera doesn't Fuction and Ask for a Storage card to be inserted which is Weird cause ur reading the OS from the card lol.... Good find though...
I hope android will be fully ported on raphael soon
unfortunately for now it isn't for everyday use
+1 on screenshots...this is worth looking into.
krook6023 said:
+1 on screenshots...this is worth looking into.
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This isn't ready for prime time yet. There is a lot of hardware support missing as I write this (e.g. no suspending or powering off, no Bluetooth, WiFi, or anything but plain GSM [GPRS, 3G, etc], no accelerometer, no sound [and no sound I/O in calls, so you can't hear or be heard], no cameras, et cetera).
The lion's share of the problems aren't with Android, they're with providing Linux device drivers for all of the machine's hardware. Android itself seems to work just fine with what devices the Linux kernel gives it!
But in the hopes that this may spark some more creative interest from kernel hackers (*) (as opposed to such comments as 'but why wasn't it ready twenty years ago?'), here are some rough (and fuzzy) screenshots from my Touch Pro:
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(*) I'd love to get involved myself, but my kernel hacking experience is in bigger, heavier devices with fewer radios. (but I'm looking around the kernel sources regardless).
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(*) I'd love to get involved myself, but my kernel hacking experience is in bigger, heavier devices with fewer radios. (but I'm looking around the kernel sources regardless).
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FYI some of the developers that are working on it can be found on IRC (freenode) at #htc-linux, including myself. In case you have some questions...
NetRipper said:
FYI some of the developers that are working on it can be found on IRC (freenode) at #htc-linux, including myself. In case you have some questions...
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Thanks. I'm not much of an IRC user, though this is A Good Cause. I've checked out the kernel source and had a look through some interesting bits. Went through the memory maps etc on the wiki and realised just what brave souls you guys are (some of this stuff is truly obtuse — but I know the rewards when you finally manage to get some bizarre device working). Having a look at the basics of ARM Assembly now (never had much reason to use it before). I generally have very little free time, but I obsess easily, and I'd really like to have something other than Windows on my Raphael.
(plus, logging into my phone via ssh amuses me — haven't been this amused since the Zaurus)
Hi!
android now have the times tested (Raph100), is a beautiful thing. Will not single network connection. Neither wireless nor USB 3G yet.
Why is this and how can I set up?
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I have no clue why or who ever in Samsung development messed this up, but when you stream flash videos in full screen the notification does not auto hide. To me this is completely unacceptable as it ruins the possibility of "full screen" and it can actually damage the oled in these phones.
I think this fix should be a MUST for any developer currently making rooms for this phone. The only from currently that I know of that fixes it is Cyanogen.. but I do want a stable ICS and oh boy can't we all dream of a perfect aosp from... dreams of super fast clean friendly user experience...
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They are still beta builds so stop moaning until we get official roms.
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I think this fix should be a MUST for any developer currently making rooms for this phone.
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And you feel that you can issue demands to the devs because...?? Why are you so special?
Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms? The only thing I'm wondering is why has this not been addressed by the community? Why is this still "OK" and why are trolls immediately the only ones present in this forum?
There's a Q&A for ya..
Its funny how you think my suggestion is un warranted. I just desperately want to ruin my phone with burn in right?
It's not your suggestion, it's your attitude.
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Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms? The only thing I'm wondering is why has this not been addressed by the community? Why is this still "OK" and why are trolls immediately the only ones present in this forum?
There's a Q&A for ya..
Its funny how you think my suggestion is un warranted. I just desperately want to ruin my phone with burn in right?
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AS said above, it looks like your are running ICS which is in beta and has not been officially released, you are complaining about an unfinished, unofficially released BETA rom.
You may need some time of reflection and a lot of reading to understand what you are doing......
Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms?
You answer your question yourself why build a rom based on a half assed buggy beta release .
Put in a very simple way . Why waste time on a buggy beta build that may be very different come release day .
When ICS is released and if a dev thinks its worth fixing your problem i am sure they will .
jje
OK it sounds like no one understood , I will attempt to explain this better. This is NOT an ICS problem this problem is with EVERY rom including stock update strait from Kies. I went as far as contacting Samsung to get a fix, but as you can see in my profile I live in the US and the US Samsung will not help me with my UK phone. Why everything between us is so divided beats me but still the issue remains.
As I stated currently the only rom that fixes it is Cyanogen but just as JJ stated why use a buggy beta when the release will be much different/better. Also I am currently running ICS and have not encountered a single bug. Everything works perfect except for Samsung's stupid attempt to burn in my screen. I don't know about everyone else but I paid $580 for this phone and the last thing I want is a permanent" 3g" on my screen...
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OK it sounds like no one understood , I will attempt to explain this better. This is NOT an ICS problem this problem is with EVERY rom including stock update strait from Kies. I went as far as contacting Samsung to get a fix, but as you can see in my profile I live in the US and the US Samsung will not help me with my UK phone. Why everything between us is so divided beats me but still the issue remains.
As I stated currently the only rom that fixes it is Cyanogen but just as JJ stated why use a buggy beta when the release will be much different/better. Also I am currently running ICS and have not encountered a single bug. Everything works perfect except for Samsung's stupid attempt to burn in my screen. I don't know about everyone else but I paid $580 for this phone and the last thing I want is a permanent" 3g" on my screen...
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Then give us more information. Saying that streaming videos don't go full screen is no where near enough. What ROM, website, browser etc are you using because the last time I tried this (Not long after the S2 was released) it worked just fine. I tried a 720p video from megaupload and it went full screen just fine. Same with youtube/youtube app. Give more information, not attitude. Also, i'd wager than there is zero chance of your display burning in a 3G icon. Perhaps the full notification bar if you use MIUI/a white or light theme but I highly doubt the majority of people will experience any burn in, never mind such a small specific burn in.
Fair enough.. more info. I usually run completely stock and decided to play around with ics. A main site I stream with is twitch.TV (I am a big starcraft2 player and use the pro streams to get better) while I'm at work I watch for hours sometimes 7 hours straight. This WILL cause burn in.
When the problem occurs:
Watching ANY true flash video online(not YouTube app) while in full screen mode in any browser or Rom besides cyanogen.
If you don't believe me test it yourself. Go to twitch.TV pick a stream let the video load and click the full screen button. If you have a rom that the notification bar disappears let me know and you won't hear.me "moan" anymore.
Or maybe one of you super nice Brits can call UK Samsung and get an official fix. The number is 08702420303.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197496
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Does this work on the new ICS browser? I only see 2.xx on there. It would be a beneficial trade but I just started enjoying the new browser :/
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Does this work on the new ICS browser? I only see 2.xx on there. It would be a beneficial trade but I just started enjoying the new browser :/
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Download the diff, check for relevant changes (there's not many for fullscreen) and mod your own browser. Before you ask, I'm not going to hold your hand on this one, and am not willing to do it for you either (I don't use an ICS ROM).
Not asking for any hand holding or hand outs for that matter.. one last question can it be done completely from the phone?
Actually nvm that browser mod will not work with ics. Even states in that post "should be comparable with 2.3.x roms.
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Actually nvm that browser mod will not work with ics.
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Sure it will, you just have to be willing to put in some work. Namely, as I already said, downloading the diff, checking for relevant changes (I think there's only two changes relating to full screen) and getting them into your Browser.apk. You're probably going to need to do some reading.
Judging by this part of your post:
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one last question can it be done completely from the phone?
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I'm going to make a guess you won't bother with this.
I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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Its simple. If you want root... and can't do it, then don't upgrade the firmware.
There is a mind set that people have... (me included somewhat)...
... its that we want 'updates' and think that it going to make our device so much better or faster than before. Reality is that despite a couple of fix's that we have had recently, the updates are not essential. or have not improved our experience dramatically. There is no need to update... its not going to give you much.
for me root is essential. I wont be updating to 290 unless I can get my ROM rooted and full working.
I know I'm ranting.... but when in Rome... :victory:
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LORDDDDD man I love your replies to my threads, I am starting to enjoy that you watch all my posts.
But seriously is that going to be the trend for getting root from now on that we have to wait for long times. I hope not. As root is very important for me as I use gl2sd app to move my big games to external sd.
why Is rooting a certain device more difficult than others, is because we don't have too many developers that bought our device. I just would like to know.
why for example samsung devices almost instantly get root?
hykhleif said:
LORDDDDD man I love your replies to my threads, I am starting to enjoy that you watch all my posts.
But seriously is that going to be the trend for getting root from now on that we have to wait for long times. I hope not. As root is very important for me as I use gl2sd app to move my big games to external sd.
why Is rooting a certain device more difficult than others, is because we don't have too many developers that bought our device. I just would like to know.
why for example samsung devices almost instantly get root?
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You want unlocked phone right? Unlock bootloader then, as simple as it gets.
Samsung is different because:
1. A lot of consumer which are hackers too, there
2. Samsung device is battery removable, indicating that it is much easier to access the device hardware wise. It was easy to semi-'unlock' my Xperia Ray due to removable battery.
3. AFAIK with all this, it seems that Samsung's devices is not as secure as Sony's devices. Have heard about rootkit virus in Desktop? Yeah the same problem came into mind with a rootable device which is insecure to hacker attack to alter the system partition.
So the only way out if you MUST have ROOT is to unlock the bootloader (i.e. it is purely your device, no Sony warranty will cover it). Unless some extreme hacker more extreme than our friend DoomLord could find the hole while keeping bootloader locked, we can wave goodbye to root in the mean time. Even if the mentioned miracle happens, Sony will quickly patch the hole for you
hykhleif said:
I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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Lord Manhattan is not the one you should worry about but rather moderators...
Root is achieved through exploits as they do represent a security breach in the OS. In other words, root is a double edged sword as giving permissions to the wrong app for the wrong thing could lead to bad consequences. Because companies don't exactly feel like being liable for leaving a "vulnerable device" in the shelves, they normally tend to tighten things like this up.
Devs on xda (and the entire Android community for that matter) work very hard to bring you the exploits. Getting impatient and ranting about your discontent will only make you look like self entitled and will do nothing but to give an open entry for people who love the community to flame you to smithereens...
With that being said, I am closing your thread. Please don't post like this anymore.... it is entirely useless and you will do nothing other than piss people off.
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FYI, this is now a thing. Seriously, why develop a ROM and not release it?!?!
http://ryancuda.blogspot.com/2015/06/cm-121-lge-vk810-altev-gpad-83-verizon.html
Download here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hi23dq01fg8yks5/cm-12.1-20150628-UNOFFICIAL-vk810.zip?dl=0
Thanks for this. I'll give the XDA Thanks when I'm back on the app. Cheers!
Has anyone flashed this?
Reports?
I flashed it. Seems to work pretty well. I don't have a SIM to test mobile data but WiFi works fine. The only issue I have is that no matter what widget I put on any homescreen using stock or nova they are gone after my next reboot.
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I flashed it. Seems to work pretty well. I don't have a SIM to test mobile data but WiFi works fine. The only issue I have is that no matter what widget I put on any homescreen using stock or nova they are gone after my next reboot.
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Site says that LTE doesn't work, unfortunately. Them network blobs... :crying:
N00b-un-2 said:
FYI, this is now a thing. Seriously, why develop a ROM and not release it?!?!
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Yea, you should probably post what repos you used to build this.
Thanks for the cred by the way.
N00b-un-2 said:
FYI, this is now a thing. Seriously, why develop a ROM and not release it?!?!
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Because it was not fully developed yet. I sent @invisiblek a VK810 to get CM12 going on this device and he/we were trying to work out some of the remaining issues before posting it. Life got too busy for me so had very little time to work on the vk810. @invisiblek basically got this going himself. Hoping to have radio issue resolved next time I get a chance to play on this.
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Yea, you should probably post what repos you used to build this.
Thanks for the cred by the way.
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Because it was not fully developed yet. I sent @invisiblek a VK810 to get CM12 going on this device and he/we were trying to work out some of the remaining issues before posting it. Life got too busy for me so had very little time to work on the vk810. @invisiblek basically got this going himself. Hoping to have radio issue resolved next time I get a chance to play on this.
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I'm not trying to start anything here. I kind of assumed everyone knew that the CM12.1 repos were InvisibleK's. Forked from NGVincent's github, which was forked from upstream CM11 V500 official. I'm not trying to take credit for anyone else's work. I'm just trying to get the ROM into people's hands. That's how open source works. you write something, you release it. But the average user (yes, even here on XDA) does not use Linux, much less knows how to build a ROM. It's not like i'm trying to take credit for anyone else's work
Thanks goes out to everyone else who worked on this, PaperWastage, CyanogenMod Team, TheRodeWarrior, DrGravy, etc. and anyone else I've missed.
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I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but with the amount of work InvisibleK does for CM, I assumed he was part of CM Team. I'm sorry if this is not the case.
As we are all aware, GPS and 4G do not work due to some issues with the RIL. I've looked into it. NGVincent looked into it. InivisibleK looked into it. nobody has it working because the modem is a proprietary blob that no other CM supported device uses (except for the Droid Maxx HD, but it uses the CDMA side so still not of much use to us). To be completely honest, I doubt it's ever going to get fixed until some other pure LTE device that uses the msm8960 gets a GooglePlay Edition. either that, or someone with a whole lot more free time and talent than any of us have sits down and reverse engineers the RIL from the stock ROM. Probably not gonna happen...
The fact of the matter is, that while having working data would be nice (and certainly the last major hurdle to get over before official CM status can be achieved), it's hardly a deal breaker. To be honest, on my tablet I could care less. I only ever use it in places I have WiFi anyway (work/home). We've been using a 4G-less CM11 ROM for at least as long as I've been developing for this tablet, and nobody seemed to have any complaints about it. Only positive things to say.
and for the record, it's come to my attention that semi-nightly builds are available here at http://www.invisiblek.org/roms/cm-12.1/vk810/
credit where due...
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Guys I bought this device when it first came out, never did I ever think there would be zero dev interest in the device, or perhaps it would be better to state that the reason there isn't much in the way of dev interest is because Huawei has this device locked down with EMUI and it appears no one can break through. For those who don't need root then this doesn't really matter, but most of my apps do require root. My final solution was to forget the Huawei device and I bought what I believe is the most powerful device on the market today and I've already rooted it and I'm flying along. That device is the Asus Rog Phone 2, you might want to take a look at this and then decide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wwe5OW_jPE
I wish all of you the very best but I had enough of Huawei. To be fair I don't think the problem is all about Huawei, a big part of it is the clown in the White House.
I'm out of here, Krissy
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
Take a look here.
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
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I'm not a gamer either, my philosophy however is that gaming devices are more reliable and sturdy because of the punishment they take from actual gamer's. My thought is it if holds up for a gamer then it should be no problem for me. So far this phone has proven me correct. One of the specs that blows me away is that there is a setting to set the device to 240 refresh, that's pretty darn quick. If you have any questions I'm open to answering them, that's how impressed I am with this puppy
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
"All your apps" require root? Your phone sounds FUN! Seriously, no games? No social media? I agree, a lot of apps need root, all of which are important, if you're rooted. Ad-block is the main reason for rooting, but you can't just have ad-block, you need Magisk manager, obviously. And twrp manager, because you need twrp to flash your root. Root browser, for those times you need to fix things you screwed up by being rooted. Greenify, to act as a placebo, because now you're rooted you can't be sure things work as they should. Busy Box for... erm, well nobody really knows what that's for. So yeah that's at least 6 apps. For one thing.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
astralbee said:
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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100% completely agree with you. Have rooted all my android phones in the last 10 years and bought P30 Pro knowing couldn't root it. I use adguard private DNS to block ads and then found out can used YouTube vanced on non rooted phones by simply installing the apk. After thinking could never live without root I'm finding it particularly easy at the moment!
I've rooted every Android phone I've ever had, except my Honor 9, but don't really feel the need for the P30 Pro. Sure there are apps I can't use or install because I'm not rooted but that doesn't detract from an amazing phone. Those [required root ] apps I can probably do without anyway.
Would you run Linux as root permanently? Really?
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
I am also disappointed but these days there is less and less reason for root. Right not, there are only three features I miss without root:
1. No Titanium Backup, so no easy way to do a full backup and make sure everything is backed up and can be restored
2. No way to limit battery charge (so it doesnt go up to 100%)
3. No DNS adblock (VPN work around is the closest I can find but that seems like it would drain battery)
rubiicon59 said:
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
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Android is NOT "marketed as open source". Show me a commercial website where it is "marketed" as such.
Android IS open source for OEMs to adapt to their devices! You bought a piece of hardware from Huawei, with a compiled Android OS. You can get the source code for Android if you want, but it comes with no hardware and no guarantee.
And your car analogy is terrible. Imagine modifying your car's software... and then your tachometer doesn't work right, or your battery drains, or your car won't start... totally unacceptable. Yet you want to do that to your phone?
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
rubiicon59 said:
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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The closest analogy for the car example is remapping the ECU. Manufacturers go to great lengths to encrypt ECUs and prevent mapping - much like locking a bootloader.
A lot of car mappers have to physically solder wires to certain points on the ECU circuitboard to enable them to map and edit the ECU programming. I'm fairly certain that if you went to that extreme to root your phone you could manage it, but nobody wants root *that* much.
And if you own a car that no engine mapper fancies finding a way to map? You're SOL - much like you are with your P30 Pro.
I used to root, now I dont. I find the devices now do 99% of the things I need without root. The 1%? I can live without Titanium Backup.
I'm sure the Asus device is powerful, but a lot of the people here bought the P30 Pro because they wanted a P30 Pro, not a different phone. Thanks for the review, but it's like going on a VW forum and saying 'OMG guys, sell up and go buy this BMW - IT'S AMAZING' - we're here because we wanted the VW...
@Isis111
Now you've had your ROG 2 for a while how are you getting along with it?
Since this thread I've been following the ROG 2 forum but even though root is available there's not much development happening. I was initially very interested after you started this thread but now I'm not sure the ROG 2 is as good as you said.
So I'm interested what your thoughts are now.
Also, what version do you have, and have you been impressed enough to buy any accessories?
Cheers