Hey guys, I recently upgraded to the Amaze from the venerable HD2 & one of the things that I've noticed (glaringly) is how little development is going on for the Amaze, esp. compared to that old device!
I had briefly tinkered w/ a Rezound while considering switching to Page Plus but settled on a T-Mo monthly plan. Anyway, needless to say, I've been disappointed in the output of new ROMs.
My question is (& by no means am I a developer, just an end-user), it seems there are a lot of similarities between the Rezound & Amaze (besides CDMA & screen resolution). And Rezound development seems to be humming along. Is it possible to do some ROM development from a Rezound base (esp. GSM varieties) to kick start things for the Amaze?
I did some searching but only came upon this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688761&highlight=rezound
Any thoughts?
The biggest problem we have in the amaze community is HTC isn't releasing any source info for WiFi and bluetooth making it hard to troubleshoot kernel related problems. The next thing is we don't have working data on AOSP the great devs we do have figured it's a messed up ril file but there time is full with school and life. Faux is doing the best he can with kernel development and sport and eclipze are rocking out roms.
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I see. Please excuse my noobness but can't we take the necessary & working stock files & use them in custom ROMs, say, from a Rezound? I know I've got to be oversimplifying it!
Gosh I wish I were a developer! I'm sure my questions wouldn't be so ignorant & tedious ha!
Thanks by the way!
Different phones have different files to make certain hardware run. So a ril file that works on a rezound probably wouldn't work because the internals are all different. Our WiFi and BT chips have no source released for them and data is a *****.
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I meant taking a known/working file(s) from a stock Amaze ROM & using it in a custom Rezound ROM. Anyway, I know it can't be that simple haha.
But hey, Peter, thanks for taking the time.
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I meant taking a known/working file(s) from a stock Amaze ROM & using it in a custom Rezound ROM. Anyway, I know it can't be that simple haha.
But hey, Peter, thanks for taking the time.
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Yeah not that simple. Anytime.
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I was doing a little bit of surfing and noticed that cyanogen has made a cyanogen 9 version for the galaxy 2 and the nexus s... And I was wondering if it was possible to get this on our phones...
This should be in the general section...
Anyways one day it will
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Agree is should go in general. Cyanogen said that it wouldn't be until maybe January for an alpha of CM9.
As for asking for your specific phone, give it time... it hasn't even been a month since ICS source was released.
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Right. Moving to General.
jbizz said:
Agree is should go in general. Cyanogen said that it wouldn't be until maybe January for an alpha of CM9.
As for asking for your specific phone, give it time... it hasn't even been a month since ICS source was released.
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In the meantime, CM7.1 would be nice - but will they just skip over 7.1 for new devices and focus on 9?
Just as a heads up, Max Krivonos posted that he stopped working on CM7 for the amaze and is going straight to CM9,
Double edged sword. Great for CM9 but no CM at all for a few months.
Yea I really miss CM. Wish it would get here asap.
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I've thought alot about selling this phone due to the lack of having a huge community support (face it, it's no Sensation, Desire Z/HD, Evo, etc)... The hardware is good, the replacement? Obviously a Galaxy Nexus, if there is a solid CM9 port for this device, I would probably just save myself the trouble and keep using this, This has everything that the international GNex would have, except for the huge high res amoled screen. Please Koush/Max!!!! (I would think quite a bit could be borrowed from the Pyramid builds, with the obvious exception of the NFC/camera)
Uh... How long has the phone been out?? Let's face that first before complaining about the lack of development... It'd be nice if there was but its not going to happen over night...
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I've thought alot about selling this phone due to the lack of having a huge community support (face it, it's no Sensation, Desire Z/HD, Evo, etc)... The hardware is good, the replacement? Obviously a Galaxy Nexus, if there is a solid CM9 port for this device, I would probably just save myself the trouble and keep using this, This has everything that the international GNex would have, except for the huge high res amoled screen. Please Koush/Max!!!! (I would think quite a bit could be borrowed from the Pyramid builds, with the obvious exception of the NFC/camera)
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Be patient my friend! I think the reason behind (kinda) lacking developtment for this phone is because there will be an ICS came out soon for it in early 2012 and most Devs are waiting for the official Amaze ICS release rather than wasting their time to built rom that would only last for less than two months
On that perspective I am really thankful for Xboarder for his effort to brought us something to satisfied our addictiveness of flashing meanwhile
I am more thankful to Max Krivonos, and Keyan Mobli (Scepterr/kmobs), Max is probably gonna be the maintainer for the Amaze for CM9 and is currently the maintainer for the MT4GS, kmobs is the maintainer of the Sensation for CM9 and has it to a point where he's said "So I'm now using ICS as my daily driver"... There is hope, but if you're looking for CM7/9 or any REAL AOSP build, don't expect xboarder to deliver that, I don't think he compiles anything, he's a themer/kanger/(insert less offensive term here). There is hope, but I'm dying to see some actual AOSP builds, GB or ICS.
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I am more thankful to Max Krivonos, and Keyan Mobli (Scepterr/kmobs), Max is probably gonna be the maintainer for the Amaze for CM9 and is currently the maintainer for the MT4GS, kmobs is the maintainer of the Sensation for CM9 and has it to a point where he's said "So I'm now using ICS as my daily driver"... There is hope, but if you're looking for CM7/9 or any REAL AOSP build, don't expect xboarder to deliver that, I don't think he compiles anything, he's a themer/kanger/(insert less offensive term here). There is hope, but I'm dying to see some actual AOSP builds, GB or ICS.
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Well, I'm by no mean a tech guy or whatsoever in that manner. All I can do is follows instruction to flashing Rom and stuff so when it come to judging who done what I have no idea eventhough I'm very much understanding what kang is ...
Perhaps when Max and whoever on CyanogenMod team came over and gave us some ICS or CM9 goodness, 'til then, the very few peoples who get this Amaze forum go on as it is and gave us something to played with is Xboarder56, Mike1986 and NRGZ28 .... and for that I am appreciates their times and effort putting into it
Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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Just trying to keep options out there during our "slow" (see:new) period. Development takes time--Hell, I'm stuck on a macbook until I can save up for a notebook. Once I get that, I'll be able to do real theming/modding. UOT framework feels like a cop-out right now, but it is all that is being offered and we need the activity to draw more people. I have a to-do list of mods I want to do, but until I get my hardware back, it isn't happening.
Ultimately, it is patience. This phone is very new--ICS is around the corner.
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Well, I'm by no mean a tech guy or whatsoever in that manner. All I can do is follows instruction to flashing Rom and stuff so when it come to judging who done what I have no idea eventhough I'm very much understanding what kang is ...
Perhaps when Max and whoever on CyanogenMod team came over and gave us some ICS or CM9 goodness, 'til then, the very few peoples who get this Amaze forum go on as it is and gave us something to played with is Xboarder56, Mike1986 and NRGZ28 .... and for that I am appreciates their times and effort putting into it
Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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+1.
There is still very much a lot of effort being put in here.
I also am thankful to everyone helping out during our slow period. Although I can't wait for some true aosp action. I absolutely hate sense. It's pretty, but I just prefer aosp
wow man way to talk behind my back look at this:
https://github.com/Xboarder56/android_device_htc_ruby
wasnt gonna release yet but im working on cm7/cm9 compile so dont talk **** when you dont know.
PS: who fixed the recovery problem, me
PS: you compile just a basic recovery, hell port sense 3.5 with working data then talk
pss: just for prove recovery i compile 5.0.2.7 still working on fixing charging bug in this one but you make one of those without cm7 team and then you talk **** man i put hours into working on this **** for you just say that it makes me want to quite becuase you dont understand
http://www.multiupload.com/6ZLPJLUZ1S (5.0.2.7 recovery) happy now
Please refrain from argueing in thread's , take it to a PM . xBoarder doe's all of the work for us so don't even .
oh xboarder just schooled him. but back on topic i wish i could help xboarder but i know nothing about making roms and such.
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oh xboarder just schooled him. but back on topic i wish i could help xboarder but i know nothing about making roms and such.
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its not easy building a device tree but i did build one i still got to find all the libs to get it to compile right but thats the device tree it will compile cm7 just doenst boot all the way right now but it does compile working recoverys
hi guys i got a replacement phone for my broken evo 4g and I'm getting the evo 3d tomorrow. i usually dislike when people do this but now i understand sometimes its nice to be given direction when u really don't know the development somewhere. what are the recommended or most used roms for the 3D. maybe a few sense and a few aosp rom names. i am very curious as to what the top dogs of the evo 3D are!
Sense roms:
Viper's redline (best imo)
Myn's warm 2.3
Virus' eternity
Aosp:
MIUI
Ics from joelz or decks
Kernel:
Chad's
Tiamat
Ziggy
Hope this helps
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hi guys i got a replacement phone for my broken evo 4g and I'm getting the evo 3d tomorrow. i usually dislike when people do this but now i understand sometimes its nice to be given direction when u really don't know the development somewhere. what are the recommended or most used roms for the 3D. maybe a few sense and a few aosp rom names. i am very curious as to what the top dogs of the evo 3D are!
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In addition to the list provided above, some rough methods of being able to gauge popularity/quality are by looking at view/post count on a thread.
Also, skim read through some of the posts in the thread looking for either issues or praise and the quality of the content.
Without being able to read source code, developers who post links to their source should generally be more reliable. Links will usually go to a git/svn/google code/github site for source.
If you're really curious, open up a developers user information section and look at their last 10 posts, and/or last 10 threads they started and that will start to paint a picture of how they spend their time participating in the forum.
I probably take more caution than most before I load software somebody has modified on my device. The above are all great general tips to help anybody who is "new" to a device start to familiarize themselves with the current development scene.
I was very happy to move from the EVO 4G to the EVO 3D. Good luck!
I'm in the same boat, my 3d should be waiting for me when I get home. I've been reading a lot about rooting it this morning, seems a little more involved than the 4g but doable. Then to pick a rom....so many choices, lol
We're comin from a pure power source.
I was just like you guys a few weeks ago, coming from a Evo 4G to a Evo 3D. Hope that you get a 3D without HBOOT 1.5, it's a bit harder to install ROMS and kernels on than you're used to, and you have to void you're warranty and unlock with HTC. Rooting with any other HBOOT is like rooting the Evo 4G, though.
Other than that, there's a lot of similarities between rooting the devices, but I love the Evo 3d a million times more and don't even miss the kickstand.
my $.02 and most is based on you being a seasoned flasher with the 4G.
Pros:
-Much faster and smoother ride overall
-Native 3.0 so you will finally see AND ENJOY all the bells and whistles
-A lot of the really solid 4G devs are either here now exclusive or also doing 3D so you will see some familiar faces
-Really can't go wrong with any rom you chose as they are all very solid in their own rights less the posted quirks that are just to be expected
Cons: (depending on stance)
-Still an EVO so it's not like you get the full "hey I got a new phone!" feeling
-Dev is still in it's infancy stage so not as up to speed as 4G
-HBOOT 1.5 isn't the toughest thing to bypass but does add a few steps to flashing so if you were a flash-a-holic as I was you will definitely slowwww down
-ICS is starting to come along but definitely slower than most phones
Overall you will enjoy the move. 3D you will get over probably about 5 minutes after you turn it on but it's still an Evo so the phone is a beast. The community itself is a little slow but the people here especially the devs are tops in helping out.
Currently I am running OLYPUS ODEX HD V2 and love it. I went from Vipers Redline which I personally experienced a little more solid running but not enough for me to lose the extra features OLYMPUS has.
Well I got lucky I think. The 3d I got has hboot 1.4!
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Very Nice! i would stick with a sense 3.0 rom
ive been useing fresh just for the simple fact of stability not much tweaks done
unlike the evo 4g there isnt much of any feature complete aosp roms unless you like miui style
wow thanks a lot to all of you for the replies. i honestly didn't expect much. i feel very welcome here as a new 3D user. i just opened it and i love it! can't wait to root it and try these out. thanks again to all you i really appreciate it.
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Well I got lucky I think. The 3d I got has hboot 1.4!
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YESS!! mine has 1.4 as well! super stoked. bout to root this puppy. this phone is faster by a lot.
Yea this phone is uber nice, rooted with revolutionary no prob, sweeter
We're comin from a pure power source.
Just a curious question.
I'm far from experienced in how ROM development works, the process, etc.
So if it's an obvious question, I apologize.
What does it take to port some of the Sensation ROMs over to the Rezound?
Such as Android Revolution HD, Virtuous Inquisition, etc. some of which are AOSP.
Is it just the phone has been out longer, or just different phones, different developers, the fact we have LTE instead of GSM/HSPA/etc. or a combination of all?
Not trying to sound impatient at all, I'm quite content with current pickings, I'm just waiting for the day the Rezound is like the Incredible and the Thunderbolt where it's a ROM party basically.
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Just a curious question.
I'm far from experienced in how ROM development works, the process, etc.
So if it's an obvious question, I apologize.
What does it take to port some of the Sensation ROMs over to the Rezound?
Such as Android Revolution HD, Virtuous Inquisition, etc. some of which are AOSP.
Is it just the phone has been out longer, or just different phones, different developers, the fact we have LTE instead of GSM/HSPA/etc. or a combination of all?
Not trying to sound impatient at all, I'm quite content with current pickings, I'm just waiting for the day the Rezound is like the Incredible and the Thunderbolt where it's a ROM party basically.
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Well I am far from experienced when it comes to ROM development as well, but I know that it is verrrryy difficult to port a ROM from one device to another, especially when one phone uses GSM radios and the other LTE. Plus, the images for the ROM would look rather bad because of the resolutions of the screens being different. As far as I know, I'm pretty sure it's near impossible to port a ROM.
Hope I helped!
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Well I know people port all the time and I'm thinking it wouldn't be such a farfetched idea to see Evo3D or Sensation ROMs over here, I was just wondering is all.
Aren't they essentially the same phone, only one is GSM and one is LTE?
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well most of those wouldnt be THAT bad to port but we need a working AOSP kernel for all of the AOSP ones. also there is really no sense in "porting" them it would make more sense to just apply their features to a custom rom and give the original dev credit
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Aren't they essentially the same phone, only one is GSM and one is LTE?
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The Sensation is a bit different I believe but same general idea.
The 3D has the same specs inside as the Rezound, but beyond that, not sure.
Would it be possible to run a Sensation 4G rom on the Amaze 4G? They carry very similar specifications, I personally wouldn't want to try flashing a rom from that phone to mine because of possible issues or a brick but my question carries on. Can anyone help?
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Would it be possible to run a Sensation 4G rom on the Amaze 4G? They carry very similar specifications, I personally wouldn't want to try flashing a rom from that phone to mine because of possible issues or a brick but my question carries on. Can anyone help?
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No you can't completely different phones, hardware, kernel, etc. you can never flash a rom from one phone to another every phone is different. The rom has to be ported first meaning modified and changed so it can work with another phone...despite what many think the sensation and amaze are very very different phones...the HTC vivid is the closest you will get to the amaze. even then roms have to be individually made or ported for each phone.
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Would it be possible to run a Sensation 4G rom on the Amaze 4G? They carry very similar specifications, I personally wouldn't want to try flashing a rom from that phone to mine because of possible issues or a brick but my question carries on. Can anyone help?
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[sarcasm] OH MY GOD! I haven't thought of that! That opens up soooo many new roms and sooo much room for development now!
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Seriously though, seansk is right. Even the ports don't work properly because they are so different. Everyone that keeps thinking that the Sensation and the Amaze are the same or even similar are only fooling themselves. They are totally different.
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[sarcasm] OH MY GOD! I haven't thought of that! That opens up soooo many new roms and sooo much room for development now!
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Seriously though, seansk is right. Even the ports don't work properly because they are so different. Everyone that keeps thinking that the Sensation and the Amaze are the same or even similar are only fooling themselves. They are totally different.
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Is there any other phone like the amaze at all where the devs May be able to be drawn over to port...? Sorry if is a dumb question. I like the devs we have, just not much variety since no s=off or ics code
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I'm sorry, I know it was a really dumb question, I'm coming from a Sensation 4G which had quite a lot of development. I'm not a developer myself and was just wondering.
i am coming from a sensation 4g, and trust me thats what i miss about that phone its that it have over 40 roms, the reason is that the sensation is a world wide cell phone and it carries s-off witch is not difficult to make a rom for all sensations,
now i have a g2x too, even thought the that g2x and the optimus 2x looks the same, actually are very different, the devs from the g2x could not ever ported a optimus 2x rom on the g2x, because of that and no kernels drivers. So the g2x never had a custom rom with lg ui on it,
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i am coming from a sensation 4g, and trust me thats what i miss about that phone its that it have over 40 roms, the reason is that the sensation is a world wide cell phone and it carries s-off witch is not difficult to make a rom for all sensations,
now i have a g2x too, even thought the that g2x and the optimus 2x looks the same, actually are very different, the devs from the g2x could not ever ported a optimus 2x rom on the g2x, because of that and no kernels drivers. So the g2x never had a custom rom with lg ui on it,
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Which is pretty much the same situation as the Amaze.
We can't make custom kernels even though we have the source (lack of wifi drivers). Lack of s-off so we can't flash those kernels by recovery. It's not a worldwide phone either. Plus a lot of people that have the Sensation are still on a contract agreement so they are less likely to upgrade. I'm sure the next HTC Sense UI device that comes out will have a lot more developers because of that fact alone. We should perhaps warn them that HTC is starting to screw their customers though.
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Which is pretty much the same situation as the Amaze.
We can't make custom kernels even though we have the source (lack of wifi drivers). Lack of s-off so we can't flash those kernels by recovery. It's not a worldwide phone either. Plus a lot of people that have the Sensation are still on a contract agreement so they are less likely to upgrade. I'm sure the next HTC Sense UI device that comes out will have a lot more developers because of that fact alone. We should perhaps warn them that HTC is starting to screw their customers though.
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do you thing this is happening with samsung too or just htc? Im thinking that my next phone will be a samsung phone.
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do you thing this is happening with samsung too or just htc? Im thinking that my next phone will be a samsung phone.
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I have no idea but I'm more than likely going back to Samsung after this one.
To you guys who are saying you miss the development for the sensation: There is about a 5 month date between the sensation and amaze.. in other words the sensation has been cooked on for 5 more months than the amaze thats a long time for development if you think about it.. just be patient guys, we just got a stable version of sense 3.5 and we already have a ICS build.. its not stable but that doesnt mean it wont ever be.
I'm just waiting for that ICS leak/port. Then the development will boom, it happened to the Sensation 4G during Christmas time. It was a very exciting time!
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I'm just waiting for that ICS leak/port. Then the development will boom, it happened to the Sensation 4G during Christmas time. It was a very exciting time!
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Smh
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So I get one of these bad boys in the mail tomorrow and plan on activating it asap.
Where do I start? (I'm well experienced on the HTC incredible so I'm not a total noob)
1. Is there currently a preferred root method?
2. Is s-off necessary right now?
3. What is a solid starter ROM to get a feel for root with this phone?
4. Kernel's as well
5. Finally, I am happy to see a lot of familiar devs trolling these forums.
Just bought one of these for the gf and am reading reading reading due to her phone having excessive battery drain. I would ask you to check the firmware first just to see if its GB or ICS. If it's GB, then you might wanna wait on upgrading the firmware until things get sorted out, since some of us are having battery life and heating issues on ICS.
But to answer your query:
1. The NilsP stickied thread has all the info on preferred root method depending on if the phone is ICS or GB.
2. While S-Off isn't 100% necessary since a lot of the roms havent been recooked to flash all-in-one, why wouldn't you? You'd be able to switch firmware easier and it's kinda fun to do the wire trick.
3. I think CleanROM DE and RezROM are good starters, but that's subjective. Just give em a look. My chick likes RezROM and she cares not a bit about flashing.
4. There's a few kernels out there for the trying (Ziggy and Incredikernel, + a few), but with S-Off just recently being achieved, you won't see a lot at this moment.
5. Which are they? I came from the DZ/G2, then TMo Galaxy SII, and now Sensation.
Good luck, because your gain may be mine, too.
since its brand new i would used the s-off method... since it wipes your sd card anyways
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5. Which are they? I came from the DZ/G2, then TMo Galaxy SII, and now Sensation.
Good luck, because your gain may be mine, too.
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Guys like Chingy, |||bored|||, JoelZ, Newtoroot, NilsP, a few others.
a lot of these guys did a lot of the deving that was done for the incredible. That forum split in two between the rezound and the gnex but I'm glad I'll be jumping on a phone that seems to have a vested dev community.
Since I lack the skills to create stuff I just play and recommend things.
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Guys like Chingy, |||bored|||, JoelZ, Newtoroot, NilsP, a few others.
a lot of these guys did a lot of the deving that was done for the incredible. That forum split in two between the rezound and the gnex but I'm glad I'll be jumping on a phone that seems to have a vested dev community.
Since I lack the skills to create stuff I just play and recommend things.
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I here you, dude. I'm the same way.
As for the devs, I'm glad their reputation precedes them. I've seen the last 3 names around a lot.
Just wanted to give some good mention to bored on his Rezrom. On mine it has the best battery life that I could ever find. Even good enough that o haven't used my extended battery for a couple weeks now.
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Just wanted to give some good mention to bored on his Rezrom. On mine it has the best battery life that I could ever find. Even good enough that o haven't used my extended battery for a couple weeks now.
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All the devs on xda rezound have some nice roms, but yes I find myself coming back to Bored's Rezroms as well.