Would it be possible to run a Sensation 4G rom on the Amaze 4G? They carry very similar specifications, I personally wouldn't want to try flashing a rom from that phone to mine because of possible issues or a brick but my question carries on. Can anyone help?
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Would it be possible to run a Sensation 4G rom on the Amaze 4G? They carry very similar specifications, I personally wouldn't want to try flashing a rom from that phone to mine because of possible issues or a brick but my question carries on. Can anyone help?
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No you can't completely different phones, hardware, kernel, etc. you can never flash a rom from one phone to another every phone is different. The rom has to be ported first meaning modified and changed so it can work with another phone...despite what many think the sensation and amaze are very very different phones...the HTC vivid is the closest you will get to the amaze. even then roms have to be individually made or ported for each phone.
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Would it be possible to run a Sensation 4G rom on the Amaze 4G? They carry very similar specifications, I personally wouldn't want to try flashing a rom from that phone to mine because of possible issues or a brick but my question carries on. Can anyone help?
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[sarcasm] OH MY GOD! I haven't thought of that! That opens up soooo many new roms and sooo much room for development now!
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Seriously though, seansk is right. Even the ports don't work properly because they are so different. Everyone that keeps thinking that the Sensation and the Amaze are the same or even similar are only fooling themselves. They are totally different.
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[sarcasm] OH MY GOD! I haven't thought of that! That opens up soooo many new roms and sooo much room for development now!
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Seriously though, seansk is right. Even the ports don't work properly because they are so different. Everyone that keeps thinking that the Sensation and the Amaze are the same or even similar are only fooling themselves. They are totally different.
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Is there any other phone like the amaze at all where the devs May be able to be drawn over to port...? Sorry if is a dumb question. I like the devs we have, just not much variety since no s=off or ics code
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I'm sorry, I know it was a really dumb question, I'm coming from a Sensation 4G which had quite a lot of development. I'm not a developer myself and was just wondering.
i am coming from a sensation 4g, and trust me thats what i miss about that phone its that it have over 40 roms, the reason is that the sensation is a world wide cell phone and it carries s-off witch is not difficult to make a rom for all sensations,
now i have a g2x too, even thought the that g2x and the optimus 2x looks the same, actually are very different, the devs from the g2x could not ever ported a optimus 2x rom on the g2x, because of that and no kernels drivers. So the g2x never had a custom rom with lg ui on it,
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i am coming from a sensation 4g, and trust me thats what i miss about that phone its that it have over 40 roms, the reason is that the sensation is a world wide cell phone and it carries s-off witch is not difficult to make a rom for all sensations,
now i have a g2x too, even thought the that g2x and the optimus 2x looks the same, actually are very different, the devs from the g2x could not ever ported a optimus 2x rom on the g2x, because of that and no kernels drivers. So the g2x never had a custom rom with lg ui on it,
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Which is pretty much the same situation as the Amaze.
We can't make custom kernels even though we have the source (lack of wifi drivers). Lack of s-off so we can't flash those kernels by recovery. It's not a worldwide phone either. Plus a lot of people that have the Sensation are still on a contract agreement so they are less likely to upgrade. I'm sure the next HTC Sense UI device that comes out will have a lot more developers because of that fact alone. We should perhaps warn them that HTC is starting to screw their customers though.
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Which is pretty much the same situation as the Amaze.
We can't make custom kernels even though we have the source (lack of wifi drivers). Lack of s-off so we can't flash those kernels by recovery. It's not a worldwide phone either. Plus a lot of people that have the Sensation are still on a contract agreement so they are less likely to upgrade. I'm sure the next HTC Sense UI device that comes out will have a lot more developers because of that fact alone. We should perhaps warn them that HTC is starting to screw their customers though.
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do you thing this is happening with samsung too or just htc? Im thinking that my next phone will be a samsung phone.
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do you thing this is happening with samsung too or just htc? Im thinking that my next phone will be a samsung phone.
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I have no idea but I'm more than likely going back to Samsung after this one.
To you guys who are saying you miss the development for the sensation: There is about a 5 month date between the sensation and amaze.. in other words the sensation has been cooked on for 5 more months than the amaze thats a long time for development if you think about it.. just be patient guys, we just got a stable version of sense 3.5 and we already have a ICS build.. its not stable but that doesnt mean it wont ever be.
I'm just waiting for that ICS leak/port. Then the development will boom, it happened to the Sensation 4G during Christmas time. It was a very exciting time!
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I'm just waiting for that ICS leak/port. Then the development will boom, it happened to the Sensation 4G during Christmas time. It was a very exciting time!
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Smh
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I have noticed that the HTC sensation is really similar to the HTC amaze. I mean you can swap batteries or whatever i think. Would Roms for the Sensation work on the Amaze?
I'm interested in this as well.
I just bought this phone as an upgrade from my T-Mobile G2/Desire Z and am SO disappointed in the lack of development going on! I know HTC hasn't exactly made it easy, but the DZ forum is hopping! I miss it.
How hard would it be to port some of the Sensation ROMs over to the Amaze? I'd like to learn how to if anyone wants to help me ...
I just realized this is in the wrong area Mod Please move to Amaze General if you can.
The battery will swap out. Thats about it.
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most of the hardware is completely different, so while a lot of things may be able to be borrowed from a Sena ROM, the things that matter most would be completely different.
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I just realized this is in the wrong area Mod Please move to Amaze General if you can.
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most of the hardware is completely different, so while a lot of things may be able to be borrowed from a Sena ROM, the things that matter most would be completely different.
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So if we just swap out the hw drivers that are in the Sensation ROMs to match the Amaze hw stuff .. obviously its not that simple I know .. theoretically it would work, correct?
Just a curious question.
I'm far from experienced in how ROM development works, the process, etc.
So if it's an obvious question, I apologize.
What does it take to port some of the Sensation ROMs over to the Rezound?
Such as Android Revolution HD, Virtuous Inquisition, etc. some of which are AOSP.
Is it just the phone has been out longer, or just different phones, different developers, the fact we have LTE instead of GSM/HSPA/etc. or a combination of all?
Not trying to sound impatient at all, I'm quite content with current pickings, I'm just waiting for the day the Rezound is like the Incredible and the Thunderbolt where it's a ROM party basically.
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Just a curious question.
I'm far from experienced in how ROM development works, the process, etc.
So if it's an obvious question, I apologize.
What does it take to port some of the Sensation ROMs over to the Rezound?
Such as Android Revolution HD, Virtuous Inquisition, etc. some of which are AOSP.
Is it just the phone has been out longer, or just different phones, different developers, the fact we have LTE instead of GSM/HSPA/etc. or a combination of all?
Not trying to sound impatient at all, I'm quite content with current pickings, I'm just waiting for the day the Rezound is like the Incredible and the Thunderbolt where it's a ROM party basically.
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Well I am far from experienced when it comes to ROM development as well, but I know that it is verrrryy difficult to port a ROM from one device to another, especially when one phone uses GSM radios and the other LTE. Plus, the images for the ROM would look rather bad because of the resolutions of the screens being different. As far as I know, I'm pretty sure it's near impossible to port a ROM.
Hope I helped!
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Well I know people port all the time and I'm thinking it wouldn't be such a farfetched idea to see Evo3D or Sensation ROMs over here, I was just wondering is all.
Aren't they essentially the same phone, only one is GSM and one is LTE?
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well most of those wouldnt be THAT bad to port but we need a working AOSP kernel for all of the AOSP ones. also there is really no sense in "porting" them it would make more sense to just apply their features to a custom rom and give the original dev credit
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Aren't they essentially the same phone, only one is GSM and one is LTE?
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The Sensation is a bit different I believe but same general idea.
The 3D has the same specs inside as the Rezound, but beyond that, not sure.
i been seeing a lot of post that the closes phone to port roms to the amaze is from the vivid, even i seen where the vivid got a ics update and some people says that good for the amaze.
my question is why the vivid? where i see the vivid and the amaze got nothing in common on specks,
and if its the vivid why not other htc phones!
just wondering
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i been seeing a lot of post that the closes phone to port roms to the amaze is from the vivid, even i seen where the vivid got a ics update and some people says that good for the amaze.
my question is why the vivid? where i see the vivid and the amaze got nothing in common on specks,
and if its the vivid why not other htc phones!
just wondering
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i think you misunderstood, since the vivid is a phone thats not very popular, it getting ICS from HTC means that we could get ICS soon from HTC as well, as for porting Roms, i havnt seen anyone talking about that but it will be easier to port roms from phones like the sensation, thats from the same carrier
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i been seeing a lot of post that the closes phone to port roms to the amaze is from the vivid, even i seen where the vivid got a ics update and some people says that good for the amaze.
my question is why the vivid? where i see the vivid and the amaze got nothing in common on specks,
and if its the vivid why not other htc phones!
just wondering
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the only thing the amaze adds from the vivid is screen bleed, dedicated camera buttons, smaller screen, nfc. those are the only differences I think.
to your question. the update is not only pushed by htc, its also pushed by carriers. so even if htc is ready to release it (im sure they are) that doesn't mean tmo or att is. they all add their stupid bloatware and test it then push it out and what not
edit: tmo is more secretive than att about updates. so we could be just as close or not too far from them. you never know, I wouldn't assume anything
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i think you misunderstood, since the vivid is a phone thats not very popular, it getting ICS from HTC means that we could get ICS soon from HTC as well, as for porting Roms, i havnt seen anyone talking about that but it will be easier to port roms from phones like the sensation, thats from the same carrier
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thats what i always thought that it would be easier to port rom from the sensation than what it is from the vivid,
but i seen some older post were people are talking about it, that it is the closes phone to the amaze to port roms,
like i dont know about about porting roms or dev them, i just decided to asked this question
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the only thing the amaze adds from the vivid is screen bleed, dedicated camera buttons, smaller screen, nfc. those are the only differences I think.
to your question. the update is not only pushed by htc, its also pushed by carriers. so even if htc is ready to release it (im sure they are) that doesn't mean tmo or att is. they all add their stupid bloatware and test it then push it out and what not
edit: tmo is more secretive than att about updates. so we could be just as close or not too far from them. you never know, I wouldn't assume anything
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oh yeah, the carrier have to push the update,
ok so is there away like, when i got my g2x, you could either update the phone to gb with lg updates on pc or the ota,
htc sync would do that right?
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oh yeah, the carrier have to push the update,
ok so is there away like, when i got my g2x, you could either update the phone to gb with lg updates on pc or the ota,
htc sync would do that right?
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im pretty sure theres an option to do it that way as well
I have some pretty good news for you Evo 3D users i dug in and coded in wimax for my sense 4.1 rom i built for you guys... im sending it to testers tomorrow, since i dont get good wimax service in my area i couldnt get it to fully connect, but once the testers confirm it works correctly ill finish up the rom and you guys can enjoy it
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I have some pretty good news for you Evo 3D users i dug in and coded in wimax for my sense 4.1 rom i built for you guys... im sending it to testers tomorrow, since i dont get good wimax service in my area i couldnt get it to fully connect, but once the testers confirm it works correctly ill finish up the rom and you guys can enjoy it
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Awesome work. Thanks. Good luck to the testers! I hope it goes well.
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holy....
i was just thinking the other day "meh, looks like sense 4.1 will never get wimax" i stand corrected
good to see you around here again
Thank you! I tried using a Sense 4.0 rom and I loved it but the only problem was no 4G so I had to go back to 3.6. I knew about the lack of 3D and that was ok with me, but WiMAX sometimes is the only way I can get decent data so it will be nice to get go back to Sense 4.0. Unfortunately I don't think 3D has much of a chance, but that would just perfect the phone, why HTC decided to go with Sense 3.6 over the much better Sense 4.0 is beyond me...
Newt! U R Back !!!
This ROM got me interested in this whole thing in the first place...
I'll be waiting with Bells on 4 your update.
Good 2c U back.
Say whaaaaaat? I was just about to leave my sense 4 Rom too. Thanks dude!
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I don't have the 3D anymore but this is still huge news to those who still use one!
This Samsung Galaxy S3 >>>>
His ROM is already the **** now. Going to be even better. Although i don't have 4g
Method1911 3DLTE
When is it going to be released
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Thanks. Lack of 4g in a sense 4.x rom is what's holding me back from using one.
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When is it going to be released
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"Soon" is a relative term and that's all we have at this point.
I'm sure that if the testing was successful this thread would have been updated with that information.
ramjet73
Oh, cool! I tried this ROM when it first came out and really liked it, but since 3g is completely unusable I couldn't use it for more than several hours at a time (mainly while I was at work). I vowed to really make this my daily once it was complete (4g).
I had actually kinda forgotten about it since then.
4g in a sense 4 rom would be awesome.
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Thanks. Lack of 4g in a sense 4.x rom is what's holding me back from using one.
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bah , no 4g in romania , nothing to complain about sense 4 roms except 3d which I actually don't use at all xD but is good to show off xD
Whazzup?
Does anyone know what happened with newtoroot's 4G on Sense 4.1?
Haven't heard anything for quite a while now.
ramjet73
It's a mystery George! (Quote from Phenomenon) The world may never know.
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Does anyone know what happened with newtoroot's 4G on Sense 4.1?
Haven't heard anything for quite a while now.
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I'm going to propose a controversial theory. Let me preface it by saying I believe newtoroot to be an excelent if not the best actual developer on our device. He brought Sense 4.0 before anyone and it was nearly flawless on the first drop. That being said, I think one of two things:
1. Newtoroot was playing us. (I doubt it, but someone suggested this and anything is possible.)
2. Newtoroot had high hopes, but it was more difficult than anticipated and is either taking longer or has been given up on.
Those being said. In his thread elsewhere he has stated that he is out of work and trying to find some. As well as dealing with the things that being out of work bring. So lots of personal stuff may indeed have gotten in the way.
I would say that if it were possible, or at least easier, one of the several other developers working on Sense 4.0+ roms would have attempted of done it already. I don't personally use WiMax often so it is not a big deal. I do appreactiate all the devs that work on our device. I usually swap phones every few months, but have kept my EVO 3D since the day it came out. Next summer when my 2 years is up I will upgrade to something with LTE hopefully, but till then I can still feed my flashing adiction and gets lots of performance out of this still powerful phone.
I do think it's a tough nut to crack. My theory is that's why we have Sense 3.6 and not Sense 4 - even HTC had trouble getting WiMAX and 3d working on 4 (or didn't want to put the resources behind it since both are relatively dead, at least for now).
It would have been nice to have 4G on it, although I don't even get 4G in my area..
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Does anyone know what happened with newtoroot's 4G on Sense 4.1?
Haven't heard anything for quite a while now.
ramjet73
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The last I saw, that thread got locked for some reason.
No offense to OMJ. I am just suprised we have no other ROMS for this phone.
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No offense to OMJ. I am just suprised we have no other ROMS for this phone.
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there's ViperOne, LeeDroid, and Insertcoin.
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there's ViperOne, LeeDroid, and Insertcoin.
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For the Sprint version?
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For the Sprint version?
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yep, right now the only one that supports sprint yet is ViperONE, because of the resent firmware update, we haven't got yet, but the first ones they put out prior to the update have sprint support, go to international thread and read up on it.
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yep, right now the only one that supports sprint yet is ViperONE, because of the resent firmware update, we haven't got yet, but the first ones they put out prior to the update have sprint support, go to international thread and read up on it.
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LeeDROID v7.6.0 also supports sprint.
Why aren't these roms present in the Sprint section I wonder? Seems odd as nobody would think to check the international forums.
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Why aren't these roms present in the Sprint section I wonder? Seems odd as nobody would think to check the international forums.
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easier for the devs to monitor one thread than a bunch.
Well they can do what Viper did and create a small thread with links then lock it
I blame htc lol
these forums are dead because of 2 reasons:
1) the M9 was not much of a upgrade from the M8
2) overheating issues
HTC took it on the chin w/ this one...
OMJ said:
these forums are dead because of 2 reasons:
1) the M9 was not much of a upgrade from the M8
2) overheating issues
HTC took it on the chin w/ this one...
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yup...I think a lot of people didn't see the M9 as a real upgrade to the M8 and only for those who didn't jump from M7 to M8 combined with the horrible press about the overheating (I've yet to experience) and camera (love the camera updates for what I use it for) and whining about it not being 4k (seriously, who needs that on a phone?) means it's not been a very popular device.
Screw 'em...I think it's a huge upgrade from the M7, especially the camera (even in it's original iteration).
Many thanks to @OMJ @benny3 and @chas123 for supporting this device.
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these forums are dead because of 2 reasons:
1) the M9 was not much of a upgrade from the M8
2) overheating issues
HTC took it on the chin w/ this one...
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This maybe true but another thing to point out is that this phone is so complete that there is hardly anything left to mod or add. I'm mean the only thing left for you to add to the phone is to add the 5.1 update to your ROM. Other then that your ROM is so complete its been on REV 24 for over a month with nothing else to add or tweak. Of course there is the point you already made that this phone being so close to the M8 that your ROM was already matured through the M8 days.
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This maybe true but another thing to point out is that this phone is so complete that there is hardly anything left to mod or add. I'm mean the only thing left for you to add to the phone is to add the 5.1 update to your ROM. Other then that your ROM is so complete its been on REV 24 for over a month with nothing else to add or tweak. Of course there is the point you already made that this phone being so close to the M8 that your ROM was already matured through the M8 days.
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I could agree, but I'm still looking for a CM/AOSP flavor to rock on mine... And not to mention before the latest updates, we could still flash all those feature loaded ROMs. But lately, I'm hesitant to flash anything other than BadBoyz.
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barleysoda said:
This maybe true but another thing to point out is that this phone is so complete that there is hardly anything left to mod or add. I'm mean the only thing left for you to add to the phone is to add the 5.1 update to your ROM. Other then that your ROM is so complete its been on REV 24 for over a month with nothing else to add or tweak. Of course there is the point you already made that this phone being so close to the M8 that your ROM was already matured through the M8 days.
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This is especially true when it comes to theming. You pretty much can theme it the way you want very easy. Im not a big themer or theme design, this latest Android 5.1 is very difficult to theme. Since its still new quite a bunch of apks are not compiling correctly and im not that skilled yet or have the time lately to figure out why, LOL. Other then the Viper Theming threads not much Theming has been going on throughout all HTC M9 versions.
You are better running badboyz for sprint, our firmware is extremely sensitive and with so many international versions using their base, our lte issues arrise of we aren't using a rom that supports our phone properly.
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You are better running badboyz for sprint, our firmware is extremely sensitive and with so many international versions using their base, our lte issues arrise of we aren't using a rom that supports our phone properly.
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Traded my flex2 for a HTC One m9, rooted it, unlocked it, and then I installed badboyz the very first day. Love it. I'm so used to having cm/aosp on all my devices and I customize the crap out of them but I have to say that I have hardly seen any lag or performance issues on this phone. The phone gets pretty warm when doing heavy tasks like playing a game and what not but I don't find it any different then other devices doing the same tasks.
Either way, I love the m9. It's a well built solid device. I jumped at the chance to trade haha. Their loss
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I will say this is probably the least active forum I have seen out of all the HTC's I have own which is every flagship for Sprint since the evo 4G (even going back to TP1 & TP2). That being said, OMJ's badboyz is awesome I have been using it since I got the phone. There is also no red text hboot and custom splash screens just like my M8 had. I like this phone, while really not much different from my M8 besides the camera it's not as big of fail as people make it out to be. I'm hoping the M10 is a nice refresh and hopefully HTC is done with trying camera gimmicks. I would like to see higher resolution screen next year & wireless charging.
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I will say this is probably the least active forum I have seen out of all the HTC's I have own which is every flagship for Sprint since the evo 4G (even going back to TP1 & TP2). That being said, OMJ's badboyz is awesome I have been using it since I got the phone. There is also no red text hboot and custom splash screens just like my M8 had. I like this phone, while really not much different from my M8 besides the camera it's not as big of fail as people make it out to be. I'm hoping the M10 is a nice refresh and hopefully HTC is done with trying camera gimmicks. I would like to see higher resolution screen next year & wireless charging.
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The majority goes on in the overall m9 forum and not sprint as I guess devs don't want to check multiple forums.
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I really don't see where development is lacking. As many have said there are quite a few roms in the main m9 forum that offer sprint support. If you look at the cm development device tree sprint support is added. What's missing?
LeeDroid, and Insertcoin drains horrible.......... lol any suggestion?