I have noticed that the HTC sensation is really similar to the HTC amaze. I mean you can swap batteries or whatever i think. Would Roms for the Sensation work on the Amaze?
I'm interested in this as well.
I just bought this phone as an upgrade from my T-Mobile G2/Desire Z and am SO disappointed in the lack of development going on! I know HTC hasn't exactly made it easy, but the DZ forum is hopping! I miss it.
How hard would it be to port some of the Sensation ROMs over to the Amaze? I'd like to learn how to if anyone wants to help me ...
I just realized this is in the wrong area Mod Please move to Amaze General if you can.
The battery will swap out. Thats about it.
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most of the hardware is completely different, so while a lot of things may be able to be borrowed from a Sena ROM, the things that matter most would be completely different.
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I just realized this is in the wrong area Mod Please move to Amaze General if you can.
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mikeschevelle said:
most of the hardware is completely different, so while a lot of things may be able to be borrowed from a Sena ROM, the things that matter most would be completely different.
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So if we just swap out the hw drivers that are in the Sensation ROMs to match the Amaze hw stuff .. obviously its not that simple I know .. theoretically it would work, correct?
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I've been using cm7 on other devices and it's my first choice. I don't want any sense stuff....
I have a gsm EVO3D in UK.
The cdma version has official cm7 support? Has there been a cm7 port for the gsm version?
Sounds like you didn't bother to do any sort of reading in the DEVELOPMENT forum for the GSM version, which would have answered your question. +1 for being lazy.
Ok, I accept the critic, you could give me a +10 for lazy....
Can you maybe enlighten me a little? I presume there's no cm7 coming, maybe waiting on the cm9...?
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Ok, I accept the critic, you could give me a +10 for lazy....
Can you maybe enlighten me a little? I presume there's no cm7 coming, maybe waiting on the cm9...?
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Evidently this is a foreign concept to you, but please READ. Go look in the GSM development section, there is a whole thread on it. Do you expect to be spoon-fed? At least make an effort, especially if I just told you where to find the answer.
OK I found the thread a couple of days ago and being new to HTC EVO3D I was hoping there might be more
In the cm7 thread it's plain
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hardware acceleration
bt avrcp
camera
3d
Thats a rom only for devs to play around with...
Surprising because the cdma version has official cm7 with nightlies and only differs very slightly from the gsm version in terms of hardware... apart from the cdma/gsm network they're completely identical in every way....
I think us GSM users got the short straw. It's a shame there's a fragmented development on thus device which doesn't seem to affect many others.
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iconias said:
OK I found the thread a couple of days ago and being new to HTC EVO3D I was hoping there might be more
In the cm7 thread it's plain
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Left to do:
hardware acceleration
bt avrcp
camera
3d
Thats a rom only for devs to play around with...
Surprising because the cdma version has official cm7 with nightlies and only differs very slightly from the gsm version in terms of hardware... apart from the cdma/gsm network they're completely identical in every way....
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Not completely identical, to port it over requires a fair bit of work, plus c7 has it's work cut out with the 3D camera's, chances are it'll never be perfect. Plus stock ICS is going to be another hard nut to crack.
As for the lazyness, simply type up the top in the search panel EVO 3D c7 and that would be it.
post on their forum if you need to check on progress, but it's quite taboo to ask for an update from a dev, they tend to turn green and smoke comes out of their ears if they hear that type of question and you may be face palmed.
Just a curious question.
I'm far from experienced in how ROM development works, the process, etc.
So if it's an obvious question, I apologize.
What does it take to port some of the Sensation ROMs over to the Rezound?
Such as Android Revolution HD, Virtuous Inquisition, etc. some of which are AOSP.
Is it just the phone has been out longer, or just different phones, different developers, the fact we have LTE instead of GSM/HSPA/etc. or a combination of all?
Not trying to sound impatient at all, I'm quite content with current pickings, I'm just waiting for the day the Rezound is like the Incredible and the Thunderbolt where it's a ROM party basically.
I Am Marino said:
Just a curious question.
I'm far from experienced in how ROM development works, the process, etc.
So if it's an obvious question, I apologize.
What does it take to port some of the Sensation ROMs over to the Rezound?
Such as Android Revolution HD, Virtuous Inquisition, etc. some of which are AOSP.
Is it just the phone has been out longer, or just different phones, different developers, the fact we have LTE instead of GSM/HSPA/etc. or a combination of all?
Not trying to sound impatient at all, I'm quite content with current pickings, I'm just waiting for the day the Rezound is like the Incredible and the Thunderbolt where it's a ROM party basically.
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Well I am far from experienced when it comes to ROM development as well, but I know that it is verrrryy difficult to port a ROM from one device to another, especially when one phone uses GSM radios and the other LTE. Plus, the images for the ROM would look rather bad because of the resolutions of the screens being different. As far as I know, I'm pretty sure it's near impossible to port a ROM.
Hope I helped!
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Well I know people port all the time and I'm thinking it wouldn't be such a farfetched idea to see Evo3D or Sensation ROMs over here, I was just wondering is all.
Aren't they essentially the same phone, only one is GSM and one is LTE?
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well most of those wouldnt be THAT bad to port but we need a working AOSP kernel for all of the AOSP ones. also there is really no sense in "porting" them it would make more sense to just apply their features to a custom rom and give the original dev credit
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Aren't they essentially the same phone, only one is GSM and one is LTE?
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The Sensation is a bit different I believe but same general idea.
The 3D has the same specs inside as the Rezound, but beyond that, not sure.
Would it be possible to run a Sensation 4G rom on the Amaze 4G? They carry very similar specifications, I personally wouldn't want to try flashing a rom from that phone to mine because of possible issues or a brick but my question carries on. Can anyone help?
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Would it be possible to run a Sensation 4G rom on the Amaze 4G? They carry very similar specifications, I personally wouldn't want to try flashing a rom from that phone to mine because of possible issues or a brick but my question carries on. Can anyone help?
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No you can't completely different phones, hardware, kernel, etc. you can never flash a rom from one phone to another every phone is different. The rom has to be ported first meaning modified and changed so it can work with another phone...despite what many think the sensation and amaze are very very different phones...the HTC vivid is the closest you will get to the amaze. even then roms have to be individually made or ported for each phone.
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Would it be possible to run a Sensation 4G rom on the Amaze 4G? They carry very similar specifications, I personally wouldn't want to try flashing a rom from that phone to mine because of possible issues or a brick but my question carries on. Can anyone help?
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[sarcasm] OH MY GOD! I haven't thought of that! That opens up soooo many new roms and sooo much room for development now!
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Seriously though, seansk is right. Even the ports don't work properly because they are so different. Everyone that keeps thinking that the Sensation and the Amaze are the same or even similar are only fooling themselves. They are totally different.
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[sarcasm] OH MY GOD! I haven't thought of that! That opens up soooo many new roms and sooo much room for development now!
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Seriously though, seansk is right. Even the ports don't work properly because they are so different. Everyone that keeps thinking that the Sensation and the Amaze are the same or even similar are only fooling themselves. They are totally different.
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Is there any other phone like the amaze at all where the devs May be able to be drawn over to port...? Sorry if is a dumb question. I like the devs we have, just not much variety since no s=off or ics code
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I'm sorry, I know it was a really dumb question, I'm coming from a Sensation 4G which had quite a lot of development. I'm not a developer myself and was just wondering.
i am coming from a sensation 4g, and trust me thats what i miss about that phone its that it have over 40 roms, the reason is that the sensation is a world wide cell phone and it carries s-off witch is not difficult to make a rom for all sensations,
now i have a g2x too, even thought the that g2x and the optimus 2x looks the same, actually are very different, the devs from the g2x could not ever ported a optimus 2x rom on the g2x, because of that and no kernels drivers. So the g2x never had a custom rom with lg ui on it,
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i am coming from a sensation 4g, and trust me thats what i miss about that phone its that it have over 40 roms, the reason is that the sensation is a world wide cell phone and it carries s-off witch is not difficult to make a rom for all sensations,
now i have a g2x too, even thought the that g2x and the optimus 2x looks the same, actually are very different, the devs from the g2x could not ever ported a optimus 2x rom on the g2x, because of that and no kernels drivers. So the g2x never had a custom rom with lg ui on it,
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Which is pretty much the same situation as the Amaze.
We can't make custom kernels even though we have the source (lack of wifi drivers). Lack of s-off so we can't flash those kernels by recovery. It's not a worldwide phone either. Plus a lot of people that have the Sensation are still on a contract agreement so they are less likely to upgrade. I'm sure the next HTC Sense UI device that comes out will have a lot more developers because of that fact alone. We should perhaps warn them that HTC is starting to screw their customers though.
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Which is pretty much the same situation as the Amaze.
We can't make custom kernels even though we have the source (lack of wifi drivers). Lack of s-off so we can't flash those kernels by recovery. It's not a worldwide phone either. Plus a lot of people that have the Sensation are still on a contract agreement so they are less likely to upgrade. I'm sure the next HTC Sense UI device that comes out will have a lot more developers because of that fact alone. We should perhaps warn them that HTC is starting to screw their customers though.
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do you thing this is happening with samsung too or just htc? Im thinking that my next phone will be a samsung phone.
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do you thing this is happening with samsung too or just htc? Im thinking that my next phone will be a samsung phone.
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I have no idea but I'm more than likely going back to Samsung after this one.
To you guys who are saying you miss the development for the sensation: There is about a 5 month date between the sensation and amaze.. in other words the sensation has been cooked on for 5 more months than the amaze thats a long time for development if you think about it.. just be patient guys, we just got a stable version of sense 3.5 and we already have a ICS build.. its not stable but that doesnt mean it wont ever be.
I'm just waiting for that ICS leak/port. Then the development will boom, it happened to the Sensation 4G during Christmas time. It was a very exciting time!
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I'm just waiting for that ICS leak/port. Then the development will boom, it happened to the Sensation 4G during Christmas time. It was a very exciting time!
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Smh
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i been seeing a lot of post that the closes phone to port roms to the amaze is from the vivid, even i seen where the vivid got a ics update and some people says that good for the amaze.
my question is why the vivid? where i see the vivid and the amaze got nothing in common on specks,
and if its the vivid why not other htc phones!
just wondering
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i been seeing a lot of post that the closes phone to port roms to the amaze is from the vivid, even i seen where the vivid got a ics update and some people says that good for the amaze.
my question is why the vivid? where i see the vivid and the amaze got nothing in common on specks,
and if its the vivid why not other htc phones!
just wondering
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i think you misunderstood, since the vivid is a phone thats not very popular, it getting ICS from HTC means that we could get ICS soon from HTC as well, as for porting Roms, i havnt seen anyone talking about that but it will be easier to port roms from phones like the sensation, thats from the same carrier
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i been seeing a lot of post that the closes phone to port roms to the amaze is from the vivid, even i seen where the vivid got a ics update and some people says that good for the amaze.
my question is why the vivid? where i see the vivid and the amaze got nothing in common on specks,
and if its the vivid why not other htc phones!
just wondering
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the only thing the amaze adds from the vivid is screen bleed, dedicated camera buttons, smaller screen, nfc. those are the only differences I think.
to your question. the update is not only pushed by htc, its also pushed by carriers. so even if htc is ready to release it (im sure they are) that doesn't mean tmo or att is. they all add their stupid bloatware and test it then push it out and what not
edit: tmo is more secretive than att about updates. so we could be just as close or not too far from them. you never know, I wouldn't assume anything
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i think you misunderstood, since the vivid is a phone thats not very popular, it getting ICS from HTC means that we could get ICS soon from HTC as well, as for porting Roms, i havnt seen anyone talking about that but it will be easier to port roms from phones like the sensation, thats from the same carrier
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thats what i always thought that it would be easier to port rom from the sensation than what it is from the vivid,
but i seen some older post were people are talking about it, that it is the closes phone to the amaze to port roms,
like i dont know about about porting roms or dev them, i just decided to asked this question
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the only thing the amaze adds from the vivid is screen bleed, dedicated camera buttons, smaller screen, nfc. those are the only differences I think.
to your question. the update is not only pushed by htc, its also pushed by carriers. so even if htc is ready to release it (im sure they are) that doesn't mean tmo or att is. they all add their stupid bloatware and test it then push it out and what not
edit: tmo is more secretive than att about updates. so we could be just as close or not too far from them. you never know, I wouldn't assume anything
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oh yeah, the carrier have to push the update,
ok so is there away like, when i got my g2x, you could either update the phone to gb with lg updates on pc or the ota,
htc sync would do that right?
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oh yeah, the carrier have to push the update,
ok so is there away like, when i got my g2x, you could either update the phone to gb with lg updates on pc or the ota,
htc sync would do that right?
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im pretty sure theres an option to do it that way as well
Hey guys, I recently upgraded to the Amaze from the venerable HD2 & one of the things that I've noticed (glaringly) is how little development is going on for the Amaze, esp. compared to that old device!
I had briefly tinkered w/ a Rezound while considering switching to Page Plus but settled on a T-Mo monthly plan. Anyway, needless to say, I've been disappointed in the output of new ROMs.
My question is (& by no means am I a developer, just an end-user), it seems there are a lot of similarities between the Rezound & Amaze (besides CDMA & screen resolution). And Rezound development seems to be humming along. Is it possible to do some ROM development from a Rezound base (esp. GSM varieties) to kick start things for the Amaze?
I did some searching but only came upon this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688761&highlight=rezound
Any thoughts?
The biggest problem we have in the amaze community is HTC isn't releasing any source info for WiFi and bluetooth making it hard to troubleshoot kernel related problems. The next thing is we don't have working data on AOSP the great devs we do have figured it's a messed up ril file but there time is full with school and life. Faux is doing the best he can with kernel development and sport and eclipze are rocking out roms.
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I see. Please excuse my noobness but can't we take the necessary & working stock files & use them in custom ROMs, say, from a Rezound? I know I've got to be oversimplifying it!
Gosh I wish I were a developer! I'm sure my questions wouldn't be so ignorant & tedious ha!
Thanks by the way!
Different phones have different files to make certain hardware run. So a ril file that works on a rezound probably wouldn't work because the internals are all different. Our WiFi and BT chips have no source released for them and data is a *****.
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I meant taking a known/working file(s) from a stock Amaze ROM & using it in a custom Rezound ROM. Anyway, I know it can't be that simple haha.
But hey, Peter, thanks for taking the time.
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I meant taking a known/working file(s) from a stock Amaze ROM & using it in a custom Rezound ROM. Anyway, I know it can't be that simple haha.
But hey, Peter, thanks for taking the time.
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Yeah not that simple. Anytime.