Let me preface this with the following (usually stated by the biggest idiot in the room) I am not a total noob when it comes to computer related stuff. I have been building and maintaining networks for better than a decade. Android is a bit new to me but I can follow directions and get things working without fail... usually. Also, Please let me state this is in no way shape or form a bash against the devs. This is an honest to god post looking for others feedback to make sure I am not missing something.
I guess this is a question for others that have run both CM 9 and CM 10. Has anyone noticed a degradation of performance when running CM 10 vs CM 9 from SD on a 16gb NT?
I have tried several versions of CM 10 and all have the same issues. SOD, games don't work, frequent power downs... the usual complaints. I originally skipped CM 9 because hey I wanted the latest and greatest but decided after reading some other threads about stability to give CM 9 0.5.3 a try. Wow what a night and day difference. Everything that didn't work in 10 works perfectly in 9(using the same card and partition layout).
On my CM10 installs I tried reformatting the SD card numerous times (Transcend 8GB/CL4). I tried the last 3 updated versions posted by chrmhoffman(SP?) I've wiped and re-wiped dalvik and cache, though to be honest from the SD version I am not sure if it does anything. I have tried re-downloading the files in the event they were corrupted. I've verified that I properly placed updater-script for the SD install. I have spent hours verifying and re-verifying I didn't miss something. Other than the B&N repartition I have nothing special done to my nook. I haven't even installed a recovery or rooted the stock OS.
So perhaps I'm doing it wrong? Will an internal install make a difference?
I have read many a thread and haven't found anything comparing the 2. If they exist and this has been mentioned please direct me to the appropriate reading material.
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Let me preface this with the following (usually stated by the biggest idiot in the room) I am not a total noob when it comes to computer related stuff. I have been building and maintaining networks for better than a decade. Android is a bit new to me but I can follow directions and get things working without fail... usually. Also, Please let me state this is in no way shape or form a bash against the devs. This is an honest to god post looking for others feedback to make sure I am not missing something.
I guess this is a question for others that have run both CM 9 and CM 10. Has anyone noticed a degradation of performance when running CM 10 vs CM 9 from SD on a 16gb NT?
I have tried several versions of CM 10 and all have the same issues. SOD, games don't work, frequent power downs... the usual complaints. I originally skipped CM 9 because hey I wanted the latest and greatest but decided after reading some other threads about stability to give CM 9 0.5.3 a try. Wow what a night and day difference. Everything that didn't work in 10 works perfectly in 9(using the same card and partition layout).
On my CM10 installs I tried reformatting the SD card numerous times (Transcend 8GB/CL4). I tried the last 3 updated versions posted by chrmhoffman(SP?) I've wiped and re-wiped dalvik and cache, though to be honest from the SD version I am not sure if it does anything. I have tried re-downloading the files in the event they were corrupted. I've verified that I properly placed updater-script for the SD install. I have spent hours verifying and re-verifying I didn't miss something. Other than the B&N repartition I have nothing special done to my nook. I haven't even installed a recovery or rooted the stock OS.
So perhaps I'm doing it wrong? Will an internal install make a difference?
I have read many a thread and haven't found anything comparing the 2. If they exist and this has been mentioned please direct me to the appropriate reading material.
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Take a look at the CM9, CM10 and the kernel 3.0 threads in the developer section. There are two flavors of CM9 out there, one compiled with the GB kernel and one compiled with the ICS kernel (sorry, but I can't recall at which point chrmhoffman moved his CM10 build to the newer kernel). All of the problems you mentioned are well know bugs in the 3.0.x kernel at this time, and the devs are working feverishly to resolve them. In the meantime, running CM9 with the GB kernel (2.65.x) will give you a more stable platform, but no access to the advanced features in the newer kernel -- hardware video acceleration being the most obvious of the new features.
With all of that being said, I've been switching between chrmhoffman's latest CM10 build and demetris' latest CM10/cherry pick build for the last couple of days, and they are both tremendously improved over their earlier builds in terms of stability. I would confidently use either one as a daily driver at this point.
Ugh, see I'm an idiot. I totally spaced on the fact that it wasn't running 3.x kernel.
OK beyond that I still find CM10 really unusable and I'm not sure how others are getting it to function so well. I've tried the last 3 revisions with the same results on each of them. Could it be a matter of not running it from internal? Has anyone tried the SD version then switched to emmc? If yes what were your results and observations?
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I actually find that ROMs run better from my SD card, but that's probably due to my SD card having pretty good speeds. As for the problems that currently exist on the CM10 ROMs, there isn't going to be much difference in BSODs and random reboots between running from internal and SD.
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I actually find that ROMs run better from my SD card, but that's probably due to my SD card having pretty good speeds. As for the problems that currently exist on the CM10 ROMs, there isn't going to be much difference in BSODs and random reboots between running from internal and SD.
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Yep, the biggest improvements I've seen is from turning on "Don't Keep Activities" in the Developer Options and setting the CPU Governor to HOTPLUG in the Performance Options. With these set, I'm actually able to run for days at a time without getting an SOD failure.
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Yep, the biggest improvements I've seen is from turning on "Don't Keep Activities" in the Developer Options and setting the CPU Governor to HOTPLUG in the Performance Options. With these set, I'm actually able to run for days at a time without getting an SOD failure.
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Are you ****ting me? Days? With those settings I am lucky to get mins! Seriously the reason for the post was that I get 20 mins tops before I have to reboot it. Then it takes forever to reboot stating it is optimizing applications.
I did a clean install of 04/10 the day it came out and I haven't had a single reboot or SOD. I do have some minor issues with video playback but YouTube works as does MX Player (with software decoder). Battery life has been great too with about 2 1/2-3 days on a charge.
This is with the ROM Installed to internal emmc.
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I did a clean install of 04/10 the day it came out and I haven't had a single reboot or SOD. I do have some minor issues with video playback but YouTube works as does MX Player (with software decoder). Battery life has been great too with about 2 1/2-3 days on a charge.
This is with the ROM Installed to internal emmc.
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Ill give that version a shot and see what happens.
Ok so I looked at the latest CM10 and it looks like 0.5.3. I have tried that revision with the same abysmal results as the 5.2 and 5.1 or whatever the 2 previous revisions were.
Ugh talk about frustrating! I truly don't understand what I can be doing wrong that others can daily drive it and I can't even get 30 mins out of it.
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Are you ****ting me? Days? With those settings I am lucky to get mins! Seriously the reason for the post was that I get 20 mins tops before I have to reboot it. Then it takes forever to reboot stating it is optimizing applications.
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No ***ting at all. I let my son run my NT until the battery died yesterday. I plugged it in for a few hours (probably more like 6 or 7 hours, to be honest). Powered it up 12 hours ago and unplugged it to check on battery performance. Now it's been running for 12+ hours without an SOD, and is at 85% battery...
I hate you! hahaha Just kidding. I think I hate my nook right now though.
Hey guys, all well and good but I would recommend you due to serial number implemented now be careful when you show it on public forums. Maybe b&n is watching you :banghead:
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Have to 2nd the no SODs. Got a few with the first few releases but nothing since. I'm on Chris' CM10 (internal), no changes to CPU etc. The battery life is still bad but I try not let it get too low so I plug it in every night to charge.
Nikkiel
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Some of you are really making me feel like this! haha It seems that all of you running solid appear to be running it internally. I'm starting to get the funny feeling that the SD modified version may be the problem.
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Hey guys, all well and good but I would recommend you due to serial number implemented now be careful when you show it on public forums. Maybe b&n is watching you :banghead:
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Thanks for the warning/reminder... I hadn't even thought about that...
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put cm9 on nook tablets, all of the sudden both went into boot loop, don't know to get out. Someone said that the "ROM has a time limit" & suggested "mod delete"...what's that & how...
Was going to give 1 nook tablet to a nun who'll leave for Ghana soon, but this happened...
2 questions:
1. should I leave it in stock mode...this nun does not know how to fix it...besides, she'll be in Ghana...don't know if she'll have access to internet.
2. if not, which version of cm...cm7 or cm9 should I put it on for her... reason for rooting & putting cm7 or cm9 is so I can utilize most if not all of 16gb of the nook tablet...since I heard that BN only allows 1gb of storage...
Thank you & God bless
Im running CM7 at the moment, and its the most stable thing since stabilizers!!!
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Im running CM7 at the moment, and its the most stable thing since stabilizers!!!
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i've had my cm7 ( soft ) lock up on me twice now. . amd both times were related to it going to sleep. . so if you 'always' have the habit of powering down the unit . . .
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Don't go with CM9. It is really not for production yet. Also CM9 has a timer and will stop working every month or so and you have to download and install the next version. I am running the SD version of CM7 and it works well. I have heard the internal is also stable.
B&N will reformat your partitions if you are stock so you get more storage. Probably the best route if the tablets will only be used as readers. Then, maybe the simple touch was a better choice. Way longer battery life. If any hope of internet the CM7 will give a better tablet experience.
You also can add an SD card for additional storage and the sd card can be swapped around and one can be preloaded and mailed..
Bill
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Don't go with CM9. It is really not for production yet.l
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This is bad advice in my opinion. CM9 is plenty stable enough, its more a question of whether the missing features will affect a given user and this will vary from user to user. Honestly, I think anyone who is flashing roms should at least check it out.
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In the OP it was stated the NTs were going overseas with some nuns who are not tech savey and may not even have internet. What do they do when CM9 expires?
Why does it expire? I rooted the HP Touchpad for my brother & I don't think it has same problem...or at least he hasn't complained to me...
so why is there an expiration for the Nook Tablet? & is there a way of fixing it?
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In the OP it was stated the NTs were going overseas with some nuns who are not tech savey and may not even have internet. What do they do when CM9 expires?
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Why does it expire? I rooted the HP Touchpad for my brother & I don't think it has same problem...or at least he hasn't complained to me...
so why is there an expiration for the Nook Tablet? & is there a way of fixing it?
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Completely different developers. CM9 is open source so people can use the code to adapt it for other devices. The developers for the nook have decided to make it expire. Its still a rom in development though so anyone using it is likely checking the forums pretty regularly. Its not exactly difficult to reflash the rom once a month.
Also, just to nitpick a bit, you didn't root the touchpad as its not a Linux based device. You likely pushed the custom bootloader moboot and then pushed the custom version of android, cm9, allowing it to have dual boot setup.
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correct...well she's officially leaving tomorrow, so i only have today to do dual boot from sd so if things go wrong she can just take it out...
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Completely different developers. CM9 is open source so people can use the code to adapt it for other devices. The developers for the nook have decided to make it expire. Its still a rom in development though so anyone using it is likely checking the forums pretty regularly. Its not exactly difficult to reflash the rom once a month.
Also, just to nitpick a bit, you didn't root the touchpad as its not a Linux based device. You likely pushed the custom bootloader moboot and then pushed the custom version of android, cm9, allowing it to have dual boot setup.
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Go to the general thread thread 1059 is a link for CM7 internal. Has been fine for me and it has deep sleep and the wifi doesn't appear to die. Stay away from CM9 in your case. Rooted stock would also be acceptable.
Bill
I'm sorry to ask this but actually it's hard for me to see what I'm gonna gain by installing a custom ROM.
I'm saying this, being the owner of two android mobiles, fully rooted and with different ROM's in it.
I'm also one of the unfortunately who bought the 8gb version, which is harder and have few options for a non-stock ROM. I'm rooted, but seeing how faulty some ROM's look to me, I'm still worried that moving to a custom ROM will only give me problems instead of resolving stuff I don't like in the stock. But then, I look at the 16gb version and there isn't more abundance in options, maybe some things are just easier.
So please, tell me that I'm wrong, that going for CM9 is no worst that staying with the stock and so on that I'll find the light.
Cheers
Well I'd have to say I am enjoying CM9 much more than the stock ROM. If you still aren't sure, I would just make a bootable SD card with CM7 or CM9 and try that out for a while. That way you still have your stock ROM untouched internally.
I second the SD cm7 option. I did that for a while. Soon discovered I wasn't using the stock so I experimented with all the ROMs available. I liked the cm9 that crashed as it had the location by wifi working. Cm7 SD does as well. Since a couple of weeks I am running the April 24 build got cm7 internal. When cm9 is stable I will switch.
Bill
Definitely a good idea using the SD card idea to check it out. That's what i ended up doing and now I'm running CM9 internal (the most recent 2.x. kernel one). It's marked as an alpha but it's still really good. From what i've seen on the forum, they are still working on some major fixes on the 3.x kernel.
I am similar in that i have the DroidX and have tried out most of the major custom roms over the last 2 years.
I ended up trying out CM7 on an SD for about 2 days. Then loaded up CM9 internally and haven't used stock or cm7 since. I find ICS to be a much nicer tablet OS.
But my use of the Nook may be diff than yours. So check out the SD versions and decide if u can live with the issues each may have.
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I tried for a while the CM7 on SD. Maybe it was the SD, but the experience was very laggy, not smoth at all...
Since I'm with the 8GB version I can only install the CM9 internally, but I'm not sure after reading the thread if by doing it in the 8GB I can revert back to stock easily. And this is my main fear, that I'm jumping into an unstable thing and then I can't go back. So if there is some stupidity in this remark please let me know.
On another point I see people eagerly to move to the new google tablet and this is sad, because only with a lot of people we can get ROM's and developers. If that would happen and if we could install a custom and stable CM rom this whole idea of mass migration from one tablet to the other would be halted.
A small question: video playback in the CM9? Is it any good? I do travel a lot and use the tablet to check some movies.
If we can revert to stock after installing the CM9 on the 8GB I'll definitely try this weekend.
Cheers
I'm in the same boat. I rooted my SGS2, but I haven't seen any real big reason root my NT. I got it just before Christmas and have been fairly happy with they way it runs stock.
Something that runs a better browser would be my biggest issue at this point in time, but other than that...
I suppose it just depends on how you use it.
I have the 16gb version, but I had to install it internally also. Here's what i did: got root on stock, did a nandroid backup to my SD card, then installed cmw9 internally. I figured since I have the back up I would be able to restore back to my rooted stock.
But, like you say, it may be diff for the 8gb model.
As far as video is concerned, yes cm9 may be an issue for you. Video acceleration is a problem. In YouTube, you need to turn off HQ to be able to watch the videos. I don't watch any movies on it, but i would think it would be an issue. I'm pretty sure this is something they are working on for the next version. But cm7 plays videos fine, i believe.
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The SD CM7 plays HD YouTube flawlessly. But you don't have equivalent quality for Netflix or Hulu Plus (which requires a sideloaded apk) compared to stock.
Since getting a Galaxy Nexus I've actually had less need for CM7 myself, particularly since some key apps like Dolphin, Twitter and Flipboard are on the Nook App Market. But it depends on your own usage.
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I have a 16gb NT,
Can someone point me to a way to make a cm9 sdcard? Im running cm7 sdcard and really want to try cm9 without fully rooting the stock os..
Thanks for your help!
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I have a 16gb NT,
Can someo point me to a way to make a m9 sdcard? Im running cm7 sdcard and really want to try cm9 witho fully rooting the stock os..
Thanks for your help!
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Check out @succulent's thread in the Development sub forum about dual booting SD cards. I believe there are even step by step instructions on his blog, which is linked in that thread.
ok so ive tried to read everything i can and ive got my head pretty much around it but a few more direct inputs would help.
i went from cm7 to cm9 and a few cm10 on my wife nook. she doesnt like them they seem unstable for the amount she uses it. reboot or locked up about once an hour as she was reading with nook for andriod or running an audio book player.i also went from cmw5. to cmwv6.0.1.5. so with the new cmw6. you cant flash cm7 roms. it looks like people have had luck by holding Power + N and restart till 8 times but that puts it back to stock is my understanding. would like to know if that is correct i would need to reroot it then. next way ive been looking at is [RECOVERY + HOW-TO] NEW/OLD ClockworkMod/TWRP/Stock Recoveries for 8GB/16GB NT page but im confused on what ones to use. i want to go to cm7 but i dont think the cm7 flash will work since my cmw is at v6. ok guys i know that was alot but ya help would be great. so again i just want to go back to cm7 and would like some help getting there.
I have done this. I wanted to try cm10 and flashed cwm 6 but it was too unstable. All you have to do is flash the cwm for cm7 like you did for going to cwm6. Then flash the rom and gapps again and Voila
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do you know which version that is? i think it was like 5.0..... but dont member what is said exactly thanks for ya help so far though and where would i find a link to download the old cmw?
I think its under development called recovery how to...it explains everything there including which version is for which roms
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ok so ive tried to read everything i can and ive got my head pretty much around it but a few more direct inputs would help.
i went from cm7 to cm9 and a few cm10 on my wife nook. she doesnt like them they seem unstable for the amount she uses it. reboot or locked up about once an hour as she was reading with nook for andriod or running an audio book player.i also went from cmw5. to cmwv6.0.1.5. so with the new cmw6. you cant flash cm7 roms. it looks like people have had luck by holding Power + N and restart till 8 times but that puts it back to stock is my understanding. would like to know if that is correct i would need to reroot it then. next way ive been looking at is [RECOVERY + HOW-TO] NEW/OLD ClockworkMod/TWRP/Stock Recoveries for 8GB/16GB NT page but im confused on what ones to use. i want to go to cm7 but i dont think the cm7 flash will work since my cmw is at v6. ok guys i know that was alot but ya help would be great. so again i just want to go back to cm7 and would like some help getting there.
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What specifically was bothering your wife? The CM10 ROMs have matured very quickly in the last month or so, and the devs are slaying bugs right and left. It's possible that something as simple as tweaking a few settings could get her Nook back to running stably on a CM10 ROM, with much less work done...
Regardless, if you want to roll back, I'd suggest installing TWRP 2.x, which works for both CM7, and CM9/10 ROMs (as long as you haven't flashed the 5-touchpoint firmware update). There's a detailed thread in the Dev section by Lavero.Burgos with instructions here.
i tried 3 copies of cm10 and 1 copy of cm9 it would deep sleep or reboot comstantly im talking 2-3 time an hour while she was using nook for andriod or smart audiobook player. cm7 ran these without a problem so going back untill cm10 get a bit better. thanks for the info on twrp though
Is the battery draining down under 10%? I was having problems with CM10 with low battery but if keep it charged haven't had any reboot problems. I'm on not on the 5 touch ROM.
nikkieL
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i tried 3 copies of cm10 and 1 copy of cm9 it would deep sleep or reboot comstantly im talking 2-3 time an hour while she was using nook for andriod or smart audiobook player. cm7 ran these without a problem so going back untill cm10 get a bit better. thanks for the info on twrp though
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Ahh... The random reboots seem to have been pretty well killed now. If you're still interested in staying with CM10, take a look at Demetri's SGT7+CherryPicks ROM in the dev section. I've been running that for over a month now with that with no problems.
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Is the battery draining down under 10%? I was having problems with CM10 with low battery but if keep it charged haven't had any reboot problems. I'm on not on the 5 touch ROM.
nikkieL
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Running with the 06-11 version of the above ROM, I haven't had any issues with deep sleep with the CPU governor set to 'on demand'. Right now, it shows 4 1/2 hours on battery, and still holding at 89%. Part of that time it was running "Heroes Call" which is a HUGE battery hog.
Saludos,
Steve
Ok, so I know this may be stating the obvious, but just in case.....did you go into cyanogen mod and set up the display so it does not time out after one hour? A casual user could mistake the tablet going to sleep as a shut down (my mom did this)! Hitting the N button does not bring back the display during sleep, you have to hit the power button.
At least with my mom, a very casual user, the problem usually has an obvious answer that has to do with the user, not the tablet!
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thanks
yeah shes happy atm with it just rooted with b&n and a go launcher over top. Not even running cm7 and shes happy some im happy. It didnt matter on the battery lvl. Its my wife and my main thing is i dont want to mess with it at all if i dont have to, spending the few days trying different version about cause a big D. well maybe not that far but wasnt good times in my house. thanks to everyone for inputs.
I bought my wife a Nook tablet 16g for Christmas (certified preowned) the stock ROM on the device is useless, aside from no access to google play interaction with the touchscreen is choppy and laggy, and sometimes you have to select items three times before they are selected, is this normal for a stock B&N tab?
I've spent the last three days scowering this forum gathering information, so far all I've done is loaded CM7 from this thread to SD card only, modifying it a bit to just do CM7. I chose CM7 because I figured it being an older ROM it would have most hardware working correctly and be the least buggy. Needless to say the device works great with this ROM none of the issues I experienced with the stock B&N ROM existed (great job devs. much appreciated) the only thing that struck me as odd with this ROM was it didn't seem optimized for a tablet and certainly not this tablet, as all the stock phone apps were still there, as well as camera and bluetooth. Is there a ROM out there that's more suited for the nook tablet is my next question, and can all these ROMs be put on SD card and booted from there rather than altering the internal software.
Next question is can the stock ROM be altered to make it usable? Rooting obviously, maybe a different kernel so things function smoothly, adding google play. This tablet is for my wife who is not very tech savy so the more simple I can make the device to use the better.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions that can be provided, this is only the second device I've worked with, the first being me and my wife's Samsung Infuse, so the more detailed the help the better, I am literate and not opposed to reading so good links to learning resources would be great, however I would like answers to my few questions.
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I've spent the last three days scowering this forum gathering information, so far all I've done is loaded CM7 from this thread to SD card only, modifying it a bit to just do CM7. I chose CM7 because I figured it being an older ROM it would have most hardware working correctly and be the least buggy. Needless to say the device works great with this ROM none of the issues I experienced with the stock B&N ROM existed (great job devs. much appreciated) the only thing that struck me as odd with this ROM was it didn't seem optimized for a tablet and certainly not this tablet, as all the stock phone apps were still there, as well as camera and bluetooth. Is there a ROM out there that's more suited for the nook tablet is my next question, and can all these ROMs be put on SD card and booted from there rather than altering the internal software.
Next question is can the stock ROM be altered to make it usable? Rooting obviously, maybe a different kernel so things function smoothly, adding google play. This tablet is for my wife who is not very tech savy so the more simple I can make the device to use the better.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions that can be provided, this is only the second device I've worked with, the first being me and my wife's Samsung Infuse, so the more detailed the help the better, I am literate and not opposed to reading so good links to learning resources would be great, however I would like answers to my few questions.
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I find rooted stock to be just marginally better than stock: many newer apps are not backward compatible with Android Gingerbread release (which stock ROM (as well as CM7) is based on), the co-habiting of the stock and CM10 interfaces quite awkward.
I'd suggest you first try running CM10 off an SD card, that way you can conveniently switch back and forth to stock and compare them, and flash it if you decide you like it.
And cm10 is well optimized for the tablet. Cm7 did seem to have the extra phone rudimentary stuff, but remember it was the first custom rom on the NT. Since then, the other roms are quite polished.
Excellent info thanks a lot guys I'm going to load a SD with CM10 and let my wife give it a whirl.
Is a class 10 micro SD too fast for this tablet? I thought in my reading I came across something about class 10 SD's being problematic, I may have mis-read though.
I just realized the thread I said I used to get the CM7 SD boot image, wasn't the one I actually used, so I though I already had an SD bootable .img of CM10 JB, but I guess I don't. What is the most problem free SD bootable version of CM10 JB (link if possible)? I really don't want to modify the internal storage of the unit till I'm 100% sure everything works good on the unit and I find the best ROM for it (which sounds like CM10 JB)
I don't have much to compare with, but I used this more or less fool proof guide: http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
I ran the 1208 build from sd until a few days ago when I put it internally. I can't say I noticed any improvements running it internally compared to from sd so it's really good option in my opinion. (My Tablet har no problem booting from sd-card. Others have more problem and for those internal is a better choice.)
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I don't have much to compare with, but I used this more or less fool proof guide: http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
I ran the 1208 build from sd until a few days ago when I put it internally. I can't say I noticed any improvements running it internally compared to from sd so it's really good option in my opinion. (My Tablet har no problem booting from sd-card. Others have more problem and for those internal is a better choice.)
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Thank you so much, just what i was looking for something simple and easy. I'm fine experimenting and learning on my own device but my wife just wants to use the dang thing. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of SD images on the forums (unless I'm just not digging deep enough) i'm wondering why as booting from the SD seems like a great way to keep the device within warranty and get all the benifits of a rooted full android device.
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Thank you so much, just what i was looking for something simple and easy. I'm fine experimenting and learning on my own device but my wife just wants to use the dang thing. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of SD images on the forums (unless I'm just not digging deep enough) i'm wondering why as booting from the SD seems like a great way to keep the device within warranty and get all the benifits of a rooted full android device.
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Many NTs will only boot into SD from power-off and on insertion of a powered-USB cable -- an inconvenience if/when the NT ever hangs or reboots and you don't have a usb cable and a power source (e.g., wall/car charger or powered usb hub).
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Many NTs will only boot into SD from power-off and on insertion of a powered-USB cable -- an inconvenience if/when the NT ever hangs or reboots and you don't have a usb cable and a power source (e.g., wall/car charger or powered usb hub).
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So is there any advantage to flashing to internal storage if booting into the SD card is not an issue?
asawl: thank you so much for the link, this ROM is awesome my wife will be Oh so happy.
dginsd said:
So is there any advantage to flashing to internal storage if booting into the SD card is not an issue?
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None, unless you want/need to swap sd cards for media storage.
On the other hand, few people who use CM would ever want to go back to stock, so keeping stock is mostly for convenience in the event of warranty claim (you can also just backup prior to flashing CM and restore stock when needed). Once the warranty expires, there is no reason to keep stock and waste space.
While cleaning the garage, I found my wife's old nook BNTV250. She said I could have it. So, I've been trying to get a custom rom on there.
I have experience with custom roms. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 running Philz and Lollipop as well as a Note 10.1 running TWRP and Kitkat. So, I have experience with successfully installing recoveries and flashing custom roms to devices.
This one isn't as easy for some reason.
I can get a rooted stock rom by following the directions here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZyfWpBJpiE
but no matter what I try, I can't get any further than that.
When I tried to sign in with the google play store, I am told my password is bad (which it isn't). Then I get an email from google in my gmail account telling me that someone (which was me) has tried to sign in to my account but was denied because the device they were using is way too old. So, getting anything on to my device via the play store that I need, such as a terminal emulator, TWRP install, etc, is apparently out of the questions.
gapps won't flash without errors, so that is out of the question, too.
the included es file explorer won't see the internal SD card for a reason I haven't been able to figure out (yes, it has root access), so copying apk files over and installing them from there is out.
When I boot off of ann sd card, and attempt to flash custom recoveries from the internal storage, I am also unsuccessful. With TWRP, I get errors. With CWM, it says it was successful, but it isn't.
So, every road I go down to get CM on this thing is blocked.
Am I missing something, or did I just miss my window by not doing this two years ago?
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While cleaning the garage, I found my wife's old nook BNTV250. She said I could have it. So, I've been trying to get a custom rom on there.
Am I missing something, or did I just miss my window by not doing this two years ago?
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Try:
1. A factory reset
2. The instructions here---they worked for me as a noob.
That could leave you with CM 10.2. If you'd like something higher, this post might send you in the right direction after you succeed with CM 10.x, but it does become more complicated. Or you can just try to get there directly.
It can't be too late:fingers-crossed: There's life in that tablet yet!
Edit: I see that the CM 10.2 build is no longer posted over at Cyanogenmod. If you want to try it, let me know. I have the zip file.
Sorry, I haven't posted my update yet. I managed to find a solution to the problem with the included es file explorer. That allowed me to install some apk's like terminal emulator which allowed me to get TWRP on, and then the figurative flood gates were open from there.
I am disappointed. I flashed both liquid smooth kitkat, and a lollipop build. Neither are very responsive, and both seem to have great difficulties awakening from a sleeping state (the lollipop one was worse). I looked around, but couldn't find a kernel to flash. Is there a kernel we should be using to speed up these roms? If not, I think I will give up because I stand stand the slowness.
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Sorry, I haven't posted my update yet. I managed to find a solution to the problem with the included es file explorer. That allowed me to install some apk's like terminal emulator which allowed me to get TWRP on, and then the figurative flood gates were open from there.
I am disappointed. I flashed both liquid smooth kitkat, and a lollipop build. Neither are very responsive, and both seem to have great difficulties awakening from a sleeping state (the lollipop one was worse). I looked around, but couldn't find a kernel to flash. Is there a kernel we should be using to speed up these roms? If not, I think I will give up because I stand stand the slowness.
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I read through some CM11 threads and was amazed at the different experiences people had, ranging from "works great" to "really sluggish". Speaking only from a logical perspective it seems to me that the more advanced OS you try to shoe-horn into an older device, the more likely you will exhaust (or at least severely task) its hardware resources. Like trying to install Windows 10 on a machine designed for XP with hardware that just barely meets the minimum requirements of Win 10.
All I can say is that CM 10.2 works "great" on my NT. I've yet to encounter an app that I wanted which would not run (of course, my wants may not match yours). I can read the newspaper, listen to music, Kodi runs great--I can even stream a video from the NT to my TV (which has an old laptop connected) using VLCDirect. So lots of life in the thing from my perspective. CM 10.2 does get cranky once in awhile, but a reboot sorts that out. I expect many newer tablets are the same in that respect.
Let me know if you change your mind and want to try CM10.2
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I read through some CM11 threads and was amazed at the different experiences people had, ranging from "works great" to "really sluggish". Speaking only from a logical perspective it seems to me that the more advanced OS you try to shoe-horn into an older device, the more likely you will exhaust (or at least severely task) its hardware resources. Like trying to install Windows 10 on a machine designed for XP with hardware that just barely meets the minimum requirements of Win 10.
All I can say is that CM 10.2 works "great" on my NT. I've yet to encounter an app that I wanted which would not run (of course, my wants may not match yours). I can read the newspaper, listen to music, Kodi runs great--I can even stream a video from the NT to my TV (which has an old laptop connected) using VLCDirect. So lots of life in the thing from my perspective. CM 10.2 does get cranky once in awhile, but a reboot sorts that out. I expect many newer tablets are the same in that respect.
Let me know if you change your mind and want to try CM10.2
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You talked me into it. I'll give 10.2 a shot. I'm assuming that's based on Jellybean. I think every app I want to use will still work on Jellybean.
Any recommended builds? Any recommended gapps?
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You talked me into it. I'll give 10.2 a shot. I'm assuming that's based on Jellybean. I think every app I want to use will still work on Jellybean.
Any recommended builds? Any recommended gapps?
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I finally located the 10.x downloads here. I'm using the last stable build, 10.2.1 (Android equivalent 4.3.1). You should use the gapps package that is listed for 10.2 build here.
Like I said in an earlier post, I followed the excellent directions from digixmax here and while the initial boot was kind of confusing, things did sort themselves out. But that method assumes you are starting from stock. If you can't get back to there you'll need to try something else.
Once in a blue moon some app in the PlayStore will be listed as incompatible, I guess because Google can't quite figure out what to make of these modded tablets, even though the Android version is well within reach of CM 10.2. That happened recently to me with my local newspaper app. I just used this site to download the app outside the PlayStore and then side-loaded it. It installed and works just fine.
Good luck! I hope this all works to your satisfaction
Well, I installed CM 10.2. Everything works, albiet VERY slowly. I'm going to go google for a kernel now so I can do some overclocking. If I can't find one, then I'm afraid I'll have to let this go. It is just too slow and unresponsive the way it is to be productive.
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Well, I installed CM 10.2. Everything works, albiet VERY slowly. I'm going to go google for a kernel now so I can do some overclocking. If I can't find one, then I'm afraid I'll have to let this go. It is just too slow and unresponsive the way it is to be productive.
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Sorry it didn't work out well for you. It's obvious to say, but either there is a hardware issue or something did not go right in the flashing. Otherwise no one would bother with these things.
You've probably already looked at this, but just in case, under Settings/Performance/Processor I show a resting CPU freq. of 300 MHz, the governor set at "interactive, and a max. CPU freq. of 1008 MHz. Theoretically you could try playing with those if you have the same figures, but I'm not sure where that would take you.
The only custom kernel I could find for this was for KitKat, so I reflashed with that. I clocked both the minimum and the maximum to 1200 MHz. Even at that, my Antutu benchmarks score was just under 14k, or less than half of the score for my Samsung Galaxy Note 2. I never got "great" results with this device so far, but the KK with the custom kernel is the best I have got so far. I'm tempted to try this KK kernel with the lollipop build to see what happens. If I do that, I'll report my results.
This device is over four years old now. Add to this that, at the time, it wasn't exactly designed to break any speed records. All it was intended to do is read ebooks, and play a few other select apps. No GPS, no bluetooth. I guess asking it to run today's resource intense apps like Facebook may be asking too much of it. But, for some weird reason, I can't let this go now. It is kind of like an electronic pet to me. I keep it by my easy chair, and I pick it up and start doing something with it quite often.
Yeah, I was just getting ready to point you toward the kernal for CM 11 but you got there without my direction.
It's really puzzling to me that your system seems so slow. Maybe mine is too! I've never owned a tablet before (I don't count my much-modded NST e-ink reader!) and this one running CM 10.2 seems just fine to me, certainly no worse than laptops I often work with. I have an inexpensive LG smartphone I just bought to use as an mp3 player after my much-loved Insignia Pilot finally died. It runs KitKat and seems about as responsive as my Nook Tablet, maybe slightly better, so I guess a lot is what we are used to.