I'm opening up this thread to continue a discussion that started in another thread, to try to keep that thread a bit more on topic. Feel free to discuss how you think your phone is better than another phone, or whatever else. Just continue keeping it a nice and friendly discussion. Thanks a lot everyone!
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I moved this post to the OP spot, apologies to Pandemic for having you as the OP.
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Pandemic said:
I beat my friends thier phone (one of the newest, like galaxy note and htc desire) against my Neo V stock official 587 supercharged and modified in all opinions (browsing, loading, scrolling and all that stuff) , they are shocked hahaha xD
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Desire, ok agreed. But note???
What kind of sorcery is this???
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DeathCzar said:
Desire, ok agreed. But note???
What kind of sorcery is this???
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Yes indeed and i dont know of his note but he get a bucnh of crap on it a saw, further i dont know mate, its strange but what can i do about it.
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Desire, ok agreed. But note???
What kind of sorcery is this???
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Hahaha xD
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ok. but at 1.4 ghz dual core, touchwiz sh*ts in its pants and works smooth.
what crap had he loaded on it???
coz i have a bunch noob friends with the note with lots of crap.
My phone beats none
I also don't think it's possible. Galaxy S2 even beats the Xperia S
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ok. but at 1.4 ghz dual core, touchwiz sh*ts in its pants and works smooth.
what crap had he loaded on it???
coz i have a bunch noob friends with the note with lots of crap.
My phone beats none
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Hahaha yeah i dont know mate, i thought its not possible but i will do another test with him soon, i dont know about the crap becaise its alot, but his galaxy note is not what it must be, almost dead i think.
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I beat a guy on stock Optimus 2x with lots of crap today with cm9.1 on mine. That's fair play ( I think ) as that thing has twice our processing power. Let's see if I can beat any other dual core...
P.S. Believe it or not, I've never lost to any single core device. Ever.
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If I may ask. When you people say I beat that and that device. How did you actually beat it, in what way?
Just general responsiveness. Lags in games ( or should I say the lack of it?) I never do benchmarks as I think they are useless to test the phone as a whole. They just test raw processing power.
And against people who want to go specs wise, I just say. No thanks.
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DeathCzar said:
Just general responsiveness. Lags in games ( or should I say the lack of it?) I never do benchmarks as I think they are useless to test the phone as a whole. They just test raw processing power.
And against people who want to go specs wise, I just say. No thanks.
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Actually you picked model which is raw power but bad at being fluid.
Launcher which is used on Optimus 2X is badly made, and it lags by default At least it was on GB, don't know how it's on ICS(if O2X even got ICS)
Kinda same story as launcher on Sony ICS, it is ****, at least in builds before .587, but even in 587 it's not as good as on GB.
Also, you can't compare 2 phones, one on stock, other on custom rom with performance modifications.
Another thing, O2X is on tegra2 SoC, its kinda hard to believe that games were more fast on Neo. as tegra eats games for breakfast but ok if you say so
Sorry, don't want to be downer but put both phones on stock and then compare them.
Also Pandemic told that his phone beat Galaxy Note. I guess he forgot that note have "a bit" larger screen with "a bit" larger resolution. You can't compare car's and trucks.
On big screen and big resolution add that note maybe had some more apps on it.. and nothing strange that he beat him on scrolling and loading pages. Put that kind of screen on Neo and watch him breathing like dying..
For example, 1GHz with 3.5"screen and 1GHz_dual core with 4"screen, nothing strange if you see that both phones have similar result in some graphic tests
Another thing, some phones are just badly made, like htc sensation, it has good spec's but it's badly at usage, don't know how is in benchmarks(actually if I remember correct, it was also pretty bad in tests), but usage is bad.
We all went a bit off topic here, maybe slicing some posts into another thread would be ok..
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I'm opening up this thread to continue a discussion that started in another thread, to try to keep that thread a bit more on topic. Feel free to discuss how you think your phone is better than another phone, or whatever else. Just continue keeping it a nice and friendly discussion. Thanks a lot everyone!
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General chat thread gone off-topic. We have just gone full meta.
I don't mind a new thread though.
The last few weeks I was seriously considering buying a new phone in about 3 months, but I just realized that this phone isn't too bad on Jelly Bean. Every normal app works fine (except for the crappy built Google Maps). Gaming was never smooth, just puzzle games is enough.
Actually this phone is still better than many new midrange phone.
For example take the HTC One V. Same CPU, lower ppi screen, same android version (actually lower (4.0.3 vs 4.0.4), camera is far worse, only build quality (alu-unibody) is better. This phone is €250 currently. I paid less than €350 for my neo. If I take a look at the pricewatch, the Neo was €250 exactly a year ago. Conclusion: the phone would still be good value for money. I'm pretty sure our camera beats the crappy shooter on the €600 HTC One X+.
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I've also realized I don't have an alternative to choose from. Name a phone with 4" or smaller screen with at least 250 ppi, fast cpu, good camera and expandable storage.
I agree @Madfysh,
But you see, I know people in school etc. who keep giving me s**t about how their phone is better than mine. And after tons of ignoring it, knowing it's no use trying to compare phones, you just have to tell them to STFU. That's when, I take part in these "competitions." And knowing its unfair, I happily give them "in your face b**ch" with custom ROMS.
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@sdk, Xperia sola perhaps. And since s3 launched, the s2 is quite coming into the same price range now.
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sdk16420 said:
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Right?! No one meant any harm, but this should have it's own thread
Madfysh said:
For example, 1GHz with 3.5"screen and 1GHz_dual core with 4"screen, nothing strange if you see that both phones have similar result in some graphic tests
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this is wrong mate,inches of the screen really doesn't matter at all when it comes to performance.What matters is resolution.If 4" screen have a higher resolution and if the same processor and ram then 3.5" one will perform better than 4"
Agree with the whole other part of the post tho
sdk16420 said:
General chat thread gone off-topic. We have just gone full meta.
I don't mind a new thread though.
The last few weeks I was seriously considering buying a new phone in about 3 months, but I just realized that this phone isn't too bad on Jelly Bean. Every normal app works fine (except for the crappy built Google Maps). Gaming was never smooth, just puzzle games is enough.
Actually this phone is still better than many new midrange phone.
For example take the HTC One V. Same CPU, lower ppi screen, same android version (actually lower (4.0.3 vs 4.0.4), camera is far worse, only build quality (alu-unibody) is better. This phone is €250 currently. I paid less than €350 for my neo. If I take a look at the pricewatch, the Neo was €250 exactly a year ago. Conclusion: the phone would still be good value for money. I'm pretty sure our camera beats the crappy shooter on the €600 HTC One X+.
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I've also realized I don't have an alternative to choose from. Name a phone with 4" or smaller screen with at least 250 ppi, fast cpu, good camera and expandable storage.
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Agree,comparing 2011 xperia mid range(Neo,V,Ray) to today midrange devices there are some downsides with each mid range devices.If I want to upgrade from my Neo to a decent midrange device then in xperia range only thing that comes to my mind is Xperia P but then the huge no comes with 16GB memory :/ This is just an one example.
Anyway on topic well my neo does everything I need it to do and just love the blue gradient color so far only downside I see with neo is 512mb ram.
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this is wrong mate,inches of the screen really doesn't matter at all when it comes to performance.What matters is resolution.If 4" screen have a higher resolution and if the same processor and ram then 3.5" one will perform better than 4"
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Hands were faster than brain
Actually thats what I mean
I was looking at o2x screen size and galaxy note resolution so made a mistake..
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Hands were faster than brain
Actually thats what I mean
I was looking at o2x screen size and galaxy note resolution so made a mistake..
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Yes and the eyes are to slow
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Anyway on topic well my neo does everything I need it to do and just love the blue gradient color so far only downside I see with neo is 512mb ram.
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same here with some mods i got it to be quite fast and it does the things i use it nicely. if only it had 1gig of ram....
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The only hitch I have against this phone is the TFT screen...isn't it slightly an old technology??
I am talking about the Neo V
Is it good enough...does it matter a lot?
To be honest, I don't care much about screen as long as its clear enough,
I am not fan of AMOLED and SLCD etc, of course they look awesome, but I am not going to watch videos or slide shows in that screen! so I am happy with Neo V
The Neo has basically the same screen as the arc. Black is not as black as on Super AMOLED, but the colours look much more real, not so oversaturated. Bad thing is that the screen isn't very bright on stock firmware, but in MIUI ROM and with the Disable Auto Brightness for Xperia app in the market the screen looks beautiful.
Display in Neo V is very good, although he could to have a slightly better viewing angles.
Thanx people...sdk16420 is right, I checked and its the same...so every1 happy with the phone...am planning to buy this...
the front camera works well on Skype?? Plan to buy it for my wife...
Yes, tested it right after Skype supported it, and it works perfect.
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Yes, tested it right after Skype supported it, and it works perfect.
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Awesome bro!! U just made my day!!
I was haggling with this forever...wanted to buy a HTC Desire, but people suggested against it. Then the Desire S, but it was wayyy out of my budget...and then I hit upon this...thanx a ton man!!
And do the games run smoothly...??
Mwah, GTA3 doesn't, though it can be decently played with OC kernel @ 1,4GHz. PES2011/PES2012 work smoothly on stock firmware with not too much background apps.
So the heavy games can barely be played, but the popular games works fine.
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although he could to have a slightly better viewing angles.
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Why oh why do you people "moan" about bad view angles?
I will never understand that. Do you browse, read msg/mail, write msg/mail or view pictures, while phone is beside you, or you do all that while you are looking in it straight??
I could understand bad view while in direct sun light, but view angles..
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Mwah, GTA3 doesn't, though it can be decently played with OC kernel @ 1,4GHz.
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It is almost smooth for me on stock firmware w/some little tweaks (V6 etc.).
circleofomega said:
Awesome bro!! U just made my day!!
I was haggling with this forever...wanted to buy a HTC Desire, but people suggested against it. Then the Desire S, but it was wayyy out of my budget...and then I hit upon this...thanx a ton man!!
And do the games run smoothly...??
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So far Shadowgun,captain america,GT racing,GTA 3(after playing with settings and tweaking a little),Speedx 3d works good.Haven't had any time to test more.When there is lot of traffic still GTA 3 lags a little(happens in lot of mid range devices I guess),then again not much playing gta 3 on phone as its pain in a*s to play this with lcd screen.You'll get shot and die lot more than on pc
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Mwah, GTA3 doesn't, though it can be decently played with OC kernel @ 1,4GHz. PES2011/PES2012 work smoothly on stock firmware with not too much background apps.
So the heavy games can barely be played, but the popular games works fine.
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Use that settings editor in xda.This will fix most of the problems.
And I use stock kernel,so no oc'ing.
Just one thing, I am not going to flash any ROMs...going to play only on the stock...no over clocking or anything...
Just plain stock...and yes, have seen a couple of videos too...the games I want run fine...so lets see...and yes, someone confirmed the FF camera is also great...
And do you guys know what, the missus also likes it...Oh did I mention, its not for me but her and she loves it...
So, fingers crossed... just going to see one in real soon...
any preferences of colour though...She likes the BLue/Black..i like the white, we both hate the silver...
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Just one thing, I am not going to flash any ROMs...going to play only on the stock...no over clocking or anything...
Just plain stock...and yes, have seen a couple of videos too...the games I want run fine...so lets see...and yes, someone confirmed the FF camera is also great...
And do you guys know what, the missus also likes it...Oh did I mention, its not for me but her and she loves it...
So, fingers crossed... just going to see one in real soon...
any preferences of colour though...She likes the BLue/Black..i like the white, we both hate the silver...
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Using stock rom and kernel here,everything works smooth.Only thing I don't like is every time when someone need to send something via bluetooth I have to make the device discoverable and it stays in that mode for only around 120 seconds.Is there anyway to make the device discoverable permanent instead this 120 seconds mode ? In cm7 rom this option is available.
About roms,try some,its fun ( if you can get boot loader patched with setool2 then pc companion can fix any brick you do to your phone with roms )
Considering ff camera is vga it got good quality & no wonder missus likes the phone great design tbh,both my father,mother,brother and sister(
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considering this is not pink lol ) liked it when I brought it.About the colors,comparing all the colors personally I like black blue gradient one.Missus too likes it and also white one can get dirty after some using so go for black blue gradient one
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Using stock rom and kernel here,everything works smooth.Only thing I don't like is every time when someone need to send something via bluetooth I have to make the device discoverable and it stays in that mode for only around 120 seconds.Is there anyway to make the device discoverable permanent instead this 120 seconds mode ? In cm7 rom this option is available.
About roms,try some,its fun ( if you can get boot loader patched with setool2 then pc companion can fix any brick you do to your phone with roms )
Considering ff camera is vga it got good quality & no wonder missus likes the phone great design tbh,both my father,mother,brother and sister(
considering this is not pink lol ) liked it when I brought it.About the colors,comparing all the colors personally I like black blue gradient one.Missus too likes it and also white one can get dirty after some using so go for black blue gradient one
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Thank you so much Thilina...the missus too likes ONLY the blue gradient and believe me, I am scouring the internet to find a bad review about this phone, havent got one yet...
So, I guess I have made my decision...Sorry HTC Desire S, I don't love u any more..
Xperia Neo V...here I come...
Once again, thanx every1...all your kind words are much appreciated...and the people here too seem helpful, not hooligans and rude...
So will be joining your family soon...Thanx once again to everyone who contributed their two cents...
circleofomega said:
Thank you so much Thilina...the missus too likes ONLY the blue gradient and believe me, I am scouring the internet to find a bad review about this phone, havent got one yet...
So, I guess I have made my decision...Sorry HTC Desire S, I don't love u any more..
Xperia Neo V...here I come...
Once again, thanx every1...all your kind words are much appreciated...and the people here too seem helpful, not hooligans and rude...
So will be joining your family soon...Thanx once again to everyone who contributed their two cents...
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But keep in mind neo got less ram only 512 instead of 768 in desire s
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circleofomega said:
Thank you so much Thilina...the missus too likes ONLY the blue gradient and believe me, I am scouring the internet to find a bad review about this phone, havent got one yet...
So, I guess I have made my decision...Sorry HTC Desire S, I don't love u any more..
Xperia Neo V...here I come...
Once again, thanx every1...all your kind words are much appreciated...and the people here too seem helpful, not hooligans and rude...
So will be joining your family soon...Thanx once again to everyone who contributed their two cents...
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No problem & good luck with Neo V mate
no offense to desire s users but it looks really ugly to me
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No problem & good luck with Neo V mate
no offense to desire s users but it looks really ugly to me
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Thanx a lot!! Will see you soon in this thread...
yaaa its much better have some problm in view anglee
Madfysh said:
Why oh why do you people "moan" about bad view angles?
I will never understand that. Do you browse, read msg/mail, write msg/mail or view pictures, while phone is beside you, or you do all that while you are looking in it straight??
I could understand bad view while in direct sun light, but view angles..
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Because many games require you to tilt the phone so much that the viewing angles come into play as you would be looking at the screen from an off angle.
Anyways apart from viewing angles the screen of neo and neo V seems to have the highest contrast of any LCD even better than pro and arc. That is something to be commanded.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_neo_v-review-695p2.php
Here it is. Well crossing finges that somebody has done this in photoshop. Butt if arc s wont get... so we are stucked too
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We have a whole Xperia Ray supporting/ developing community. I think someone will do the "hard" work for everyone else here. Someone will port it (or at least some of the features) to xperia ray. I hope so!
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the next one says Xperia Mini Pro Won't Get JB
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that's the fact
i assume all the 2011Xperia Line won't Get JB as they have the same Ram and CPU
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Here it is. Well crossing finges that somebody has done this in photoshop. Butt if arc s wont get... so we are stucked too
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no update to JB for 2011 xperia lineup..
http://www.gsmarena.com/2011_xperia...no_ics_for_optimus_2x_and_black-news-4570.php
what a stupid reply from that guy.
"we're always developing new phones and making sure they get the latest updates."
so he expect we should buy a new shiny phone everytime google updates android.
So bad of Sony. We middle class ppl can't buy every time a new higher end mobiles for each n every updates. This really hurts for every xperia 2011 model holders. Too bad.
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imho the ram is the problem, and teh single-core cpu.
ics was made for phones with dual-core cpu and 1gig of ram.
i'd be surprised if jb would run the same/better as ics on our phones.
and you have to admit, ics is remarkebly slower on our "cheap-ass" phones (mines a ray) as gb,
gb is fast as hell compared to ics.
even if i overclock my phone gb is still much faster @stock
an0nym0us_ said:
what a stupid reply from that guy.
"we're always developing new phones and making sure they get the latest updates."
so he expect we should buy a new shiny phone everytime google updates android.
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we can get custom JB rom .. and who cares about sony's JB update i am sure it will suck as ICS sony's update did before..
i am currently using Custom ICS rom as i didnt like sony's ICS update
well. sony's ics is (4.0.4) just as fine as any other ics rom offered here (imho), if you're uninstalling all the unnecessary ****, know what i mean?
running ics 4.0.4 from sony now, uninstalled all the bloatware i dont need, and its just as performant as any other ics rom offered here.
all those tweaks offered here are (imho) just eyewash, tried so many roms, tweaks and stufff, believe me, my stripped stock-ics is just as fast(slow) as any offered ics-rom for ray here.
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imho the ram is the problem, and teh single-core cpu.
ics was made for phones with dual-core cpu and 1gig of ram.
i'd be surprised if jb would run the same/better as ics on our phones.
and you have to admit, ics is remarkebly slower on our "cheap-ass" phones (mines a ray) as gb,
gb is fast as hell compared to ics.
even if i overclock my phone gb is still much faster @stock
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Dude JB runs with no lag on NEXUS ONE
One of the main problems is the companies always look for including their bloatware, no matter if it's unnecessary, bad and full of bugs; this slows the system performance dramatically. Yeah, nasty policies.
It seems like another war is coming, like when SE announced Xperia X10 wasn't going to be updated to GB. At the end, thanks for all the claims and petitions, they delivered it, but its version was terrible slow... However, that phone runs fine with AOSP.
So, the problem is NOT the hardware, but the bad software SONY delivers. I always wonder why SONY engineers have that level of incompetence.
Im still a SONY fan thanks to their beautiful models... But just for decisions like this, Im thinking about switching to HTC.
Btw, JB is supposed to be an ICS improvement, not a total system upgrade (this is confirmed by a friend of mine who owns a Galaxy Nexus and recently updated it to JB). More reasons to question SONY for not delivering.
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imho the ram is the problem, and teh single-core cpu.
ics was made for phones with dual-core cpu and 1gig of ram.
i'd be surprised if jb would run the same/better as ics on our phones.
and you have to admit, ics is remarkebly slower on our "cheap-ass" phones (mines a ray) as gb,
gb is fast as hell compared to ics.
even if i overclock my phone gb is still much faster @stock
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But mine... Ics is so much faster and smoother than gb, and much greater performance... Browser is faster, Transition between page-to-pages or scrolling is so much faster...
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One of the main problems is the companies always look for including their bloatware, no matter if it's unnecessary, bad and full of bugs; this slows the system performance dramatically. Yeah, nasty policies.
It seems like another war is coming, like when SE announced Xperia X10 wasn't going to be updated to GB. At the end, thanks for all the claims and petitions, they delivered it, but its version was terrible slow... However, that phone runs fine with AOSP.
So, the problem is NOT the hardware, but the bad software SONY delivers. I always wonder why SONY engineers have that level of incompetence.
Im still a SONY fan thanks to their beautiful models... But just for decisions like this, Im thinking about switching to HTC.
Btw, JB is supposed to be an ICS improvement, not a total system upgrade (this is confirmed by a friend of mine who owns a Galaxy Nexus and recently updated it to JB). More reasons to question SONY for not delivering.
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Switching to HTC??
HTC One V have same spec with ray and they dont get JB, only One X and One S get JB
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Switching to HTC??
HTC One V have same spec with ray and they dont get JB, only One X and One S get JB
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Yup, I'm pointing to HTC One X. However, I'll give my lovely Ray to my girlfriend, so I'll still be in touch with SONY somehow...
Well, actually that'll happen depending of my economy haha.
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Nexus s with 512mb ram...1Ghz processor...( the same specs as of 2011 xperia lineup) just git updated to jelly bean in India... So if it can handle jb why not xperia ray...? Sony is now a ****ty company...they underestimate there phones that's the reason its drowned...if not they someone else will make a rom for xperia... Moreover all the Sony stock roms suck... So it'll be better that some developer makes it...cuz he can understand a user's need...
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So bad of Sony. We middle class ppl can't buy every time a new higher end mobiles for each n every updates. This really hurts for every xperia 2011 model holders. Too bad.
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i'm totally agree with u dude .. its much more hard to have the new high-end phone for some people :crying:
Sony does NOT underestimate their phones.Its just like someone said here.. The want uz so buy new phones JUST to have the new JB update.. Its not that JB would be slow on 2011 Xperias.. thats ****. . I bet my ass that they had 4,1 for far longer that they announced it... just *****ng marketing.. "lets put 4.0 to all 2011 phones and we can USE the "new" 4.1 to get ppl top buy the new models... thats so cheap of sony but I bet my ass its just like this...
Not only SONY but every manufacturers are playing games,they want users to buy new phones instead of using their old phones. every one knows our phones are not so old that they cant handle JB,. even JB is more liter and faster then ICS its perfect for our low end phones.
Because Stock Android dont have custom skins and custom skins is hard to make it compatible with the newest android releases.. thats why nexus s can get ics jb...
and btw dont bother switching to htc.. u know the htc desire hd the flagship ? not getting ics .. and also sony has updated the entire 2011 line.. xcept play but have released a beta ics.. and samsung only updates flagship phones.. so galaxy s advanced? never gonna see the dessert.. stays on ginger..
Sony isn't favorable to update the old phones, after all is new which it is better and so on. As well as to all other producers money is necessary to them. It is a lot of money.
This beast will be my next phone. The DNA will be passed to my oldest daughter. She'll benefit from all the time it's taken me to unlock, root, s-off, etc and pick up a great device while I get the newest toy! :good:
evleaks are known to be a reliable source, so I believe these 100%.
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YAY!!!! NO HOME BUTTON!!!
http://phandroid.com/2013/03/04/is-...d-display-storage-camera-and-android-version/
April can't come soon enough!!!
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evleaks are known to be a reliable source, so I believe these 100%.
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I agree that EVLeaks has been reliable but the phone in their pics looks like it has a display much larger than 4.99". The phone in the pic looks as big as the N2. That is unless Samsung's only counting usable space vs. including what's dedicated to navigation. If that's it, it certainly doesn't have a lot of personality but I guess when the display is 95% of the front of the phone there's not a lot to work with.
Why is this even in the DNA section?
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Aspect ratio is all off, i highly doubt this is real
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Wrong forum.
Samsung's build quality doesn't even remotely compare to HTC anyway. And Sense is a million times more attractive than any skin Samsung has developed. So, yawn. Post this in an S3 thread.
How is this possibly the wrong forum? Haters are gonna hate. I've seen multiple thread in here about the HTC One/M7, gaming performance, the Playstation 4, etc, etc., but two of the first four replies say it's the wrong forum? Please. This is general as in generally, anything in reason can be discussed.
Now to respond to the intelligent responses- the aspect ratio and the rumored 4.99" screen size are just rumors. The benchmark that was posted is from an unreleased model number and may never see the day of light. The Note 2 is extremely popular and it makes sense to meld the two lines without a complete merge. This looks like an improved N2 without a pen. Besides, how can the aspect ratio be wrong if the only quasi-official spec on the screen is "full HD?"
It's either a great render or it's legit; look at the camera lens size compared to the N2 and S3: http://versusio.com/en/samsung-galaxy-note-2-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3
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How is this possibly the wrong forum? Haters are gonna hate. I've seen multiple thread in here about the HTC One/M7, gaming performance, the Playstation 4, etc, etc., but two of the first four replies say it's the wrong forum? Please. This is general as in generally, anything in reason can be discussed.
Now to respond to the intelligent responses- the aspect ratio and the rumored 4.99" screen size are just rumors. The benchmark that was posted is from an unreleased model number and may never see the day of light. The Note 2 is extremely popular and it makes sense to meld the two lines without a complete merge. This looks like an improved N2 without a pen. Besides, how can the aspect ratio be wrong if the only quasi-official spec on the screen is "full HD?"
It's either a great render or it's legit; look at the camera lens size compared to the N2 and S3: http://versusio.com/en/samsung-galaxy-note-2-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3
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Haha.. Because it says "Droid DNA General" at the top, and you are talking about a phone that is not only NOT a Droid DNA, but it isn't even made by the same manufacturer. How is it even remotely the correct forum? Posts about the One/M7 are at least understandable because they are also HTC, and the most recent follow-up to the Droid DNA, and there is not yet a forum dedicated to the One/M7. As I said, your post would be more appropriate in the S3 forum. The only purpose behind posting in this one is to stir up the "haters" to which you refer.
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Haha.. Because it says "Droid DNA General" at the top, and you are talking about a phone that is not only NOT a Droid DNA, but it isn't even made by the same manufacturer. How is it even remotely the correct forum? Posts about the One/M7 are at least understandable because they are also HTC, and the most recent follow-up to the Droid DNA, and there is not yet a forum dedicated to the One/M7. As I said, your post would be more appropriate in the S3 forum. The only purpose behind posting in this one is to stir up the "haters" to which you refer.
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Lol - how old are you man? WTF
What's the difference between this and our phone besides storage and cam?
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8-cores? No wayyyyyy
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What's the difference between this and our phone besides storage and cam?
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Newer processor. Likely an Exynos 5 octo-core everywhere but the US..... where it will have a snapdragon 600 (same processor as the HTC One) due to US carriers preference of Qualcomm. I could see the US variants getting bumped up to 4GB of RAM.
That being said...... I'll stick with my DNA.
Well this processor talk is not really my cup of tea, well and don't much about it but DNA is fast enough for me and I'm good. How come the op didn't get this excited over the m7. It has the same specs but camera.
Processor may be good but they seriously need to get away from crapoled screens. Figured they would have. And the device in the picture looks to be WAY bigger than 5 inches. It looks Note 2 sized. If that is the case, no dice.
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Processor will most likely be a little faster. Not much improvement really. The s4 will probrably have more developer support if your into that kind of thing. Removable battery to upgrade to extended battery or replace the battery if needed.
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How is this possibly the wrong forum? Haters are gonna hate. I've seen multiple thread in here about the HTC One/M7, gaming performance, the Playstation 4, etc, etc., but two of the first four replies say it's the wrong forum? Please. This is general as in generally, anything in reason can be discussed.
Besides, how can the aspect ratio be wrong if the only quasi-official spec on the screen is "full HD?"
It's either a great render or it's legit; look at the camera lens size compared to the N2 and S3: http://versusio.com/en/samsung-galaxy-note-2-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3
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Merging the lines doesn't make sense. It looks exactly like the note 2. If they wanted to look slow they make a note 5.0... Also full hd means it's going to be 1080p which is a 16:9 aspect ratio. Which it does not have. It's either a ****ty render or a soon to be failed phone. And get ready for the " is that the note 2" question... Also the octa processor has eight cores but only 4 used at once. It has 4 a15 cores and 4a7 cores i believe. The a7 are for lower priority tasks. This is Samsung's attempt to conserve power. But they mislead consumers alot with saying eight cores. I hope the s4 looks like the s3 only a tiny bit bigger at most. Merging with the note looks is retarded
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Well this processor talk is not really my cup of tea, well and don't much about it but DNA is fast enough for me and I'm good. How come the op didn't get this excited over the m7. It has the same specs but camera.
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The M7 was a minor refresh to the DNA. It still has the same storage problems and they actually went down in screen size. In these days of them making 60 and 90" HDTVs, HTC is heading in the wrong direction. The M7's camera also went in reverse in camera megapixels, but many are reporting excellent image quality with the new technology it's using. Lastly, even though the battery life on the DNA has been surprisingly good, I like being able to pull my battery if needed for dev stuff and throw in a spare when away from juice for a while.
The main reason I'm excited for this phone is I know the AOKP ROM will be on it in about two weeks after release. I used it on my GNex and my S3 and will my S4. The DNA has been a great phone (especially with Viper on it) while I waited for the S4, but I always knew it was a transitional device for me.
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You're kind of right. Octa is 4+4, a quad-core A7 teamed with a quad-core A15. It's the first commercial implementation of ARM's new big.LITTLE design which has been in development for two years. This explains Octa (big.LITTLE) if anyone's interested.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38637411&postcount=97
As for the EVLeak pics, they're fake. It was a place holder mock-up done by Expansys in preparation for the SGS4 launch. Too bad, the design in those pics would definitely be good for HTC.
"But the @evleaks tweets were quickly discredited after Expansys said that the diagrams that had been tweeted actually came from its own site - and that they were its artists' impressions of what a Galaxy S4 might look like, rather than actual pictures."
HTC is way better
Let's throw this thread way off track, and talk about something a little more interesting Who's going to buy the Xbox 720 when it comes out @ the end of the year?? The rumored specs sound pretty impressive.
My Droid DNA
I thought it would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts since the Z Ultra is more of a niche device.
For me, it's mainly because of the screen size as I wanted something more of a small tablet. I was deciding between this and Nexus 7 FHD LTE but ultimately went with the Z Ultra. Expandable memory was a huge factor in this. Plus I want to try out Sony again. I like them.
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I thought it would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts since the Z Ultra is more of a niche device.
For me, it's mainly because of the screen size as I wanted something more of a small tablet. I was deciding between this and Nexus 7 FHD LTE but ultimately went with the Z Ultra. Expandable memory was a huge factor in this. Plus I want to try out Sony again. I like them.
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Had a Nexus 7 2012 and a htc sensation, my sensation died and started to feel annoying by always have to carrying both phone and tab. Started to look for a phablet and found the XZU, meanwhile I saw the specs of the new n7 and got really disappointed. The XZU is the ultimate phablet, no real competitors yet (galaxy mega is too far behind). Sony really worked on the build quality, and this is a real plus, plastic devices can't be call a high-end devices.
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Well, I wanted to get the biggest device out there because my fingers are quite fat. I'm not saying that I'm fat but my hands are ..well ..kind of wide and thick. 4,7 inches is just to small for my hands.
I am forever a crackberry user after having the 9900 before my One X and the Bold series is hands down the best devices for typing on. But they are small, and BB phones are..just very boring.
Why I chose SONY and to continue with android is because the user friendly unlocking process of the bootloader just like HTC without using some exploit or bug. And I got a bit too comfortable with the idiot safe and too stable HTC devices and roms. I had the Desire PVT4, One X endeavour and now my dad got the silver HTC One which I'm in charge of flashing new roms and updates on so naah, I wanted to try something new and exciting with premium built quality! :fingers-crossed:
Hello, I will order my XZU in a few days. I already got a 6,44" Smartphone and im happy with its size, its perfectly fits in my jeans pocket and in my hands so i wouldn't have any problems with the size of the XZU. It is waterproof, looks pretty good and it have the snap800 thats why i decided to order it.
The camera isn't a problem in my eyes, when i want to take high quality pictures then i dont use a smartphone.
I had the Galaxy Note, and it was time to move on, so i was looking for something with a big screen. I first wanted the Xperia Z, since i really like Sony's Omni Balance design, but the screen just ruined the whole thing for me, so i checked the HTC One out, but the screen is too small. I had no idea after that, so i waited and suddenly Sony announced the Ultra, and i checked out their ad, and i started laughing since it's so huge. I dismissed it on the spot and continued with my day. A couple of days later i though about it again and i checked some more videos of it, and i suddenly said to myself, "i must have it". And that pretty much it.
Why didn't i go with the Note 3? I've had a Note for almost two years, and i wanted to leave Samsung. They are stuck IMO, and the only thing they keep pushing out now are big or small versions of an existing product, and they are still shoving crap into TouchWiz. No thanks.
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I had the Galaxy Note, and it was time to move on, so i was looking for something with a big screen. I first wanted the Xperia Z, since i really like Sony's Omni Balance design, but the screen just ruined the whole thing for me, so i checked the HTC One out, but the screen is too small. I had no idea after that, so i waited and suddenly Sony announced the Ultra, and i checked out their ad, and i started laughing since it's so huge. I dismissed it on the spot and continued with my day. A couple of days later i though about it again and i checked some more videos of it, and i suddenly said to myself, "i must have it". And that pretty much it.
Why didn't i go with the Note 3? I've had a Note for almost two years, and i wanted to leave Samsung. They are stuck IMO, and the only thing they keep pushing out now are big or small versions of an existing product, and they are still shoving crap into TouchWiz. No thanks.
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Not to mention ATT looks like they locked the bootloader on Note 3. Not sure if Tmo did the same, but it looks like they share the ATT LTE bands. I still felt that the C6806 with LTE on ATT and larger screen is better than any other device.
I come from the Note 2 and have been maintaining TWRP on the Note1 ATT and all Note 2 devices. I want to see if I can use motochopper on the C6806 since I don't trust vroot as much.
I just really wanted a small fast tablet with FHD, went round them all and finally the XZU emerged; some only dual core, some low res, some no expandable storage. Albeit the XZU is designed to be primarily a phone first, as a tablet it also excels at getting the job done. I travel internationally for work purpose, often to destinations way off the grid such as Borneo, so space is always an absolute premium.
Of course the display, I have never owned a mobile device that literally people comment on the quality of the image reproduction, especially films. Maybe I lucked out, equally I have not seen better on a mobile.
My only concern is 16Gb, bigger aps, ever larger data 32Gb should be the default on premium products. As the Galaxy Note 3 now comes with 32Gb as default it`s simply a matter of time before others follow suit, my only concern is the XZU is such a niche product it may not sustain...
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It's a Sony
i sold my Galaxy Mega, and my ZU arrives tomorrow... i got bored with Samsungs design a while ago and decided to go with Sony, the design looks really good and solid, cant wait to unbox it!
This unit is like a piece of fine art with TWO world records, Biggest smartphone and Smallest tablet. you got the Best of both world !!!
Humongous screen
And slim profile
Definitely a head turner
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I doubted first but now saw I wanted it.the screen the style, the waterresistant. And fellow xdaers have convinced me, Spidey and Lord M
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Screen and the slim body
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Just got mine this morning and OMG! I wanted to get away from Samsungs design and am so happy I did.. This makes my old mega feel like a toy... This is the best phone speed and design wise I've ever had
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Just got mine this morning and OMG! I wanted to get away from Samsungs design and am so happy I did.. This makes my old mega feel like a toy... This is the best phone speed and design wise I've ever had
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Right! My Note feels like something from Toys R Us now. When you buy an Ultra, you'll get what you pay for; quality build. When you buy a Samsung, you get a plastic duck with a lot of gestures.
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Right! My Note feels like something from Toys R Us now. When you buy an Ultra, you'll get what you pay for; quality build. When you buy a Samsung, you get a plastic duck with a lot of gestures.
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Hahaha!
(Sams always good with hardware specs though )
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(Sams always good with hardware specs though )
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Yes, they're really good at hardware specs, but not the hardware itself and the software. Plastic and TouchWiz doesn't scream "i paid top dollar for this". When i buy a Porsche i expect the best interior, exterior and performance. Samsung is good at performace. They are the Corvette of the mobile world, awesome performance but ****ty build quality (Corvettes are 101% plastic). Sony is the Aston Martin. Stylish, really fast (and expensive).
Not saying that Sony is perfect, because they're not, but they're the closest i'll get to high performace, openess and build quality in one device.
Hi!!!
I have recently become phone-less, I had an HTC One, which I gave to my brother for his birthday, then I purchased the Nexus 5. Yestarday I dropped the Nexus from ~2ft, onto carpet, and the internal LCD cracked, the glass was fine. I called Google and THANK GOD they let me return it. Right now it is between the HTC One Max and the Moto X. Please give your honest opinions of the Max, I'll be eternally grateful!!
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HTC one max man. If you liked HTC one you will love this thing. Screen blows Moto x away but phone is big. If you don't like the added size it won't be a good phone for you. If a big phone doesn't bother you go for the max!!
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HTC one max man. If you liked HTC one you will love this thing. Screen blows Moto x away but phone is big. If you don't like the added size it won't be a good phone for you. If a big phone doesn't bother you go for the max!!
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Thanks. How does it compare to the Note III? I may also consider that.
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Thanks. How does it compare to the Note III? I may also consider that.
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I like both. They both have their pros and cons. I will make a full list of pros and cons in morning for ya I'm tired now lol
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Thanks. How does it compare to the Note III? I may also consider that.
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That's the two I am considering as well. I honestly like the size of the Note 3 better, but I am HTC guy to the bone. I have owned about 8 of them. I like sense alot more than Samsung's touchwiz garbage. If someone could make a HTC Sense rom work on a Note 3, my decision would be made, LOL.
I like the Note III it could be the phone to pull me away from HTC
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I like both. They both have their pros and cons. I will make a full list of pros and cons in morning for ya I'm tired now lol
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No problem, Thanks!
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That's the two I am considering as well. I honestly like the size of the Note 3 better, but I am HTC guy to the bone. I have owned about 8 of them. I like sense alot more than Samsung's touchwiz garbage. If someone could make a HTC Sense rom work on a Note 3, my decision would be made, LOL.
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I dislike Touchwiz as well. I haven't used Samsung since the Epic 4G lmao.
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I like the Note III it could be the phone to pull me away from HTC
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I don't know.... The back is what I despise, the leather-textured plastic crap don't cut it for me.
Pros and cons for both phones....
HTC Pros:
Screen size, clarity and brightness
Signal wifi and LTE are great just like every htc device
Aluminum body/build quality these are top notch
Sense UI i absolutely love sense over any other android ui so big pro for me
Speakers once again boom sound speakers will blow any other phone out there out of the water
Sdcard not often we see an htc with an sdcard
HTC Cons:
Size. phone is huge im 6'4" with big hands and i can barely reach everything i need to. But it is basically a two hand device for the majority of people
Camera doesnt have OIS and only a 4 up i have never been a big fan of the whole up movement and dont think the pictures are terrible but not as good as others (aka note 3, s4, etc)
Little features it lacks as well compared to note 3 would be s pen, multi windows, high screen sensitivity for use with gloves little things like that
Development. While the phone does have s-off, unlocked etc etc there is no roms for verizon you can use xposed all you want but no custom roms
Somewhere in the middle
Battery. While the battery life is great always lasted me a full day from when i get up til i go to bed would be nice if you could remove battery and replace with a charged one but not a huge deal
Note 3 time....Pros:
Screen size and ppi while it is not as bright as htc one max it does have like a 13 ppi higher not a big deal here though lol
Removable battery and sdcard, nice to have both and battery lasts just as well as htc one max
Camera the 13mp shooter does better then htc i think and also 4k video not available on any other device
Little features as mentioned above. s pen, multi windows, high screen sensitivity for use with gloves, ambient temp/humidity sensor little things like that are nice to have especially now in the winter lol
Development (for me at least) i have developer edition so i have unlocked bootloader and full recovery and access to tmobile and verizon roms and kernels. Now the verizon retail does have safestrap and multiple roms to choose from
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Speaker. I will be honest it straight up sucks! worst i have ever heard i think my first android phone the droid x was better it is awful and after hearing htc one and one max they ruin you lol
Signal. wifi is always giving you connection unstable and bogs down. lte isnt terrible but isnt as good as previous s4 and htc one of course
Somewhere in the middle
Touchwiz ui not a diehard fan of it like i am sense but very nicely done
Build quality. not bad at all but not quite up to par with htc one and one max. fake leather back isnt bad but black does feel better then white.
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why dont you just go to a sprint store and look at the 2 yourself?
I never understand why people don't just do things on their own and make up their own minds...
Asking this question in a htc max thread will obviously get you people who say they love this phone, so not sure what you expect to accomplish by asking this here...
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why dont you just go to a sprint store and look at the 2 yourself?
I never understand why people don't just do things on their own and make up their own minds...
Asking this question in a htc max thread will obviously get you people who say they love this phone, so not sure what you expect to accomplish by asking this here...
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I posted in the Moto X and Note III forums as well. I am going to the Sprint store today.
I asked for opinions of people that have used the phone for an extended period of time.
@oneandroidnut nice post thanks
i would still suggest not adding the size as a con.. its the size which is a pro for this device, ppl who buy the device majorly love big screens. Screen is a turn off for me with saturated colors, that's again personal like the size.
and the camera, i won't say its the best camera, however, it is the best usable camera practically. Low light pic's blow out any other phone and due to the bigger size of the phone, users hold the phone real solid before taking the pic resulting in a better picture without OIS. Zoe/Highlight + themes + music = beautiful stuff in Sense 5.5
development is slow to start off, but HTC seems to do a better job than Samsung at the stock, which counts for stock users
S-pen & other gimmicks are genuine feature that is not there on the MAX however S-Pen is not useful for me and many other note users who have migrated from Samsung.
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@oneandroidnut nice post thanks
i would still suggest not adding the size as a con.. its the size which is a pro for this device, ppl who buy the device majorly love big screens. Screen is a turn off for me with saturated colors, that's again personal like the size.
and the camera, i won't say its the best camera, however, it is the best usable camera practically. Low light pic's blow out any other phone and due to the bigger size of the phone, users hold the phone real solid before taking the pic resulting in a better picture without OIS. Zoe/Highlight + themes + music = beautiful stuff in Sense 5.5
development is slow to start off, but HTC seems to do a better job than Samsung at the stock, which counts for stock users
S-pen & other gimmicks are genuine feature that is not there on the MAX however S-Pen is not useful for me and many other note users who have migrated from Samsung.
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i agree that i like the size but phone will way to big for the majority of people. and the screen has the best colors of any display to me. the amoled samsung are the over saturated ones.
camera is better in low light but thats about it. my note 3 are sharper and better for just normal light photos.
we will see i hope development picks up on one max i could use a custom rom or two
while i may not need it, it is nice to have. i can use note 3 with s pen if my hands are all nasty, if i have gloves on, etc etc while max or others i cannot. and trust me multi window is nice and not a gimmick
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i agree that i like the size but phone will way to big for the majority of people. and the screen has the best colors of any display to me. the amoled samsung are the over saturated ones.
camera is better in low light but thats about it. my note 3 are sharper and better for just normal light photos.
we will see i hope development picks up on one max i could use a custom rom or two
while i may not need it, it is nice to have. i can use note 3 with s pen if my hands are all nasty, if i have gloves on, etc etc while max or others i cannot. and trust me multi window is nice and not a gimmick
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i agree multiwindow and Halo type features are productive.
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i agree multiwindow and Halo type features are productive.
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I prefer venom small apps and venom pie myself...
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I prefer venom small apps and venom pie myself...
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we await that luxury mate :fingers-crossed:
I meant apps like those which help use more real estate/improve productivity.
Can you do this on max?
S pen is nice at times too lol I'm using now
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Can you do this on max?
S pen is nice at times too lol I'm using now
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I can :silly:
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I can :silly:
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HAHA verizon one max cant
oneandroidnut said:
HAHA verizon one max cant
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Why is that so?
pradeepvizz said:
Why is that so?
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no roms for it. how is that done??