So guys i recently received ny new phone and have already started making the videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5sYpj03Lew&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This is the camera comparison
See the gaming comparison also if you want to
I love this phone too much more comparisons coming soon
Just stay tuned with me and batakang.com
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therazrguy said:
So guys i recently received ny new phone and have already started making the videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5sYpj03Lew&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This is the camera comparison
See the gaming comparison also if you want to
I love this phone too much more comparisons coming soon
Just stay tuned with me and batakang.com
Visit my channel on youtube
youtube.com/Therazrguy
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Nice! Is that the Intel powered RAZR? What really struck me was how much nicer the sound was, which is why I bought Moto phones in the first place: great microphone!
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Wow! Can you do an outgoing call quality comparison? Just read a paragraph into voicemail on each phone and then play back the voicemails.
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Nice! Is that the Intel powered RAZR? What really struck me was how much nicer the sound was, which is why I bought Moto phones in the first place: great microphone!
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Wow! Can you do an outgoing call quality comparison? Just read a paragraph into voicemail on each phone and then play back the voicemails.
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Yes this the intel powered device, and I have made the multi tasking comparison it may interest you!
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I am just curious as to what all the differences are between the two phones. (Perferably the T-Mobile versions). Back when it came out, I had the Vibrant and upgraded to the galaxy s2 a few months ago.. Definitely a major and much needed upgrade. Now I am using T-Mobile Monthly 4G and am having a tough time deciding if it is worth paying full price for the S3 or if I should just keep my S2. I love my S2, but I am always ready for the "latest & greatest". I am hoping to get somewhat of a list of the differences.
it's shinier
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on a serious note, the search feature works quite good, as you can see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639560
Even i had the same dillema
Just upgraded from an s2 to an s3...have kept both the phone but gotta say that even though the s2 was the best phone i ever used...the s3 is simply amazing...with CM9 on the phone its just amazing..performance wise...all my apps run the same...however web browsing is amazingly fast and the pix-elation of the s2 is nowhere...things look much crisper...[however not as much as the iPhone-but we are leaders not followers].....multitasking is just amazing....ram is lesser by like 80 MB and i dunno if this will create issues on the new android coming august but overall worth a buy
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and yes it is shiny and slippery as well
Bigger better brighter .
Worth the upgrade yes if you can afford it .
jje
Here is a specification comparison: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4238&idPhone2=3621
It looks like the special edition version supports the new Google Daydream VR. Articles I've read said the phone is certified to support it. I guess it has vulkan and open CL 3.2. For $79 I'll check it out.
://www.google.com/amp/amp.androidcentral.com/google-reveals-hardware-requirements-daydream
pacattack81 said:
It looks like the special edition version supports the new Google Daydream VR. Articles I've read said the phone is certified to support it. I guess it has vulkan and open CL 3.2. For $79 I'll check it out.
://www.google.com/amp/amp.androidcentral.com/google-reveals-hardware-requirements-daydream
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The play store says my device isn't supported so I downloaded the app from another site. However I get an error parsing file while trying to install. So I guess it's not supported just yet? What do you guys think?
pacattack81 said:
It looks like the special edition version supports the new Google Daydream VR. Articles I've read said the phone is certified to support it. I guess it has vulkan and open CL 3.2. For $79 I'll check it out.
://www.google.com/amp/amp.androidcentral.com/google-reveals-hardware-requirements-daydream
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I would bet that the SD820 version supports it to. I say this as they are essentially the same chip. They have the same architecture and the same GPU, the only difference is the SD821 is just overclocked. And since the pixel XL has the SD821 but then downclocked it to SD820 speeds, I really don't see how there is a difference between the two. They shouldnt be able to say the Pixel has the SDp821 when they reversed everything that makes it the SD821, but that is the problem of the Pixel owners who just blindly purchased like iPhone users do.
The only thing we have to wait for is the nougat update.
I have the special edition btw.
Blues-n-Blazin said:
I would bet that the SD820 version supports it to. I say this as they are essentially the same chip. They have the same architecture and the same GPU, the only difference is the SD821 is just overclocked. And since the pixel XL has the SD821 but then downclocked it to SD820 speeds, I really don't see how there is a difference between the two. They shouldnt be able to say the Pixel has the SDp821 when they reversed everything that makes it the SD821, but that is the problem of the Pixel owners who just blindly purchased like iPhone users do.
The only thing we have to wait for is the nougat update.
I have the special edition btw.
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The article below says it should work. Do you think I can't download the app is because we're not on Android 7.0 Nougat?
http://www.ibtimes.com/google-finally-reveals-hardware-software-requirements-daydream-vr-2444393
The requirements might also irk a lot of users who’ve already bought a flagship smartphone for 2016. The Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge for example are not Daydream-ready despite having Vulkan support, as pointed out by Android Authority. Right now, the only phones that are truly Daydream VR capable are Google’s own Pixel and Pixel XL phones and the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe.
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The article below says it should work. Do you think I can't download the app is because we're not on Android 7.0 Nougat?
http://www.ibtimes.com/google-finally-reveals-hardware-software-requirements-daydream-vr-2444393
The requirements might also irk a lot of users whoâ??ve already bought a flagship smartphone for 2016. The Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge for example are not Daydream-ready despite having Vulkan support, as pointed out by Android Authority. Right now, the only phones that are truly Daydream VR capable are Googleâ??s own Pixel and Pixel XL phones and the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe.
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Yeah Nougat is supposed to be a requirement for Daydream VR. Also the ZTE Axon 7 is supposed to be Daydream ready as well.
Blues-n-Blazin said:
Yeah Nougat is supposed to be a requirement for Daydream VR. Also the ZTE Axon 7 is supposed to be Daydream ready as well.
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That sucks. It will probably be a long time until we get the update to 7.0 so I guess I'll just return it
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That sucks. It will probably be a long time until we get the update to 7.0 so I guess I'll just return it
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We are supposed to get the update by January at the latest.
This indicates that it might be here even sooner, maybe very soon. Fingers crossed
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/zenfone-3-update/
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Here are the benchmark entries. The latest was posted November 4th and is for Android 7.0.
https://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?ben...=true&arch-ARM=true&arch-x86=true&base=device
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Comparing the test results of the SD820 Version being tested, they look identical to the results the pixel posted with their downclocked SD821, so I would definitely say we are close. I expect that we will see an update in December
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pacattack81 said:
That sucks. It will probably be a long time until we get the update to 7.0 so I guess I'll just return it
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If you have the special edition, I would hold onto it if I were you, as it seems the Nougat update is right around the corner and it is the best phone out, hands down.
Blues-n-Blazin said:
We are supposed to get the update by January at the latest.
This indicates that it might be here even sooner, maybe very soon. Fingers crossed
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/zenfone-3-update/
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Here are the benchmark entries. The latest was posted November 4th and is for Android 7.0.
https://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?ben...=true&arch-ARM=true&arch-x86=true&base=device
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Comparing the test results of the SD820 Version being tested, they look identical to the results the pixel posted with their downclocked SD821, so I would definitely say we are close. I expect that we will see an update in December
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If you have the special edition, I would hold onto it if I were you, as it seems the Nougat update is right around the corner and it is the best phone out, hands down.
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I get what you're saying. I didn't mean return the phone, I meant return the Daydream until it's compatible. I have my doubts it will be compatible when it gets Nougat.
Blues-n-Blazin said:
We are supposed to get the update by January at the latest.
This indicates that it might be here even sooner, maybe very soon. Fingers crossed
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/zenfone-3-update/
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Here are the benchmark entries. The latest was posted November 4th and is for Android 7.0.
https://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?ben...=true&arch-ARM=true&arch-x86=true&base=device
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Comparing the test results of the SD820 Version being tested, they look identical to the results the pixel posted with their downclocked SD821, so I would definitely say we are close. I expect that we will see an update in December
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If you have the special edition, I would hold onto it if I were you, as it seems the Nougat update is right around the corner and it is the best phone out, hands down.
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Oh by the way, when I was in the Verizon store checking out the Daydream VR, the sales rep was showing me his LG V20. We were comparing phones because he heard of the Zenfone 3 deluxe. I also had my Moto G4 with me and we put all 3 phones down on the table and by a huge margine the zenfone 3 deluxe had a better display. I guess it's the whole AMOLED vs IPS thing. Also, the V20 is known to have a more blueish screen. All 3 phones on their own have nice screens, but putting them side by side the comparison was laughable. The rep in the store was laughing and said OMG my phone looks like ****. For those of you still out there wondering what to do, hopefully this post helps you out.
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I get what you're saying. I didn't mean return the phone, I meant return the Daydream until it's compatible. I have my doubts it will be compatible when it gets Nougat.
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Oh okay, that makes sense. I would definitely return the headset. Especially since Asus' headset looks extremely high quality. And isn't the headset just for the phone to sit in and the remote is what connects to the phone or does that Google Daydream headset have sensors in it? How comfortable is it? The thing that worries me about it is that it looks like the phone isn't fully secure in it. How secure does that hold the phone? Can the phone jostle with a quick head movement?
And I think it won't be compatible until we get the full 7.1 update, but after that, I don't see why it wouldn't be compatible.
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pacattack81 said:
Oh by the way, when I was in the Verizon store checking out the Daydream VR, the sales rep was showing me his LG V20. We were comparing phones because he heard of the Zenfone 3 deluxe. I also had my Moto G4 with me and we put all 3 phones down on the table and by a huge margine the zenfone 3 deluxe had a better display. I guess it's the whole AMOLED vs IPS thing. Also, the V20 is known to have a more blueish screen. All 3 phones on their own have nice screens, but putting them side by side the comparison was laughable. The rep in the store was laughing and said OMG my phone looks like ****. For those of you still out there wondering what to do, hopefully this post helps you out.
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That is awesome to hear about the screen. AMOLED destroys IPS. It is crazy to need a QHD screen on phones, though I expect that would've been nice for our phone when Daydream does come available. Oh well, 960x1080 per eye should look just fine. No matter how close I look at this phone, I can't see any pixelation on edges of objects. Perhaps I should buy a magnifying glass and then try and see one, I expect that will show whether there will be a perceived VR difference.
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pacattack81 said:
I get what you're saying. I didn't mean return the phone, I meant return the Daydream until it's compatible. I have my doubts it will be compatible when it gets Nougat.
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Dude, check this out. Made me even more proud of my decision for the ZF3 Delude SE
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...ments-for-Daydream-compatible-devices_id87584
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Oh okay, that makes sense. I would definitely return the headset. Especially since Asus' headset looks extremely high quality. And isn't the headset just for the phone to sit in and the remote is what connects to the phone or does that Google Daydream headset have sensors in it? How comfortable is it? The thing that worries me about it is that it looks like the phone isn't fully secure in it. How secure does that hold the phone? Can the phone jostle with a quick head movement?
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It appeared secure and looked nice. It felt very light. If you've put on the Playstation VR you'll know what I mean. I didn't actually strap it on, I just held it up to my face for a few minutes, but it seemed like it would be comfortable. The experience seemed good enough for just $79.
I wonder why they said the SD820 couldn't support VR. Besides the slightly lower clock speed, everything else on both processors are the same right? Same cores, just slower? Anyways, even if Qualcomm does say the 820 won't work with Daydream, I would still go out on a limb and say it will work just fine. This is with the evidence of the Pixel and Pixel XL both being underclocked to which makes it prettyuch the same as a SD820 as seen on the benchmarks.
If we have the SD821, how come we need to have Android 7.0 for Google Daydream to work?
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If we have the SD821, how come we need to have Android 7.0 for Google Daydream to work?
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Android 6.0 MM does not have the new Vulcan API that was released with Android 7.0 (Nougat). You could probably get Daydream VR and use it as an Overpriced, but good looking, Google Cardboard and wait until we get 7.0 on the Deluxe SE. But that would be taking a chance on them putting 7.0 on our phone, even if their is a hint of it coming to the phone (links above).
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Android 6.0 MM does not have the new Vulcan API that was released with Android 7.0 (Nougat). You could probably get Daydream VR and use it as an Overpriced, but good looking, Google Cardboard and wait until we get 7.0 on the Deluxe SE. But that would be taking a chance on them putting 7.0 on our phone, even if their is a hint of it coming to the phone (links above).
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That's what I thought until I came across an article that says the Nvidia shield with 6.0 has vulkan API. So maybe it's not just the Android 7.0 from preventing this phone from working with Daydream.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.andr...dated-android-601-vulkan-graphics-api-support
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That's what I thought until I came across an article that says the Nvidia shield with 6.0 has vulkan API. So maybe it's not just the Android 7.0 from preventing this phone from working with Daydream.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.andr...dated-android-601-vulkan-graphics-api-support
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Any device that is running a Nvidia SoC has the Vulkan API built into them because of the resources needed for the built in GPU if I remember correctly due to having a Shield Portable with 5.0 and it having Vulkan API in it.
Does anyone know if its possible to buy virtual reality for the M20X?
I never tried it and think it could be fun trying.
I cant find anything with my friend google.
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Does anyone know if its possible to buy virtual reality for the M20X?
I never tried it and think it could be fun trying.
I cant find anything with my friend google.
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I haven't tried with the 20 X though I do think the screen resolution might be a bit too low for a good experience. I had the note7 with the gear vr previously and after a few minutes use the pixcles were very obvious and that was a2k screen.
If you want to give it a try a Google cardboard would work there are sets for sale on Amazon that support phones of 7 inches.
I didn't find a nice moulded headset that would support the 20x though if I do find any I will update you
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Also that I'm aware the 20x isn't Google daydream compatible, though I think there might be ways of forcing it to work
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I haven't tried with the 20 X though I do think the screen resolution might be a bit too low for a good experience. I had the note7 with the gear vr previously and after a few minutes use the pixcles were very obvious and that was a2k screen.
If you want to give it a try a Google cardboard would work there are sets for sale on Amazon that support phones of 7 inches.
I didn't find a nice moulded headset that would support the 20x though if I do find any I will update you
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Also that I'm aware the 20x isn't Google daydream compatible, though I think there might be ways of forcing it to work
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Cant find any [emoji848]
www.xda-developers.com/force-daydream-vr-compatibility
Google cardboard 7 inch phone
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01IHHQPKQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_uf7mCbQGDB7FR
I'm planning to buy V30+(LG-H930DS) from Amazon India as a secondary device, mainly for music, wide angle camera and for the compactness.
How would you rate the dimensions and weight, is it recommended? also i see no mention of this particular model in any ROMs so far, does the ROMs labeled for H930 work on this?
evilbait said:
I'm planning to buy V30+(LG-H930DS) from Amazon India as a secondary device, mainly for music, wide angle camera and for the compactness.
How would you rate the dimensions and weight, is it recommended? also i see no mention of this particular model in any ROMs so far, does the ROMs labeled for H930 work on this?
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Yes. ROMs labelled 930 will work for Indian model.
Pls dont buy this phone now there are better phones in market.I bought this phone 25 days back fot 25k and i am regretting now as it is very laggy specially whn display resolution is set to max
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mannulko said:
Pls dont buy this phone now there are better phones in market.I bought this phone 25 days back fot 25k and i am regretting now as it is very laggy specially whn display resolution is set to max
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I have asus zenfone 5z which i bought for same price is much better
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mannulko said:
Pls dont buy this phone now there are better phones in market.I bought this phone 25 days back fot 25k and i am regretting now as it is very laggy specially whn display resolution is set to max
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I have asus zenfone 5z which i bought for same price is much better
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Also u wont get any accessories in local market and even online u wont get proper screen guard for this phone
evilbait said:
I'm planning to buy V30+(LG-H930DS) from Amazon India as a secondary device, mainly for music, wide angle camera and for the compactness.
How would you rate the dimensions and weight, is it recommended? also i see no mention of this particular model in any ROMs so far, does the ROMs labeled for H930 work on this?
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To each his own. I bought a second LG V30 due to the DAC which I assume is not available in any other phone. For music this is one of the best phones out there. If you're into rooting there are a few modules and a custom ROM (Boombox ROM) that improves the sound profiles.
I don't take pictures much so not able to comment on the wide angle camera.
For a secondary phone you cannot go wrong with this one.
Reg Dimensions: it is quite wide and tall and single hand operations require juggling the phone. But quite slim in thickness and feels premium.
So, a couple of days ago my Mi 8's display cracked and looks like I'l get the Mi 10 ASAP myself.
Unfortunately it's not out yet, so I'm stuck with a RN4 a friend lend to me.
Anyone else getting the Mi 10/Pro?
What's your thoughts?
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So, a couple of days ago my Mi 8's display cracked and looks like I'l get the Mi 10 ASAP myself.
Unfortunately it's not out yet, so I'm stuck with a RN4 a friend lend to me.
Anyone else getting the Mi 10/Pro?
What's your thoughts?
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I think 10 pro will be best.
I got the Mi 10 Pro. Upgraded from my Mi Mix 2S (also Pixel 3 XL). It's a fantastic device, easily the best phone I've ever used. It's quite heavy though but you will not be disappointed with this. Both the camera and battery life thus far have been phenomenal.
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I got the Mi 10 Pro. Upgraded from my Mi Mix 2S (also Pixel 3 XL). It's a fantastic device, easily the best phone I've ever used. It's quite heavy though but you will not be disappointed with this. Both the camera and battery life thus far have been phenomenal.
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Good to know man.
Where did you get it from and how much did it cost if that's not a lot to ask?
Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a reliable source to buy it from and it's definitely not available in my country yet.
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I think 10 pro will be best.
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Well yeah, but the specs aren't all that different IMO.
It'll all come down to the price I think.
nfsmw_gr said:
Good to know man.
Where did you get it from and how much did it cost if that's not a lot to ask?
Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a reliable source to buy it from and it's definitely not available in my country yet.
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I purchased from tradingshenzhen.com. At the time it was ~810USD but now it looks like the price has increased to 844USD. I got my phone 10 days after purchase. It took 7 days to actually ship but only 3 to reach me from China (used the DHL express ship method). I live in the United States
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nfsmw_gr said:
Well yeah, but the specs aren't all that different IMO.
It'll all come down to the price I think.
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To your point, I think I would have been fine with the regular Mi 10 as well, it all just comes down to camera in my opinion between the two. I plan to keep this phone for many years to come so I went with the Pro to ensure my camera can keep up with future generations of phones. But in terms of actual day to day usage, I agree the regular model is probably the more logical choice
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I got the Mi 10 Pro. Upgraded from my Mi Mix 2S (also Pixel 3 XL). It's a fantastic device, easily the best phone I've ever used. It's quite heavy though but you will not be disappointed with this. Both the camera and battery life thus far have been phenomenal.
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Yeah it's true
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skw5115 said:
I purchased from tradingshenzhen.com. At the time it was ~810USD but now it looks like the price has increased to 844USD. I got my phone 10 days after purchase. It took 7 days to actually ship but only 3 to reach me from China (used the DHL express ship method). I live in the United States
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To your point, I think I would have been fine with the regular Mi 10 as well, it all just comes down to camera in my opinion between the two. I plan to keep this phone for many years to come so I went with the Pro to ensure my camera can keep up with future generations of phones. But in terms of actual day to day usage, I agree the regular model is probably the more logical choice
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Speakers are better on pro and the screen is slightly better, you will get your money back on resale.
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Yeah it's true
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Speakers are better on pro and the screen is slightly better, you will get your money back on resale.
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Speakers are better?
Got any source for that?
Would be neat if it's correct.
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Speakers are better?
Got any source for that?
Would be neat if it's correct.
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all reviewers in YouTube have told this. Besides, camera is better in pro model. If you compare 8/256 variant of Mi 10 with 10 pro, the price difference isn't that much I think.
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all reviewers in YouTube have told this. Besides, camera is better in pro model. If you compare 8/256 variant of Mi 10 with 10 pro, the price difference isn't that much I think.
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We shall see about price when it hits gearbest banggood or my local retail stores.
I'll try to test it before buying if I'm patient enough.
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Yeah it's true
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Speakers are better on pro and the screen is slightly better, you will get your money back on resale.
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how can u say speakers are better on pro wen they shut have the same speakers
the only difference shut be camera an the charging speed
Stereo speakers can cost *
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how can u say speakers are better on pro wen they shut have the same speakers
the only difference shut be camera an the charging speed
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That doesn't say they are the same speakers, stereo speakers can cost $5 or 50,000
I upgrade to a Mi 10 Pro coming from a Mi 10
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how can u say speakers are better on pro wen they shut have the same speakers
the only difference shut be camera an the charging speed
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They are much better compared to the Mi 10.
Providing more "bass" and loudness