I have tried a lot of latest roms based on XXDLIB JB. For some instance if you open your settings and open a field in your settings, you can sense that when opening that menu, opening takes swiftly a sense of lag, slowness...Not always though, sometimes I open the menus in the settings and the run perfectly smooth. And just trying after a minute, it kinda slows.
I even tried using Custom kernels with that, yet same result. Is it a kind of defect from Samsung's touchwiz rom? Any solution?
Does turning off animations help at all?
Settings - Developer Options, set window animation scale, animator duration scale and transition animation scale to off.
This happens to ma, and is much more noticeable when i open up the dialer, with a second or two pause, with just the bluish bar at the top (where your keypad, logs, favourites and contacts are). I have animations down to .5, but the problem still persists when i have animations off...
The Samsung based DLIB ROMs that I tried all had crap performance compared to earlier ones, so I went back to a DLI4 I think it was (before moving on to AOKP).
Then its with everyone, this is probably my last samsung device. Im moving back to the Nexus line, I bought it for the sake of a better hardware, and here is ? Nothing that special. As well as that we're not capable of running AOSP roms smoothly because of their Exynos close-sourcing thing....What a shame....I have owned S1, S2, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus, and now the S III. Never used Their Touchwiz Rom anyway, always with AOSP; and now with the devs unable to do anything with Samsung's policy, it's better to own a Nexus.
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I have tried a lot of latest roms based on XXDLIB JB. For some instance if you open your settings and open a field in your settings, you can sense that when opening that menu, opening takes swiftly a sense of lag, slowness...Not always though, sometimes I open the menus in the settings and the run perfectly smooth. And just trying after a minute, it kinda slows.
I even tried using Custom kernels with that, yet same result. Is it a kind of defect from Samsung's touchwiz rom? Any solution?
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I feel you man. I feel you. On every single XXDLIB rom! No amount of flashing of kernels, mods, etc. fixes this! I also bought the S3 because of the wonderful hardware it offers, only to know after having bought it, that it's lacking proper support by Samsung.
I'm hearing a lot of gossip about an upcoming nexus. I to am feeling switchy-switchy I think? =\
But if it's LG, as the rumors suggest, I don't think I'll feel so 'switchy' anymore.
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I feel you man. I feel you. On every single XXDLIB rom! No amount of flashing of kernels, mods, etc. fixes this! I also bought the S3 because of the wonderful hardware it offers, only to know after having bought it, that it's lacking proper support by Samsung.
I'm hearing a lot of gossip about an upcoming nexus. I to am feeling switchy-switchy I think? =\
But if it's LG, as the rumors suggest, I don't think I'll feel so 'switchy' anymore.
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My bets are on HTC Nexus 5 A 5 inch rocking screen ! And a NEXUS ! That would amazing ! Purely amazing. Especially that I still suffer today from screen sizes ever since I held a Note, my S III 's 4.8 is average for me hehe ! I would SO LOVE a 5 Inch screen Phone!
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Hi people, I finished rooting my phone, I guess im rooted because I have an icon in apps called super user, i applied the lag fix, now what do I do next?
Man I guess ur in the same boat as quite a few of us. Sit back realx, wait for clockwork, wait for ROMS, and prepare to have fun when all of the previously mentioned items to start appearing and enjoy having the beat hardware available at this point.
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you chill.. till the next episode.
We're close. Hang tight.
Next big thing is the official Froyo update, I guess. This thing is already flying so fast, I can't wait to see how Froyo runs on it. I had installed KaosFroyo on my old Droid Eris, which made it actually functional again, but despite that ARMv6 CPU's (or was it ARMv5?) best effort while overclocked to 710MHz, along with the JIT compiler, it just could offer me the experience I was looking for.
Can't wait to see what people can do with the Fascinate, though at this level of performance, I will probably be less likely to install custom ROMS. Plus, the Fascinate ROM has some very nice bells and whistles, like the WiFi/BT/GPS/Airplane on/off buttons on the notification screen, which you don't get with a plain vanilla ROM. Now, if somebody comes out with a Gingerbread ROM, I just might be interested.
I've actually been quite disappointed with performance on this phone, with the exception of games. I'm coming from an Incredible which is dramatically snappier and generally stutter-free, despite the hardware not being as powerful. With the Fascinate I notice stuttering and lag every few screen changes, which is disappointing. I would say the lock screen stutters/lags 50% of the time, maybe more.
At this point, I'm blaming Samsung's software, so I'll try and wait for custom ROMs to resolve this.
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I've actually been quite disappointed with performance on this phone, with the exception of games. I'm coming from an Incredible which is dramatically snappier and generally stutter-free, despite the hardware not being as powerful. With the Fascinate I notice stuttering and lag every few screen changes, which is disappointing. I would say the lock screen stutters/lags 50% of the time, maybe more.
At this point, I'm blaming Samsung's software, so I'll try and wait for custom ROMs to resolve this.
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Have you tried switching to LauncherPro? That will give you a good speed boost overall. The lag fix should take care of the rest. I saw the same issues as you, which are all gone after these mods.
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Yes, I have been running Launcher Pro Plus from the outset. I am rooted and have applied the lag fix. The Incredible was still MUCH faster. Launcher Pro doesn't fix things like the notification bar or lock screen stuttering, or the soft keys not responding immediately after being pressed.
I am going to attempt to move Launcher Pro Plus into the system folder and remove TW-Launcher as one of the other members did to try and improve speed.
The lag fix actually made my phone run worse..installed it..and it ruins like a dream
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There is no need to move an app to system just to uninstall another one. I use ADW launcher and have uninstalled TW launcher. Keep in mind, when you do the uninstall you must have your other launcher set to default or bad things will happen. After the uninstall the phone will go into a FC fit. Simply reboot and all will be golden.
After removing TW launcher I haven't seen any lag, and I never applied the "lag fix".
Hope that helps
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Yeah I figured that was true, I just wanted to make Launcher Pro even more official by making it a SYSTEM app .
I'm going to give it a shot now. Here's to hoping I won't require an Odin restore of any kind...
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Hi people, I finished rooting my phone, I guess im rooted because I have an icon in apps called super user, i applied the lag fix, now what do I do next?
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REPLACE BING OR COURSE!
http://forum.androidcentral.com/fas...11-got-google-widget-works-now-bing-dead.html
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Yes, I have been running Launcher Pro Plus from the outset. I am rooted and have applied the lag fix. The Incredible was still MUCH faster. Launcher Pro doesn't fix things like the notification bar or lock screen stuttering, or the soft keys not responding immediately after being pressed.
I am going to attempt to move Launcher Pro Plus into the system folder and remove TW-Launcher as one of the other members did to try and improve speed.
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NOOO WAY!! The Incredible I had doesn't even compare to the speed I'm getting from my Fascinate! The Incredible I even had Froyo on it!! That thing was crap for me.. Lets not get on the topic of battery life...
The battery life on the Incredible was no good, I will agree with you on that. But, in terms of overall system smoothness (remember, NOT games or multimedia), the Fascinate (along with all of the other Galaxy S phones) doesn't play in the same league as the Incredible yet.
In addition to my personal encounters of sluggishness on 2 Fascinates, 1 Vibrant, 1 Captivate, and 1 Epic 4G, a few of the reviews I read mention this problem as well:
"More than once the phone locked up doing what we considered to be basic tasks, such as switching between apps or back to the homescreen. The Fascinate just seemed to stall out, often at the most inconvenient times, and we were left to simply wait until it sorted out whatever memory or processor issues it seemed to be having. Comparatively, a device like the Incredible rarely if ever stalled out on us, even during heavy use."
Engadget, September 7, 2010
"...That’s not to say Samsung has no room for improvement...we still observed a few of the periodic stalls that mar the overall user experience."
Slash Gear, September 7, 2010
"As much as I like the UI I did find some of the menu pops and screen flips to stutter a bit."
Geek, September 17, 2010
It's not like the phone is "slow", it just stutters and holds in places the Incredible never did, like the lock screen, or pulling down the notification bar, or when long pressing to get menus, even with the lag fix, TWLauncher removed, and no live wallpaper (which are tweaks I have done to ALL US flavors of this phone). Even flipping between home screens on the Incredible is noticeably faster than any Galaxy S when both phones have Launcher Pro installed. I think it's just a question of pickiness when it comes to the smoothness of animations. Again, I have noticed these issues on EVERY Galaxy S phone I have encountered, not a single, possibly defective, phone.
I really, really want this phone to live up to it's fancy hardware through development from the great people around here, which is why I will probably keep it as a sort of investment. Here's to hoping the community around it continues to grow!
My Incredible with Froyo does not compare to the Fascinate with Eclair (no lag fix, TW still present but running LauncherPro Plus).
It's not even close.
Battery life on the Fascinate is phenomenal compared to the Incredible. The only thing I miss on the Incredible is the support (duh, it's been out since April 29) and the optical trackpad (makes editing text much easier).
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Calkulin's_GT-P7510_HMJ37.UEKM7_TW
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*Theme has been tested.
I'm not responsible for anything that happens to your tab.
Installation
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Place downloaded theme on the root of the sd-card
Boot Into CWM Recovery
Make a nandroid backup
install Zip from SD-Card
Chose the zip you moved over
let it flash
reboot
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Bugs: Color of usb debugging needs to be fixed will do that soon sorry.
Report anything you see in the thread
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Downloads
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For Calkulin's_GT-P7510_HMJ37.UEKM7_TW Rom
Stock_Theme_withtw.zip
Screenshot is below.
Credit goes to
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Calkulin for the rom.
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In the screen shot the wifi is still touch wiz colored an so are the buttons
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Does this sort out the huge font in the notifications? If not, can you change that please?
this is just the a task bar theme for now will do more tonight, just wanted to release the taskbar theme since there were a few threads on it will do all the icons and have it done in a few days, also will do the notifications at some point in my bust week.
so far loving this theme, any chance that you will also change the clock and the settings page to look like stock honeycomb too?
Woohoo! Now I can update. I can't stand the TouchWiz theme, looks like I'm going backwards in technology.
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Woohoo! Now I can update. I can't stand the TouchWiz theme, looks like I'm going backwards in technology.
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Be careful as i dont believe the official tw upgrade is supported yet by this mod.
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so far loving this theme, any chance that you will also change the clock and the settings page to look like stock honeycomb too?
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The bar icons, the clock, and the settings page are probably the only things holding me back from sticking with the TW ROM.... I put Calkulin's deodex'd version a few days ago and was back to the vanilla 3.1 in a matter of 10 minutes! It really looks horrible and needs to be reverted!
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The bar icons, the clock, and the settings page are probably the only things holding me back from sticking with the TW ROM.... I put Calkulin's deodex'd version a few days ago and was back to the vanilla 3.1 in a matter of 10 minutes! It really looks horrible and needs to be reverted!
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So you're willing to give up all the speed and functionality improvements that touchwiz provides because of some icons and colors?
WTF?
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So you're willing to give up all the speed and functionality improvements that touchwiz provides because of some icons and colors?
WTF?
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I think it's humorous that people think there were so many improvements from ADDING stuff to the vanilla 3.1 that shipped with the 10.1.... show me 3 people who have had better Quadrant scores after adding a new UI, because I really didn't see it for the 10 minutes I had it on my Tab before going right back to my backed up stock ROM.
And yes, if I overclock my stock 3.1, why WOULDN'T I want to keep it over this silly UI upgrade???
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So you're willing to give up all the speed and functionality improvements that touchwiz provides because of some icons and colors?
WTF?
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I don't have a ton of apps on my tab, but I get better performance with stock Android than the TW update.
The only improvement I see is the browser. I can use dolphin to fix that, and the new look is very unappealing to me. I also get better home screen performance on standard honeycomb.
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I think it's humorous that people think there were so many improvements from ADDING stuff to the vanilla 3.1 that shipped with the 10.1.... show me 3 people who have had better Quadrant scores after adding a new UI, because I really didn't see it for the 10 minutes I had it on my Tab before going right back to my backed up stock ROM.
And yes, if I overclock my stock 3.1, why WOULDN'T I want to keep it over this silly UI upgrade???
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1. Stock quadrant scores are around 1500. Touchwiz quadrant scores are 2300.
2. With touchwiz, the galaxy tab 10.1 is now the only honeycomb tablet with no keyboard lag in the browser. Samsung fixed something in the webkit engine or something. Stock honeycomb on the galaxy tab 10.1 and every other tab in existence has the lag.
3. The samsung Widgets are fantastic.
The killer feature for me was fixing the browser lag. I can now finally type on sites like XDA without wanting to break my tab in half.
But the point at my previous post was that I was shocked that people who remove touchwiz because they dididnt like some icons and colors. This is a computer, not a fashion accessory. Did you buy a tablet to do stuff with it, or for it to look pretty?
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1. Stock quadrant scores are around 1500. Touchwiz quadrant scores are 2300.
2. With touchwiz, the galaxy tab 10.1 is now the only honeycomb tablet with no keyboard lag in the browser. Samsung fixed something in the webkit engine or something. Stock honeycomb on the galaxy tab 10.1 and every other tab in existence has the lag.
3. The samsung Widgets are fantastic.
The killer feature for me was fixing the browser lag. I can now finally type on sites like XDA without wanting to break my tab in half.
But the point at my previous post was that I was shocked that people who remove touchwiz because they dididnt like some icons and colors. This is a computer, not a fashion accessory. Did you buy a tablet to do stuff with it, or for it to look pretty?
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This is ridiculous, but since I'm bored, I'll play along.......
Prove it - saying Quadrant scores are X doesn't mean anything to me. I said that in the reply, but you just told me what you thought they were. I ran Quadrant on mine stock and it did 22XX, so I don't know where you're getting this 1500 score..... I got that with a deodex'd and OC'd Captivate, a single core PHONE.....
Two words (that have already been said above) - DOLPHIN BROSWER.... I don't use Dolphin because I really don't see any lag that everyone else is talking about. I have a 4GHz OC'd Quad Core PC, so it isn't like I don't know what a fast electronic device is.....
Widgets..... seriously? so THAT'S what's important on this list? You're talking about comparing this to a fashion accessory (which I agree it's not), and you're talking about widgets??? Really? This is NOT a computer, btw.... my Dell Inspiron Duo tablet IS a computer. A 10.1" touchscreen computer running dual boot Windows 7 and Android 2.2. THIS, however, is something that should work quickly, which I feel it really does already, and look attractive. If you didn't want something that looks attractive, you should have saved your money and bought a Transformer - cheaper looking screen, thicker and heavier device, and you can OC that thing and have all the widgets you like without having to worry about people "complaining" on here about this being a "fashion accessory"
And look at this, I'm not the only one who thinks so:
This update brought some new widgets called Live Panels along for the ride, and honestly, what can I say about them? They're widgets. They have the same look and feel of the other features in TouchWiz UX, but using them is purely optional. I opted to [stay] with the widgets that I was using prior to the update, as I found Live Panels to be much too large for my taste.
From an aesthetic aspect, one of the most drastic changes that came with this update is the Settings menu. It shed its sleek black-and-blue Honeycomb look for a coat of white and some new cartoon-y looking icons. Much like the updated Calendar and Email apps, it's not bad, just different.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...10-1-wi-fi-is-it-better-than-stock-honeycomb/
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They also say all the same things you were saying about the speed improvements and what not, but I'm not interested in making something function faster than it already is while losing the form - you're a car guy, it sounds like, so what if you junked up your Evo X while making it faster? You've already got a fast car, so why not making it look cheezy AND fast at the same time? Yeah, I wouldn't do that with either of my performance vehicles, I don't know many that would......
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This is ridiculous, but since I'm bored, I'll play along.......
Prove it - saying Quadrant scores are X doesn't mean anything to me. I said that in the reply, but you just told me what you thought they were. I ran Quadrant on mine stock and it did 22XX, so I don't know where you're getting this 1500 score..... I got that with a deodex'd and OC'd Captivate, a single core PHONE.....
Two words (that have already been said above) - DOLPHIN BROSWER.... I don't use Dolphin because I really don't see any lag that everyone else is talking about. I have a 4GHz OC'd Quad Core PC, so it isn't like I don't know what a fast electronic device is.....
Widgets..... seriously? so THAT'S what's important on this list? You're talking about comparing this to a fashion accessory (which I agree it's not), and you're talking about widgets??? Really? This is NOT a computer, btw.... my Dell Inspiron Duo tablet IS a computer. A 10.1" touchscreen computer running dual boot Windows 7 and Android 2.2. THIS, however, is something that should work quickly, which I feel it really does already, and look attractive. If you didn't want something that looks attractive, you should have saved your money and bought a Transformer - cheaper looking screen, thicker and heavier device, and you can OC that thing and have all the widgets you like without having to worry about people "complaining" on here about this being a "fashion accessory"
And look at this, I'm not the only one who thinks so:
They also say all the same things you were saying about the speed improvements and what not, but I'm not interested in making something function faster than it already is while losing the form - you're a car guy, it sounds like, so what if you junked up your Evo X while making it faster? You've already got a fast car, so why not making it look cheezy AND fast at the same time? Yeah, I wouldn't do that with either of my performance vehicles, I don't know many that would......
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1) The speed improvement on touchwiz is undeniable... I'm sorry, but Touchwiz is WAY faster and a hell of a lot less buggy. On stock 3.1 (again, right out of the box) I had my browser crash no less than 20 times during around and hour of browsing. It also soft booted 3 times during this period. None of this has happened on Touchwiz. I did not run any quadrant tests, but immediately after installing touchwiz I noticed the speed improvement. No scrolling/transition lag, etc.
2) Dolphin for Tab did not fix the typing lag on 3.1 - Right out of the box I installed it any tried it out. It lags as bad as the stock browser.
3) Why do you care if he like the widgets? If he loves the widgets, that is reason enough to go with Touchwiz
Not it may seem like I am defending Touchwiz. In fact, overall, I really dislike the changes. What I am saying is, touchwiz is, in fact, faster than stock honeycomb. However, the redesign is absolutely terrible. Honeycomb went from modern and sophisticated, to blocky and cartoonish. I would absolutely love the speed and bug improvements without the new UI. As much as I want to go back to stock 3.1, the bugs are forcing me to stay with touchwiz.
EDIT Just ran some benchmarks:
Stock 3.1 Honeycomb: 1448
3.1 Honeycomb Touchwiz: 2267
Like I said, Touchwiz is faster
+1 to better quadrant scores with TW. Stock was in 1500s, TW 2200s and TW plus pershoot's kernel hit 2800!
But seriously,can we get back to the thread title: stock theme for TW. Many including myself would find TW rom + stock theme the ideal for the moment.
I mean, with roms and themes and all, it is for each his own, and this thread is about stock theme for tw.
Hi guys,
I just bought my Xperia S two days ago outright and unlocked. ($484AUD from JB HI FI for you Aussies reading). My first smartphone was a Samsung Galaxy S back in 2010. I loved that phone - I flashed custom roms, customised the crap out of it, and all that. At the end of 2010, my company gave me an iPhone4 and I was required to use that exclusively - so I sold my Galaxy S on eBay. I've been using the iPhone4 ever since that point, but I missed my Android experience so much that I spent my money on the Xperia S just two days ago.
The reason I purchased the Xperia S is because I really dislike/despise Apple products, especially the iPhone.. Every time I looked at it I felt annoyed and disgusted by its lack of customisability and its lame user interface.
Having shared that with you, I'm having the following issue with the phone…
My graphics always seem to lag/chop/stutter when things are moving around. It's not fluid. This happens when:
• Swiping the lock icon to the right, on the homescreen. (it sorta micro-stutters at least once during the movement animation)
• When swiping through homescreens
• When scrolling up/down a menu (especially the settings menu in the browser).
• Scrolling or zooming in/out in the browser… its just not fluid at all, no matter how complex or basic the website is, flash or no flash.
It feels like CPU/GPU lag. Does anyone else have this issue? I'm pretty anal when it comes to seeing animations run smoothly so it's possible that it happens to all of you, but you just don’t perceive it or care about it -- or maybe its just my phone. I don’t know!
Also I notice that the touch responsiveness is delayed by about 100ms… Anyone else get that? (e.g. Load up the browser. Use your finger to swipe/scroll down the page, and see how there is a delay between when your finger moves and when the page moves.
I've read some people say that their browser runs "Buttery Smooth"… !! Mine is no where near smooth let buttery smooth!
I'm hoping that the coming ICS release will help with this issue, but I'm also surprised that I see no one else complaining about this graphics stuttering. I mean, my old Galaxy S in 2010 was smoother than this and it was only single-core at 1Ghz with 512 RAM.
Some technical details:
Batch: 12W19
Build: 6.0.A.3.73
I've uninstalled all the Sony bloatware that lets me uninstall.
I've tried without a live wallpaper
I've not tried any task killers.
I really like the quality of the screen and want to love the phone, but this speed/performance issue is really bumming me out ;/
So, do you 'xperience this too?
Thanks for your time,
Termus
Use it a few day and it'll stable than now! It's my experience with all Xperias like X10, Arc!
Or maybe try a factory reset and reboot the phone few times.
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Thanks guys, i'll give it some more time and reset it.
But i just wonder, is your browser experience nice and smooth? Maybe my hopes are too high, but i'd like to confirm them
Yes the browser and everything is smooth.
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Thanks guys, i'll give it some more time and reset it.
But i just wonder, is your browser experience nice and smooth? Maybe my hopes are too high, but i'd like to confirm them
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No mine is not, and I'm experiencing the same "all-around lag" that you see.
My device has locked bootloader (i'm waiting the ICS update to unlock it, especially coz I need to send it back to Sony due to the yellow tint display) and I hope ICS update will fix this horrible thing before the moment I'll choose to sell my device (really, I don't complain this things, coming from an early2011 SGS2).
PS. BTW I've got enough free ram to run everything smoothly, so it is not Sony-bloatware related.
Ok, while it's sad that you also experience this slowness it's good that someone else has 'fessed up to having it as well.
It makes me wonder... All of these devices are "made" the same, i.e. they have the same hardware. Why would some operate smoothly and others not? It's either that our devices are slow or the everyone else is in deep denial.
If the ICS update doesn't improve my handset's fluidity of graphics I'll probably sell it. I want my Android experience to be silky smooth, and if that's not possible yet, i'll just wait!
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Ok, while it's sad that you also experience this slowness it's good that someone else has 'fessed up to having it as well.
It makes me wonder... All of these devices are "made" the same, i.e. they have the same hardware. Why would some operate smoothly and others not? It's either that our devices are slow or the everyone else is in deep denial.
If the ICS update doesn't improve my handset's fluidity of graphics I'll probably sell it. I want my Android experience to be silky smooth, and if that's not possible yet, i'll just wait!
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This. Or they come from really lagghish terminals so we could have different ideas of what "smooth" could mean, but generally 70% doesn't admit the thing they bought is not as good as they think.
Maybe because you came from an iPhone which has pretty smooth animations compared to some Android phones. My iPod Touch feels slightly smoother than my Xperia S, albeit the slower scrolling.
i kinda forgot bout the stock rom experience, but i surely remember there's no such thing as the lockscreen's slider lag and touch responsiveness is delayed (and 100 ms? really? do you, yourself, have some measurement devices or something?)
now im in doomkernel and ka05.2 sspeed and all the things that u mentioned didnt happened. well, i maybe come from very-very-very-slow phone (LG GT540), but even my friend who has iphone 4s for awhile said that the animations and the smoothness in my phone (XS, ofc) is really smooth, almost the same as his iphone. even with some widgets here and there (his iphone doesnt have widgets, well duh!) and i feel the same too (but what do i know right?)
and he even likes it better browsing with phone rather than his iphone. though i gotta admit than i use the stock browser rarely, i usually use opera mini because of my crappy mobile network's speed. but they both works really well and smooth (pinching, zooming, scrolling)
but though i agree that smoothness is something that cant be measured, it's really objective thing, and maybe my friend just said that because of his kindness to not insult me or something, idk and i dont really care, for me it's just as smooth as his iphone.
so my verdict: your stock rom has issues (though most unlikely), the custom rom has some kind improvement (well ofc, but to have even lag in lockscreen it's kinda really bad for stock rom), there are some apps that make that lags in your rom, or you have faulty phone, you came from the future where everything is at light speed.
do u see the ics leaked video for XS? and how bout your gaming 'xperience?
Try installing MyPhoneExplorer on the phone and let the MyPhoneExplorer PC client monitor the cpu usage in realtime.
so when the lag happend, look at the pc monitor. does the cpu usage spike to 100%?
I need to know how noticeable it is?
I'm moving to a GS3 from a GNexus. Naturally, I'd prefer AOKP/CM type ROMs but I've been reading about the stuttering issue because of Samsung not providing updated sources for some of its hardware which prevents devs from fixing these issues.
How/when is the stuttering noticeable?
I've used Samsung ROMs and samsung-based custom ROMs, when I moved to an AOSP ROM my phone felt incredibly faster and more responsive (less stuttering), but you lose some Samsung features (like shaking your phone, resting your palm on it, double tapping on top, looking-at-screen detection, etc).
I know Cyanogenmod devs have trouble with the intl GS3, but I don't know about other AOSP ROMs...
I'm running Slim(aosp) and minimal stutter if any, very fast, so I'm happy
Yeah but how is it compared to TW custom ROMs?
less stutter, minimal wait for contacts to open faster all round, I run both with dual boot, best of both worlds
I wonder why the devs make such a huge deal outta this then :s
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I wonder why the devs make such a huge deal outta this then :s
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Because there are also some minor radio bugs, that need to be fixed. Nothing terrible, but sometimes annoying. I.e. Me in the car, in the middle of a conversation, boom! Phone goes dead, no signal. It gets annoying but it is also rare..
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
Cyanogenmodded very skankily via XDA app. Skanky, indeed
So I've seen this word thrown around a lot since switching to Android from my old iPhail 3G (yes, I actually lived with that horrible laggy device for ~4 years) and in comparisons between Android and iOS (which I'm not trying to get into here). I've also read lots of people saying Jelly Bean was supposed to be 'snappier' compared to ICS. I wasn't sure if they were referring to lag as in fps or a delay in reaction. My Note II is currently stock 4.1.1, but I'm definitely noticing some delay in games, such as Air Hockey, between moving my finger on the screen and the paddle moving in the game, for example. It's quite noticeable in apps like Maps too. I had the Galaxy S III for a short time before I decided I wanted the bigger (and better specs) Note II, but not long enough to make any comparisons. My question is, is there a way to increase the snappyness without doing anything too dramatic, such as flashing a different ROM, etc. Or will a ROM like beanstown106's Jelly Beans help? Or is this a problem that is inherently part of Android operating system/devices? Thanks in advance.
marcmy said:
will a ROM like beanstown106's Jelly Beans help? .
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I can tell you that flashing beans ROM made absolutely no speed difference whatever over my previous debloated/rooted stock ROM (and I didn't really expect it to)
One thing is, it is noticeably laggy when running the inferno galaxy live wallpaper, but pretty much instant response with regular WP.
The "snappieness" in individual apps is really down to the app itself combined with phone specs.
Poorly coded apps may have lag.
High end apps may push the hardware harder and cause lag.
I would bet its mostly the former when it comes to the Note 2.
Samsung also put touchwiz on these phones, which does affect overall performance to some degree. If we get the ability to remove much of it in favor of AOSP versions, then it should perform a little better overall.
The differences between iPhones and Android... is that Apple focuses on user interaction over all other things. So this means they will sacrifice performance in other areas to ensure that user interactions are kept smooth, or at least keep the appearance of smoothness. For example, iOS will stop loading web pages when you start to scroll the screen, so the CPU can focus on smooth scrolling. This means that the page will never finish loading if you keep scrolling around on the screen. Android does not do this or these kind of things. The new "project butter" implemented in JB is designed to help smooth out the interface and user interactions, without sacrificing performance in other areas. Its not perfect though, and it requires good specs and more power than the iOS way of "one thing at a time".
Great response ty very much. I guess next question is will we be able to get those AOSP versions later on or are we SOL in that department?
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Depends on which version you have.
I am on Verizon, so my device is locked down, other versions are not.
This device is also unique in the fact it has a Wacom stylus and functionality, so that must be considered.
Often times, you can swap things out without too much issue. AOSP lockscreen instead of touchwiz lockscreen... AOSP launcher instead of touchwiz launcher... without too much trouble. Problem is, underneath the ROM is still touchwiz... or at least that is how it worked on HTC Sense phones. (this is my first touchwiz device) HTC do a lot of work to the underlying framework which meant wholesale replacement of everything wasn't possible, so it depends on how much Samsung changed Android to put touchwiz on it.
Basically they "DE-Touchwiz" the phone and do some background tweaks for added performance, plus they "de-bloat the ROM. (they remove all the unnecessary crap that the carriers and Samsung put in, that served them some benefit, but not benefit the users) The advantage of this method is that you can keep much of the functionality of the stylus.
Another method is to use a ROM based on stock, but tweaked and de-bloated. This usually retains all the functionality of the device as it came out of the box... but the performance is usually only a little better than stock, and less than one where the AOSP stuff has been put in. This method does allow you to keep most of the stylus functionality.
As far as straight up custom ROMs based on AOSP...
They usually offer the best performance for a given device, having no extra crap, and being tweaked for performance... But you will lose most if not all the stylus functionality. Some ROMs may have limited stylus functionality, but they have to put that in themselves, meaning more work on their part.
As far as performance gains... I can only speak of HTC Sense devices with sureness. Where pure AOSP usually had significant improvements to performance/battery life. (mostly due to how extensive Sense is, touchwiz may be better in this regaurd) "De-sensed" ROMs where they removed all of the Sense stuff they could and replaced with AOSP equivalents, had good performance increases. "De-bloated" and tweaked but otherwise stock ROMs had some improvement.
But as was said, the stylus functionality is something that must be considered when looking at ROMs
After using AOSP ROMs quite extensively in both of my two Galaxy 3s, I have no desire whatever to run those type ROMs in my Note 2 (and lose things like pen functionality).
I could never see any performance difference whatever (except maybe in useless benchmarks) between a completely debloated TW ROM with all the features working perfectly and a buggy AOSP ROM in my G3s (and I tried every G3 ROM available at least twice).
Posters where constantly claiming this ROM is PERFECT when discussing any AOSP ROM but two posts later someone else would post "can anybody get NFL Mobile to work??" The next post would say "that has never worked in AOSP but I never use it anyway so who cares........"
Good call. I'd rather keep most functionality
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You could go into a store and try some of those games out on a DNA. Hopefully some are free so you don't have to put your google account in the play store and then clear the data. The DNA's gpu is much faster. It sounds like it's the app coding though. I don't have any input lag with on screen buttons playing GTA or N64oid, and emulators are pretty heavy on the processor.