[Q] Google now, battery monster? - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all,
I have a question for you all:
I have flashed a new rom today and have decided to NOT activate Google Now, and (after a few hours only), I seem to see a much better battery use?
Is it possible that this app, being monitoring so much all the time hoggs the battery quite a lot?
So, placebo effect or not?

Certainly possible I suppose, but I haven't noticed it drawing a significant amount of juice on my S3 or my Note 2.
I've had Now running in the background on my Note 2 for over 9 hours and the battery is still at 92% (minimal usage, just on WiFi), and while I'm getting tired of being notified about the ManU match, it doesn't seem to be drawing an inordinate about of power to run.
Is the new ROM you flashed using a different kernel or a newer revision of your previous kernel? In my experience, that's been the biggest factor in terms of power consumption.

devonck said:
Certainly possible I suppose, but I haven't noticed it drawing a significant amount of juice on my S3 or my Note 2.
I've had Now running in the background on my Note 2 for over 9 hours and the battery is still at 92% (minimal usage, just on WiFi), and while I'm getting tired of being notified about the ManU match, it doesn't seem to be drawing an inordinate about of power to run.
Is the new ROM you flashed using a different kernel or a newer revision of your previous kernel? In my experience, that's been the biggest factor in terms of power consumption.
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Well, I am using temasek's CM10 Kang (70 I believe, latest anyway)
and with the kernel that came with it.
I ve tried other AOSP kernel, but no boot at all, so...
What I think is that XXDLIB modem does has a noticeable effect on good reception over here, so maybe that s the factor here?

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Battery life improvements in ICS

Hey guys,
Since so much information is thrown around every day about battery life and dual core smartphones, I have a simple question that needs answering (probably a simple answer but I want actual clarification). Will dual core smartphone users see improved battery life performance in ICS? I thought this would be implemented in GB, but I still notice my battery tends to drain at a quick pace on medium use (I don't get the idle drain others do).
Thanks for the responses!
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
TheMan0790 said:
Hey guys,
Since so much information is thrown around every day about battery life and dual core smartphones, I have a simple question that needs answering (probably a simple answer but I want actual clarification). Will dual core smartphone users see improved battery life performance in ICS? I thought this would be implemented in GB, but I still notice my battery tends to drain at a quick pace on medium use (I don't get the idle drain others do).
Thanks for the responses!
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
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I don't see what a new version of OS would have to do with battery life.
What depends on the OS, is downclocking the CPU and GPU depending on hardware lock, and this is done already in Gingerbread.
At the moment you can get additional battery life using freezing bloat, using custom kernel with battery saving profiles and disabling data when you aren't using it.
I am having great battery life on my Atrix (2 days of solid use).
xploited said:
I don't see what a new version of OS would have to do with battery life.
What depends on the OS, is downclocking the CPU and GPU depending on hardware lock, and this is done already in Gingerbread.
At the moment you can get additional battery life using freezing bloat, using custom kernel with battery saving profiles and disabling data when you aren't using it.
I am having great battery life on my Atrix (2 days of solid use).
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What do you mean by SOLID use? How long was your screen on? Are you on 4g? What apps do you run.. two days of minimal use I am assuming...
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What do you mean by SOLID use? How long was your screen on? Are you on 4g? What apps do you run.. two days of minimal use I am assuming...
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Nope, not minimal use.
Wifi on most of the time. Screen on for 4 hours. Music player on for 5 hours. Occasional GPS usage.

[Q] SGS 3 battery drain (system_server)

Dear Community, I got a huge problem regarding battery drain.
My Android System soaks a huge amount of battery, even so much, that my phone is using more energy than the charger provides.
This happens on XperianZe 0.9.8 ROM (with stock kernel) as well as the new stock ROM (XXEMC2) and I got no clue what I may actually do?
Any suggestions?
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Elixir2 shows that com.sec.android.providers.downloads (15,74% CPU usage) and security providers (com.android.providers.security, android, com.google.android.backup and com.android.providers.settings) (26,75% CPU) seem to be the main problems.
Play store is using 5% and the other processes are between 0 and ~2-3 percent....
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Even if I stop these two the phone itself is charging quite slowly and if I start Ingress it slowly discharges...
Thanks in advance,
tuxified
tuxified said:
Dear Community, I got a huge problem regarding battery drain.
My Android System soaks a huge amount of battery, even so much, that my phone is using more energy than the charger provides.
This happens on XperianZe 0.9.8 ROM (with stock kernel) as well as the new stock ROM (XXEMC2) and I got no clue what I may actually do?
Any suggestions?
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Elixir2 shows that com.sec.android.providers.downloads (15,74% CPU usage) and security providers (com.android.providers.security, android, com.google.android.backup and com.android.providers.settings) (26,75% CPU) seem to be the main problems.
Play store is using 5% and the other processes are between 0 and ~2-3 percent....
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Even if I stop these two the phone itself is charging quite slowly and if I start Ingress it slowly discharges...
Thanks in advance,
tuxified
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Try a different kernel with that ROM...let us know...
The problem itself still remains, I did also do a clean install of XperianZe 0.9.8 again (this time with Boeffla kernel instead of stock one).
And Elixir still shows the same processes as cpu usage hungry, but in difference from the stock kernel the phone charges while running Ingress, if I end these two processes.
But why do these 2 need so much CPU power?
Has anybody got an idea how to fix this malfunction?
I found out, what it actually has been...
The original cable seems to be defective, another cable works just fine.

[Q] Why the battery difference between stock android and Samsung rooms?

Self explanatory really, I much prefer having stock android on my s3 but the battery is much worse compared to roms running on a Samsung base.
I would like to know if this happens to everyone and the reason behind it since I've read the "nexus edition" S4 actually has better battery results than the Samsung variant.
Many thanks
Dario777 said:
Self explanatory really, I much prefer having stock android on my s3 but the battery is much worse compared to roms running on a Samsung base.
I would like to know if this happens to everyone and the reason behind it since I've read the "nexus edition" S4 actually has better battery results than the Samsung variant.
Many thanks
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Samsung includes a lot of battery saving technology in their roms but it is closed source so developers cannot access it.
I run a custom Samsung ROM and an AOSP - battery isn't noticeably different. I also use Greenify and I turn off auto brightness (run it about 50%) & blocki9ng mode. Overnight I see my battery drop by between 3% & 5%. 15 hours of normal use sees maybe 30 - 45% battery depending on how much game versus phone/SMS.
Best battery so far is 54 hours and at 28% - I was in Melbourne via train and forgot my charger. I know it is the TYPE of use that matters but I was making/receiving calls and spent about 45 mins as hotspot to the wife's laptop.
I run GoogyMax, v6.1 Purelook HD ROM and SlimBean ROM v 7. Haven't found anything not working, haven't got FC's.
Both ROM's installed on full wipe.

[Q] battery usage in 4.3 samsung based roms

My issue with Samsung 4,3 based roms is this:
Badass battery monitor always shows kernel on top of my battery usage charts. Normally on 4.1.2 based roms the kernel would run for about 12-15 minutes over the course of battery being used form 100 to about 10 % but on 4.3 on the same usage kernel is runnning for close to an hour. Also Android OS always tops my battery drainage charts irrespective of what kernel plus rom I use.
With the same set of apps I had pretty good battery life on 4.1.2 but not so good on 4.3.
BBS also does not show any weird behavior.
Any pointers as to how I can prevent kernel usage from being so high?
pulley06 said:
My issue with Samsung 4,3 based roms is this:
Badass battery monitor always shows kernel on top of my battery usage charts. Normally on 4.1.2 based roms the kernel would run for about 12-15 minutes over the course of battery being used form 100 to about 10 % but on 4.3 on the same usage kernel is runnning for close to an hour. Also Android OS always tops my battery drainage charts irrespective of what kernel plus rom I use.
With the same set of apps I had pretty good battery life on 4.1.2 but not so good on 4.3.
BBS also does not show any weird behavior.
Any pointers as to how I can prevent kernel usage from being so high?
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First of all- what build versions / kernels did you use? I'm running Neatrom's NA5 version with stock kernel and it seems to have the best battery life i've ever seen (even compared to 4.1.2 roms) (it can be better using Boeffla kernel, but for me its more than enough)
Second- try to set off 'Scanning always available' in wifi settings, and look for 'location settings' in Google Settings app- they cause a huge battery usage
amirTor said:
First of all- what build versions / kernels did you use? I'm running Neatrom's NA5 version with stock kernel and it seems to have the best battery life i've ever seen (even compared to 4.1.2 roms) (it can be better using Boeffla kernel, but for me its more than enough)
Second- try to set off 'Scanning always available' in wifi settings, and look for 'location settings' in Google Settings app- they cause a huge battery usage
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I used omega v54/55 as well as the last 2 versions of neat rom. Currently using the NA5 one. On Stock kernel. Tried boeffla as well.
Wifi Scanning off. and no location services as well.
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This may look like a silly question, but you have playing around with ROMs istalling few daily, or you've let them settle. I used to change them few times/hour, but now I am really happy with SmartDroid Lite v5 (ex ZDroid). It really is a difference compared to when I instlled it 3 days ago. First, it was like 7-10% dropped in the first night. Last night I got to bet with 43% (23PM) and woke up with 43% (8AM). I never believed the others when they said that. BTW, I am using latest AGNi Stock 3.5.1 kernel.

Idle drain issues on custom ROMs

Hello all,
I tried all the custom ROMs available and they seem to have a high idle drain. I am loosing usually 10-20% per day which is extremely high in my opinion.
The Paranoid Android and Arter97's software collection seems to be slightly better but that is Android Pie based.
Is Android 10 the actual problem for the drain? Do you have any suggestions on how to fix it?
I never tried MIUI so I do not know how is the idle drain on the official OS but I had a Lenovo Tab 4 8" plus before and it was barely loosing 1% per day.
I hope I can find a good setup because at the moment there are not many options for a good 8" tablet. Even the Mediapad M6 8.4" is not produced anymore.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks!
Edit: I forgot to mention that I use f2fs partitions on data and cache. I am not sure if that could cause any issue but on other devices I never noticed battery drain because of it.
ghiri said:
Hello all,
I tried all the custom ROMs available and they seem to have a high idle drain. I am loosing usually 10-20% per day which is extremely high in my opinion.
The Paranoid Android and Arter97's software collection seems to be slightly better but that is Android Pie based.
Is Android 10 the actual problem for the drain? Do you have any suggestions on how to fix it?
I never tried MIUI so I do not know how is the idle drain on the official OS but I had a Lenovo Tab 4 8" plus before and it was barely loosing 1% per day.
I hope I can find a good setup because at the moment there are not many options for a good 8" tablet. Even the Mediapad M6 8.4" is not produced anymore.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks!
Edit: I forgot to mention that I use f2fs partitions on data and cache. I am not sure if that could cause any issue but on other devices I never noticed battery drain because of it.
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yes. I'm facing same issue too. performance is owesome but idle battery got problem. have been try all android 10 for clover. all of them have the same issue . I don't think android 10 causes the problem because my lavender on miui android 10 battery life very good.
Turning off wifi works for me. When I do not need the device I just turn it off and the battery lasts much longer then when idle. have not really looked into it but I guess it is related to data usage or device not going to "deep" sleep
Yes, I had this issue with many custom roms, except Carbon rom. I've been running Carbon rom since I found this rom didn't have that issue, though it has less features than most of other roms
GialanG said:
Yes, I had this issue with many custom roms, except Carbon rom. I've been running Carbon rom since I found this rom didn't have that issue, though it has less features than most of other roms
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Yup, I second that. Also using carbon rom and idle drain is good
If you're using magisk then v20.4 have higher battery drain during idle. Try v20.3

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