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Hey y'all,
I was in the AT&T store the other day getting a replacement for my wall charger (it died and they replaced it under the warranty, nice guys) and they told me not to use any other USB cable with my phone because the Motorola one is special.
They say it charges faster and maybe does other things better too, although they didn't really say what else. Is there any truth to this, or were they just trying to sell more cables?
they are trying to sell more cables...
I got a cable from ebay for my car with a 90 degree tip so i can charge the phone while using it as a navigation device. it surely wasn't a Motorola cable but works great. I have also used other peoples chargers and cables, I think I had an issue only once where I borrowed the cable from a friend and the cable didn't want to charge, don't know what that was about, didn't play with it enough to figure it out, may have been a defective cable. but basically it comes down to, the charger is putting out 5 volts, if the cable carries all 5 volts to the device and doesn't loose any, it will work fine. Also there are only 2 pins in the cable that are used for charging, one for (-) and one for (+). those pins are all the same for every usb charger or a computer. also phones with that type connector are wired to receive the charge only through those 2 pins. Thus, all of them are made the same. The only thing that manufacturers will do is change the gauge of the wire being used in the cable, but with a 3 foot long cable, and only 1amp of power maximum traveling through it, it just doesn't matter
hope I was some kind of help to you...
Hey! I was also thinking that in my mind but couldn't express. I thought everyone will think I'm getting crazy! Buy my atrix full charges in just 1.5/1.45 hours with the Motorola's Official Wall Charger & USB Cable. I haven't seen any phone that charges that fast! The battery backup of this phone is awesome! 2days with moderate use & 4.5 days with normal use. Aweomeeeeeee!
I use the Factory cable at home, and an old Blackberry cable at work. No difference in the USB cables performance.
Hi,
Yes, nothing magic...
The Motorola wall plug is 850mA output, a PC USB port is UP TO 500mA and for example the IPhone one (square one) is 1000mA.
So the charging time will be shorter with the IPhone one, then the Motorola and finally the USB port.
As I have already say in another thread, I have connect the +5V of my power supply directly on the USB port, so now, no problem !
Now you know !
when i charge my battery via adapter .......
sometimes instead of charging it starts discharing ......
idk what happens ...... !!!
S.J said:
when i charge my battery via adapter .......
sometimes instead of charging it starts discharing ......
idk what happens ...... !!!
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adapter?
is it the original wall charger and the usb data cable.?
i too had a problem with an ordinary usb data cable. it charges so sloow. like 1%/20 minutes.
better use the original accesories if its the original one and defective better return it for replacement.
It's probably a cabel problem. Charging occurs only when pins AC and Ground (1 and 5 AFAIK) are both connected, and often some of the pins stop working. If it's not a kernel of power supply problem (Which it probably isn't), it will be solved by simply changing the cable. Or if the cable works in usb charging, buy a new adapter (Make sure it's 5V before buying).
I had the original charger, then broke it...
I bought an USB to replace that(the connector was messed up)... but that charged slow, and discharge when using...(still on the original charger, but another cable)
For 2 months, I borrowed galaxy chargers, and any other friends with cables like mine, I asked them for the charger...
Then, I decided this must stop! I told my mom to find me a galaxy s charger (she was noob, doesn't know I can charge from non-lg cables)...
She found me one, and all fine...
But, before trying to buy one of those, go to a friend with a charger that fits Optimus one, and try it, if it charges faster, then buy a new charger
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interesting read
my mothers camera does not charge with a usb cable while when I put the cable in the camera the charge button is on.
I did not know there are still differences in USB cables ...
cekuhnen said:
interesting read
my mothers camera does not charge with a usb cable while when I put the cable in the camera the charge button is on.
I did not know there are still differences in USB cables ...
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Our stock charger uses a wall "adapter" and an usb cable... it charges from usb, but the chargers that have no adapter (you can't remove the usb from it), charge lot better, I recommend using one of those... any samsung charger that "fits" in our phone is better than stock charger
In mine it charges rarely ! i had lg normal charger but it stops charging if i lift the cell nd use it! den took my moms samsung pop charger ..it worked fine for few weeks den again same problem arised :-S
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I lost mine. I bought 2 for one deal from ebay (noname cables) and they wont charge 30% during al night. So i told them it's faulty and they sent 2 another one. still no charge so i bought an htc one wich seems a bit better, but still not like the original. My friends lg optimus 3d cable was charged it full from ~70% in about 30 mins. His another htc cable was worked fine.
I noticed a lot of people want a fast charger for the Note. This charger is for the Touchpad. I have this and it works really well. It charges faster than the OEM charger that came with the Note.
Not to mention, it is on sale right now for less than $5. Go grab one. From past experience, I used this at 15% battery life and charged for an hour and I was back over to 80%.:victory:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho.../FB341AA?HP-TouchPad-Power-Charger&aoid=35252
Is the usb cable that comes with it the same as the note takes?they don't show a pic of the other end and is it a charge only cable?If yes and yes I'm a gonna get one.Thanks
technut said:
Is the usb cable that comes with it the same as the note takes?they don't show a pic of the other end and is it a charge only cable?If yes and yes I'm a gonna get one.Thanks
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Yes, it is a micro USB cable. One end is USB and other is micro USB. The cable length is longer than most phone cables. I haven't measured it, but from my plug to my desk, I still have excess cable compared to the original one from the phone.
Thank you, getting one!
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
dx.varun said:
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger. If you don't have the charger and have nothing to compare with, then I don't think you can say it does not work.
Go check FCC about the charge. Also, the cables provided DOES carry a 2amp charge. Our note can handle fast charging but throttles down to a slower charging rate after 80%.
having a micro usb slot or not have a micro usb slot has nothing to do with the current it can handle.
Ipads and Iphones have the same connector but yet one has a 1amp charger and the other a 2amp charger.
deliriousbb said:
It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger. If you don't have the charger and have nothing to compare with, then I don't think you can say it does not work.
Go check FCC about the charge. Also, the cables provided DOES carry a 2amp charge. Our note can handle fast charging but throttles down to a slower charging rate after 80%.
having a micro usb slot or not have a micro usb slot has nothing to do with the current it can handle.
Ipads and Iphones have the same connector but yet one has a 1amp charger and the other a 2amp charger.
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Firstly, I have tried to use with a 2amp charger that came with my SGT P1000.. NO DIFFERENCE...
SECONDLY, PULL OUT BATTERY AND READ!
Google for micro usb cable max output... You will get your answers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
dx.varun said:
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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deliriousbb said:
It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger. If you don't have the charger and have nothing to compare with, then I don't think you can say it does not work.
Go check FCC about the charge. Also, the cables provided DOES carry a 2amp charge. Our note can handle fast charging but throttles down to a slower charging rate after 80%.
having a micro usb slot or not have a micro usb slot has nothing to do with the current it can handle.
Ipads and Iphones have the same connector but yet one has a 1amp charger and the other a 2amp charger.
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Well its $5, which is not worth this discussion, I'll gladly give this money even for the stock samsung charger.
i_max2k2 said:
Well its $5, which is not worth this discussion, I'll gladly give this money even for the stock samsung charger.
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Agreed! A good charger for cheap.
dx.varun said:
Firstly, I have tried to use with a 2amp charger that came with my SGT P1000.. NO DIFFERENCE...
SECONDLY, PULL OUT BATTERY AND READ!
Google for micro usb cable max output... You will get your answers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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You don't have to get your panties in a twist. Rather than just read forums and assume the worst of everything try it for yourself. I've tried both and it is faster. Just trying to help my fellow Note users to get the best out of their phones.
btw, what are you screaming about pull out the battery and read? you tell me what you want us to know. RATED: 3.7V; 1500mA... WOW ok that proves your point...sigh:silly:
dx.varun said:
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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As an HP TouchPad owner, I can confirm that the cable provided with the charger are 'special'. My TP will not charge with any other MicroUSB cable connected to the official charger, the same cables which won't charge the TP will charge the Note. (I also own the HP touchstone dock, which the TP spends most of it's life sitting on.)
deliriousbb said:
It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger.
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I have four different wall chargers, including two of this HP barrel adapter (one that came with the TouchPad, one that came with the Touchstone). With the supplied cable, it does charge the TouchPad very quickly. From webOS, the net charge rate is about 1.6 A with the screen on, so probably close to 2 A coming out the USB port.
However, when you plug a Note into this charger, the Note will still only draw 1 A. I have other AC chargers that are also able to supply 1 A to the Note, so in that respect this HP charger isn't anything special. However, it is only $5, which is a good deal.
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pTeronaut said:
My TP will not charge with any other MicroUSB cable connected to the official charger, the same cables which won't charge the TP will charge the Note.
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I've found that the microUSB cable that comes with the Note, when paired with the HP TouchPad's AC charger, will supply 2 A. At least, that's what the OS reports: /sys/devices/platform/usb_gadget/current-mA shows "2000". Plugging the TouchPad into the Note's AC charger shows a value of "900". Plugging it into my laptop's USB port drops that value down to "500", as expected.
I bought two a week ago off Amazon for $10 each. $5 each with free shipping is a steal. I picked up three more. Thanks for posting this deal. I get 1A charging with either the stock charger or TP charger. I like to have a few extra chargers to sprinkle around at home or work (for my Note and the other devices I own that charge off USB.... including a TP).
deliriousbb said:
Yes, it is a micro USB cable. One end is USB and other is micro USB. The cable length is longer than most phone cables. I haven't measured it, but from my plug to my desk, I still have excess cable compared to the original one from the phone.
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When you charge your phone using this HP microUSB cable, do you have issue with NO DEEP SLEEP when unplugging the Note from the charger?
There has been issues reported in XDA where, depending on the USB cables used to charge the Note (connected to computer OR power charger), if you unplug the Note, it will not go DEEP SLEEP, causing significant power drain.
This does NOT happen when the Note is charged using the cable that came with the Note.
Download Current Widget from the play store. Add widget to home screen and you will realize that your phone is not charging any more than 1 amp as designed.
Try the usb out from your pc and you will see about half an amp.
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I have the galaxy tab brick charger the HP touch pad charger and my note charging brick....the touchpad charger works faster...but I feel like it doesn't get fully charged..seems to die faster?. I used the galaxy tab brick...slow to charge warms my phone up nicely...I'd stick with the original note charger.
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lanwarrior said:
When you charge your phone using this HP microUSB cable, do you have issue with NO DEEP SLEEP when unplugging the Note from the charger?
There has been issues reported in XDA where, depending on the USB cables used to charge the Note (connected to computer OR power charger), if you unplug the Note, it will not go DEEP SLEEP, causing significant power drain.
This does NOT happen when the Note is charged using the cable that came with the Note.
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I charge my Note overnight using my Touchpad's MicroUSB cable plugged into the Samsung charger, and I don't experience any difference in power drain.
Where is that post from the guy who put all these petty arguments to rest with scientific tests of all the various options and results??
Good lord people it's a charger for a phone .. no need to get so heated!
(unlike my stock charger.. which gets very heated!)
great price!!!
ordered 3 of them
the price is way cheaper than just a single micro usb cable shipped from other stores
i have 3 already
1 at work, 2 for home.
definitely faster than OEM. I charge overnight, no issues. had for around 5-6 months now. and i can use the phone while charging.
fact is that it DOES charge faster.
i recommend it
WOW***
Great price I bought 2!
Since I got my note 3 I've been charging it with my old AC chargers I bought on ebay which is a generic micro-usb charger (I got a couple of them laying around the appartment). I use my old chargers often because the samsung USB cable which was provided with the phone is always pluged into my desktop computer, and I didn't want to go trough the hassle of moving the cable all around the house to charge my phone.
Well anyway, so far I've notice charging times were pretty long(6-8hours), but I shrugged it off because I simply thought a bigger battery require longer to charge. But this weekend I slept off at my in-laws and I brought my samsung cable and AC adapter. I looked up with better battery stats and notice the charge time was around 3times as fast. (2hours or so for a 100% charge). Dammmn!
So why am I getting long charges with my ebay chargers?
Is it because they are cheap china product?
Is it because they don't have the USB3.0 port?
I'm thinking the USB3.0 has nothing to do with charging times if it's pluged with an AC adapter right? So my long charge time must be because of cheap products? Ok then, but if I want to buy additional chargers, or even a cradle for my bedside table. How can I know if they will have the best charge time? Am I forced to buy samsung branded stuff just to make sure?
Cause I'd be interested in something like this :
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-3-Cradle-Sync-Dock-Mode-2-1-amp-Otterbox-Fits-/251362752408?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item3a86633798&_uhb=1
but I'm not gonna buy it if it takes double/triple charging time..
Patbach said:
Since I got my note 3 I've been charging it with my old AC chargers I bought on ebay which is a generic micro-usb charger (I got a couple of them laying around the appartment).
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The Note 3 should charge in just over two hours with either USB 2 or 3 cables. If you download https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free&hl=en that will tell you the charging current. It should be 1200mA with the screen on and 1800mA with it off (trick is turn the screen off for 10s then back on and refresh and you should see 1800mA).
As long as the charger can deliver 1800mA and you are using a decent quality cable that should be all you need. Plugged into a USB port you'll only see 450mA on either USB 2 or 3.
Usually the ones that charge this quickly have an output of 2 amps. That is the output of the charger that came with the phone.
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CraigAmey said:
The Note 3 should charge in just over two hours with either USB 2 or 3 cables. If you download https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free&hl=en that will tell you the charging current. It should be 1200mA with the screen on and 1800mA with it off (trick is turn the screen off for 10s then back on and refresh and you should see 1800mA).
As long as the charger can deliver 1800mA and you are using a decent quality cable that should be all you need. Plugged into a USB port you'll only see 450mA on either USB 2 or 3.
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wow thanks there lots of useful stuff
After i was struglin to charge my G3 through my pc i buy a traveler charger from ebay...its the same as the stock charger and said 1.8mA..i saw that my phone didnt charge as fast as my stock charger and still my wirless chargers couldnt charge my phone...but i saw another strange think...i bought a collored (w/ LED) usb cable to use it as a night light as long as with my stock charger on my bed....my phone charged as slow as i had connected into my pc usb 2.0!
So i test all my usb cables and saw an extremly diverse charging rate..
As you can see in my pics while using ampere all my other (ebay,old phones) usb cables couldn't pass the 350-400mA charging rate..while my stock LG cable could charge a bit more on the Traveler charger while with the stock charger it could get to 1.0A easily..
So whats wrong??Is usb cables equally different as the chargers???
Thanks and sorry about my horrible english!!!
pikachukaki said:
After i was struglin to charge my G3 through my pc i buy a traveler charger from ebay...its the same as the stock charger and said 1.8mA..i saw that my phone didnt charge as fast as my stock charger and still my wirless chargers couldnt charge my phone...but i saw another strange think...i bought a collored (w/ LED) usb cable to use it as a night light as long as with my stock charger on my bed....my phone charged as slow as i had connected into my pc usb 2.0!
So i test all my usb cables and saw an extremly diverse charging rate..
As you can see in my pics while using ampere all my other (ebay,old phones) usb cables couldn't pass the 350-400mA charging rate..while my stock LG cable could charge a bit more on the Traveler charger while with the stock charger it could get to 1.0A easily..
So whats wrong??Is usb cables equally different as the chargers???
Thanks and sorry about my horrible english!!!
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So, as far as I know, with all of the phones I have had, including the G3, charging my phone through a computer always have horrible charge rates compared to charging through a wall outlet. Though, when you say a "travel charger" in not sure if this is what you meant or if you meant some other form of charger.
From your post I've come to view your question as being "can different USB cables charge at different rates?" the answer is yes. Different usb cables will grant different charging rates depending on what battery type that USB cable was meant to charge.
One last thing though, I would love to know what app you use to find all that information!
6NomoN6 said:
So, as far as I know, with all of the phones I have had, including the G3, charging my phone through a computer always have horrible charge rates compared to charging through a wall outlet. Though, when you say a "travel charger" in not sure if this is what you meant or if you meant some other form of charger.
From your post I've come to view your question as being "can different USB cables charge at different rates?" the answer is yes. Different usb cables will grant different charging rates depending on what battery type that USB cable was meant to charge.
One last thing though, I would love to know what app you use to find all that information!
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So just to buy a funcy and funny usb cable with leds inside from ebay is just a waste of money...even with wall charger it can give to the phone max 600mA...
Anyway thanks...the app is Ampere!!!it give you the charge and discharge flow