Now we have Safestrap 3 and the Webtop partition is totally unused. There are 1,3 GB of unused storage what we could use for another stuff. I am thinking about using it as an extra app storage for one Safestrap slot, or maybe as an backup location. What do you think and how can we realise that? Maybe mounting it via script / init.d?
btw: I guess the dev section is the right place for this request, otherwise I am sorry
I think, we need to completely repartition all partitions, because too much space used by system - how much of the system 8 gb is really used on cm10 ROM? =(
pokatusher said:
I think, we need to completely repartition all partitions, because too much space used by system - how much of the system 8 gb is really used on cm10 ROM? =(
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That's impossible because of the locked bootloader.
System needs about 600mb. The rest of the space is used by Apps, Apps-data and your personal stuff like pics, music and downloads etc.
f****cking locked bootloader... sorry for the noob question but... this is a hardware issue isn't it? i mean, there is no way that motorola under its new management from google changes it's mind and give us a method for un-locking it?
The bl lock is related to the e-fuses, and it's kind of "inverted" because it is a broken e-fuse which keeps the bootloader locked. The only way to unlock it is an unlock tool from Moto which decrypts the encryption (and no, it's not possible to decrypt it with your home computer, that would take "some time"!)
Back to topic! No idea anyone?
@Whirleyes: Do you plan to use the webtop partition in your upcoming bootmenu?
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The bl lock is related to the e-fuses, and it's kind of "inverted" because it is a broken e-fuse which keeps the bootloader locked. The only way to unlock it is an unlock tool from Moto which decrypts the encryption (and no, it's not possible to decrypt it with your home computer, that would take "some time"!)
Back to topic! No idea anyone?
@Whirleyes: Do you plan to use the webtop partition in your upcoming bootmenu?
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If its possible I suggest to use its partition for webtop V2 .hack webtop 2 and make it works with ICS
webtop partition? maybe for another slot- or backup
or ubuntu
Whirleyes want to use it for new bootmenu version (userdata). It's too small for a full rom slot (600mb = system; 1GB = data (minimum); 200mb = cache (minimum) ---> 1800mb). Webtop has 1.3 gb. So it's good for userdata I think. But I think about Safestrap 3 users. It would be sad to waste that space..
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When one problem fixed, it always lead to another problem...
During my own challenge with whatsapp history restore, i figured out one thing...
I don't know since what time...(cause i didnt aware of it before)...,
After I install an app from market, the \data\data\com.xxxxx\databases is linked to \firstboot\sqlite\com.xxxxx\ ???!!!!
I did a simple google search, \firstboot\ should be storing device data and not user data...
Why user data's databases now will automatically linked to firstboot ?!
I know storing in firstboot maybe faster, but causing the app failed to manipulate the database files in firstboot because access rights issues...
Hope someone interested to share your knowledge or find the answers together~~
Thank you!~
My own thought is ...Recovery ?! but no idea how to find the answer right now...
Update :
More info , \firstboot\ is in yaffs2 while \data\ is in ext3...
Firstboot is the data partition on the nand,
data is the data partition on the innersd.
I'm guessing the streak cant completely boot off the innersd, so it needs some of it's files to stay on the nand to boot properly.
Thanks, that could be the possible reason!
But do you know when Dell implemented this approach ?
I am pretty sure I dont have problem in backup/restore individual app's db files when i first receive my streak as 2.2
But this happen to me in rooting 2.2.2 [root] , 2.2.2 [restore to stock] , 2.3 [GS2.4/DSC 0.5].
TheManii said:
Firstboot is the data partition on the nand,
data is the data partition on the innersd.
I'm guessing the streak cant completely boot off the innersd, so it needs some of it's files to stay on the nand to boot properly.
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I guess it was easier to make 512mb nand + 2gb innersd then it would be to put a 2gb nand into it.
Pretty much all other android devices of it's age use 512mb nands and nothing else.
TheManii said:
I guess it was easier to make 512mb nand + 2gb innersd then it would be to put a 2gb nand into it.
Pretty much all other android devices of it's age use 512mb nands and nothing else.
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Oh yes, it is so called 512RAM + 2Gb ROM...
hm..not exactly...ROM should not be writable...
Does anyone know if this would work on the Transformer Prime. The scripts are attached. I believe they would, of course, by changing the parititions. Since they are both EXT4, it should be possible as long as the requirements are there, correct?
Please, can anyone assist. Thanks for your time.
what do them tweaks do?? can we use them on the new build 2.17??
Yea they should work fine, I would just make a backup before attempting it in case something goes wrong. But it should work without issues.
evod3 said:
what do them tweaks do?? can we use them on the new build 2.17??
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It makes the system and data run faster basically. It formats the partition without journaling. And you can use it on any base rom, but when you flash a rom it formats system so you will lose it anyways, data will remain as long as the rom doesn't format it. You have to add this to a rom for system to stay formatted like this.
can som one tell me how i can dual boot my photon4g
lucky.79 said:
can som one tell me how i can dual boot my photon4g
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You can't, yet.
This uses a method called 2ndinit myself and peetr_ have been looking into using this option.
mof9336 said:
This uses a method called 2ndinit myself and peetr_ have been looking into using this option.
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so we can have one androidOS in the internal storage and another android OS in the external storage?? that's really really cool! Would photon 4g be the first phone to have more than 1 OS installed?
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so we can have one androidOS in the internal storage and another android OS in the external storage?? that's really really cool! Would photon 4g be the first phone to have more than 1 OS installed?
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Check my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652411
I have used suggestions from Atrix thread and they worked fine. I have tried two or three times and each time I got some issues. I was copying stock 2.3.4 ROM onto SD card. One time USB ports were not working - no charging, no connection to computer with the cable. Next time there was problem with Play Market. I have tried different steps to reset its settings to no avail. It was giving error related to storage unavailability while downloading anything. I have removed Play Market completely, then somehow install it back, but the issue was not resolved. Now I think maybe it's a permissions issue.
Also device was really slow while running OS on sd-card (I have 32GB Transcend Class 10). It's fun to try but I don't see any practical use for it.
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Check my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652411
I have used suggestions from Atrix thread and they worked fine. I have tried two or three times and each time I got some issues. I was copying stock 2.3.4 ROM onto SD card. One time USB ports were not working - no charging, no connection to computer with the cable. Next time there was problem with Play Market. I have tried different steps to reset its settings to no avail. It was giving error related to storage unavailability while downloading anything. I have removed Play Market completely, then somehow install it back, but the issue was not resolved. Now I think maybe it's a permissions issue.
Also device was really slow while running OS on sd-card (I have 32GB Transcend Class 10). It's fun to try but I don't see any practical use for it.
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hey can you write a detailed guide with instructions on how you got dual boot working on photon 4g please !? I cant afford to make mistakes and bork my phone >.>
And like you said as long as i can charge my phone and connect to my computer with one of the operating system its not a problem. But having dual boot will be really helpfull means I can check out more than one Rom simultaneously.
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hey can you write a detailed guide with instructions on how you got dual boot working on photon 4g please !? I cant afford to make mistakes and bork my phone >.>
And like you said as long as i can charge my phone and connect to my computer with one of the operating system its not a problem. But having dual boot will be really helpfull means I can check out more than one Rom simultaneously.
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The instructions I followed from Atrix page are very detailed. Link is here
It takes time to have a thread where most of the common questions answered. I think it is useless effort to start similar topic here, in addition - I don't have necessary time, knowledge and wish for this.
Anyway, if you do something wrong - you should always have full backup - then you risk nothing. Remember that if you got soft-bricked and recovery doesn't work, you can always use RSD lite to load stock 198_7 ROM, unlock, write new recovery and restore from initial backup.
The only difference between Atrix and Photon, (relative to this task) that you should keep in mind is the partition sizes. Partition table by LAKSHMAN in Play Market (or any other partition tool) can show you your partition sizes. I didn't guess to use these tools when I followed the instructions. Add up some 10 GB to each partition, just in case. When you partition your SD card, you should create partitions of the following size:
system - 420 MiB (stock ROM system partition size 408 MiB)
cache - 645 MiB (my current cache size on stock ROM is 610 MiB)
data - 2.6 MiB
I would also recommend to use script manager to launch scripts that will replace boot image from one to another. In other words, it will control where you will boot next time.
Note that Windows 7 is going mad about SD card with several partitions - sometimes you can see a single ntfs partition, sometimes it shows the ext3 partition, offering to reformat it.
bloodhound_ said:
The instructions I followed from Atrix page are very detailed. Link is here
It takes time to have a thread where most of the common questions answered. I think it is useless effort to start similar topic here, in addition - I don't have necessary time, knowledge and wish for this.
Anyway, if you do something wrong - you should always have full backup - then you risk nothing. Remember that if you got soft-bricked and recovery doesn't work, you can always use RSD lite to load stock 198_7 ROM, unlock, write new recovery and restore from initial backup.
The only difference between Atrix and Photon, (relative to this task) that you should keep in mind is the partition sizes. Partition table by LAKSHMAN in Play Market (or any other partition tool) can show you your partition sizes. I didn't guess to use these tools when I followed the instructions. Add up some 10 GB to each partition, just in case. When you partition your SD card, you should create partitions of the following size:
system - 420 GB (stock ROM system partition size 408 GB)
cache - 645 GB (my current cache size on stock ROM is 610 GB)
data - 2.6 GB
I would also recommend to use script manager to launch scripts that will replace boot image from one to another. In other words, it will control where you will boot next time.
Note that Windows 7 is going mad about SD card with several partitions - sometimes you can see a single ntfs partition, sometimes it shows the ext3 partition, offering to reformat it.
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@PosterBoy : is this GB really?????? Man give some space to breathe..... lol
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@PosterBoy : is this GB really?????? Man give some space to breathe..... lol
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no im sure he miss typed he meant MB like he says in his post in the other thread. ok thanks man ill play around with it a bit so you're sure the phone wont be hard bricked right? I'm a very careful person I'm pretty confident I wont make mistakes all i want to know is everything every instruction given there is detailed enough and that nothing is omitted from it(meaning i dont have to do anything different except the partition sizes you mentioned here)
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no im sure he miss typed he meant MB like he says in his post in the other thread. ok thanks man ill play around with it a bit so you're sure the phone wont be hard bricked right? I'm a very careful person I'm pretty confident I wont make mistakes all i want to know is everything every instruction given there is detailed enough and that nothing is omitted from it(meaning i dont have to do anything different except the partition sizes you mentioned here)
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Yes, everything else from that topic applies. Be careful when you use dd. If you specify wrong drive names you might be in trouble (this will require loading sbf with RSD lite to fix partitions, I guess).
The longest part is to extract boot.img, edit the configuration file there and pack the whole thing back to andorid .img format. It requires you to install Android SDK with some tools that might not work straight away.
Hello Everyone,
I have not play with any android devices since android 2.0 and even back then found self rooting tools. I got my Kid Nabi2 tablet. Runs Android 4.0.4 currently. Nice little tablet. Problem is only have 8GB or storage. About 4gb after all system partitions and recoveries. So my question is can I safely back up my recovery partition to external source to free up some space? I assume recovery partition has complete recovery files when I do restore to factory option. I I remember correctly android has few partitions. /boot, /system, /recovery, /sd. is there a way just to have your operating system and whatever apps. Have recovery mode but have files on like sd card. If I decide to root this device dose that changes anything in my recovery partition. If device is rooted can I just go back to completely stock by doing factory reset? I just want to make sure that if I root it and want to go back to complete stock for any reason I can do that.
You can restore from your backup that gets made after you flash the custom recovery.
Here is the original script for using on Windows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32207344
Though you should use the gapps package from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35888524 as it gets rid of the 'android upgrading' messages on every boot.
If you want a more manual method, or are on linux, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016463
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You can restore from your backup that gets made after you flash the custom recovery.
Here is the original script for using on Windows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32207344
Though you should use the gapps package from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35888524 as it gets rid of the 'android upgrading' messages on every boot.
If you want a more manual method, or are on linux, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016463
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T499user, thank you for replaying. I do run windows. I did look at the section you direct me to me before. What I don't understand is when you root with his program do I use option 1 or 2. Where dose the back up go and how do I restore it later? when I restore dose that bring it back completely to stock, meaning just like it was when i got it? I'm currently running new nabi software do I have to worry about losing wifi?
Also is there a way of freeing up space on my nabi 2 by keeping a back up somewhere else. I think now there is recovery/back up partition. that works when I do factory reset. is that is how that works?
By installing new custom recovery would other recovery still be there?
Sorry trying to get back after many Apple years..
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T499user, thank you for replaying. I do run windows. I did look at the section you direct me to me before. What I don't understand is when you root with his program do I use option 1 or 2. Where dose the back up go and how do I restore it later? when I restore dose that bring it back completely to stock, meaning just like it was when i got it? I'm currently running new nabi software do I have to worry about losing wifi?
Also is there a way of freeing up space on my nabi 2 by keeping a back up somewhere else. I think now there is recovery/back up partition. that works when I do factory reset. is that is how that works?
By installing new custom recovery would other recovery still be there?
Sorry trying to get back after many Apple years..
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I prefer to do it manually, but if you are going to use the script, use option 2. Then you can install gapps from TWRP using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065878.
The backup that gets created is of the current system state. It is stored in /sdcard/TWRP/backups/*serialnumber*/backupname
No worries about wifi as long as you did all of the OTA updates.
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I prefer to do it manually, but if you are going to use the script, use option 2. Then you can install gapps from TWRP using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065878.
The backup that gets created is of the current system state. It is stored in /sdcard/TWRP/backups/*serialnumber*/backupname
No worries about wifi as long as you did all of the OTA updates.
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Now do I have to install TWRP or when i root it will do it for me?
It will be done with the script.
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It will be done with the script.
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What dose exactly gets back up?
also do you know why nabi2 only has about 4.45gb of free storage when total is 8gb? 3.55gb seems a lot for system files???
skull791 said:
What dose exactly gets back up?
also do you know why nabi2 only has about 4.45gb of free storage when total is 8gb? 3.55gb seems a lot for system files???
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The system, boot, and data partitions get backed up. That is the way they set it up for the partitions.
All of your questions have already been answered in the other threads, might want to do a search for 'Nabi' and have a read.
t499user said:
The system, boot, and data partitions get backed up. That is the way they set it up for the partitions.
All of your questions have already been answered in the other threads, might want to do a search for 'Nabi' and have a read.
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T499user trust me I been reading crazy and still cant find an answer. Want to point me to the right place ?
No problem, I would start with the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905674
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016463
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No problem, I would start with the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905674
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016463
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Thank you. I did read all of them. Do you know where I can find something about android system file. Mostly why I have only 4.45gb out of 8. Is thereba way to move back up patition? To external source to free up some space?
Hi,
sorry to disturb you but I do have some little "problems" with my HTC ONE AT&T.
I bought this phone, simunlocked already, and with revone I put it SOFF and than I "converted" it to international version of it (thinking that keeping the AT&T versionI coudn't install internatinal rom...I understood I was wrong but anyway I'm from Europe so I like to have international CID).
Few strange things happened (I'm not sure if it's normal or not).
The first one is that it seems that my phone is loosing memory, it's supposed to have 32 Gb but, as you can see from the attachment, it has just 25.5 Gb, is that normal (I do use a really slim rom, just 150 Mb, but anyway it's the same with any rom I install)...is it normal? Is it possible to format ALL and restore all the memory to an initial state (where there shall be at least 30-31 Gb avaialble I think)??
The second is that sometimes, after installing a rom, exiting the aroma installer, the screen become black instead of getting me back to the recovery (actually it seems it brings me back to the recovery but the screen goes off and no way to turn it on...so force reboot and than everything works fine....but sometimes reinstalling the same rom over and over it works fine, it bring me back to recovery and I can normally reboot the system), is it normal?
Than during the boot it says that this is a test device and so on (a sentence written under the HTC logo), is there a way to remove it? I thought I could do it with revone (I thought it was the tempered flag) but I tried the following thing and isn't removing it even if it says succesfully: Re-run revone to remove TAMPERED from your HBOOT screen: ./revone -t (but maybe it's another thing).
So is there a way to remove that sentence?
Thanks,
Massimiliano
Storage size is normal to show 25.59... As android system uses the rest that you don't see
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TopoX84 said:
Storage size is normal to show 25.59... As android system uses the rest that you don't see
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Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Just go into settings and select storage. It tells you what is being used and by what.. Memory is used like a hard drive and it is formatted so the system can use it properly. That being said on 32GB you loose about 2GB to the formatting. Then the system and everything else on he phone uses it. There is also a swap file of several GB that is used when the 2GB of RAM is too full. There are also a couple of cache that use that memory as well. What you are seeing is typical storage usage of most phones running on Android. You loose around 7 to 10 GB to the system.
m.zambonelli said:
Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Well is like installing Linux on a computer.. The easy setup sets different partitions that the system is going to use for multiple purposes hence losing some GB in the process to be able to perform as required.
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Just go into settings and select storage. It tells you what is being used and by what.. Memory is used like a hard drive and it is formatted so the system can use it properly. That being said on 32GB you loose about 2GB to the formatting. Then the system and everything else on he phone uses it. There is also a swap file of several GB that is used when the 2GB of RAM is too full. There are also a couple of cache that use that memory as well. What you are seeing is typical storage usage of most phones running on Android. You loose around 7 to 10 GB to the system.
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Ok I do understand that but as you can see from the screenshot attached in Setting-Storage it says Total Space 25.59Gb, available 24 and something.
I would like to see/understand/access the remaining 6/7 Gb that are not showed there!
I've the feelings that the memory is decreasing every time I'm installing a rom, I also formatted EVERYTHING. loosing the operating system (than I had to push a rom in the memory) but still is like that!
Any suggestion or idea on how to see what is inside those 7 Gb "missing" from the total space?
Any way to format them?
It's not missing, open a terminal window and execute df command - that will list partitions. Data is 25.6GB, system 1.8GB, cache 600MB, etc. All 32GB are there, but are partitioned for different aspects of the OS, you can't change that.
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It's not missing, open a terminal window and execute df command - that will list partitions. Data is 25.6GB, system 1.8GB, cache 600MB, etc. All 32GB are there, but are partitioned for different aspects of the OS, you can't change that.
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Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff and then in some way restore it to a "default" (I don't know what I'm actually saying, I hope you understood what I mean...mainly like in any windows pc you can just remove all the partition, format all and reinstall the OS from zero).
Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano
p.s. I'm including the screenshot of my df result
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Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff
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It looks normal, you can't delete all of the partitions it would brick the phone. Flashing roms doesn't leave old files, because the install wipes the system first.
m.zambonelli said:
Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff and then in some way restore it to a "default" (I don't know what I'm actually saying, I hope you understood what I mean...mainly like in any windows pc you can just remove all the partition, format all and reinstall the OS from zero).
Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano
p.s. I'm including the screenshot of my df result
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I don't want to sound like an ass but what you have is normal so you are going to have to live with it. There is no way to get more memory cleared up unless you have absolutely nothing but the ROM running and nothing else downloaded and installed. Everyone who has the 32GB version of this phone has the same amount of memory as you. Some have less as they have installed other apps. added music, movies, and pictures.
The ONLY way you could get more memory is to get the 64GB version of this phone. I knew it did not have a card slot so I took that into account and bought the 64GB version so I would have plenty of space for anything I wanted.
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It looks normal, you can't delete all of the partitions it would brick the phone. Flashing roms doesn't leave old files, because the install wipes the system first.
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Ok, Thanks
Solarenemy68 said:
I don't want to sound like an ass but what you have is normal so you are going to have to live with it. There is no way to get more memory cleared up unless you have absolutely nothing but the ROM running and nothing else downloaded and installed. Everyone who has the 32GB version of this phone has the same amount of memory as you. Some have less as they have installed other apps. added music, movies, and pictures.
The ONLY way you could get more memory is to get the 64GB version of this phone. I knew it did not have a card slot so I took that into account and bought the 64GB version so I would have plenty of space for anything I wanted.
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If I knew that 32 Gb meant 25 I would consider to buy the 64 Gb too ... but other than te space I just wanted to understand IF it was normal that, after just flashed a really basic clean rom (just 156 mb of rom) it was normal to have just 25 Gb free (no other additional apps, no photo and so on) ... it's normal, ok, I'll be happy with that and next phone I'll consider a 64Gb version of it.
Thanks everyone for the reply