How to help the greenest Noobs - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just had a few buds that had no idea of the joys of rooted androids. I know some guys do it online or stores close by do the same for too much money. I personally went to qbking77's corner and figured out basic development and flashing by trial and error. I would do it for them but then they can't update the rom without me and the liability if they get mad about something. Anyway my question is what is the best way to help these greenhorns see the world they didn't know existed.
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Tell them to come here and read read read
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Hey all...I'm VERY new to all of this rooting stuff...still reading about it and I can't seem to wrap my head around it....Not sure if I'd be crossing a line by asking this, but here it goes....are there people on here that would actually root a phone for someone if they (ie..me) are to stupid to do so?
Of course there would be compensation involved.
Thanks for any info!!!
If you are new to the point that you are not comfortable following the steps needed to root your phone then I would say that you should not be worrying about rooting your phone at this point.
Why do I say this? It is because you will want to flash a myriad of Roms after your phone is rooted, which I guarantee will cause issues that you will not be able to figure out on your own.
You also need to ask yourself what it is that you hope to gain from rooting your phone. The stock Thunderbolt has bloat no doubt, but it is generally compatible with apps and is about to receive the Gingerbread OTA (non-root users theorize) fairly soon.
What do you want that can only be accomplished by rooting your phone at this point? If you cannot answer that question, then I hope you will take my advice and do some reading on this site, and one or two other sites, until you are ready to root your phone without paying someone to do it for you.
One other thing. Please do not create posts asking about the proverbial 'Best Rom'. There is no such thing.
Just my .02 cents!
I appreciate the info....Thanks!!!
Rich U said:
I appreciate the info....Thanks!!!
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You're very welcome. I hope that I did not scare you off of rooting, but it is something that should not be done without some careful thought before hand.
For $100 I'll root your phone.
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I've rooted several devices for friends that have no intention of using clockworkmod. They simply want the advantages of root and to run a new ROM like CM7. I'd be happy to do it for money, and I don't think the end user of a rooted devices needs to know jack about it rooting it to enjoy the benefits. In short, I'm happy to root a device for someone as long as I know they aren't going to get in there and brick the thing somehow and come to me to fix it like it's my problem. Most people are decent enough to do that.
if you look online(or in your local yellow pages), you can find shops locally that will fix, root, etc your cell phone.
just here in San Diego there's about a dozen places that offer these services.
although i will tell you... the first time you figure out you have a problem with your carb and it's bad enough that you can't drive your car... then a "friend" tells you, just bring the carb over here & we'll fix it for you... then you're just standing there looking at the carb and thinking "uhhh..."
now that's rooting a phone x 10 difficultly.
I'll do it for free, teach you how i did it, and give you the basic knowledge of how not to brick. Where are you located?
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jpa77 said:
I'll do it for free, teach you how i did it, and give you the basic knowledge of how not to brick. Where are you located?
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Good man. There is a one touch root available.. more like several clicks but its easy.
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jpa77 said:
I'll do it for free, teach you how i did it, and give you the basic knowledge of how not to brick. Where are you located?
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My offer still stands. Pm me if you're interested.
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^^^
You sir are a gentleman. I can honestly say that just about everyone who uses Droid theory 's roms are helpful nice individuals.
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You sir are a gentleman. I can honestly say that just about everyone who uses Droid theory 's roms are helpful nice individuals.
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I didn't have anybody to guide me when i first started and i know how frustrating it can be. And you never know, he may be the next great developer with the right start. I have been the "tech support" for my entire family who I converted to android. It would be nice to teach someone who will want to learn as opposed to my family who just says here you do it...
And you are right on the money when you say ppl who use Th3orys roms are nice and helpful. I have learned a great deal from that community.
I am not a dev, just someone who knows how to implement the awesome features created by the community here at XDA.
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I know we are going off topic but I feel the same way. If people did not get smart with other users and just be helpful people would have a great time learning.
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Dang if I was near my laptop which my dad has webx on I would do it for you. I have rooted a bunch of phones for friends and family and I find it especially fun teaching them what root, roms, etc. can help them achieve. Today I rooted my friends sensation so he would have the sensation xe (beats audio) options and speed. If you feel that your stock phone seems slow rooting, overclocking and debloating or changing the ROM can definitely help you!
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I would do it for 30 and make sure your phone gets back to you with lots of extra programs you will need. Plus 5 bucks shipping back.
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Root questions unanswered

Staff please don't close until I've resolved my questions, please I've been looking for a root that doesn't require a factory wipe.. I was searching but can't find the stock. Tar file people refer to also is ukk6 a bad kernel? I heard battery. Issues can anyone answer a few of these questions for me
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Read here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894
This doesn't help most of them say non ugk66
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Try being more literate
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Nick281051 said:
Try being more literate
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You know to say that to someone with dyslexia is really ****ed up
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I never ran stock KK6 but hear it's worthless. ShoStock uses KK6 and a lot of people are very happy with it. Picking a ROM is very much a trial and error deal. Get a kernel with recovery and do a nandroid back up and try them all and if you don't like them you can easily return where you were. I don't know about your other question sadly. I did the Zedomax root a long time ago and don't remember if I had to do a full wipe. I'd say just bite the bullet and do the wipe. Back up all your info somewhere though.
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Virus1x said:
You know to say that to someone with dyslexia is really ****ed up
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You know I had no way of knowing that now did I? I could barely understand your first post but that one is fine
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Dropping the f bomb really isn't necessary, and is far more offensive than saying some silly remark about being literate.
Edit:: you don't want the mods to close down your thread. Yet u refuse to Google search and use profanity.
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Looks like you already had one thread open about this. Not a good idea.
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Don't just make threads over and over when no one is willing to spoon feed you the answer. Read the faq's. If they don't make sense to you, maybe you shouldn't be messing with your phone
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The topic of rooting is already well covered in FAQs and other sticky threads.
Karashta said:
Don't just make threads over and over when no one is willing to spoon feed you the answer. Read the faq's. If they don't make sense to you, maybe you shouldn't be messing with your phone
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Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner!
This is one of the downfalls of Android being mainstream. Too many people doing things they have business doing. I partly blame blogs like Android police and phandroid. They have a habit of promoting rooting with no responsibility of showing them how. They just point everyone to XDA.
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mfreywald said:
This is one of the downfalls of Android being mainstream. Too many people doing things they have business doing. I partly blame blogs like Android police and phandroid. They have a habit of promoting rooting with no responsibility of showing them how. They just point everyone to XDA.
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All I got from that was "I used Android before it was cool"
jklol, but OP read the FAQ's and rooting guide. If you haven't already watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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stick with the amaze or...

hey guys. will eventually be rooting and playing around with some roms in the next few weeks such as cyanogen, speed, etc. I really want to use my amaze, dont feel like getting a new phone right now.
do you guys think I should just stick with the amaze and custom roms or just get a new phone?
These threads are getting sooooo annoying, there is already 2 threads for this
My thread and the useless thread
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Damn, beat me to it
Might as well get it over with. It's personal preference. There are some GREAT ROMS for this AMAZING phone.
YOU are the only one who can decide if YOU wanna spend some cash on a new phone. Chicks dig the Amaze. Our Devs work hard to hook us up.
That said, no one cares if you buy a new phone or hang with the Amaze. If you are asking if this phone is still technologically sound the answer is YES...again depending on your needs.
Hope that helps.
My bad for not searching more in depth to see if this was asked.
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Mahg, I guess that's how I should've rephrased a question. Cool to know the other 2 guys who replied were so informative their responses.
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steveruv said:
Mahg, I guess that's how I should've rephrased a question. Cool to know the other 2 guys who replied were so informative their responses.
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Don't go there, your laziness is what prompted their response and mine. RULE # 1 is to SEARCH before posting. Merry Christmas.
Haven't checked the amaze forum since yesterday and the useless thread and 'what phone are you upgrading to etc' are both in the 10 most recent threads... Having to search would even be a stretch, simply looking at any other threads on the first page would have lead you to the right place.
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[Q] verizon galaxy note 2 4.1.2 root???????

So had problems bricking my phone this is the third note 2 i have recieved. Just updated to 4.1.2 OTA but want to root my phone scared to do so cause of the problems ive been having. Anyone know a safe way too root 4.1.2 and maybe get the bootloader unlocked PLEASE [email protected]!!!!!!!!
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So had problems bricking my phone this is the third note 2 i have recieved. Just updated to 4.1.2 OTA but want to root my phone scared to do so cause of the problems ive been having. Anyone know a safe way too root 4.1.2 and maybe get the bootloader unlocked PLEASE [email protected]!!!!!!!!
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Si you've bricked two phones and made Verizon swap them out? I'd suggest you stay stock.
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zactheandroidmac said:
So had problems bricking my phone this is the third note 2 i have recieved. Just updated to 4.1.2 OTA but want to root my phone scared to do so cause of the problems ive been having. Anyone know a safe way too root 4.1.2 and maybe get the bootloader unlocked PLEASE [email protected]!!!!!!!!
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They are working on it. Sounds like they have it figured out and are just cleaning up the process a little bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118348&page=145
zactheandroidmac said:
So had problems bricking my phone this is the third note 2 i have recieved. Just updated to 4.1.2 OTA but want to root my phone scared to do so cause of the problems ive been having. Anyone know a safe way too root 4.1.2 and maybe get the bootloader unlocked PLEASE [email protected]!!!!!!!!
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People screwing their phones up, by not reading thoroughly and asking questions if they dont understand before flashing ****, and then getting VZW to exchange them is why the rest of us who have real problems that aren't caused by our tinkering end up getting screwed.
If you brick your phone flashing, or just generally screwing around with it, man up and figure out a way to fix it or get a new phine without comitting fraud.
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Well said but its not fraud.Im new here and some of you need to stop acting like you started somewere at one point also.But yes thats ridiculous.
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greekgod1021 said:
Well said but its not fraud.Im new here and some of you need to stop acting like you started somewere at one point also.But yes thats ridiculous.
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Actually, if you do something to your phone that causes it to stop working and submit a warranty replacement request, it is fraud. There is a very, very slim chance to anything to your phone that bricks it if you leave it stock, and the only time you run that risk is during an OTA update really. To do it TWICE says the OP was doing something they didn't understand and caused a problem themselves. It's exactly the reason VZW and other carriers are locking bootloaders and making it harder to get them unlocked, because people keep damaging them themselves and submitting a warranty return.
Dude you work for verizon? If thats the case then the millions of people that bricked their phones are what u described in the post???? Get real man. we are with you not against you so stop seriously.
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greekgod1021 said:
Dude you work for verizon? If thats the case then the millions of people that bricked their phones are what u described in the post???? Get real man. we are with you not against you so stop seriously.
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First off check the tude. Imnuts and many others are the reason we have root and abilities to do things on our phones. Show a little respect, please.
And really if someone tries to root it, it is a violation of the agreement one agrees. It voids the warranty and TOS agreement. So it is fraud to return it for that reason. And finally if one tries it once and bricks mistakes happen, But twice, one should evaluate if they should be tinkering with the phones this way.
With that said I have the 4.1.2 bone stock Note 2. Check my signature for the link I just used Casual and it rooted and unlocked in 4 mins.
I respect everyone here to the fullest.But please dont act like your the hack police, you were a newb once too and Uh he was the one cursing in his post. Obviously the kids a newb and a jacktard.Cut him some slack or just get him booted if thats the case.All the sudden everyones a law abiding hacker??? Please stop being a hippocrate.
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I respect everyone here to the fullest.But please dont act like your the hack police, you were a newb once too and Uh he was the one cursing in his post. Obviously the kids a newb and a jacktard.Cut him some slack or just get him booted if thats the case.All the sudden everyones a law abiding hacker??? Please stop being a hippocrate.
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No one is being a hypocrite. I have never bricked my phone because I busted my ass reading and asking questions if I couldn't find any answers to my questions when I was a newb. I have always recieved help when I needed it and even when I didnt, the problem is this kid has bricked 2 phones by doing **** he clearly doesnt understand instead of asking questions first.
He is the reason we are all getting screwed with replacement phones and prices, and yes it is insurance fraud. The contract covers certain things but bootloader unlocking and bricking is not one, you can root and you'll still be covered but there is very little you can do to kill a phone with just root.
I do like that youre trying to defend your point but there is no need for name calling in this, if you want to have a discussion have one without calling people hypocrites or acting rude in your follow up. Also there is a very fine line between newb and fraudster which the OP crossed.
Also if you have been here long I dont know how you jave missed all the threads about people committing fraud just like this kid, thats why the majority of the community have such short patience, or in some cases tempers, with the fraudsters.
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Ok im sorry.Stop ganging up on me.Your right.Lets leave it at that. I love you all for your hard work and dedication.
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greekgod1021 said:
Ok im sorry.Stop ganging up on me.Your right.Lets leave it at that. I love you all for your hard work and dedication.
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Its this type of mentality thats ruinining these forums!! The bottom line is that it is fraud...I bet both devices were fixable, these devices are hard to fully brick....its like iphone users gone wild around here. folks need to learn to read! Thats how I got started and I have never bricked a device. Its called research twice flash once!
Look I dont need you to kick me while im down .Ok??????? And your pretty late, so give it a rest and try and get laid or something.smfh
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greekgod1021 said:
Look I dont need you to kick me while im down .Ok??????? And your pretty late, so give it a rest and try and get laid or something.smfh
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Actually I just got laid earlier :good:
Why dont you sell your note and join the iphone community...it would be a great place for you. think of it as the retirement community for former android users.
Please is this high school? Get a life pal.Iphone? I actually have no reason to hate an I phone. I ACTUALLY LIKE BOTH.LOOK I APOLOGIZED AND YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS CAT AND MOUSE GAME.GROW UP MAN.PLEASE.YOUR RIGHT AND I SHOULDNT HAVE RESORTED TO YOUR WANNA BE DISGRUNTLED FIRED DEVELOPER FOR NOKIA ATTITUDE.SO PLEASE JUST STFU. THX.AGAIN SORRY AND STFU.
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Can you put more question marks in the title please
In Before The Lock.
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Read the discussion before putting your stupid comment in there.I didnt start the thread smarta $$
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Read the discussion before putting your stupid comment in there.I didnt start the thread smarta $$
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Did I quote you? No. Was that comment for you? No. Why are you getting involved? I haven't a clue.
However the second part was for you because your behaviour here will get this thread closed. Be very careful what you say around here. And especially be careful to those you are talking to my friend.
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So why would you jump in and add fuel to the fire???Please just leave productive comments if not why would you jump in and instigate??
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greekgod1021 said:
So why would you jump in and add fuel to the fire???Please just leave productive comments if not why would you jump in and instigate??
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I know this is the internet. But I meant it light heartedly. As a joke. ( which is hard to show on the net )
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Use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2272066
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Verizon S6 now has root.

I see on the xda Verizon S6 forum that they found a way to root Lollipop. So maybe there is hope for those who took the OTA Lollipop on their S4.
At the end of the day, for all of you who wish you still had root, taking the update was a rookie mistake
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zombolt said:
At the end of the day, for all of you who wish you still had root, taking the update was a rookie mistake
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Understatement of the year
happens every time there is a OTA the noobs jump the gun and end up getting locked out
Or they screw up, brick, and we have to listen to their whines about how it isn't working and they didn't bother to read and figure it out because the threads are too long, or they just don't bother. I'm no expert, but SO sick of reading those posts.
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Or they screw up, brick, and we have to listen to their whines about how it isn't working and they didn't bother to read and figure it out because the threads are too long, or they just don't bother. I'm no expert, but SO sick of reading those posts.
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Hey now, we're all here to learn. This is coming from someone guilty of asking noob questions
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zombolt said:
Hey now, we're all here to learn. This is coming from someone guilty of asking noob questions
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no we are not all here to "learn" that is NOT what XDA is for
There is a difference between asking noob questions and sheer refusal to even try to learn or do research.
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There is a difference between asking noob questions and sheer refusal to even try to learn or do research.
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pls how root
HELP I bork my phone ..
where is dl how install ?
I'm not in a position to make a call on whether or not they tried hard enough to not ask. We weren't all born with the same deck. The Tab S forums are much less forgiving of the noobertons, probably because the user base is different than that of 2 year old phone that is marketed to women.
The thing that bugs me is all the complaining from the people who got impulsive went back to stock in order to take the ota. They just couldn't be patient and wait for the devs to figure it out. It's disrespectful of the devs' achievements and diverts their time away from more important projects like unlocking the bl and getting xposed working again
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Totally agree. I usually wait on OTA's to make sure it won't jack up the phone. Since I've been rooting, it's for what you said, waiting for the developers to work their magic. I'd much rather have them work on "enhancements" and advancements instead of fixes for the impatient people.
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I'm the OP. I do have Lollipop rooted using Muniz_ri method. I just posted this to inform those who took the OTA that there may be hope.
Why do you have spit on the people who made a mistake. Lol. It's not bad enough they are stuck without root but you have kick them while there down as well. I know people tell you not to do that all the time but you don't need to sh*t on them.
Everyone in here please play nicely in the sandbox.....
"Better to be silent, than to argue with the ignorant."
I don't have to worry since I generally have a ROM 99% of the time unless I brick my phone or I have to restore from a corrupt install.. I saw a few friends take the update, but they don't care too much about rooting and whatnot.
Can someone tell me why none of these comments has anything to do with the thread???!!!! I do not believe is says BASH THE NOOBIES!!! Come on people don't take XDA where it doesn't deserve to be! Thank you and have a beautiful day everyone

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