[Q] New to rooting - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, new here although have been guesting for 6 months..
I have been thinking about rooting for over a year now and since just before I picked up my S3 last June when I had my nexus S I was 'researching' the rooting procedure and potential problems / benefits
Took the plunge tonight and rooted my S3.. went well and took about 5-10 minutes (was being VERY careful)
So now my phone is rooted
My main purposes
1) Get rid of major bloatware
2) backup data
3) Overclock performance
4) increase already impressive battery life
5) possibly get a custom ROM (unsure)
I know the answers are dotted around and I have seen bits and pieces but wanted a personalised answer if that makes sense..
What are the first things I should do> btw used the samsung galaxy 3 i900 v.5.0 toolkit to root.. very nice and easy
I have downloaded ROM manager, titanium backup, busybox and hc-ktool (although i think the last if for s2?)
I have backed up rom by booting into recovery
** How do I backup the EFS folder on Galaxy s3?
** How do I do a manual backup of everything on my phone using titanium? i have a schedule set up for twice a week
** What else can i do to take care of the 'security' aspect before messing with anything?
** What should I be doing first?
** How can I overclock performance and what is that nice app that lets you schedule changes in performance based on phone state?
** How do I delete bloatware safely?
** What ROMS are good for S3 and where to get them?
** What else can I do with a rooted phone.. i mainly play games on my commute and use internet..
** Oh yes and how can i download games designed for Nvidia only.. such as Horn and Dark Meadow?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, used to dabble in programming over 10 years ago... so while im new to rooting etc. with the right information and enough reading ill be ok as ill be extremely cautious..
Thanks in advance guys

Kobrax said:
** How do I backup the EFS folder on Galaxy s3?
** How do I do a manual backup of everything on my phone using titanium? i have a schedule set up for twice a week
** What else can i do to take care of the 'security' aspect before messing with anything?
** What should I be doing first?
** How can I overclock performance and what is that nice app that lets you schedule changes in performance based on phone state?
** How do I delete bloatware safely?
** What ROMS are good for S3 and where to get them?
** What else can I do with a rooted phone.. i mainly play games on my commute and use internet..
** Oh yes and how can i download games designed for Nvidia only.. such as Horn and Dark Meadow?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, used to dabble in programming over 10 years ago... so while im new to rooting etc. with the right information and enough reading ill be ok as ill be extremely cautious..
Thanks in advance guys
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For EFS backup: here
For Titanium: usually I do a full backup of all system & user apps every 2nd day (in case I flash something the day after) whereas restoring system apps & data is NOT advised as it might lead to force closes
For ROMs: look in the android development section, many choices available
Hope it helps, thanks for a thanks

You can get rid of the majority of bloatware via Titanium backup. About the ROMs, it is solely depends on your personal preferences. I would suggest using GalaxSih kernel by Harunjo if battery life is your main concern and Perseus by Andreilux kernel for performance and battery life.

Good touchwiz ROM I would recommend is omega ROM. It's easy to install and you can remove all bloatware/selectively install the ones you want.
Siyah kernel is very popular, allowing users to fully customize settings.. ie overclocking, undervolting... among other things.
Setcpu also seems to be pretty popular for cpu customizations, as well as allowing users to stress test if you decide you want to undervolt.
Sywped from my GT-I9300 running Omega v27.2 & franco.Kernel r19

Kobrax said:
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My main purposes
1) Get rid of major bloatware
Flash a stock rom
2) backup data
Nandroid backup via CWM recovery .
3) Overclock performance
no comment
4) increase already impressive battery life
Get rid of apps .
5) possibly get a custom ROM (unsure)
I have downloaded ROM manager, titanium backup, busybox and hc-ktool (although i think the last if for s2?)
ROM MANAGER and CWM CF Root = no
** How do I do a manual backup of everything on my phone using titanium? i have a schedule set up for twice a week
TB only backs up apps .
** What should I be doing first?
READING
** How do I delete bloatware safely?
Read the thread apps safe to remove in Themes
** What ROMS are good for S3 and where to get them?
A banned question choose yourself start with the stickies and basics .
jje
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Thanks for the help so far guys :good:
To the last poster, yes I appreciate its kind of a banned quesion about ROMS, it isnt a best ROM thread though as such and although maybe not worded clear enough, i was asking for some good ROMS that would achieve the things I listed. I will of course do my own research as I spent 5 months reading up about rooting in the first place. I would have hoped that as it was asked somewhat in context it would be seen differently.
The whole concept of rooting still feels new and unexplored and is only as I am confident enough to go for it that I am.. id rather re-ask questions and understand in relation to my specific situation in addition to reading prior posts than just read other peoples posts and hope it relates to my experience.
About Titanium Backup.. it seems the backup this morning has stored on the SD card.. how can I set it to backup to the EXT SD Card? I have created a folder on the EXT card 'TitaniumBackup' so how would I tell Titanium Backup to back up there instead as I cant see where I would do this?
Also, 1.7GB on the SD card is taken up by CWM recovery. Can someone explain why and how I move this 1.7GB to EXT card? I dont know if I can just move it using My Files. I doubt it.

All that rooting does is to grant the user a higher level of access to the system of itself it does nothing .
Recovery set the location in Nandroid to ext sd card .Likewise with TB backup .
Roms all roms are good for S3 .
Suggestion is to start with a rom you understand what it is and how to flash it .
jje

Kobrax said:
Thanks for the help so far guys :good:
To the last poster, yes I appreciate its kind of a banned quesion about ROMS, it isnt a best ROM thread though as such and although maybe not worded clear enough, i was asking for some good ROMS that would achieve the things I listed. I will of course do my own research as I spent 5 months reading up about rooting in the first place. I would have hoped that as it was asked somewhat in context it would be seen differently.
The whole concept of rooting still feels new and unexplored and is only as I am confident enough to go for it that I am.. id rather re-ask questions and understand in relation to my specific situation in addition to reading prior posts than just read other peoples posts and hope it relates to my experience.
About Titanium Backup.. it seems the backup this morning has stored on the SD card.. how can I set it to backup to the EXT SD Card? I have created a folder on the EXT card 'TitaniumBackup' so how would I tell Titanium Backup to back up there instead as I cant see where I would do this?
Also, 1.7GB on the SD card is taken up by CWM recovery. Can someone explain why and how I move this 1.7GB to EXT card? I dont know if I can just move it using My Files. I doubt it.
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I take it you mean the backup, in which case it can be moved anywhere just do not rename it or you will not be able to use it. I prefer a root explorer to the my files app, I personally use ES file explorer then anything can be moved anywhere on the phone.
Some of your other questions:
Backup efs. You can do that through HC-kTool, just tap "backup efs to /sdcard/efs.img" then you can copy it to your ext sd, your PC, USB pen, get as paranoid as you like.
Manual backup via titanium. click the little tick on the top right of the main page then tap "backup all user apps"
Security, just be careful, and be sure to search XDA before you change anything that could do harm
what to do first. Backup with CWM recovery, backup efs, install a root explorer, install and do an initial run of ad free android.
overclock. To overclock you need a custom kernel, I use Siyah and it offers a lot of options for overclocking, undervolting, 2 CPU governors GPU clock rates and volting etc etc etc. take care, overclocking too much can cause damage to the CPU over time.
Bloatware. use Titanium to safely remove bloatware, and there are guides telling you what is safe.
ROMs. These are my personal favorite SuperNexus 0 bloatware and speedy also the next build will be 4.1.2 and Omega a nice fast samsung based rom, you can choose JB or ICS what I like about Omega is you can remove all bloatware during the install, of choose what you want, it is also extremely smooth with Siyah kernel.
What else. You can do anything litterally anything, think of something to do and you will be able to do it.
Hope I helped

Kobrax said:
About Titanium Backup.. it seems the backup this morning has stored on the SD card.. how can I set it to backup to the EXT SD Card? I have created a folder on the EXT card 'TitaniumBackup' so how would I tell Titanium Backup to back up there instead as I cant see where I would do this?
Also, 1.7GB on the SD card is taken up by CWM recovery. Can someone explain why and how I move this 1.7GB to EXT card? I dont know if I can just move it using My Files. I doubt it.
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For Titanium - open the apps - press menu - preferences - backup folder location.
In recovery, you can choose to backup to external sd card.
You can move the nandroid to anywhere you like but you must put it back to the original folder when you need to restore it. 1.7GB is not big at all
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[Q] few questions, differents subjects

Hi there,
I have the tab 10.1 4G+ wi-fi (GT P7500R)
data plan 500mb/months
I use the stock firmware, rom etc...
I downloaded the titanium backup app from the market but it seems that it doesnt work.
What would be the best backup program to dl for the stock tab? (free or not)
How does it work, what and where does it save ? only apps, or all my files (pictures, favorites, widgets etc)
I also read quite a few times, put this on ur sd card, save that to your sd card.
Well i don have any sd card for my tab, i use my pc and my external hd for my storage.
So if one day i decide to try a new firmware or rom or whatever the way it work, can i do it without a sd card ?
About the changes of firmware and roms, i read a bit about it but im not quite sure i understand everything, plus i saw so many thread about peoples that have problems after doing it that i a bit affraid.
I saw one popular firmware that seems to be working great : in paris v4
does it fit with my tab ? or wich one do work ?
Will i still be able to use the default web browser and widgets ?
I'll wait for your anwsers for theses questions before asking some more (depending of the anwsers i'll get)
Thank you
You need to be rooted for titanium to work.
Your 16gb capacity is your SD card on the tab.
Install cwm (see thread here or use overcome thread/guide) and you will gain root and the cwm menu to flash custom roms. The nandroid recovery menu will let you install a zip but cwm will give added options and root.
lgsshedden said:
You need to be rooted for titanium to work.
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that is what i saw when i wanted to dl it, then figured out it won't work.
So wich backup app is the best for a default tab ?
lgsshedden said:
Your 16gb capacity is your SD card on the tab.
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ok, so it mean that when u make any changes to firmware and rom, u dl the stuff on the tab ? then when they talk about flash ? i though that flashing meant "erase" the data..... I think im confuse......
lgsshedden said:
Install cwm (see thread here or use overcome thread/guide) and you will gain root and the cwm menu to flash custom roms. The nandroid recovery menu will let you install a zip but cwm will give added options and root.
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I might look stupid but this is like chinese for me.
I've searched "overcome cwm" and this is what i got link
but i still dont really know what i'll be able to do or not do with this.
please see also this LINK in order to know a bit more on me
Thanks for your help
I hope ill get more awnsers about the other questions
1. Never had the chance to play around with my tab before I rooted and flashed it.
2.flashing pretty much means installing something, weather its a custom rom, kernel or theme. You have to be in recovery mode to do any of this.
3.the link you posted is to a custom rom w/ a built in kernel.
I read your link and from what I gather you should get a little more familiar with your device and read the hell outta these forms. for what you intend to use this device for and you being an android noob I think its better you stay stock for the time being. There are are alot of ways you could ruin your device. So my advise is read read read.
Tdiliplane said:
1. Never had the chance to play around with my tab before I rooted and flashed it.
2.flashing pretty much means installing something, weather its a custom rom, kernel or theme. You have to be in recovery mode to do any of this.
3.the link you posted is to a custom rom w/ a built in kernel.
I read your link and from what I gather you should get a little more familiar with your device and read the hell outta these forms. for what you intend to use this device for and you being an android noob I think its better you stay stock for the time being. There are are alot of ways you could ruin your device. So my advise is read read read.
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Thank you for this anwser,
Im actually a noob with the android world but not a noob in the pc world.
I successfully overclocked my pc 6 months ago and my system is stable (didnt crash once) and i did that without knowledge, just by reading.
I can pretty much do anything if i understand what am doing and what are the exits/recover possibles in case of a problem.
The thing is that am french canadian so i do understand english but sometimes when it goes a bit too far in the abbreviations or in the technical, i get lost.
One more thing, there is so so many subjects, wich one is the best for my tab ?
by reading again and again THE subject that i should, i might finally understand.
Am not in a hurry, for now, i find my tab smooth and easy of use but i never say no to even more smoothness or else.
Im still wondering about wich backup app to use for the default tab and like i ask in my first message, what and where does the backup app save
Nainconpetant said:
Im still wondering about wich backup app to use for the default tab and like i ask in my first message, what and where does the backup app save
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Check out MyBackupPro. It works for non-rooted Tabs and saves the backup either online or on the sd card.
Nainconpetant said:
Thank you for this anwser,
Im actually a noob with the android world but not a noob in the pc world.
I successfully overclocked my pc 6 months ago and my system is stable (didnt crash once) and i did that without knowledge, just by reading.
I can pretty much do anything if i understand what am doing and what are the exits/recover possibles in case of a problem.
The thing is that am french canadian so i do understand english but sometimes when it goes a bit too far in the abbreviations or in the technical, i get lost.
One more thing, there is so so many subjects, wich one is the best for my tab ?
by reading again and again THE subject that i should, i might finally understand.
Am not in a hurry, for now, i find my tab smooth and easy of use but i never say no to even more smoothness or else.
Im still wondering about wich backup app to use for the default tab and like i ask in my first message, what and where does the backup app save
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Well here's what you need to do, in my opinion :
1. DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING that comes from Samsung. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you want to keep it that way.
2. Read up on the rooting/custom recovery thread so you can understand how to get nvflash up and running. This will help immensely as you start flashing custom roms and things go wrong. Backups using the CWM recovery are the quick way out of trouble when you flash a ROM and it screws up.
3. Get fastboot going, as this is probably the best tool for getting out of any trouble you get in to. These devices are incredibly hard to brick once you have the right tool set at your disposal.
Maris_ said:
Check out MyBackupPro. It works for non-rooted Tabs and saves the backup either online or on the sd card.
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thanks, following the info i got in a previous post, when it says backup on sd card and that i use a tab that doesnt have an external sdcard, does it mean it will save it on the tab ? Then if i get a problem with the tab, ill losse everything ?
If so, then i guess saving online is the best way to do it right ?
Im trying the free version right now, online its ridiculous, only 2mb of space
I've looked on their site, i cant find how much space we get with the paid version, do you know the anwser?
One question about the titaniumbackup. it says that it work with rooted tab.
Can i root my tab and stay default to use this backup program ?
I really appreciate the help you guys are providing
(and sorry once again for my poor writting skills)
well i got the anwser about the storage space online for thoses who might want to know
with the 4.99$ payment of the Mybackup pro app, its 100mb online
for 1$/month or 10$/year : 250mb
for 2$/month or 20$/year : 1gb
yesterday i backup my apps, music and pictures on my tab for 235mb total and i only owed the tab for 3 weeks now.
to me this is ridiculous, i better backup everything on my external HD with the usb cable, it might take longer and ill have to do it manually but i rather do that than pay 20$ per year.
anyone has a better solution ?

ok ive rooted now what ??

hi,thats me rooted my galaxy so whats the next step ? i have superuser & darkyrom 2 installed & added the zimage to sdcard and installed it,whats the best apps etc to install now im rooted & how do i install the custom roms to give my phone a better look ?
any advice would be most gratefull as im new to this rooting
kenf2210 said:
hi,thats me rooted my galaxy so whats the next step ? i have superuser & darkyrom 2 installed & added the zimage to sdcard and installed it,whats the best apps etc to install now im rooted & how do i install the custom roms to give my phone a better look ?
any advice would be most gratefull as im new to this rooting
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The plan is to choose a ROM which suits your preferences, e.g. no homescreen lag, better camera apk, better access to the CPU. Try a few, I use Villianrom, which suits me really but there are loads more.
Enjoy
First is first
Backup ur efs
Then titanium
Then cwm full backup
This will keep u busy for today, you'll thank me later
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hi,as i said im new to this rooting,how do i do those things ? ive looked at cwm is that only accessible through reboot hold volume up,power & home button ?whats backup efs ?? and is titanium the app which is £4.99
kenf2210 said:
hi,as i said im new to this rooting,how do i do those things ? ive looked at cwm is that only accessible through reboot hold volume up,power & home button ?whats backup efs ?? and is titanium the app which is £4.99
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your /efs folder is in comparison to apps, data etc. the most important thing to backup since it is the only thing that cannot be restored without a proper backup if it is screwed up by a bad flash. it basically contains your product code, imei and other sensible phone related data. you can backup it easily with hellcat's kTool app from market. For safety reasons you should copy your /efs backup img from your sdcard to your pc afterwards.
Concerning your other questions, just read through the few stickies in the general and android original dev. section. all what you look for is explained there very detailed.
kenf2210 said:
hi,as i said im new to this rooting,how do i do those things ? ive looked at cwm is that only accessible through reboot hold volume up,power & home button ?whats backup efs ?? and is titanium the app which is £4.99
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If u rooted with cf kernel n haven't flashed another then yes, up+home+power >back up. Use hellcats k tool to back up efs (its on market or his thread in dev section) titanium back up is the 1st thing that comes up if you search 'titanium' on market the pro version is costs but is worth it.
Seriously tho, if you're new to android and have never rooted, give it a few weeks first otherwise you won't know what is 'better' and if you don't and end up having problems with roms you'll end up crying that you should have got an Iclone.. Just my opinion from observing this forum for a while
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hofinho said:
your /efs folder is in comparison to apps, data etc. the most important thing to backup since it is the only thing that cannot be restored without a proper backup if it is screwed up by a bad flash. it basically contains your product code, imei and other sensible phone related data. you can backup it easily with hellcat's kTool app from market. For safety reasons you should copy your /efs backup img from your sdcard to your pc afterwards.
Concerning your other questions, just read through the few stickies in the general and android original dev. section. all what you look for is explained there very detailed.
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Damn... Beat me to it
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hi,this rooting seems pretty confusing as i used to be an iphone user and jailbreaking was simple but this seems to be difficult to follow,ive been looking around the forum for step by step guide on how to install roms etc but just cant find them,would like to test this out to see if it was worth rooting but at the moment its done nothing for me or the phone its just added another few apps,it seems to me like its a lot of hassle to get different roms etc onto the phone & whats radio etc do i need to update other stuff when i try to put roms on & kernels whats that all about ????sorry chaps but im clueless to all this stuff maybe i should have stayed with apple.
and the efs backup has been done with hellcat & when connected to pc there is no backup file on my sd card ??
kenf2210 said:
hi,this rooting seems pretty confusing as i used to be an iphone user and jailbreaking was simple but this seems to be difficult to follow
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My advice is to stay away from flashing ROMs, kernels and rooting.
Use it like you used your iPhone, install games and apps from the Android Market and enjoy your phone.
Unless you've seen something you particularly want from any of the above, the risks for you are not worth it.
thinking that myself mate but how do i put the phone back to the way it was before i rooted ?
how to remove the root & go back to original way
As far as I can tell, you haven't said how you rooted - looks like you flashed a different, pre-rooted kernel. There's not a big risk staying rooted, just take extra care if you install something and you get a popup on your phone telling you it's asking for root (superuser request).
it was this
DooMLoRD_v2_ROOT-zergRush-busybox-su.zip
and installed zimage to my sd card and installed onto phone so i have superuser and darkyrom2 installed ive done nothing else.
mucking around with roms & kernels etc seem a load of hassle & dont want to destroy the phone with wrongly installed roms etc & what happens when a new update come out through kies ? do i just install it or what ?
can i not just remove the root by doing a factory reset or something ?
Of course you can easily completely revert back to your original set-up. For doing that just type *#1234# in your dialer and post here the output. I or someone else can point you to your original rom.
BUT you will never get a taste of in my opinion the greatest advantage of android: it's customability.
I promise you, you won't regret the effort it takes to educate yourself a bit about the basic knowledge you need, to do all the cool stuff which is only possible rooted. It is enough to spend some time to read regulary here on xda and you will see that everything is really not that hard. You don't have to fear, it is almost impossible to brick your phone if you just have a backup of your /efs folder, don't flash the firmware of another device on your phone and don't disconnect your usb cable in the one second a different bootloader gets flashed. I have flashed and hardcore abused my sgs1 more then 500 times (no exaggeration, i am a dev for sgs1 ) and my sgs2 also very often. Everything ( while testing stuff i went through scary errors and a literally death phone more than once) is recoverable except in the three situations i mentioned above. And you can ALWAYS go back to stock later on no matter what you have messed up.
Have a look again at the content of your sdcards (also in folders and subfolders), the efs.img or .tar has to be somewhere there, save it on your pc and the party can be started
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And because i am a nice guy and don't want you to go back to apple here my advice for your first custom rom :
1. Follow exactly the instructions there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Take your time to read through, everything is explained very well
2. Then you are ready to flash your first custom rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288850
this is in my opinion the most stable atm. Read through the first posts, download the 2.9 zip from the post, copy it to your internal sd
3. Switch your device off and boot into recovery by pressing and holding volume up, home and power button at the same time until samsung gti9100 appears on the screen (about 5 sec.), then release the three buttons and you are in recovery mode. You can navigate with vol up and vol down and power or home button in the recovery mode. Navigate to "install from sdcard"/"choose zip from sdcard" and then select the file you have downloaded. Confirm and relax. That's all... easy or?
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thanks for your help mate i really appreciate it,i would like to give the root a go & see if i can get the roms working etc im just scared that i muck it up, i suppose i will just need to be patient & try this out,first is to find this ems backup on my phone so i can save to my pc,ive plugged it in & its on coming up sd card & not internal memory ? any idea why that is ?
its cool about last bit ive just plugged it in again & ive found the efs.img
& is this the rom Hyperdroid Androidmeda v2.9.0 ?
kenf2210 said:
thanks for your help mate i really appreciate it,i would like to give the root a go & see if i can get the roms working etc im just scared that i muck it up, i suppose i will just need to be patient & try this out,first is to find this ems backup on my phone so i can save to my pc,ive plugged it in & its on coming up sd card & not internal memory ? any idea why that is ?
its cool about last bit ive just plugged it in again & ive found the efs.img
& is this the rom Hyperdroid Androidmeda v2.9.0 ?
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The efs.img is stored where hellcat directed it to, i just didn't remember where. but yes it is the right file.
Yes this is the rom. You will be surprised about the speed difference compared to stock
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hi,done it mate thanks for your help,up & running with my first rom yippeee,i take it that i can only put certain roms on the phone ? & what happens with samsung kies if it come up with new firmware update what do i do ?
kenf2210 said:
hi,done it mate thanks for your help,up & running with my first rom yippeee,i take it that i can only put certain roms on the phone ? & what happens with samsung kies if it come up with new firmware update what do i do ?
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From now on you can easily forget about kies, roms here will mostly provide newest firmware long before it is out via kies. Also with odin you can always much more comfortable flash the same firmware as comes over kies.
You can flash any rom you want as long as it is for your device (gt i9100).
As i said, take your time and read across the forum and always follow the thread about the rom you run and your knowledge will improve from alone have fun bro
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hi,im thinking about trying a diffrent rom on my phone,i have this rom at the moment
[ROM][2.3.5][26NOV'11]δ-HyperDroid-Androidmeda-v3.0[Ker:TJKv1.0| Update3 |2.6.35.14]
is there anything better looking out there as this rom didnt seem to change much look wise,and what about themes ? can i put them on the phone ?
also if i install a new rom will it take everything of the phone apps etc ?

[Q] Wanting to get my "feet wet"!

Been reading/researching for the last week or two; and the solid info keeps leading me back here to xda!
As a long time personal system builder with some OC'ing experience and flight sim beta testing, I'm starting my trek to the dark side of these android phones.
Just upgraded the wife from an original razr to the X2, and she's perfectly happy. I'm waiting on Santa for a new Droid Razr. So, my plan is to get started on the X2 with the goal of rooting it, then immediately doing a backup using Moon Shadow's excellent stickys along with the help of anyone else that wishes to post. Thinking the X2 experience should help to calm my nerves once I really get into the Razr.
Couple of questions that are sticking in my mind right now are:
Am I understanding the stickys correctly that I should be doing the nandroid backup immediately after rooting? This includes backing up before installing any optional apps such as TI, etc?
In Moon Shadow's Nandroid and Backup Recovery, it's recommended to use Dropbox to get the Recovery APK over on the phone and installed. Any other methods that will work equally well? Would a simple copy/paste of the APK to the sd card suffice? Or would I at least need some sort of apk "installer" to finish the install?
Also, any other apps to keep this X2 lean and clean so as to make it as simple and pain free as possible for the wife? She likes simple/easy to use. I'll be providing tech support and keeping it as optimal as possible.
I'll close this long ass post with a simple THANK YOU to all the members/devs here on xda for tolerating us "noobs" and providing a wealth of info for those wishing to learn the "right" way!
A nandroid is a good idea after rooting imo. Although you can always sbf back to stock if need be. The reason it's a good idea is if you are going to remove stock apps yourself, you can restore back to stock rooted if you remove something important that screws up your phone.
You can copy/paste the apk to your sdcard, no problem. You'll want a file browser to get to it and install. Personally I like Root Browser, Root Explorer, or Astro. You should be able to install through any of those.
Sent from my DROID X2 using XDA App
WVULTRA said:
Been reading/researching for the last week or two; and the solid info keeps leading me back here to xda!
As a long time personal system builder with some OC'ing experience and flight sim beta testing, I'm starting my trek to the dark side of these android phones.
Just upgraded the wife from an original razr to the X2, and she's perfectly happy. I'm waiting on Santa for a new Droid Razr. So, my plan is to get started on the X2 with the goal of rooting it, then immediately doing a backup using Moon Shadow's excellent stickys along with the help of anyone else that wishes to post. Thinking the X2 experience should help to calm my nerves once I really get into the Razr.
Couple of questions that are sticking in my mind right now are:
Am I understanding the stickys correctly that I should be doing the nandroid backup immediately after rooting? This includes backing up before installing any optional apps such as TI, etc?
In Moon Shadow's Nandroid and Backup Recovery, it's recommended to use Dropbox to get the Recovery APK over on the phone and installed. Any other methods that will work equally well? Would a simple copy/paste of the APK to the sd card suffice? Or would I at least need some sort of apk "installer" to finish the install?
Also, any other apps to keep this X2 lean and clean so as to make it as simple and pain free as possible for the wife? She likes simple/easy to use. I'll be providing tech support and keeping it as optimal as possible.
I'll close this long ass post with a simple THANK YOU to all the members/devs here on xda for tolerating us "noobs" and providing a wealth of info for those wishing to learn the "right" way!
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First I'd just like to say welcome. You're in for a good time. Nandroids are just good to keep as a refference point so that if your phone gets messed up you can just restore the backed up image vs having to sbf, reroot etc. You are more than welcome to install any apps you would like before a nandroid backup but I recommended doing it before you flash anything or start making modifications that require root permissions.
As far as the recovery Apk is concerned, I just keep it on my external SD, that way I can just find it with root explorer or a similar directory app and install it from there. Very simple. There is no installer app needed, just turn on the setting that allows third party apps, select it within the directory and you should be given the option to install.
Not really sure what you need to keep everything simple. Maybe some specifics would help. I could suggest looking into different Widgets so you can have access to certain things right on the homescreen.
Glad to see you here!
Sent from my DROID X2 using xda premium
I do nand backups regularly and delete the old(usually keep 2 most recent just in case) to keep up to date and before changing roms or updating. you can also restore just the data if you go into Advanced Restore and choose data restore as long as your previous rom you did the backup on and the current rom you are restoring it to are on the same version (2.2.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5+ are all different). Its typically not required to restore when updating although some roms will in earlier testing stages sometimes or if a drastic change occurs to the rom but its a good idea to back it up prior just in case.
As far as apk files are concerned the easiest way for me to keep them is emailed to myself through gmail because you can install the app straight from your email without having to download it to the phone(there will be an install button in the body of the email when checking it from your phone). You can email them to yourself on the computer and move them to a special file to save space on your internal or external sd and keep the files for whenever you might need them.
As far as "keeping it clean"...just flash a clean rom and choose a script you can find and read about in the development section that will tailor your needs best. in my opinion apps that are made to save battery, free memory, and keep programs from running only make the phone slower and use more battery because those types of apps will always be running and therefore counterproductive. There are some good root apps out(search "root" on market) that help out a good deal, but they are few and far between imo. Just find what you like(or she likes), the more you find out about these phones the more uses you find in it.
Good luck
hitman_dreams said:
A nandroid is a good idea after rooting imo. Although you can always sbf back to stock if need be. The reason it's a good idea is if you are going to remove stock apps yourself, you can restore back to stock rooted if you remove something important that screws up your phone.
You can copy/paste the apk to your sdcard, no problem. You'll want a file browser to get to it and install. Personally I like Root Browser, Root Explorer, or Astro. You should be able to install through any of those.
Sent from my DROID X2 using XDA App
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hitman:
Yes, at this point I'd prefer to restore back to stock rooted vs. sbf; and it's good to know I've got both as options.
Right now leaning towards Root Explorer.
Thanks for your feedback!
CadenH said:
First I'd just like to say welcome. You're in for a good time. Nandroids are just good to keep as a refference point so that if your phone gets messed up you can just restore the backed up image vs having to sbf, reroot etc. You are more than welcome to install any apps you would like before a nandroid backup but I recommended doing it before you flash anything or start making modifications that require root permissions.
As far as the recovery Apk is concerned, I just keep it on my external SD, that way I can just find it with root explorer or a similar directory app and install it from there. Very simple. There is no installer app needed, just turn on the setting that allows third party apps, select it within the directory and you should be given the option to install.
Not really sure what you need to keep everything simple. Maybe some specifics would help. I could suggest looking into different Widgets so you can have access to certain things right on the homescreen.
Glad to see you here!
Sent from my DROID X2 using xda premium
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CadenH:
Thanks for the welcome. Truly appreciated!
Glad to hear the simplified procedure for installing the apk. I'm sure once I get it rooted, and a solid backup saved, I'll take some time to evaluate what to add app wise along with the Widgets.
xerotix said:
I do nand backups regularly and delete the old(usually keep 2 most recent just in case) to keep up to date and before changing roms or updating. you can also restore just the data if you go into Advanced Restore and choose data restore as long as your previous rom you did the backup on and the current rom you are restoring it to are on the same version (2.2.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5+ are all different). Its typically not required to restore when updating although some roms will in earlier testing stages sometimes or if a drastic change occurs to the rom but its a good idea to back it up prior just in case.
As far as apk files are concerned the easiest way for me to keep them is emailed to myself through gmail because you can install the app straight from your email without having to download it to the phone(there will be an install button in the body of the email when checking it from your phone). You can email them to yourself on the computer and move them to a special file to save space on your internal or external sd and keep the files for whenever you might need them.
As far as "keeping it clean"...just flash a clean rom and choose a script you can find and read about in the development section that will tailor your needs best. in my opinion apps that are made to save battery, free memory, and keep programs from running only make the phone slower and use more battery because those types of apps will always be running and therefore counterproductive. There are some good root apps out(search "root" on market) that help out a good deal, but they are few and far between imo. Just find what you like(or she likes), the more you find out about these phones the more uses you find in it.
Good luck
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xerotix:
From my reading/research I have it burned to memory to always stay with the same version when restoring! Her X2 is currently on 2.3.4 via the OTA update.
Good idea on using the gmail account! Had no idea this way was an option.
Once I get over the initial shock of getting it rooted and backedup, I'm sure I'll look at a custom ROM if she allows it. Just need to do additional research on how to choose the right ROM for her needs. And right now, I'm totally in the dark on choosing a "script"; but I'll also learn this as I go.
Thanks for your feedback!
Preliminary Game Plan
At this point, I've put together an initial game plan. Currently have on the desktop pc: Pete's Root Tools v1.07, RSD Lite v5.6 along with the GB 2.3.4 SBF, and the MOTO_Bootstrap_signed.rar (apk).
Please feel free to confirm or correct my plan.
1. Root the phone via Moon Shadow's X2 Tutorial using Pete's v1.07.
2. Once Pete's tool gives me confirmation that the phone is rooted, upgrade SU and Busybox via the Market. Sure would like a confirmation on this step!
3. Prior to the backup, copy the Droid X2 Recovery APK over to the external sd card, dl Root Explorer which is going to let me "install" the Recovery APK.
4. Follow Moon Shadow's X2 nandroid/backup Tutorial by launching the Recovery APK and following his Backup prodedure.
5. My plan is to backup to the external sd card so I can also keep a copy on the desktop along with one on an external thumb drive. Sorry if I sound too redundant!
A few of the apps I plan on purchasing/dl'ing (don't mind contributing small $ for the pro/pay versions as I hope it thanks them for their hard work and encourages continued upgrades) are:
TI Backup Pro
Root Explorer (File Manager)
My Backup Pro (for the wife's contacts, messages, photos, etc.)
Again, all feedback/corrections/confirmations will be appreciated!
Thanks!
WVULTRA said:
At this point, I've put together an initial game plan. Currently have on the desktop pc: Pete's Root Tools v1.07, RSD Lite v5.6 along with the GB 2.3.4 SBF, and the MOTO_Bootstrap_signed.rar (apk).
Please feel free to confirm or correct my plan.
1. Root the phone via Moon Shadow's X2 Tutorial using Pete's v1.07.
2. Once Pete's tool gives me confirmation that the phone is rooted, upgrade SU and Busybox via the Market. Sure would like a confirmation on this step!
3. Prior to the backup, copy the Droid X2 Recovery APK over to the external sd card, dl Root Explorer which is going to let me "install" the Recovery APK.
4. Follow Moon Shadow's X2 nandroid/backup Tutorial by launching the Recovery APK and following his Backup prodedure.
5. My plan is to backup to the external sd card so I can also keep a copy on the desktop along with one on an external thumb drive. Sorry if I sound too redundant!
A few of the apps I plan on purchasing/dl'ing (don't mind contributing small $ for the pro/pay versions as I hope it thanks them for their hard work and encourages continued upgrades) are:
TI Backup Pro
Root Explorer (File Manager)
My Backup Pro (for the wife's contacts, messages, photos, etc.)
Again, all feedback/corrections/confirmations will be appreciated!
Thanks!
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YES GET ROOT EXPLORER
it will.make ur.life SO MUCH EASIER in the.long run. You will definitely get your moneys worth within the first 2weeks of using it. Simple UI and very efficient set-up. All u need for a root file explorer. BEST choice
I don't use TI backup...
Anything TI does can be done manually by using root explorer to copy apks to sdcard..
I lied...ti can backup data for apps as well...but I have seen problems arise sometimes...I just personally don't use it...
I recommend bloat freezer if u plan on freezing any apps ...it is like dipping the apps in liquid nitrogen...best app freezer available PERIOD...((TI "freezes" as well but uses a different process and some apps don't "freeze" all the way))) ur choice tho experimentation is KEY and us the main point have fun with it..as long as u have a nandroid or sbf file u are good to try TONS of stuff knowing u will be able to get back easily.
Can't comment on "my backup pro" but I can say that if u store your contacts synced to google and/or backup assistant that they will always be available to u. They get backed up to an o line account (gmail for google...myverizonwirelessc.com>>>backup assistant ))) photos get stored on sdcard and shouldn't be deleted unless u choose to format sd cards.
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Oh...and updating the superuser app itself isn't necessary ....good idea to update its binary tho....but do NOT worry bout it....the first time u grant SU permission to something it will ask u if u want to update the binary and u can just press the notification in the pulldown window to do it....
Busybox ----. U can if u want to.
But if u flash eclipse it comes with busybox 1.19.gitadrynaline...
Not sure what is installed when initially rooted...never checked...
if u want to update I recommend that version...I've never had any issues with it. And it isn't an app. It is installed to system/xbin I believe....it allows for different commands/scripts to work properly....someone can explain better than me if u need to know what it does...
u can update busybox via busybox installer from market....there are a couple...most are pretty fond of the one made by jrummy ....
HAVE FUN TWEAKING AND WELCOME
ashclepdia said:
YES GET ROOT EXPLORER
it will.make ur.life SO MUCH EASIER in the.long run. You will definitely get your moneys worth within the first 2weeks of using it. Simple UI and very efficient set-up. All u need for a root file explorer. BEST choice
I don't use TI backup...
Anything TI does can be done manually by using root explorer to copy apks to sdcard..
I lied...ti can backup data for apps as well...but I have seen problems arise sometimes...I just personally don't use it...
I recommend bloat freezer if u plan on freezing any apps ...it is like dipping the apps in liquid nitrogen...best app freezer available PERIOD...((TI "freezes" as well but uses a different process and some apps don't "freeze" all the way))) ur choice tho experimentation is KEY and us the main point have fun with it..as long as u have a nandroid or sbf file u are good to try TONS of stuff knowing u will be able to get back easily.
Can't comment on "my backup pro" but I can say that if u store your contacts synced to google and/or backup assistant that they will always be available to u. They get backed up to an o line account (gmail for google...myverizonwirelessc.com>>>backup assistant ))) photos get stored on sdcard and shouldn't be deleted unless u choose to format sd cards.
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Oh...and updating the superuser app itself isn't necessary ....good idea to update its binary tho....but do NOT worry bout it....the first time u grant SU permission to something it will ask u if u want to update the binary and u can just press the notification in the pulldown window to do it....
Busybox ----. U can if u want to.
But if u flash eclipse it comes with busybox 1.19.gitadrynaline...
Not sure what is installed when initially rooted...never checked...
if u want to update I recommend that version...I've never had any issues with it. And it isn't an app. It is installed to system/xbin I believe....it allows for different commands/scripts to work properly....someone can explain better than me if u need to know what it does...
u can update busybox via busybox installer from market....there are a couple...most are pretty fond of the one made by jrummy ....
HAVE FUN TWEAKING AND WELCOME
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ash:
Thanks for all the detailed info! Things have been hectic the last few days, so my plan is to get started this weekend when I have plenty of un-interrupted time.
Really looking forward to this, and I'll post my results back once I've made some progress.
Truly appreciate the feedback!
No problem
Hahaha I didn't realize how long that.post actually got lol.
Sometimes I ramble and go on tangents so if I confused ya at any point don't hesitate to ask me to clarify
If you get titanium then you should probably pass on my backup pro, it'd be redundant as titanium can backup user data like texts and progress in games etc. just setup a regular backup schedule in TiBu and you'll be good to go.
Sent from my Android device.
ashclepdia said:
No problem
Hahaha I didn't realize how long that.post actually got lol.
Sometimes I ramble and go on tangents so if I confused ya at any point don't hesitate to ask me to clarify
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ash:
On the contrary, I'm one of those noobs that enjoys detailed info! And, if I get confused I will ask more questions!
TU!
juhde said:
If you get titanium then you should probably pass on my backup pro, it'd be redundant as titanium can backup user data like texts and progress in games etc. just setup a regular backup schedule in TiBu and you'll be good to go.
Sent from my Android device.
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juhde:
Thanks for pointing that out! My concern was to have solid/secure backups of everything important along with the wife's contacts, messages, etc, etc, etc, so if I screw up the I can retrieve everything she uses daily/regularly.
Will do some more research on the apps once I get the root and nandroid bu secure.
Thanks again!
YES GET ROOT EXPLORER
it will.make ur.life SO MUCH EASIER in the.long run. You will definitely get your moneys worth within the first 2weeks of using it. Simple UI and very efficient set-up. All u need for a root file explorer. BEST choice
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ash: since it appears your familiar with Root Explorer, I'm wondering if the app allows me to use it on other phones I own without having to pay for it again? I sent an inquirey to speedsoftware.co.uk, and their reply didn't really answer my question.
With TiBU Pro, they mail you a "key" and once the free version is installed on another phone, placing the .txt key file in the correct folder allows another phone to have the premium version.
At least that's my understanding.........
WVULTRA said:
ash: since it appears your familiar with Root Explorer, I'm wondering if the app allows me to use it on other phones I own without having to pay for it again? I sent an inquirey to speedsoftware.co.uk, and their reply didn't really answer my question.
With TiBU Pro, they mail you a "key" and once the free version is installed on another phone, placing the .txt key file in the correct folder allows another phone to have the premium version.
At least that's my understanding.........
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As long as the market on both phones is linked to the same account. You should be good. Just like buying a new phone. All your paid apps are still there to download again.
Sent from my DROID X2 using xda premium
WVULTRA said:
ash: since it appears your familiar with Root Explorer, I'm wondering if the app allows me to use it on other phones I own without having to pay for it again? I sent an inquirey to speedsoftware.co.uk, and their reply didn't really answer my question.
With TiBU Pro, they mail you a "key" and once the free version is installed on another phone, placing the .txt key file in the correct folder allows another phone to have the premium version.
At least that's my understanding.........
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Yeah what he said.
U just need to have the gmail account u bought it with associated wit the new phone.
Rooted!
Wanted to follow up and let everyone know that I got the wife's X2 rooted following Moon Shadow's excellent Tutorials; and it worked perfectly! After rooting, I updated SU and Busybox through the market. After installing/launching the bootstrap apk, was able to do a complete nandroid following the BU/Restore Tutorial. Had one hiccup that was self-induced while attempting to start the system recovery, but removing the battery and rebooting allowed my second attemp to work flawlessly.
A big THANKS for everyone's help and support. Have to say TiBU and Root Explorer are definitely recommended apps. Have removed/froze most of the bloat listed here at the forum and have been backing up along the way. Phone is working fine.
Now, to continue my research on considering a custom ROM like Eclipse......
Thanks again!
WVULTRA said:
Wanted to follow up and let everyone know that I got the wife's X2 rooted following Moon Shadow's excellent Tutorials; and it worked perfectly! After rooting, I updated SU and Busybox through the market. After installing/launching the bootstrap apk, was able to do a complete nandroid following the BU/Restore Tutorial. Had one hiccup that was self-induced while attempting to start the system recovery, but removing the battery and rebooting allowed my second attemp to work flawlessly.
A big THANKS for everyone's help and support. Have to say TiBU and Root Explorer are definitely recommended apps. Have removed/froze most of the bloat listed here at the forum and have been backing up along the way. Phone is working fine.
Now, to continue my research on considering a custom ROM like Eclipse......
Thanks again!
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Congrats
Let the fun begin!
Don't get left in the dark flash eclipse lol
Have fun in ur research. Reading and learning is one of the best parts doing this stuff..you will feel bit overwhelmed at first until you realize how "simple" things can be.
One bit of.knowledge for ya ---i... HIGHLY recommend that you use Bloat /CIQ freezer from.market for freezing any apps https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bloatfreezer.free
trust me on this. It will freeze apps better than TI does. I have read before and noticed first hand((I only used TI twice)) that some apps still run when frozen with TI. Those same apps when frozen with bloat freezer are like solid ice cubes floating in liquid nitrogen. They WILL NOT run until defrosted.
And if I want to remove any apps I just use root explorer to move the apk to my external sd card if I want a backup or I just straight delete it if I don't want it at all.
Have fun!
ashclepdia said:
Congrats
Let the fun begin!
Don't get left in the dark flash eclipse lol
Have fun in ur research. Reading and learning is one of the best parts doing this stuff..you will feel bit overwhelmed at first until you realize how "simple" things can be.
One bit of.knowledge for ya ---i... HIGHLY recommend that you use Bloat /CIQ freezer from.market for freezing any apps https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bloatfreezer.free
trust me on this. It will freeze apps better than TI does. I have read before and noticed first hand((I only used TI twice)) that some apps still run when frozen with TI. Those same apps when frozen with bloat freezer are like solid ice cubes floating in liquid nitrogen. They WILL NOT run until defrosted.
And if I want to remove any apps I just use root explorer to move the apk to my external sd card if I want a backup or I just straight delete it if I don't want it at all.
Have fun!
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ash:
Appreciate the info on bloatfreezer! Even though I've got TuBU Pro, I realize after a few uses that I'm more comfortable with root explorer! And I have noticed a couple of apps that are frozen but still appear in the apps listing.
I'll definitely consider bloatfreezer once I've determined if it can coexist (for my use) with TiBU or should I uninstall TiBU first.
Thanks!

[Q] internal SD memory

i rooted my phone then flash cm9 about month ago before that my internal sd memory was enough for me as i have some episodes and movies on and still got 4-5 gbs but now its only have 2.3gb free then i notice that titanium backup folder is about 700 mb and cynogen mod folder is about 1.7 Gb i wnated to know do have to keep these folder or i can simply copy them in my laptop and delete them from my phone.
do they create a problem or any kind of instability for rom or phone ? wanted to know before doing something.
grown ups said:
i rooted my phone then flash cm9 about month ago before that my internal sd memory was enough for me as i have some episodes and movies on and still got 4-5 gbs but now its only have 2.3gb free then i notice that titanium backup folder is about 700 mb and cynogen mod folder is about 1.7 Gb i wnated to know do have to keep these folder or i can simply copy them in my laptop and delete them from my phone.
do they create a problem or any kind of instability for rom or phone ? wanted to know before doing something.
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Yes both titanium backup and Clockworkmod folder(if it's named Cyanogenmod I am not sure what it is) both are backups, Clockworkmod folder contains your rom backups and titanium backup contains your app backup, You can safely copy them to your computer and use them when needed and so you can remove them from your phone for extra storage space .
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sorry yes foder name is Clockworkmod.. and thank u soo its mean removing them would not create any problem right. and why do i need my rom back (Clockworkmod folder) cm9 is working very fine
It was made by cm9 rom when first installing as a precaution.
If you are happy with your phone and don't believe you need it, you can erase it.
precaution for what?
grown ups said:
precaution for what?
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If you tried out any other roms and failed or didn't like it you can easily return back to your cm9 rom If you created a backup in CWM, this is a very useful and important feature, CWM by default creates backup in Clockworkmod folder.
For example I installed a audio driver which was not very good as expected and after I removed it, the audio driver which I had before wasn't reverted and i virtually had no sound, because of a backup i had I just easily restored to my former situation before the driver installation, so in short its like a factory reset but along with the apps we installed.
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I expect the same from others.
Using GT - I9100
I thank those who give helpful comments
I expect the same from others.
well thank u for info

[Q] My questions about android

Hi, I got myself an android phone 5 days ago and i want to learn how to use it properly so i search everything about androids phone and i think this is the best site among other sites to post this question.
1)Transferring SD partition
At first, i didn't know what is root and after learning it, i rooted my phone cause it required in order to increase my memory. I recently bought i new one which is 32GB and i already partition it(using minitool partition wizard) and i was wondering how to transfer all my installed data , phone data and my previous SD to my new one. If i simply copy paste it how about my installed app on my phone? will it cause my app to stop working? if i use titanium back up,can you show me step by step how to use it.
2)Rom manager or Goomanager (custom ROM)
I heard a lot of people saying "Do not use it","too dangerous,too risky","might brick your phone" (i don't even get it, you'll just have to follow the instruction or procedure right?)
-stock Rom and custom Rom
what so different about them? (i know for the fact that custom Rom updates quickly)but i need more information.
-what makes you want to install custom Rom, is it worth it?
-custom Rom can save battery life,make it faster,can play heavy games etc... but HOW? is that mean stock Rom drains more battery( my phone cant even survive one night), cant play heavy game or makes you lag?
-what would happen to my stock rom if i install custom rom?
-if i installed custom rom, will it cause my phone any problems? like app stop working?
-will it use up my ram or rom memory?
-why bother change another custom rom if you'll just use the popular ones?
-What else can you do on custom rom?
3) Clockworkmod recovery and Titanium back up
-Whats the different about them?
They say clockworkmod is like cloning your phone when you back up
They say Titanium back up all apps and data is like the same as cloning your phone too right or not? so whats the difference?
what should i use?
when backing up to install new custom rom, what should i choose? they say if you using titanium back up might cause some serious problem.
4)Recommend or important app
what should i install to improve my phone? like cleaner,battery save (there many kinds, i want to know which is the best)
5) Any advice for new android user
Kindly answer at least one of my noob questions that is easily to understand.
THANK YOU in advance.
wow... you have so many doubts... hahaha
Ok, here we go:
root concept is a little difficult to understand (and to explain) to anybody that never used Linux before. To put it simple, root means that you have administrator privileges, so you can do anything you desire (even break your phone very easily ).
I dunno if a plain copy can works with the ETX partition, but you can do this: Move your apps to your phone again, disable Link2SD, put your new SD, enable Link2SD and move all to the EXT partition.
If I misunderstood this, and you don't have partitioned your actual SD, forget that I said before. Copy all from the old SD to the new one, there aren't problems at all.
I don't recommend to use Titanium Backup if you're installing a completely different ROM, since it can cause problems (if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it).
Custom ROM advantages:
quick updates, as you said.
lightweight, only few apps will be installed (without the bunch of crap that carriers or manufacturers usually add).
faster than stock, mostly cases.
Many features that stock ROM doesn't have (depends of ROM and the developer).
You should choose your ROM wisely, since not all ROMs are enough stable and can cause weird problems (as forced closes, slow down the phone, random reboots...). If you're unsure, try the popular ones and choose one.
Titanium backup doesn't make a clone of your phone, only the apps and its data. As I said before, I don't recommend to use it if you're moving to another ROM (you can try to install the app as usual, and only restore its data using Titanium Backup, it's better than restore app+data).
Recovery, in the other hand, can make a full backup (even the EXT partition is saved), so this is the right way to backup when you're installing a new ROM.
You will not need anything if you choose a good ROM
The usual: search, read, search again, and understand before do anything
I hope I didn't leave something unanswered, let me know if so
RoberGalarga said:
wow... you have so many doubts... hahaha
Ok, here we go:
root concept is a little difficult to understand (and to explain) to anybody that never used Linux before. To put it simple, root means that you have administrator privileges, so you can do anything you desire (even break your phone very easily ).
I dunno if a plain copy can works with the ETX partition, but you can do this: Move your apps to your phone again, disable Link2SD, put your new SD, enable Link2SD and move all to the EXT partition.
If I misunderstood this, and you don't have partitioned your actual SD, forget that I said before. Copy all from the old SD to the new one, there aren't problems at all.
I don't recommend to use Titanium Backup if you're installing a completely different ROM, since it can cause problems (if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it).
Custom ROM advantages:
quick updates, as you said.
lightweight, only few apps will be installed (without the bunch of crap that carriers or manufacturers usually add).
faster than stock, mostly cases.
Many features that stock ROM doesn't have (depends of ROM and the developer).
You should choose your ROM wisely, since not all ROMs are enough stable and can cause weird problems (as forced closes, slow down the phone, random reboots...). If you're unsure, try the popular ones and choose one.
Titanium backup doesn't make a clone of your phone, only the apps and its data. As I said before, I don't recommend to use it if you're moving to another ROM (you can try to install the app as usual, and only restore its data using Titanium Backup, it's better than restore app+data).
Recovery, in the other hand, can make a full backup (even the EXT partition is saved), so this is the right way to backup when you're installing a new ROM.
You will not need anything if you choose a good ROM
The usual: search, read, search again, and understand before do anything
I hope I didn't leave something unanswered, let me know if so
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Thank you for the quick reply.
wow... you have so many doubts... hahaha - got tired of iphone 5 so i switch to samsung galaxy since its new, ive got to be careful.
what ways can can your phone be brick? so that i could avoid it.
I don't recommend to use Titanium Backup if you're installing a completely different ROM, since it can cause problems (if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it). what do you mean by "if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it"? are you saying if i want to revert it back to stock rom?
can you explain more clearly about question no.3 i still didn't get it.
lightweight, only few apps will be installed (without the bunch of crap that carriers or manufacturers usually add) - can you explain it like giving me examples? what examples of crap usually add? if i really did installed a custom rom, what are not from the stock are now on new rom. wont it effect my phone app data?
other said that if you installed a custom rom it might get brick.(even if the instruction followed carefully)
so what should i use to back up my phone in order to install custom rom and how? what would happen to my stock rom if i install custom rom?
how can i sure if the custom rom is suited for my phone? cyanogenmod the most popular custom rom, people said it can slow or cause problems too.
how much memory is required on installing custom rom.
should i use rom manager or goomanager?
-difference between clockworkmod recovery( and its functions) and Titanium Backup
When backing up consumes a lot of memory?
"Titanium backup doesn't make a clone of your phone, only the apps and its data" data-did you mean data from phone too? like contacts etc... if i use titanium backup and reset my phone, will it return to when i bought it? i was wondering if it will delete some icons like gallery icon youtube icon etc...because my phone is rooted.
if i use clockworkmod recovery, will it return to the way it is? some say dont use it cause it have a lot of problems.
"I dunno if a plain copy can works with the ETX partition, but you can do this: Move your apps to your phone again, disable Link2SD, put your new SD, enable Link2SD and move all to the EXT partition." so i should put all my installed app to my phone and then remove my sd card and copy all the files, cache to my new one. is that it?
Recommend or important app to improve my phone
my phone cant survive even a day. sometimes if i play games it sudden close itself and lag. if i install custom rom,can it solve my problems?
When backing up consumes a lot of memory?
Can you tell name of your mobile?
And yes, ROMs tend to make phones better in performance
ClockworkMod backup usually takes 200-300 mb for high end ICS/JB devices
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Can you tell name of your mobile?
And yes, ROMs tend to make phones better in performance
ClockworkMod backup usually takes 200-300 mb for high end ICS/JB devices
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Samsung Galaxy S4
:good: BTW, never heard of S4 lagging but you can try Greenify app.
And why do you need to expand memory?
1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste.
2. Stock ROM and Custom ROM is two different things. Basically stock ROM is the one that officially has been tested its compatibility to phones which means it is safe to use it. While Custom ROMs are different. Not all of Custom ROMs are tested and u use it by ur own risk. It is true that by using custom ROM could improve ur phone because basically the Custom ROM was maded by other people that wanted to improve what Stock ROM didn't have. Custom ROM could harm ur phone if it is not used in a right way or that the ROM doesn't match ur phone.
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc.
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions.
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Can you tell name of your mobile?
And yes, ROMs tend to make phones better in performance
ClockworkMod backup usually takes 200-300 mb for high end ICS/JB devices
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when i bought samsung(rooted), i got free huawei ascend y210d (y210-200) yet to be rooted though(thats why iam asking about sd partition in advance), when i use poot.akp from this site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204259.
I got this error:
2012 giantpune
[+] opened device
[+] Set logging mode
[+] Resolved symbols
[+] Mapped 0x10000000
[+] Hooked 0xc02fcf6c
[-] Error running kernel-mode code
[-] Failed to clean up our mess
[-] Current && current != last + 1: 0000ffff 0000ffff
[-] Haxx has run its coarse. Reboot the device to play again
A demon materialized while pooting. Error code: 87
su binary was not written
You need to restart your device
Qijos said:
1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste.
2. Stock ROM and Custom ROM is two different things. Basically stock ROM is the one that officially has been tested its compatibility to phones which means it is safe to use it. While Custom ROMs are different. Not all of Custom ROMs are tested and u use it by ur own risk. It is true that by using custom ROM could improve ur phone because basically the Custom ROM was maded by other people that wanted to improve what Stock ROM didn't have. Custom ROM could harm ur phone if it is not used in a right way or that the ROM doesn't match ur phone.
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc.
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions.
Sent from my WT19i using xda premium
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1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste. - so i use link2sd to move my installed app to sd then copy paste all ?
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc. - basically i need both? cwm for when installing new rom then titanium backup is for data and app, is that it?
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions. - got it thanks
freezcool said:
1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste. - so i use link2sd to move my installed app to sd then copy paste all ?
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc. - basically i need both? cwm for when installing new rom then titanium backup is for data and app, is that it?
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions. - got it thanks
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1. Move your installed apps by using link2sd, or u can also move it by using ROM toolbox. only the installed apps that u thinks u should move. for Video, Music, Pictures, etc. u can move them by a simple 'cut' 'paste' method.
3. Yup, remember to backup all ur data first in Titanium before u download n install new ROM..

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