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Hi guys!
So still learning my tablet to know and at the moment I have managed to make different wallpapers for each screen and downloaded some funny games.
So now I'm hungry for new experince! (Can you even say this in english? )
All the time people are talking about rooting their devices, is it the same thing when you jailbreak an iPhone? And when you do it, what does it to your device?
I'm really carefull about doing anything stupid since I'm from Europe and bought my Galaxy 10.1 in US.
Then people are talking about asus widgets and they have to push them to certain folders. I'm like
Something i'm really curious about, how do I get some new icons for my stuff? I would like to change some of them, but where do I get them? I have the Desktop Visualizer but need the icons.
What is honeycumb? Touchwiz is the interface we use navigate within our tablet, right?
I really want to learn this stuff, but when I read about it, i'm lost from the start. Everything I can tell me, so I can understand you guys in the forum would really be appreciated!
So, I'm by no means any techie who dares to compare myself to any of the geniuses in here.
But I can help you out a little bit..!
Rooting is nothing more than giving yourself full control over your tablet. When you're NOT rootet, certain aspects of controlling the tab is "locked", so to speak. And that goes for the apps, you install to. Certain files can not be changed, over-written, deleted or even just "watched", if you're not rooted. It's kinda like giving admin-rights on a PC..
Honeycomb is nothing more than the name of the Android-version for tablets, and Touchwiz is the interface and framework Samsung uses for all its Android-product - a way to differ from the other android-products. This tab was first sold without Touchwiz in some parts of the world (running barebone Honeycomb) and then got a touchwiz-update later on. Many of Samsungs own apps will not work on even Samsung-devices, if they do not have TW installed, as they're based on TW-framework.
Pushing something to a given directory basically means copying/moving it to that directory. However, as these directories are mostly "locked" folders, you will need to be have rooted your tab to do this. The "pushing"-term comes from using ADB, where you use a command that says to push the given file to the given directory. Most times off, though, you can do this with a simple file manager (with root-rights ) on your tab.
The only way I know to get new icons is to either
a) Use another Launcher or
b) flash a custom rom with other icons.
However, I'm sure there are other way to do this, that I'm not aware of myself
Hope this helps a bit. Tried not to make it too long and confusing, but I'm not so sure that went too well
Launchers like ADW EX allow you to download "theme" packs, which usually contain a lot of different and new icons.
How did you get a different wallpaper on each screen? Edit: Multipicture Live Wallpaper lets you do this.
DelLoce said:
Rooting is nothing more than giving yourself full control over your tablet. When you're NOT rootet, certain aspects of controlling the tab is "locked", so to speak. And that goes for the apps, you install to. Certain files can not be changed, over-written, deleted or even just "watched", if you're not rooted. It's kinda like giving admin-rights on a PC..
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Ok, that I get. Also what I thought, so almost the same thing jailbreaking and iPhone, but people with the galaxy have many more options afterwards.
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Honeycomb is nothing more than the name of the Android-version for tablets, and Touchwiz is the interface and framework Samsung uses for all its Android-product - a way to differ from the other android-products. This tab was first sold without Touchwiz in some parts of the world (running barebone Honeycomb) and then got a touchwiz-update later on. Many of Samsungs own apps will not work on even Samsung-devices, if they do not have TW installed, as they're based on TW-framework.
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If I'm not tottaly wrong we are using Android 3.2 / 3.1 and that is what we call Honeycomb? Simply the name of the Android version. And as I thought, Touchwiz is the interface. I read somewhere it was sold without Touchwiz, but what difference does Touchwiz make? As I wrote, I bought in the US but I have no idea whether I had touchwiz or not. There came some new things after the update, "Indstillinger (Its on danish, dont know the word in english, but maybe "options"?) was completely change from black to white.
DelLoce said:
Pushing something to a given directory basically means copying/moving it to that directory. However, as these directories are mostly "locked" folders, you will need to be have rooted your tab to do this. The "pushing"-term comes from using ADB, where you use a command that says to push the given file to the given directory. Most times off, though, you can do this with a simple file manager (with root-rights ) on your tab.
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Ok, so when people are talking about pushing something, that probably 'cause they have rooted their device? Not when I simply move a picture from one place to another?
DelLoce said:
The only way I know to get new icons is to either
a) Use another Launcher or
b) flash a custom rom with other icons.
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Another launcher, you mean another thing then Touchwiz?
Flash a custom rom? I'm lost again
That helped a lot! If you can explain me what "flash a custom rom" means, and simply "flash" and "rom".
Thank you !!
Mad A said:
Launchers like ADW EX allow you to download "theme" packs, which usually contain a lot of different and new icons.
How did you get a different wallpaper on each screen? Edit: Multipicture Live Wallpaper lets you do this.
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What do you mean by "launchers" ? And yep, to get different wallpapers I downloaded and used multipicture live Wallpaper, but dont know if I like it that much, it seems to cause lag.
Thanks to you two, I can follow other peoples conversation easiere
Thor S said:
What do you mean by "launchers" ? And yep, to get different wallpapers I downloaded and used multipicture live Wallpaper, but dont know if I like it that much, it seems to cause lag.
Thanks to you two, I can follow other peoples conversation easiere
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A Launcher is basically the the desktop of your tablet/phone. It is what displays the shortcuts, application list, widgets etc. that you are using. It is used to 'launch' all other applications on your device. So if you don't like the default launcher on your phone or Tablet, you can use one from the marketplace. there are lots of different options but so far I only know for sure that ADW EX supports honeycomb (Android 3.x)
If you have ADW EX, you can download ADW Themes from the market, and those will change up the appearance of your device, including icons.
I just rooted my galaxy 10.1 tab which made a HUGE difference in how smooth and fast it runs. Prior to that I had no root experience at all.
So now I had my atrix a while and spent so much time configuring and tweaking every little thing. I'm quite happy with it as is. So is there any good reason for me to root? I know I could enable tethering that way, which is something I consider. But otherwise why else if things run smooth as is and battery life is fine. How much of this is restorable? Specifically the Go launcher settings and desktop screens, I don't think I'd end up using a different launcher.
FYI here's whats on at any given time.
Go Launcher w/ all anims
Go contacts
Go calendar
Go facebook
Go task manager
Android Agenda Widget
WP clock (live wallpaper)
Elixir widget
Widget locker
Watchdog
Accuweather widget
Smart Keyboard Pro
thx all
Just go unlok your boot loader you noob
For reals though, you can install custom Roms, overclocked kernels, etc. once your boot loader is unlocked. And no, unlocking or rooting will not affect any of your widgets or apps or anything, unless you install a deblurred ROM, in which case any Motoblur widgets would be affected... you have no idea what I just said, do you
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Swiftks said:
Just go unlok your boot loader you noob
For reals though, you can install custom Roms, overclocked kernels, etc. once your boot loader is unlocked. And no, unlocking or rooting will not affect any of your widgets or apps or anything, unless you install a deblurred ROM, in which case any Motoblur widgets would be affected... you have no idea what I just said, do you
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Well a little. But since my only Root and Rom experience required a full wipe I'm not sure how to do it. Can I just follow a DroidDemos tutorial and root without the wipe. Then at least I can back up and restore exactly how things are. I dont use any blur widgets, but there's a concern that some of the widgets I use are somehow dependent on blur or stuff synced to blur.
Regarding custom ROMS, if I'm just gonna run Go Launcher on top and it runs well now, why bother with that or overclocking?
I'm not trying to talk myself or anyone out of it, just trying to better understand.
I can make a backup of Go Launcher, if that's re-installable in 1 click that'd save ALOT of trouble.
pootown said:
Well a little. But since my only Root and Rom experience required a full wipe I'm not sure how to do it. Can I just follow a DroidDemos tutorial and root without the wipe. Then at least I can back up and restore exactly how things are. I dont use any blur widgets, but there's a concern that some of the widgets I use are somehow dependent on blur or stuff synced to blur.
Regarding custom ROMS, if I'm just gonna run Go Launcher on top and it runs well now, why bother with that or overclocking?
I'm not trying to talk myself or anyone out of it, just trying to better understand.
I can make a backup of Go Launcher, if that's re-installable in 1 click that'd save ALOT of trouble.
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Check out my Noob guide for some info., links, etc....it's at the top of the general section.
As far as why would you want to? Some possible reasons:
- free up ram/space by running a debloated ROM.
- increase speed by not having bloat run in background.
- increase speed by overclocking a custom kernel.
- More customization with a custom ROM.
- CWM/Nandroid backup
Your launcher has nothing to do with a ROM, you can run which ever launcher tou want on top of any ROM.
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Appreciate it. I have read some other guides in the past but a personal answer goes a long way.
cm7 is worth it, if your still on froyo (i was as gb not released for my carrier) then even more reason to as some of the gingerbread features are nice. cm7 has so many options that should be there in the first place
I was going to wait for a new cm7 beta but this one has impressed me and have yet to encounter any major bugs
Yeah that seems to be the one. I have gb tho so its not for that. Tether and uninstal some blur apps is main reason.
if you just want to do that and dont want to get in with the custom roms root is very easy to acheive and you would not loose any data or even home screen setups that you have.
Definitally root it but its up to you weather to instal custom roms.
my personal opinion would be to unlock the bootloader and flash away
pootown said:
I just rooted my galaxy 10.1 tab which made a HUGE difference in how smooth and fast it runs. Prior to that I had no root experience at all.
So now I had my atrix a while and spent so much time configuring and tweaking every little thing. I'm quite happy with it as is. So is there any good reason for me to root? I know I could enable tethering that way, which is something I consider. But otherwise why else if things run smooth as is and battery life is fine. How much of this is restorable? Specifically the Go launcher settings and desktop screens, I don't think I'd end up using a different launcher.
FYI here's whats on at any given time.
Go Launcher w/ all anims
Go contacts
Go calendar
Go facebook
Go task manager
Android Agenda Widget
WP clock (live wallpaper)
Elixir widget
Widget locker
Watchdog
Accuweather widget
Smart Keyboard Pro
thx all
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It sounds like you have a good understanding of what you want from your phone, and it sounds like your current setup meets or exceeds your expectations. You hit the nail on the head imo when you named tethering as a top reason to root, if that is a feature you need (w/o being charged extra for the same data), then yes go ahead and root unlock or both. However, if you really are happy with your current setup/speed/battery, i say keep it!! No reason to fix whats not broken. Dont feel like you have to do these things to your phone just because others are calling you a noob. Have a look at the list of root apps (in my sig) and that might help you know if there is anything you cant live without.
so...now that we have an unlocked bootloader and development will start pouring in, i have a question for you all
i have hubs...i love my hubs
(adw ex)
but it takes a hell of a long time to install the hubs..if i flash a new rom, is there any way to restore those widgets?
i would have to install adw ex, i am assuming
can i just save the current settings and then reinstall adw after flashing rom and restore the settings in adw? will that bring everything to what it is now?
just want some info for anyone who has tried this already or knows..
thanks!
I have tried to backup the settings and what not but everytime I restore them the widgets always states.... problem loading widget, so I have to replace the widget back, a real pain but it has to be done when you flash alot of different roms as far as I can tell. I have tried doing it via titanium backup as well same result.
that's what i was scared of...back in my droid days, i got that "problem loading widget" when restoring settings with launcherpro plus...probably a common problem with all launchers..they just can't accurately save data/widgets in order to restore them...
hopefully something comes out that could support it
i am going to wait to flash any rom because of how long it takes...it really would have to blow me away with its' stats for it to be worth it..
truthlesshero said:
that's what i was scared of...back in my droid days, i got that "problem loading widget" when restoring settings with launcherpro plus...probably a common problem with all launchers..they just can't accurately save data/widgets in order to restore them...
hopefully something comes out that could support it
i am going to wait to flash any rom because of how long it takes...it really would have to blow me away with its' stats for it to be worth it..
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I'm with you. I have 8 hubs and it took several hours to set this up once.
I remember spending hours on getting pages set up with heavy use of the Minimalistic Text widget on my Droid X2, being all proud about it, and then becoming a flash-addict only to find the dreaded "problem loading widget". Wish they could fix this soon but I'm sitting on the sideline for now as far as unlocking my bootloader anyway.
The question is, how long can I hold out? Getting my flash-fix through my X2 will only satisfy for so long...
i'm sure some people have figured it out...but i just wanted to give an update to my question...
nova launcher is almost perfect in restoring widgets..so as long as you use nova launcher between roms or doing whatever, it'll restore your widgets and settings almost perfectly...
saves a lot of time...especially on my flash happy galaxy nexus...but helps with the prime as well, so in case someone stumbles on this forum, hopefully that'll help them out...
you must use nova launcher first...save your settings, then when you do a clean wipe and flash a rom...install all your old apps via titanium or whatever, then restore settings back with nova and voila, all widgets and such will be restored..
I checked the title suggestions and the S3 doesn't have a solution in them... The suggestions for other phones don't seem very good either, although I will take a look at LauncherPro.
Question:
Is there a way to restore widgets to their correct screens and locations? I like trying ROMs and I've got saving/restoring my data and apps down so I don't lose anything but widgets are a pain. I get the big red rectangles but not the widgets. Have no problems paying for an app that does it, so I'm not just looking for a freebie handout.
Ideally the app would also restore apps and data into a new ROM, but I'd be happy if it just looked after my widgets. I run 7 home screens and have my Launcher at 6 columns x 7 rows - I don't mind having to set that up prior to restore but again, ideally it would be nice if the app would restore those settings.
*grins* Not asking much... am I?
Journyman16 said:
I checked the title suggestions and the S3 doesn't have a solution in them... The suggestions for other phones don't seem very good either, although I will take a look at LauncherPro.
Question:
Is there a way to restore widgets to their correct screens and locations? I like trying ROMs and I've got saving/restoring my data and apps down so I don't lose anything but widgets are a pain. I get the big red rectangles but not the widgets. Have no problems paying for an app that does it, so I'm not just looking for a freebie handout.
Ideally the app would also restore apps and data into a new ROM, but I'd be happy if it just looked after my widgets. I run 7 home screens and have my Launcher at 6 columns x 7 rows - I don't mind having to set that up prior to restore but again, ideally it would be nice if the app would restore those settings.
*grins* Not asking much... am I?
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From my experience, which is limited to Apex Pro, I can tell you that restoring the home screens work for logos & folders of apps, whereas somehow my widgets (I got 1 widget, which is the calendar in agenda view) does not work somehow. Maybe other launchers can do it though.
Thanks chrismast - it seems to be an issue. I can't find anything on Playstore that specifically says it will restore widgets, even if you're on a stock layout. Maybe it is too hard given all the changes and layouts people have on their devices? le sigh...
Its very rare to restore Widgets as they were.
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@rootSU - do you mean it is rare that people put widgets back as they were or that it is rare to be able to restore them as they were? The 2nd one, yep! Having all kinds of problems trying to find a way to do it automatically. The 1st possibility - I like to try different ROMs and see what they are like to use - to do that I really need to have the same set up in each so I can compare. Restoring widgets to what they were before an upgrade seems a logical thing to do, so I am puzzled it hasn't been addressed before now.
Maybe I am just a bit odd?
Journyman16 said:
@rootSU - do you mean it is rare that people put widgets back as they were or that it is rare to be able to restore them as they were? The 2nd one, yep! Having all kinds of problems trying to find a way to do it automatically. The 1st possibility - I like to try different ROMs and see what they are like to use - to do that I really need to have the same set up in each so I can compare. Restoring widgets to what they were before an upgrade seems a logical thing to do, so I am puzzled it hasn't been addressed before now.
Maybe I am just a bit odd?
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Yes the latter. I ONCE managed to restore fully using titanium backup. I suppose it depends on the type of widgets. Go launcher and Nova have internal backup features, but all it does is put the widgets in their places. I still have to "tap to restore widget" which for some is great, they just pop back up but others that are configurable, i still have to go through all the config again.
nova launcher prime does a superb job of this
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nova launcher prime does a superb job of this
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Not for me. Once I restore widgets like:
Tasker tasks
Set CPU
Beautiful Widgets
Pure Calendar
Simi Clock
I have to go into each and set my preferred settings.
Hi,
I got root and actual backups.
Sometimes my Wigets or App Icons get lost from desktop (mostly Widgets).
Which file/database contains those Widget placement so I can restore it? (4.4.2)
Since this happens quite often and I mostly don't know where which Widget was...
Anybody who can help?
Gorkde said:
Hi,
I got root and actual backups.
Sometimes my Wigets or App Icons get lost from desktop (mostly Widgets).
Which file/database contains those Widget placement so I can restore it? (4.4.2)
Since this happens quite often and I mostly don't know where which Widget was...
Anybody who can help?
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They are stored in the data partition for the app using them. This normally happens of the app is on the sdcard which should never be done.
But often all Widgets get lost the same time and they are NOT all on the SD in my case.
So there must be any other Place where the allover placement is saved
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But often all Widgets get lost the same time and they are NOT all on the SD in my case.
So there must be any other Place where the allover placement is saved
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The layout for then are stored in the launcher files. You don't have your lather on sd card do you?
No I don't, got Phoenix rom which has the Samsung Launcher, do you know which file exactly has the Layout?
Phoenix 9.4
No I dont. It is different for each launcher and I stopped using touch wiz many years ago due to it being unstable
Anyone?
Which Launcher do u use now?
Gorkde said:
Anyone?
Which Launcher do u use now?
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I use either Nova or action launcher. Nova is the over all best launcher if you were to ask anyone here. Most people use that one.