Is it true that xperia p is scratch resistant glass? If true i want to remove the screen protecter
Don't think so
william tham said:
Is it true that xperia p is scratch resistant glass? If true i want to remove the screen protecter
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The screen is not resistant to scratches, in my personal experience. It seems there is a mineral coating on the glass which makes it shatter proof (can be seen on top edge of phone)
Its not mineral coating, its just screen protector, u can remove it..
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Ok.. Thanks for the reply:good:
According to Sony, the phone has a hard coated shatter proof laminate sheet over scratch resistant mineral glass. In some countries, the package includes an extra screen protector which can be removed. The laminate sheet is not scratch resistant (I have big scratch on my screen, testimony to that fact) but it can also be removed. You can check the Sony forums and youtube for more details. http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/41307?start=0&tstart=0
jahadmajeed said:
According to Sony, the phone has a hard coated shatter proof laminate sheet over scratch resistant mineral glass. In some countries, the package includes an extra screen protector which can be removed. The laminate sheet is not scratch resistant (I have big scratch on my screen, testimony to that fact) but it can also be removed. You can check the Sony forums and youtube for more details. http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/41307?start=0&tstart=0
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I know that, mineral glass is scratch resistant, and laminate sheet (aka fabric screen protector) is not. I removed mine a couple days ago and it's way better without it, but still screen is not that scratch resistant like gorilla glass 1 and 2.
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neoxx3m said:
I know that, mineral glass is scratch resistant, and laminate sheet (aka fabric screen protector) is not. I removed mine a couple days ago and it's way better without it, but still screen is not that scratch resistant like gorilla glass 1 and 2.
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It's not as good as gorilla glass?! Then l'll have to be more careful... I had the HTC legend before, which did not have a single scratch after two years of throwing around
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Does Gorilla glass on SGS2 requires screen protector / scratch guard ?
I read it's scratch resistant but not scratch proof. I'm planning on using a flip case like Zenus Carbon flip case so it has some protection on screen but might forgo the screen protector ? Haven't decided yet.
Looking at my leather case from phone in pocket small scratches .
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Dam, you had to say that heh. Looks like maybe screen protector is needed after all
I was really careful with my s1 and still managed to get small scratches on the screen. Gorilla glass seems to be fine with things like keys and stuff, but sand particles or anything similar will scratch the screen very easily.
Always make sure you have clean pockets or a clean case.
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Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
Shylesh said:
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Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
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Would you recommend some best brands.
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
I really love the screen on my phone and am loathe to put anything on it that will get in the way of it or ruin the feel when stroking the screen. I am looking to get a Zeuz carbon flip case which has micro fibre inner lining which is meant to prevent rubbing scratching the screen. Reading this thread has me wondering now
Pwgadget said:
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
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Keys tend to be made from brass which is very soft. Sand however is much harder, mostly silicon with a MOHS value of 7 and will scratch glass and mild steel very easily.
Brass (Keys)= 3.5 MOHS
Steel = 5.5 - 7 MOHS
Sand = 7 MOHS
Gorilla glass???
now thats the question
Mustinky said:
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
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i have had my captivate for a year, totally naked the whole time, the only scratches i see, are very small, and only visible in bright light at different angles. I hate screen protectors, my infuse, and inspire are also naked, so i will not be putting one on my SGS2 either
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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Flowlance said:
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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I have a gravel drive way, one fall on my driveway screen side and it's bye bye. lol
Extreme184X said:
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
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I've had every iPhone since the original and have NEVER (I repeat NEVER) scratched the screen (not even a miniscule scratch). That being said, on the iPhone 4 I've noticed many small little scratches on the back glass which says to me it's a different type of glass.
Assuming the SGS2 has the same glass as the front of the i4, I'll be keeping the front naked the way g-d (or Samsung) intended.
yep, sand is bad. Very abrasive. That why repair shops and auto body shops have sandpaper, sandblasters, sanding discs, etc. Sand will scratch anything but a diamond. Diamond is the hardest element on earth, so don't put your diamond earrings or wedding ring in your pocket with your phone. You'll be sorry lol
Satyakumar said:
Would you recommend some best brands.
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There is a detailed thread dedicated to this in the accessories section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065384
but I stand by
http://www.skinomi.com/
Had my SGS 2 for three days. Deep scratches in the glass. Gorilla glass my ass. Sad joke
Gorilla Glass or not, i'll put a screen protector on my phone...
Many websites had said that Radar has gorilla glass.
But what do u, radar users, have to say?
Had u scratch it already?
giver ur own opinion!
The radar has no glass
no gorilla glass!?
that is a tremendous no no to me :|
MJCS said:
The radar has no glass
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mine got contact lens
I think it does because I haven't scratched the screen yet, had the iphone 4 and it didnt last a month without a hairline scratch from my pocket, this one still looks new :-D
Yahiko said:
Many websites had said that Radar has gorilla glass.
But what do u, radar users, have to say?
Had u scratch it already?
giver ur own opinion!
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According to the HTC Technical Support, yes, it is Gorilla Glass...
But whether it is Gorilla Glass or not, it is NOT scratch proof. Put on a screen protector before it is too late. No display is scratch proof yet.
Yes it does have gorilla glass on it.
I have a DVP with gorilla glass and the radar. I tell you that the radar has no gorilla glass.
I have a small scratch on my screen Tiny one, but some how I manage to made it
Corning Gorilla Glass is a requirement for all Windows Phones. Although as stated above, nothing is scratch proof...
Corning Gorilla Glass is NOT a requirement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=VG_rNKOshc8
from the video... the guy does a scratch test with keys...
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Yes it does have gorilla glass on it.
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i don't think so!
It does have gorilla glass.
my Mozart has Gorrilla glass, doesn't mean it doesn't scratch. Just because someone has tested gorrilla glass ona random model and it didn't scratch doesn't mean yours wont.
Unfortunately not all Gorrilla glass is made equal, usually their 'show off' glass it much stronger. It took almost nothing for me to scratch my phone, I second whoelsec in saying put a screen protector on before it's too late!
The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
Screenshot of the bought screenprotectors:
http://db.tt/O2iOYjki
Well put another one like that, its almost impossible, already its a thread in here for that, how to remove it and the options for a new one
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The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
Screenshot of the bought screenprotectors:
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That's because you're supposed to cover the anti-shatter sheet (which is not a screen protector just anti-shatter) with a screen protector that you can easily replace.
I just posted a thread in this same forum section about official Sony ones I got from Japan. But remember they are not the same as your anti-shatter sheet, you're supposed to put them on top of the anti-shatter sheet.
In terms of what they cover, they are the closest to the anti-shatter sheet as they cover all the sensors, the Sony ones just don't cover the camera and the earpiece.
If you order the Sony potector, you have two choices. You can either put it on top of the anti-shatter sheetand hope you wont be able to see the scratch anymore through this one or you can remove the anti-shatter sheet and place this one down alone. Its up to you.
I've already removed the sheet. It's now completely free of protection as I screwed up putting on the screen protector.
It's more sensitive dust and fingermarks now, but overall I'm happy. Will be placing a screen protector on it soon again when I get around to it.
Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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richteralan said:
Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
Should i remove the screen protector
I have Scractched My Sony Xperia S , and it kinds of irritates when there is more White ,, I heard and read that the factory applied screen Protector can be removed, the Question is , is it a screen Protector or a shatter Protector..
In the case i do remove it how do i clean the glass if there is any residue gum and will it affect the screen in any way... Should i Put on a New screen Protector Once i Remove the original Factory fitted one.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
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does Xperia U have the same screen shatter protector? mine is scratched in the second day, now I applied a screen protector over it
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Yes it is a shatter protector thick layer, I damaged mine too (Xperia P), I removed it and then applied a good quality screen protector, no residue no marks are left when the shatter protection is removed, hope this helps.
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I had no idea the provided protectors had to go on top of the already applied one. Is it written in the manual/instructions?
Anyway, what is a good screen protector that can replace the shatter one to a good enough standard? I have scratches on mine, a rather large scuff over the front camera, making it unusable. So I suppose I could remove it and replace it with a protector?
Any recommendations?
It doesn't prevent shatter, i know that for a fact!
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Thats probably why it's not called a shatter preventor protector
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How easily can the screen without the preapplied protector be scratched? Just from carrying in a jeans pocket?
Should I apply a screenprotector if I remove the original one?
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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This.
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Yeah if I put my face up to the screen during direct sunlight I can just make out tiny scratches. Some of them are not permanent and some clearly are. The screen has been very good vs heavy scratches, but still gets light scratches like every other phone screen I have had. If you were to put a screen protector on you wouldnt even notice the scratches. Light scratches will always happen and it doesnt really bother me unless I can see them.
Edit: I did receive a free Spigen screen protector so I will try it out and see if I like it or not just for the hell of it. Generally though I prefer the naked screen and even my old hero with gorilla glass 1 came through just fine except for the minute almost imperceptible scraches.
Folks, Gorilla Glass is a marketing ploy. It doesn't offer any real scratch resistance over normal glass, but the compound it's made of makes it less likely to shatter (two different things). When it comes to scratch resistance, you're looking at the Mohs scale.
Mohs scale of mineral hardness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You may be more familiar with this than you think. Diamond is a 10, the hardest substance known to man. Diamond can only be scratched by another diamond or a laser.
Glass has a rating of 6-7, depending on the hardness of the glass. Plastic is a 3-4.
If you take your keys over a glass screen (or a glass window), touch it to the surface, and rub with a little pressure (just enough to gain a degree of resistance), you WILL NOT scratch the glass. I've even scared the crap out of someone by hacking at my Zune HD's screen with a carbon-steel steak knife, and not a scratch.
So what will cause you to scratch your glass screen? Two things;
-a softer material (like metal) and force, not resistance. Yes, if you slam something into the screen, it may very well get a small crack, small enough that we see it as a scratch. Because, while glass is very scratch resistant, it easily shatters. It's force that gives us those small "scratches."
-dirt/sand - Sand (quartz sand, specifically) is an active ingredient in glass. If you get small particles of sand or other types of dirt on the screen and then wipe it off with your shirt (or even a microfiber cloth), you can develop small scratches in your screen. The most annoying is those who wipe with a circular motion, as it leaves rings in the screen. Want to avoid this? Take a SMALL amount of Endust for Electronics and a paper towel and gently wipe off the screen. The liquid will act as a buffer between the screen and the dirt. Then, take a microfiber cloth (those little eyeglass cleaning cloths that come with screen protectors) and wipe off the residue left by the Endust and any pieces of the paper towel.
When you use a quality screen protector (SGP, Clarivu, Martin Fields), you're putting a plastic overlay over the phone. While this will scratch more easily than the glass screen, if applied correctly, it acts as a shock absorber, thus making it harder for the screen to shatter. It protects from scratches by taking the scratches itself, and it protects from shattering by absorbing the force of the blow.
The wet applications like the Invisible Shield are so thin that they don't noticeably increase shatter resistance. They'll just keep the screen together when shattered. The Invisible Shield is harder to scratch though, making it so that you don't have to replace it as often (it looks nicer longer than a normal plastic screen protector). Basically, it protects from scratches by deflecting them, but doesn't offer any real shock absorption.
Gorilla glass claims a hardness of 9 on Mohs scale which is utter bs. It realistically has a hardness of about 7-7.5 max. Normal glass can range from 6-7.2 depending on the type. Diamond is 10 and Sapphire is 9 which is what the make high end watch faces out of but is damn expensive. If Gorilla Glass was a 9 then they would use it for the watch faces since it is much much cheaper. I have a Citizen watch that has sapphire and the face is scratched as **** because I have had it for 12 years.
Remember as long as the scratches are the insanely small type caused by sand grains and such, you can easily get some special polish and buff those right out. The one nice thing about our screens not having oleophobic coating is you dont have to worry about damaging the coating when you polish it.
The best way for a manufacturer to reduce scratches is to put a chin on the phone like the Hero had. This way the phone screen never touches the ground.
When I got the phone I thought that the phone had one screen protector installed and that the other one in the packge was spare. How wrong I was. Now the shatter-resistant protector is full of small scrathes, even tough I haven't had keys or anything else on the same pocket. I've had the phone for about three months now.
I ordered Martin Shields few days ago, and I'm going to replave the shatter-resistant protector with that.
I had Wrapsol on my Galaxy Note and was pretty satisfied with it, but unfortunately they don't make one for P. My wife has Zagg on her Galaxy S, but it's bit too stick for my taste.
I put a screen protector on today to test it with one and it was on for all of 30 seconds before I tore it off. I just cant stand the things. Perfect thing for me would be a fold over case but as I use my left hand for the phone, they all fold the wrong way.
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
revan17 said:
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
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It gets better after a while. Mine is nice and smooth. I got a free spigen clear with my case but it didn't feel as good as bare glass.
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I can't stand the edge it adds by the bar on the bottom.
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I've got a screen protector on my ZU but I'm scared of using a pencil as a stylus regularly for fear of damaging the stock screen protector and the screen itself. Do you recommend using a pencil regularly (write, browse, etc.) or advice against it? Thanks a lot!
ChillyChan said:
I've got a screen protector on my ZU but I'm scared of using a pencil as a stylus regularly for fear of damaging the stock screen protector and the screen itself. Do you recommend using a pencil regularly (write, browse, etc.) or advice against it? Thanks a lot!
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NO. DONT. I ****ING RUINED my screen protector.
Agreed - do not use a pencil or stylus on the screen. Put another screen protector on the device before using any type of styli
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Thank you both!
I was pretty sure I saw some Sony video where they specifically mention the screen is hardened glass just for that reason, so you could use a regular pen or pencil if you wanted too. It was designed for such writing...
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I was pretty sure I saw some Sony video where they specifically mention the screen is hardened glass just for that reason, so you could use a regular pen or pencil if you wanted too. It was designed for such writing...
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Sure, glass is glass, but plastic (which the protector is made of) is platic, and it will scratch.
I second what everybody else said, as I scratched the protector I put on and I had to change it.
A pen is actually less likely to scratch the plastic as the pencil can be roughly sharpened, while a pen or something in aluminium with a rounded tip is perfect.
Anyway, I have a matte screen protector on and it definitely seems less likely to get scratched...
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I guess I don't understand why people are using screen protectors? In the old days the screens could be scratch easily, but today's cellphone are using very durable hardened glass. Its pretty hard to scratch the glass...
Maybe i'm missing something?
Remember that most of Sony's smartphones now have an Anti Shatter Sheet applied to the scratch resistant glass. This sheet is plastic and scratches so very easily. A lot of us have to put a screen protector on top of this sheet so as not to scratch it. Of course you can easily remove this sheet but doing so also removes the Sony logo on the front of the phone as well as voiding your warranty.
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keithleyson said:
Remember that most of Sony's smartphones now have an Anti Shatter Sheet applied to the scratch resistant glass. This sheet is plastic and scratches so very easily. A lot of us have to put a screen protector on top of this sheet so as not to scratch it. Of course you can easily remove this sheet but doing so also removes the Sony logo on the front of the phone as well as voiding your warranty.
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That is good info. But Since the phone is designed to be used with a pen or pencil as a stylus I would imagine its still plenty hard enough?
And consumers would have that assumption given that Sony's ads show people using a metal tip pen and a pencil to write on the device. But as many users here can attest, that is all marketing bull****. I am even doubting their glass screen to be nothing special (not dragon trail or gorilla glass) - my guess it is just ordinary glass that breaks easily hence them placing an Anti Shatter Sheet.
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omniphil said:
I guess I don't understand why people are using screen protectors? In the old days the screens could be scratch easily, but today's cellphone are using very durable hardened glass. Its pretty hard to scratch the glass...
Maybe i'm missing something?
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you are not missing anything, please sir, continue to use pencils and pens on your xperia z ultra naked. Use them hard and press them with your might, as it might make you realise some day that there is a factory anti-shatter screen protector on top of the hardened glass. But until then, please puncture the screen with all your might
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keithleyson said:
And consumers would have that assumption given that Sony's ads show people using a metal tip pen and a pencil to write on the device. But as many users here can attest, that is all marketing bull****. I am even doubting their glass screen to be nothing special (not dragon trail or gorilla glass) - my guess it is just ordinary glass that breaks easily hence them placing an Anti Shatter Sheet.
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dragon tail and gorilla glass will shatter upon impact, even diamond will shatter if you hit it with another rock
Is anyone using their Pro 7 without any main screen protection? I'm interested how good or bad is the screen when there is no film or glass to protect it. Can you post your impressions?
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Is anyone using their Pro 7 without any main screen protection? I'm interested how good or bad is the screen when there is no film or glass to protect it. Can you post your impressions?
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I had it 10 days without case and glass. It had a few falls on my wooden floor nothing happened. Now i have it protected though.i think it has gorilla glass 5 that is decent protection
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I had it 10 days without case and glass. It had a few falls on my wooden floor nothing happened. Now i have it protected though.i think it has gorilla glass 5 that is decent protection
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Thanks.
As far as I could inform, there is only scratch resistant glass on the screen, no website mention to have some kind of Gorilla Glass.
What kind of protection are you using? Full screen glass (as they say, 3D) with coloured sides, flat glass or film?
I tried three kinds of film (even from Nillkin) but neither of them glued completely on the sides and the smears from fingers were terrible.
cris2d2 said:
Thanks.
As far as I could inform, there is only scratch resistant glass on the screen, no website mention to have some kind of Gorilla Glass.
What kind of protection are you using? Full screen glass (as they say, 3D) with coloured sides, flat glass or film?
I tried three kinds of film (even from Nillkin) but neither of them glued completely on the sides and the smears from fingers were terrible.
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I have a simple glass dont remember the firm . And a light blue meizu case. About the nilikin films you said i have one applied to my mia1 i found with a case . smears are an issue but it glued ok .