I've got a screen protector on my ZU but I'm scared of using a pencil as a stylus regularly for fear of damaging the stock screen protector and the screen itself. Do you recommend using a pencil regularly (write, browse, etc.) or advice against it? Thanks a lot!
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I've got a screen protector on my ZU but I'm scared of using a pencil as a stylus regularly for fear of damaging the stock screen protector and the screen itself. Do you recommend using a pencil regularly (write, browse, etc.) or advice against it? Thanks a lot!
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NO. DONT. I ****ING RUINED my screen protector.
Agreed - do not use a pencil or stylus on the screen. Put another screen protector on the device before using any type of styli
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Thank you both!
I was pretty sure I saw some Sony video where they specifically mention the screen is hardened glass just for that reason, so you could use a regular pen or pencil if you wanted too. It was designed for such writing...
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I was pretty sure I saw some Sony video where they specifically mention the screen is hardened glass just for that reason, so you could use a regular pen or pencil if you wanted too. It was designed for such writing...
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Sure, glass is glass, but plastic (which the protector is made of) is platic, and it will scratch.
I second what everybody else said, as I scratched the protector I put on and I had to change it.
A pen is actually less likely to scratch the plastic as the pencil can be roughly sharpened, while a pen or something in aluminium with a rounded tip is perfect.
Anyway, I have a matte screen protector on and it definitely seems less likely to get scratched...
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I guess I don't understand why people are using screen protectors? In the old days the screens could be scratch easily, but today's cellphone are using very durable hardened glass. Its pretty hard to scratch the glass...
Maybe i'm missing something?
Remember that most of Sony's smartphones now have an Anti Shatter Sheet applied to the scratch resistant glass. This sheet is plastic and scratches so very easily. A lot of us have to put a screen protector on top of this sheet so as not to scratch it. Of course you can easily remove this sheet but doing so also removes the Sony logo on the front of the phone as well as voiding your warranty.
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Remember that most of Sony's smartphones now have an Anti Shatter Sheet applied to the scratch resistant glass. This sheet is plastic and scratches so very easily. A lot of us have to put a screen protector on top of this sheet so as not to scratch it. Of course you can easily remove this sheet but doing so also removes the Sony logo on the front of the phone as well as voiding your warranty.
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That is good info. But Since the phone is designed to be used with a pen or pencil as a stylus I would imagine its still plenty hard enough?
And consumers would have that assumption given that Sony's ads show people using a metal tip pen and a pencil to write on the device. But as many users here can attest, that is all marketing bull****. I am even doubting their glass screen to be nothing special (not dragon trail or gorilla glass) - my guess it is just ordinary glass that breaks easily hence them placing an Anti Shatter Sheet.
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I guess I don't understand why people are using screen protectors? In the old days the screens could be scratch easily, but today's cellphone are using very durable hardened glass. Its pretty hard to scratch the glass...
Maybe i'm missing something?
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you are not missing anything, please sir, continue to use pencils and pens on your xperia z ultra naked. Use them hard and press them with your might, as it might make you realise some day that there is a factory anti-shatter screen protector on top of the hardened glass. But until then, please puncture the screen with all your might
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And consumers would have that assumption given that Sony's ads show people using a metal tip pen and a pencil to write on the device. But as many users here can attest, that is all marketing bull****. I am even doubting their glass screen to be nothing special (not dragon trail or gorilla glass) - my guess it is just ordinary glass that breaks easily hence them placing an Anti Shatter Sheet.
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dragon tail and gorilla glass will shatter upon impact, even diamond will shatter if you hit it with another rock
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The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
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Well put another one like that, its almost impossible, already its a thread in here for that, how to remove it and the options for a new one
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The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
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That's because you're supposed to cover the anti-shatter sheet (which is not a screen protector just anti-shatter) with a screen protector that you can easily replace.
I just posted a thread in this same forum section about official Sony ones I got from Japan. But remember they are not the same as your anti-shatter sheet, you're supposed to put them on top of the anti-shatter sheet.
In terms of what they cover, they are the closest to the anti-shatter sheet as they cover all the sensors, the Sony ones just don't cover the camera and the earpiece.
If you order the Sony potector, you have two choices. You can either put it on top of the anti-shatter sheetand hope you wont be able to see the scratch anymore through this one or you can remove the anti-shatter sheet and place this one down alone. Its up to you.
I've already removed the sheet. It's now completely free of protection as I screwed up putting on the screen protector.
It's more sensitive dust and fingermarks now, but overall I'm happy. Will be placing a screen protector on it soon again when I get around to it.
Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
Should i remove the screen protector
I have Scractched My Sony Xperia S , and it kinds of irritates when there is more White ,, I heard and read that the factory applied screen Protector can be removed, the Question is , is it a screen Protector or a shatter Protector..
In the case i do remove it how do i clean the glass if there is any residue gum and will it affect the screen in any way... Should i Put on a New screen Protector Once i Remove the original Factory fitted one.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
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does Xperia U have the same screen shatter protector? mine is scratched in the second day, now I applied a screen protector over it
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Yes it is a shatter protector thick layer, I damaged mine too (Xperia P), I removed it and then applied a good quality screen protector, no residue no marks are left when the shatter protection is removed, hope this helps.
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I had no idea the provided protectors had to go on top of the already applied one. Is it written in the manual/instructions?
Anyway, what is a good screen protector that can replace the shatter one to a good enough standard? I have scratches on mine, a rather large scuff over the front camera, making it unusable. So I suppose I could remove it and replace it with a protector?
Any recommendations?
It doesn't prevent shatter, i know that for a fact!
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Thats probably why it's not called a shatter preventor protector
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How easily can the screen without the preapplied protector be scratched? Just from carrying in a jeans pocket?
Should I apply a screenprotector if I remove the original one?
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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This.
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Yeah if I put my face up to the screen during direct sunlight I can just make out tiny scratches. Some of them are not permanent and some clearly are. The screen has been very good vs heavy scratches, but still gets light scratches like every other phone screen I have had. If you were to put a screen protector on you wouldnt even notice the scratches. Light scratches will always happen and it doesnt really bother me unless I can see them.
Edit: I did receive a free Spigen screen protector so I will try it out and see if I like it or not just for the hell of it. Generally though I prefer the naked screen and even my old hero with gorilla glass 1 came through just fine except for the minute almost imperceptible scraches.
Folks, Gorilla Glass is a marketing ploy. It doesn't offer any real scratch resistance over normal glass, but the compound it's made of makes it less likely to shatter (two different things). When it comes to scratch resistance, you're looking at the Mohs scale.
Mohs scale of mineral hardness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You may be more familiar with this than you think. Diamond is a 10, the hardest substance known to man. Diamond can only be scratched by another diamond or a laser.
Glass has a rating of 6-7, depending on the hardness of the glass. Plastic is a 3-4.
If you take your keys over a glass screen (or a glass window), touch it to the surface, and rub with a little pressure (just enough to gain a degree of resistance), you WILL NOT scratch the glass. I've even scared the crap out of someone by hacking at my Zune HD's screen with a carbon-steel steak knife, and not a scratch.
So what will cause you to scratch your glass screen? Two things;
-a softer material (like metal) and force, not resistance. Yes, if you slam something into the screen, it may very well get a small crack, small enough that we see it as a scratch. Because, while glass is very scratch resistant, it easily shatters. It's force that gives us those small "scratches."
-dirt/sand - Sand (quartz sand, specifically) is an active ingredient in glass. If you get small particles of sand or other types of dirt on the screen and then wipe it off with your shirt (or even a microfiber cloth), you can develop small scratches in your screen. The most annoying is those who wipe with a circular motion, as it leaves rings in the screen. Want to avoid this? Take a SMALL amount of Endust for Electronics and a paper towel and gently wipe off the screen. The liquid will act as a buffer between the screen and the dirt. Then, take a microfiber cloth (those little eyeglass cleaning cloths that come with screen protectors) and wipe off the residue left by the Endust and any pieces of the paper towel.
When you use a quality screen protector (SGP, Clarivu, Martin Fields), you're putting a plastic overlay over the phone. While this will scratch more easily than the glass screen, if applied correctly, it acts as a shock absorber, thus making it harder for the screen to shatter. It protects from scratches by taking the scratches itself, and it protects from shattering by absorbing the force of the blow.
The wet applications like the Invisible Shield are so thin that they don't noticeably increase shatter resistance. They'll just keep the screen together when shattered. The Invisible Shield is harder to scratch though, making it so that you don't have to replace it as often (it looks nicer longer than a normal plastic screen protector). Basically, it protects from scratches by deflecting them, but doesn't offer any real shock absorption.
Gorilla glass claims a hardness of 9 on Mohs scale which is utter bs. It realistically has a hardness of about 7-7.5 max. Normal glass can range from 6-7.2 depending on the type. Diamond is 10 and Sapphire is 9 which is what the make high end watch faces out of but is damn expensive. If Gorilla Glass was a 9 then they would use it for the watch faces since it is much much cheaper. I have a Citizen watch that has sapphire and the face is scratched as **** because I have had it for 12 years.
Remember as long as the scratches are the insanely small type caused by sand grains and such, you can easily get some special polish and buff those right out. The one nice thing about our screens not having oleophobic coating is you dont have to worry about damaging the coating when you polish it.
The best way for a manufacturer to reduce scratches is to put a chin on the phone like the Hero had. This way the phone screen never touches the ground.
When I got the phone I thought that the phone had one screen protector installed and that the other one in the packge was spare. How wrong I was. Now the shatter-resistant protector is full of small scrathes, even tough I haven't had keys or anything else on the same pocket. I've had the phone for about three months now.
I ordered Martin Shields few days ago, and I'm going to replave the shatter-resistant protector with that.
I had Wrapsol on my Galaxy Note and was pretty satisfied with it, but unfortunately they don't make one for P. My wife has Zagg on her Galaxy S, but it's bit too stick for my taste.
I put a screen protector on today to test it with one and it was on for all of 30 seconds before I tore it off. I just cant stand the things. Perfect thing for me would be a fold over case but as I use my left hand for the phone, they all fold the wrong way.
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
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The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
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It gets better after a while. Mine is nice and smooth. I got a free spigen clear with my case but it didn't feel as good as bare glass.
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I can't stand the edge it adds by the bar on the bottom.
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So I have read various threads, and none give a good indication.
So I guess Sony installs some anti shatter screen or something like that. Will this also indirectly protect from a possible scratch?
Or do we need a screen protector over it? If we do, do we need it and not the sony installed one? Or do we install our own over it?
just got mine scratched
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just got mine scratched
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But wouldnt the initial sony anti shatter screen protect the screen from scratches too?
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So I have read various threads, and none give a good indication.
So I guess Sony installs some anti shatter screen or something like that. Will this also indirectly protect from a possible scratch?
Or do we need a screen protector over it? If we do, do we need it and not the sony installed one? Or do we install our own over it?
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I've actually never used a screen protector even for phones that go in my pocket with my keys, saw-sharpening tungsten files and raw uncut diamonds. Ha ha. Anyway, I'd say it's overkill unless you're REALLY hard on your electronics. However, as the unfortunate person above me proves, scratching the screen is not impossible.
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I got rid of the Sony one! It was hard to get it off but in fact it's not a big deal.
After that I cleaned the display and put a new one on pure glass surface.
(Supremery antiglare...)
Its a difference like night and day!!!
Much less fingertips less reflective... colours look more clean now.
If I got rid now of a special screen protection that should come with the Sony one,
well I can live with that case. The usability is improved!!!
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I got rid of the Sony one! It was hard to get it off but in fact it's not a big deal.
After that I cleaned the display and put a new one on pure glass surface.
(Supremery antiglare...)
Its a difference like night and day!!!
Much less fingertips less reflective... colours look more clean now.
If I got rid now of a special screen protection that should come with the Sony one,
well I can live with that case. The usability is improved!!!
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So are you saying that you prefer the screen without the sony one?
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Are the colours less yellowish with the new Supremery Antiglare protector?
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So are you saying that you prefer the screen without the sony one?
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@c0llal0:
Are the colours less yellowish with the new Supremery Antiglare protector?
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The truth is that you never ever need a screen protector for anything. If you do want to protect your device from scratches, then yes. Sony's anti-shatter film is just that - an anti-shatter film, intended to prevent the screen from cracking in a hazardous fashion.
It is unfortunately not a scratch resistant film from the looks of things. Someone said a Sony representative claimed it was worth a lot of money though.
I myself use a half-matte film atop the anti-shatter film, but you can remove it and use the screen without it if you prefer.
I have put a screen protector over the device without removing the Sony one. I don't perceive any difference and always have the chance to replace it cheaply in case anything happens. I've done the same with my latest phones (S and Z). That way the screen remains in perfect condition for my own use and also when the time comes to sell the device.
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But wouldnt the initial sony anti shatter screen protect the screen from scratches too?
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Technically it (and screen protectors in general) do this.
However...
They do not do this by being harder to scratch than the screen. I mean.. on one side you have a flexible plastic sheet. On the other a solid piece of glass. Which do you think is harder to damage?
Essentially, all screen protectors do is to be a layer between the screen and anything which could damage it. The protector is easier to damage than the screen it protects, but i.e. a sand grain would still have to grind through it before it has a chance to damage the screen below. And if the screen protector gets (too) scratched it is easy to replace.
(This also means if it *never* gets scratched you wouldn't have needed it in the first place. Anything which couldn't damage the protector wouldn't have been able to damage the screen.)
In the case of the anti shatter film we have practically the worst of both worlds. We have a layer on the screen which is easier to damage than it, but it isn't easy to remove. It is likely that in technolust109's case only the anti-shatter layer is scratched, not the actual screen. But that will be only visible if the anti-shatter layer is removed, which as said isn't easy and I am not sure if the Warranty is still valid if you do this.
My Tablet Z "screen" (meaning actual screen + anti-shatter layer, so likely only the anti shatter layer) has a scratch too. Only a vary fine one, though. You only see it under the right light conditions and the right viewing angle and it is only feel-able if you using a fingernail instead fingertip and know where it is.
My Nexus S, which is now over 2 years old and which has never seen a case or screen protector still has not a single scratch on its screen, btw.
The Sony anti shatter protector scratches really easily!
Half the items I read about the Xp Z tab say that the front is Gorilla Glass, the other half say it's not! I am paranoid about not scratching the screen but I have just installed a protector and am disappointed about the adverse effect the protector has on the screen quality - it has a definite opacity. My dilemma is that I am a heavy note taker and have been waiting to trying the Jot Pro - but only with a protector. Can any one categorically advise what the screen is made of and whether or not it is totally scratch resistant? If so, I may do away with the protector
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Whether the glass is Gorilla glass or not, I don't know. Since I don't like the opacity of plastic screen protectors, I'm using a Spigen GlassT protector. Quite expensive but looks and feels great.
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arnedielis said:
Whether the glass is Gorilla glass or not, I don't know. Since I don't like the opacity of plastic screen protectors, I'm using a Spigen GlassT protector. Quite expensive but looks and feels great.
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Interesting - where did you get it? I can't find it through googling.
A quick Google search reveals several reviews which state it's Gorilla glass.
Didn't think it was personally.
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A quick Google search reveals several reviews which state it's Gorilla glass.
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............And some that don't! That was my point. It would be good to know definitively - but I guess realistically, no-one would market a top-range device without something equivalent.
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............And some that don't! That was my point. It would be good to know definitively - but I guess realistically, no-one would market a top-range device without something equivalent.
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Did you take off the factory fitted anti-shatter sheet before applying your screen protector ?
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Did you take off the factory fitted anti-shatter sheet before applying your screen protector ?
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There was a very obvious sheet of cellophane that I removed. Was there another? Nothing else came off when pulled off the new screen protector. (I tried a protector but couldn't stand the reduced definition).
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There was a very obvious sheet of cellophane that I removed. Was there another? Nothing else came off when pulled off the new screen protector. (I tried a protector but couldn't stand the reduced definition).
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Oh....I think you may want to read this for a start : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375843
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Interesting - where did you get it? I can't find it through googling.
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Bought it on Ebay, or you can check Spigen's webshop. I didn't remove the anti-shatter sheet before applying the glass protector. Its presence is hardly noticable.
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Bought it on Ebay, or you can check Spigen's webshop. I didn't remove the anti-shatter sheet before applying the glass protector. Its presence is hardly noticable.
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Whoops, my comments are about the Xperia Z, not the tab... Sorry...
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Oh....I think you may want to read this for a start : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375843
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Ah!! Thanks for this - I hadn't twigged that there was another layer! more food for thought!
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Ah!! Thanks for this - I hadn't twigged that there was another layer! more food for thought!
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I'm having some serious thoughts about removing the anti-shatter film. When I use the screen on my Nexus 4 (which doesn't have a protective film) it just feels that little bit smoother and nicer than using the Tablet Z....you know, I can't quite put my finger on it ...:laugh:
I heard that Sony uses Dragontrail glass panel instead of Corning Gorilla glass.
The glass itself is under anti-shatter film.
The screen scratches easely. I can't believe it has corning gorilla glass or something similar.
A protective sheet is recomended!
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The screen scratches easely. I can't believe it has corning gorilla glass or something similar.
A protective sheet is recomended!
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It's covered by a protective sheet already, that is what scratches easily to keep the scratch proof glass below from shattering, supposedly... kind of ironic if you ask me.
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The screen scratches easely. I can't believe it has corning gorilla glass or something similar.
A protective sheet is recomended!
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Have you not seen this : www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuwHzRYnzQY ?
Interesting
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Half the items I read about the Xp Z tab say that the front is Gorilla Glass, the other half say it's not! I am paranoid about not scratching the screen but I have just installed a protector and am disappointed about the adverse effect the protector has on the screen quality - it has a definite opacity. My dilemma is that I am a heavy note taker and have been waiting to trying the Jot Pro - but only with a protector. Can any one categorically advise what the screen is made of and whether or not it is totally scratch resistant? If so, I may do away with the protector
Thanks
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This, though a genuine question, is a moot one. The only man made glass that will not scratch (except by a diamond) is sapphire glass and its next in hardness to diamond. As no phone or tablet to date has sapphire glass all other glass will and does scratch.
There are some truly awful screen protectors but also some very very good ones. To ensure you don't scratch your screen I would respectfully and strongly suggest you fit a screen protector.
I am unsure anyone outside the Sony factory knows what glass they use. Its immaterial in any case but I do agree I have zero idea why Sony is the only high end mobile brand that does not give their customers this information. I find it rather annoying, I think we are entitled to such information.
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It's covered by a protective sheet already, that is what scratches easily to keep the scratch proof glass below from shattering, supposedly... kind of ironic if you ask me.
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If you think about this.....the latest Sony products are all water resistant. Think on, this means that people will use them either sitting by water or even while sitting IN water. If you broke that glass while in your bath how would you feel about maneuvering your naked butt out of the tube with a splintered sheet of glass shards sitting on your lap and under your fishing tackle.
As bad would be the cost of emptying a swimming pool?!
A company like Sony would not fit an anti shatter proof membrane if it was not required and well thought out, why would they?
prevention is better than cure or education from with hindsight.
Ryland Johnson said:
This, though a genuine question, is a moot one. The only man made glass that will not scratch (except by a diamond) is sapphire glass and its next in hardness to diamond. As no phone or tablet to date has sapphire glass all other glass will and does scratch.
There are some truly awful screen protectors but also some very very good ones. To ensure you don't scratch your screen I would respectfully and strongly suggest you fit a screen protector.
I am unsure anyone outside the Sony factory knows what glass they use. Its immaterial in any case but I do agree I have zero idea why Sony is the only high end mobile brand that does not give their customers this information. I find it rather annoying, I think we are entitled to such information.
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If you think about this.....the latest Sony products are all water resistant. Think on, this means that people will use them either sitting by water or even while sitting IN water. If you broke that glass while in your bath how would you feel about maneuvering your naked butt out of the tube with a splintered sheet of glass shards sitting on your lap and under your fishing tackle.
As bad would be the cost of emptying a swimming pool?!
A company like Sony would not fit an anti shatter proof membrane if it was not required and well thought out, why would they?
prevention is better than cure or education from with hindsight.
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Good thing I didn't say it was useless, only ironic. I agree with your points, but still feel the right to share my opinion on it, and I think it is ironic that they used such a scratch-prone covering... especially since most screens will get scratched, while shattering is rare (they may crack, but rarely do shards of glass come out, the adhesive holds the broken pieces pretty well). I, for one, abhor plastic screens/protectors, when glass provides a much better touch based experience.
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Good thing I didn't say it was useless, only ironic. I agree with your points, but still feel the right to share my opinion on it, and I think it is ironic that they used such a scratch-prone covering... especially since most screens will get scratched, while shattering is rare (they may crack, but rarely do shards of glass come out, the adhesive holds the broken pieces pretty well). I, for one, abhor plastic screens/protectors, when glass provides a much better touch based experience.
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I also found the shatter proof membrane soft. It is litigation in todays society that leads brands to cover their backs. It is the "Rare" occasion you mention that could cost Sony millions.
I have read several posts where members remove the shatter proof coating. I suggest this unwise but once you buy the product it belongs to its owner and the owner must then take responsibility for the device and its behaviour IF the glass breaks.
To me its the screen material and battery life that hold the real advances in this area back. The sooner we have some real decent 'glass' at a cost effective price and a battery that can cope with the devastating rate of technological progress I will be a happier chappie.
The most odd thing to me is owning all this wonderful technology yet it working only for a few hours per day without a charge?
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Has anyone else found that when using pencils and pens on the screen that they scratch the hell out of their screens. And it is now pssing me off knowing i have really scratched it beauces of doing something they said you can do. Especially since the screen is meant to be scratch resistant.
Yea it's actually an anti shatter film. not so much a scratch resistant layer. I just put a screen protector on top of mine before I started testing out the handwriting thing. once it scratches I just replace it. gotta do some research before doing some of the sketchy stuff. for example, I have yet to try out the phones water proofing. I know it can be done but should I do it as a test? ehh ill probably just take their word for it. lol
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SAMVREMIX said:
Has anyone else found that when using pencils and pens on the screen that they scratch the hell out of their screens. And it is now pssing me off knowing i have really scratched it beauces of doing something they said you can do. Especially since the screen is meant to be scratch resistant.
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Well yeah this is Sony main weaknesses.. but one of their main strength too.. Saw that Xperia Z1 drop test? not a crack on the screen (compared to the S4 for example). Why? well the shatter proof does its job.. but unfortunately, the scratch resistant nature is only embedded on the screen below it.. so like any other phone, please buy yourself a new screen protector. even my previous Gorilla Glass RAZR MAXX is scratched after 8 months of use.. Better protected than never..
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Well yeah this is Sony main weaknesses.. but one of their main strength too.. Saw that Xperia Z1 drop test? not a crack on the screen (compared to the S4 for example). Why? well the shatter proof does its job.. but unfortunately, the scratch resistant nature is only embedded on the screen below it.. so like any other phone, please buy yourself a new screen protector. even my previous Gorilla Glass RAZR MAXX is scratched after 8 months of use.. Better protected than never..
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I put a gearmaxxx ultra clear screen protector on D1, scratched on day 3 I think, trying to write on the device with a pencil.
Then I got an anti glare no brand screen protector, really good, scratched 5 days ago trying if pencils or metal objects could write under water, as several sites report that as working. Of course it didn't work, but then I obviously scratched the screen protector again.
By then the Chinese glas.t knock off had arrived, so I put that on. Some days later I impressed my dad and my daughter with a pen on it, and she began drawing with the Sketch app.
Wanna know how it ended?
Even the tempered glass got scratched.
Bottom line is, everything get scratched sooner or later.
If you can live with few scratches on your screen and change screen protector every now and then, do as you please, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not writing on the screen with anything besides my fingers anymore, I'm sick of changing screen protectors, and the original anti shatter film on the device is a pain in the arse to remove if you scratch that.
And if you manage to remove that too, you'll most definitely lose your warranty (other than the Sony logo).
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fastest83 said:
I put a gearmaxxx ultra clear screen protector on D1, scratched on day 3 I think, trying to write on the device with a pencil.
Then I got an anti glare no brand screen protector, really good, scratched 5 days ago trying if pencils or metal objects could write under water, as several sites report that as working. Of course it didn't work, but then I obviously scratched the screen protector again.
By then the Chinese glas.t knock off had arrived, so I put that on. Some days later I impressed my dad and my daughter with a pen on it, and she began drawing with the Sketch app.
Wanna know how it ended?
Even the tempered glass got scratched.
Bottom line is, everything get scratched sooner or later.
If you can live with few scratches on your screen and change screen protector every now and then, do as you please, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not writing on the screen with anything besides my fingers anymore, I'm sick of changing screen protectors, and the original anti shatter film on the device is a pain in the arse to remove if you scratch that.
And if you manage to remove that too, you'll most definitely lose your warranty (other than the Sony logo).
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Well you could try to find a softer stylus like one on the note 3 though.. or maybe that cp12 embedded stylus could be the perfect solution.. Or like how the zu was advertised, write on the paper on top of the z ultra.. It is meant for carbon copy device..
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I have been using a pencil every so often and not had any issues with the cheep screen protector i have on mine. How hard are you pressing?
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Well yeah this is Sony main weaknesses.. but one of their main strength too.. Saw that Xperia Z1 drop test? not a crack on the screen (compared to the S4 for example). Why? well the shatter proof does its job.. but unfortunately, the scratch resistant nature is only embedded on the screen below it.. so like any other phone, please buy yourself a new screen protector. even my previous Gorilla Glass RAZR MAXX is scratched after 8 months of use.. Better protected than never..
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I am almost certain that the shatterproof protector they put on their phones only keeps the shards of the broken glass in, so you don't cut yourself or anything. Shatterproof protectors don't actually stop the phone from breaking, whatever glass Sony is using just must be really tough.
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I am almost certain that the shatterproof protector they put on their phones only keeps the shards of the broken glass in, so you don't cut yourself or anything. Shatterproof protectors don't actually stop the phone from breaking, whatever glass Sony is using just must be really tough.
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With some plastic on top I'm sure there is some resistance to shatter because it absorbs some of the shock rather than directly to the glass itself..
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With some plastic on top I'm sure there is some resistance to shatter because it absorbs some of the shock rather than directly to the glass itself..
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Possibly yes but a shatterproof sheet itself does not stop the glass to break, despite the misleading name. It merely keeps the shards in when it does break. I'm sure the Z1's sturdiness is more from Sony's strong glass and frame of the phone than the sheet on they put on the screen
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Hi guys,
I think rain x is for glass, but will it be okay to apply it on xperia z ultra anti shatter film?
I don't want to remove the film as i like the sony logo and added protection.
I just want to apply on the front.
Thanks a lot!
if u decide to go with "rain x" or whatever that is...sound like a stereotype american brand...anyway u might want to get a bottle of rain x for plastic instead if you wont remove the asf
https://rainx.com/product/plastic-water-repellent/rain-x-plastic-water-repellent/
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if u decide to go with "rain x" or whatever that is...sound like a stereotype american brand...anyway u might want to get a bottle of rain x for plastic instead if you wont remove the asf
https://rainx.com/product/plastic-water-repellent/rain-x-plastic-water-repellent/
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Aww that sucks. I don't want to buy another product just for plastic LOL. i don't want to remove the film either.
How do you find the front ASF on z Ultra? How does it handle fingerprints? In summer my hands are really sweaty.
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sw6lee said:
Aww that sucks. I don't want to buy another product just for plastic LOL. i don't want to remove the film either.
How do you find the front ASF on z Ultra? How does it handle fingerprints? In summer my hands are really sweaty.
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The asf scratch easily, the oliofobic wore off in like three months and at about 2/3 down the screen there was a horizontal dull and almost har d to see through line where my fingers had been swiping in many apps. So I took it off about a year ago.
Without its a nightmare. Its completely dull. There is no finish to the glass due to that the asf needed the rough surface to bond to. I have been using Gtechnic kit and it does very well. Its a product most used in sports cars and airplanes but it can be used to anything you like as long as it sticks to the surface.
..But not enough. Probably the best solution would be to have proper buffing equipment and buff the surface until its smooth as crystal glass.
Anyhow I tried a set off those hardened glass protector and thats what im using at the moment. The phone is now two years old so I dont really care much about it. If it dents it dents, if the glass cracks it cracks. Im not spending money on it any longer.
Gtechnic http://gtechniq.com/products/auto/perfect/exterior/paint/g1-and-g4-clearvision-screen-kit
Mocolo http://glass4m.com/product/mocolo-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot to mention the mocolo glass panels also add a bit of ...or very much to make the phone much more rigid! The z ultra is very easy to bend in half but with them mounted its much much more rigid and harder to bend. It feels more like a premium device.
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The asf scratch easily, the oliofobic wore off in like three months and at about 2/3 down the screen there was a horizontal dull and almost har d to see through line where my fingers had been swiping in many apps. So I took it off about a year ago.
Without its a nightmare. Its completely dull. There is no finish to the glass due to that the asf needed the rough surface to bond to. I have been using Gtechnic kit and it does very well. Its a product most used in sports cars and airplanes but it can be used to anything you like as long as it sticks to the surface.
..But not enough. Probably the best solution would be to have proper buffing equipment and buff the surface until its smooth as crystal glass.
Anyhow I tried a set off those hardened glass protector and thats what im using at the moment. The phone is now two years old so I dont really care much about it. If it dents it dents, if the glass cracks it cracks. Im not spending money on it any longer.
Gtechnic http://gtechniq.com/products/auto/perfect/exterior/paint/g1-and-g4-clearvision-screen-kit
Mocolo http://glass4m.com/product/mocolo-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot to mention the mocolo glass panels also add a bit of ...or very much to make the phone much more rigid! The z ultra is very easy to bend in half but with them mounted its much much more rigid and harder to bend. It feels more like a premium device.
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Can i apply the glass screen protector on top of asf? And if the oleophobic coating of the screen protector fades in a few months apply rainx?
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sw6lee said:
Can i apply the glass screen protector on top of asf? And if the oleophobic coating of the screen protector fades in a few months apply rainx?
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its a common question. As I understand the touch sensitivity is not an issue when applying screen protector onto the asf. So you should be fine.
And Yes typicly rainx should work. But the oleophobic wont wear of the glass screen protector.. not what I have noticed at least.
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its a common question. As I understand the touch sensitivity is not an issue when applying screen protector onto the asf. So you should be fine.
And Yes typicly rainx should work. But the oleophobic wont wear of the glass screen protector.. not what I have noticed at least.
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Aha thanks!!
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