Half the items I read about the Xp Z tab say that the front is Gorilla Glass, the other half say it's not! I am paranoid about not scratching the screen but I have just installed a protector and am disappointed about the adverse effect the protector has on the screen quality - it has a definite opacity. My dilemma is that I am a heavy note taker and have been waiting to trying the Jot Pro - but only with a protector. Can any one categorically advise what the screen is made of and whether or not it is totally scratch resistant? If so, I may do away with the protector
Thanks
Whether the glass is Gorilla glass or not, I don't know. Since I don't like the opacity of plastic screen protectors, I'm using a Spigen GlassT protector. Quite expensive but looks and feels great.
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Whether the glass is Gorilla glass or not, I don't know. Since I don't like the opacity of plastic screen protectors, I'm using a Spigen GlassT protector. Quite expensive but looks and feels great.
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Interesting - where did you get it? I can't find it through googling.
A quick Google search reveals several reviews which state it's Gorilla glass.
Didn't think it was personally.
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A quick Google search reveals several reviews which state it's Gorilla glass.
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............And some that don't! That was my point. It would be good to know definitively - but I guess realistically, no-one would market a top-range device without something equivalent.
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............And some that don't! That was my point. It would be good to know definitively - but I guess realistically, no-one would market a top-range device without something equivalent.
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Did you take off the factory fitted anti-shatter sheet before applying your screen protector ?
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Did you take off the factory fitted anti-shatter sheet before applying your screen protector ?
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There was a very obvious sheet of cellophane that I removed. Was there another? Nothing else came off when pulled off the new screen protector. (I tried a protector but couldn't stand the reduced definition).
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There was a very obvious sheet of cellophane that I removed. Was there another? Nothing else came off when pulled off the new screen protector. (I tried a protector but couldn't stand the reduced definition).
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Oh....I think you may want to read this for a start : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375843
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Interesting - where did you get it? I can't find it through googling.
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Bought it on Ebay, or you can check Spigen's webshop. I didn't remove the anti-shatter sheet before applying the glass protector. Its presence is hardly noticable.
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Bought it on Ebay, or you can check Spigen's webshop. I didn't remove the anti-shatter sheet before applying the glass protector. Its presence is hardly noticable.
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Whoops, my comments are about the Xperia Z, not the tab... Sorry...
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Oh....I think you may want to read this for a start : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375843
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Ah!! Thanks for this - I hadn't twigged that there was another layer! more food for thought!
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Ah!! Thanks for this - I hadn't twigged that there was another layer! more food for thought!
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I'm having some serious thoughts about removing the anti-shatter film. When I use the screen on my Nexus 4 (which doesn't have a protective film) it just feels that little bit smoother and nicer than using the Tablet Z....you know, I can't quite put my finger on it ...:laugh:
I heard that Sony uses Dragontrail glass panel instead of Corning Gorilla glass.
The glass itself is under anti-shatter film.
The screen scratches easely. I can't believe it has corning gorilla glass or something similar.
A protective sheet is recomended!
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The screen scratches easely. I can't believe it has corning gorilla glass or something similar.
A protective sheet is recomended!
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It's covered by a protective sheet already, that is what scratches easily to keep the scratch proof glass below from shattering, supposedly... kind of ironic if you ask me.
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The screen scratches easely. I can't believe it has corning gorilla glass or something similar.
A protective sheet is recomended!
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Have you not seen this : www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuwHzRYnzQY ?
Interesting
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pdes said:
Half the items I read about the Xp Z tab say that the front is Gorilla Glass, the other half say it's not! I am paranoid about not scratching the screen but I have just installed a protector and am disappointed about the adverse effect the protector has on the screen quality - it has a definite opacity. My dilemma is that I am a heavy note taker and have been waiting to trying the Jot Pro - but only with a protector. Can any one categorically advise what the screen is made of and whether or not it is totally scratch resistant? If so, I may do away with the protector
Thanks
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This, though a genuine question, is a moot one. The only man made glass that will not scratch (except by a diamond) is sapphire glass and its next in hardness to diamond. As no phone or tablet to date has sapphire glass all other glass will and does scratch.
There are some truly awful screen protectors but also some very very good ones. To ensure you don't scratch your screen I would respectfully and strongly suggest you fit a screen protector.
I am unsure anyone outside the Sony factory knows what glass they use. Its immaterial in any case but I do agree I have zero idea why Sony is the only high end mobile brand that does not give their customers this information. I find it rather annoying, I think we are entitled to such information.
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It's covered by a protective sheet already, that is what scratches easily to keep the scratch proof glass below from shattering, supposedly... kind of ironic if you ask me.
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If you think about this.....the latest Sony products are all water resistant. Think on, this means that people will use them either sitting by water or even while sitting IN water. If you broke that glass while in your bath how would you feel about maneuvering your naked butt out of the tube with a splintered sheet of glass shards sitting on your lap and under your fishing tackle.
As bad would be the cost of emptying a swimming pool?!
A company like Sony would not fit an anti shatter proof membrane if it was not required and well thought out, why would they?
prevention is better than cure or education from with hindsight.
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This, though a genuine question, is a moot one. The only man made glass that will not scratch (except by a diamond) is sapphire glass and its next in hardness to diamond. As no phone or tablet to date has sapphire glass all other glass will and does scratch.
There are some truly awful screen protectors but also some very very good ones. To ensure you don't scratch your screen I would respectfully and strongly suggest you fit a screen protector.
I am unsure anyone outside the Sony factory knows what glass they use. Its immaterial in any case but I do agree I have zero idea why Sony is the only high end mobile brand that does not give their customers this information. I find it rather annoying, I think we are entitled to such information.
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If you think about this.....the latest Sony products are all water resistant. Think on, this means that people will use them either sitting by water or even while sitting IN water. If you broke that glass while in your bath how would you feel about maneuvering your naked butt out of the tube with a splintered sheet of glass shards sitting on your lap and under your fishing tackle.
As bad would be the cost of emptying a swimming pool?!
A company like Sony would not fit an anti shatter proof membrane if it was not required and well thought out, why would they?
prevention is better than cure or education from with hindsight.
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Good thing I didn't say it was useless, only ironic. I agree with your points, but still feel the right to share my opinion on it, and I think it is ironic that they used such a scratch-prone covering... especially since most screens will get scratched, while shattering is rare (they may crack, but rarely do shards of glass come out, the adhesive holds the broken pieces pretty well). I, for one, abhor plastic screens/protectors, when glass provides a much better touch based experience.
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Good thing I didn't say it was useless, only ironic. I agree with your points, but still feel the right to share my opinion on it, and I think it is ironic that they used such a scratch-prone covering... especially since most screens will get scratched, while shattering is rare (they may crack, but rarely do shards of glass come out, the adhesive holds the broken pieces pretty well). I, for one, abhor plastic screens/protectors, when glass provides a much better touch based experience.
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I also found the shatter proof membrane soft. It is litigation in todays society that leads brands to cover their backs. It is the "Rare" occasion you mention that could cost Sony millions.
I have read several posts where members remove the shatter proof coating. I suggest this unwise but once you buy the product it belongs to its owner and the owner must then take responsibility for the device and its behaviour IF the glass breaks.
To me its the screen material and battery life that hold the real advances in this area back. The sooner we have some real decent 'glass' at a cost effective price and a battery that can cope with the devastating rate of technological progress I will be a happier chappie.
The most odd thing to me is owning all this wonderful technology yet it working only for a few hours per day without a charge?
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Hey Guys,
New ATT LTE Note owner here coming from an iPhone that i've used for 4+ years. Anyhow, does anyone have any good recommendations on screen protectors? I've been reading the other threads, but they just dont give me enough info. I ordered the SGP Ultra Oleophobic screen protector, wondering what it looks like and if anyone can post pics of theirs? That would be awesome. Also does anyone know where I can get a replacement back housing that is leathery like the Blackberry Bold 9000?
A screen protector is a screen protector. Doesn't matter about what device you put it on. So, just search for screen protector and you will get your answer. Another thread is not necessary. Also, the Note has Gorilla Glass and you really don't need a screen protector. I understand this is personal preference, though.
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A screen protector is a screen protector. Doesn't matter about what device you put it on. So, just search for screen protector and you will get your answer. Another thread is not necessary. Also, the Note has Gorilla Glass and you really don't need a screen protector. I understand this is personal preference, though.
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You do need it if you are going to be around sand which will easily scratch the screen if you get one speck on your finger.
It has happened before and will happen again.
To protect investment I highly advice to get a screen protector put on the screen. There's been few threads talking about their Note has been scratched. SGP is a good brand, one of the members here suggested it and I replaced my Zagg screen with it, it feels more natural than Zagg, although I still think Zagg is more durable.
As for leathery back cover, no idea. Seidio is coming out w/ their own set of protective case. Their product has never failed me. Great protection.
OK, I'm not one to often recommended $35 screen protectors, but this is the first time I've been able to bear any sp for more than a day. I did get 2 tiny specs under it that are noticeable with the screen off in bright light, but I can't even tell an sp is on when I'm using it.
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I like these screen protectors,comparable to zagg but lays down smoother
http://www.gadgetguard.com/samsung-galaxy-note-us-screen-protectors.html
Are the Seidio ones any good.
http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-note-ultimate-screen-guard-p/spm1ssgnt.htm
I recommend sgp ultra clear screen protectors. You wont even notice its on there. www.spigen.com ......If you order from amazon you can get free 2 day shipping. You get 2 for 15.99
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kimtyson said:
A screen protector is a screen protector. Doesn't matter about what device you put it on. So, just search for screen protector and you will get your answer. Another thread is not necessary. Also, the Note has Gorilla Glass and you really don't need a screen protector. I understand this is personal preference, though.
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Why this? Jeez
i got the zagg screen protector from best buy with my reward card for 6 bucks. It is the one with the wet install. Surprisingly the install was quite easy and painless. I was thoroughly impressed. It is not like a one shot deal when you install it. You can move the screen protector around until it is right. Just spray more water whenever it is needed. ( and no I dont work for Zagg..lol)
Zagg is the worst screen protector, ever, period.
It sucks even more with our S-Pen since Zagg has a "rubbery" feeling or texture on it. Since the whole point of the screen protector is to protect the screen from being scratched and mimic the feeling of the bare glass, your best bet is the regular thin plastic screen protectors. That is, unless, you are willing to get the glass screen protectors.
But then if you like it then that's all that matters.
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I recommend sgp ultra clear screen protectors. \
Why this? Jeez
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ultra crystal? hate to pay $15 for a sp, but gotta have one
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Because here we go with yet another thread so everyone can chime in with their opinion about which is the best screen protector. And my opinion is that you don't need one with GG.
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Because here we go with yet another thread so everyone can chime in with their opinion about which is the best screen protector. And my opinion is that you don't need one with GG.
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Gorilla Glass is Scratch Resistant, NOT Scratch Proof, Scratch Proof glass does NOT exist. Even if it GG was as tough as diamonds, the protectors provide some extra protection for your screen in the case of drops, bumps, etc. Me, I don't want to take any chances.
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Because here we go with yet another thread so everyone can chime in with their opinion about which is the best screen protector. And my opinion is that you don't need one with GG.
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Gorilla Glass is Scratch Resistant, NOT Scratch Proof, Scratch Proof glass does NOT exist. Even if it GG was as tough as diamonds, the protectors provide some extra protection for your screen in the case of drops, bumps, etc. Me, I don't want to take any chances.
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+1, but he is technically right that you don't NEED one. It seems like the odds are in favor of no scratches or minimal scratches. I live in Florida and there's a lot of sand. I'd rather take a knife to my GG than sand... I always use a screen protector.
SGP all the way get the ultra crystal.
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i ordered a screen protector x 5 for just under 5 bucks from eBay. I replace every 6 months.
Sadly there is no sand where I live. (I am jealous of you who have sand!) And, I can understand that a sandy environment is a good reason to protect the device more.
The reason I chimed in was to protest yet another thread about "what screen protector is the best". Then I added my opinion.
I agree that SGP are very good.
SGP Glass
The SGP glass screen protector is the best I used two others and the s-pen left marks all over them the SGP Glass was a bit pricey but well worth it looks perfect clear as glass and hard so s-pen will not mark it up I will never go back to a film form now on i'll use an SGP glass protector on all my phones
So I have read various threads, and none give a good indication.
So I guess Sony installs some anti shatter screen or something like that. Will this also indirectly protect from a possible scratch?
Or do we need a screen protector over it? If we do, do we need it and not the sony installed one? Or do we install our own over it?
just got mine scratched
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just got mine scratched
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But wouldnt the initial sony anti shatter screen protect the screen from scratches too?
acdcking12345 said:
So I have read various threads, and none give a good indication.
So I guess Sony installs some anti shatter screen or something like that. Will this also indirectly protect from a possible scratch?
Or do we need a screen protector over it? If we do, do we need it and not the sony installed one? Or do we install our own over it?
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I've actually never used a screen protector even for phones that go in my pocket with my keys, saw-sharpening tungsten files and raw uncut diamonds. Ha ha. Anyway, I'd say it's overkill unless you're REALLY hard on your electronics. However, as the unfortunate person above me proves, scratching the screen is not impossible.
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I got rid of the Sony one! It was hard to get it off but in fact it's not a big deal.
After that I cleaned the display and put a new one on pure glass surface.
(Supremery antiglare...)
Its a difference like night and day!!!
Much less fingertips less reflective... colours look more clean now.
If I got rid now of a special screen protection that should come with the Sony one,
well I can live with that case. The usability is improved!!!
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I got rid of the Sony one! It was hard to get it off but in fact it's not a big deal.
After that I cleaned the display and put a new one on pure glass surface.
(Supremery antiglare...)
Its a difference like night and day!!!
Much less fingertips less reflective... colours look more clean now.
If I got rid now of a special screen protection that should come with the Sony one,
well I can live with that case. The usability is improved!!!
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So are you saying that you prefer the screen without the sony one?
@c0llal0:
Are the colours less yellowish with the new Supremery Antiglare protector?
acdcking12345 said:
So are you saying that you prefer the screen without the sony one?
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@c0llal0:
Are the colours less yellowish with the new Supremery Antiglare protector?
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The truth is that you never ever need a screen protector for anything. If you do want to protect your device from scratches, then yes. Sony's anti-shatter film is just that - an anti-shatter film, intended to prevent the screen from cracking in a hazardous fashion.
It is unfortunately not a scratch resistant film from the looks of things. Someone said a Sony representative claimed it was worth a lot of money though.
I myself use a half-matte film atop the anti-shatter film, but you can remove it and use the screen without it if you prefer.
I have put a screen protector over the device without removing the Sony one. I don't perceive any difference and always have the chance to replace it cheaply in case anything happens. I've done the same with my latest phones (S and Z). That way the screen remains in perfect condition for my own use and also when the time comes to sell the device.
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But wouldnt the initial sony anti shatter screen protect the screen from scratches too?
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Technically it (and screen protectors in general) do this.
However...
They do not do this by being harder to scratch than the screen. I mean.. on one side you have a flexible plastic sheet. On the other a solid piece of glass. Which do you think is harder to damage?
Essentially, all screen protectors do is to be a layer between the screen and anything which could damage it. The protector is easier to damage than the screen it protects, but i.e. a sand grain would still have to grind through it before it has a chance to damage the screen below. And if the screen protector gets (too) scratched it is easy to replace.
(This also means if it *never* gets scratched you wouldn't have needed it in the first place. Anything which couldn't damage the protector wouldn't have been able to damage the screen.)
In the case of the anti shatter film we have practically the worst of both worlds. We have a layer on the screen which is easier to damage than it, but it isn't easy to remove. It is likely that in technolust109's case only the anti-shatter layer is scratched, not the actual screen. But that will be only visible if the anti-shatter layer is removed, which as said isn't easy and I am not sure if the Warranty is still valid if you do this.
My Tablet Z "screen" (meaning actual screen + anti-shatter layer, so likely only the anti shatter layer) has a scratch too. Only a vary fine one, though. You only see it under the right light conditions and the right viewing angle and it is only feel-able if you using a fingernail instead fingertip and know where it is.
My Nexus S, which is now over 2 years old and which has never seen a case or screen protector still has not a single scratch on its screen, btw.
The Sony anti shatter protector scratches really easily!
I've got a screen protector on my ZU but I'm scared of using a pencil as a stylus regularly for fear of damaging the stock screen protector and the screen itself. Do you recommend using a pencil regularly (write, browse, etc.) or advice against it? Thanks a lot!
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I've got a screen protector on my ZU but I'm scared of using a pencil as a stylus regularly for fear of damaging the stock screen protector and the screen itself. Do you recommend using a pencil regularly (write, browse, etc.) or advice against it? Thanks a lot!
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NO. DONT. I ****ING RUINED my screen protector.
Agreed - do not use a pencil or stylus on the screen. Put another screen protector on the device before using any type of styli
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Thank you both!
I was pretty sure I saw some Sony video where they specifically mention the screen is hardened glass just for that reason, so you could use a regular pen or pencil if you wanted too. It was designed for such writing...
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I was pretty sure I saw some Sony video where they specifically mention the screen is hardened glass just for that reason, so you could use a regular pen or pencil if you wanted too. It was designed for such writing...
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Sure, glass is glass, but plastic (which the protector is made of) is platic, and it will scratch.
I second what everybody else said, as I scratched the protector I put on and I had to change it.
A pen is actually less likely to scratch the plastic as the pencil can be roughly sharpened, while a pen or something in aluminium with a rounded tip is perfect.
Anyway, I have a matte screen protector on and it definitely seems less likely to get scratched...
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I guess I don't understand why people are using screen protectors? In the old days the screens could be scratch easily, but today's cellphone are using very durable hardened glass. Its pretty hard to scratch the glass...
Maybe i'm missing something?
Remember that most of Sony's smartphones now have an Anti Shatter Sheet applied to the scratch resistant glass. This sheet is plastic and scratches so very easily. A lot of us have to put a screen protector on top of this sheet so as not to scratch it. Of course you can easily remove this sheet but doing so also removes the Sony logo on the front of the phone as well as voiding your warranty.
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Remember that most of Sony's smartphones now have an Anti Shatter Sheet applied to the scratch resistant glass. This sheet is plastic and scratches so very easily. A lot of us have to put a screen protector on top of this sheet so as not to scratch it. Of course you can easily remove this sheet but doing so also removes the Sony logo on the front of the phone as well as voiding your warranty.
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That is good info. But Since the phone is designed to be used with a pen or pencil as a stylus I would imagine its still plenty hard enough?
And consumers would have that assumption given that Sony's ads show people using a metal tip pen and a pencil to write on the device. But as many users here can attest, that is all marketing bull****. I am even doubting their glass screen to be nothing special (not dragon trail or gorilla glass) - my guess it is just ordinary glass that breaks easily hence them placing an Anti Shatter Sheet.
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I guess I don't understand why people are using screen protectors? In the old days the screens could be scratch easily, but today's cellphone are using very durable hardened glass. Its pretty hard to scratch the glass...
Maybe i'm missing something?
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you are not missing anything, please sir, continue to use pencils and pens on your xperia z ultra naked. Use them hard and press them with your might, as it might make you realise some day that there is a factory anti-shatter screen protector on top of the hardened glass. But until then, please puncture the screen with all your might
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And consumers would have that assumption given that Sony's ads show people using a metal tip pen and a pencil to write on the device. But as many users here can attest, that is all marketing bull****. I am even doubting their glass screen to be nothing special (not dragon trail or gorilla glass) - my guess it is just ordinary glass that breaks easily hence them placing an Anti Shatter Sheet.
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dragon tail and gorilla glass will shatter upon impact, even diamond will shatter if you hit it with another rock
I am planning to buy a GadgetShieldz complete body protection. The question is does Z U need it? And if I put a screen protector will the pencil write properly on the screen?
Thanks!
Old topic here on the forum. Yes you probably should think about buying a screenprotector if you going to use a pen. Its an ordinary plastic sheet on the screen molded on and it will get scratched VERY easy. Also the oleofobic coating will wear off with time. In about three months you are going to notice the sheet getting more of a rough texture where you push and swipe your fingers often.
I would say that the stock screen protector has very a low quality in terms of its lifetime and ability to resist scratches.
Examples of quality screen protector:
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
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http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/glass-m-sony-xperia
About the GadgetShieldz. I have never heard of this company before. But its the same bull**** crap salesman promises that its "precision manufactured" and "scratch proof" that you see all around Ebay and small websites out there on the interweb.
Its a plastic sheet okay. Enough of the bragging about the so said quality. Plastic is plastic. Or vinyl or whatever it is.
If you want a screen protector. Try out a solid sheet of glass. Like the ones I linked above or if you find something promising out there.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot. No a screen protector will for the most not disturb the ability to discover pen input. And If you do notice that input skips now and then you can always modify the sensitivity of the touch panel by editing a text file
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Old topic here on the forum. Yes you probably should think about buying a screenprotector if you going to use a pen. Its an ordinary plastic sheet on the screen molded on and it will get scratched VERY easy. Also the oleofobic coating will wear off with time. In about three months you are going to notice the sheet getting more of a rough texture where you push and swipe your fingers often.
I would say that the stock screen protector has very a low quality in terms of its lifetime and ability to resist scratches.
Examples of quality screen protector:
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
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http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/glass-m-sony-xperia
About the GadgetShieldz. I have never heard of this company before. But its the same bull**** crap salesman promises that its "precision manufactured" and "scratch proof" that you see all around Ebay and small websites out there on the interweb.
Its a plastic sheet okay. Enough of the bragging about the so said quality. Plastic is plastic. Or vinyl or whatever it is.
If you want a screen protector. Try out a solid sheet of glass. Like the ones I linked above or if you find something promising out there.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot. No a screen protector will for the most not disturb the ability to discover pen input. And If you do notice that input skips now and then you can always modify the sensitivity of the touch panel by editing a text file
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Thanks a ton friend. Firstly, I have been using GadgetShieldz for about 5 years now. On different phones, it has performed beyond my expectations. However, my question was simply this, that will I need a screen protector, to which I've got my reply, Yes.
And secondly, will using a protector hinder in use of a pen. To which you said, No. But would like if someone using GadgetShieldz replies with their feedback.
But thanks a lot..
I have no experience with the gadgetsheildz so can not comment but i have the Mocolo glass protector (from Superusers link above) on both the front and back of my ZU. My ZU already had a few tiny scratches on the original ASF which have now all but vanished with the mocolo glass in place.
However after testing with both pen and pencil and a coin to test the screenwrite input ability (All worked well and recognition was pretty smooth) the mocolo appears to have picked up a few micro scratches around the area i tested. I Cant be sure what caused it to scratch but i decided to not to use anything other than my finger for input and the write/text input isnt a feature i use much.
Other things i noticed are that although the ZU is huge and can be rather awkward to hold on occasion, i found with the front and back glass applied it has become "more" awkward as it now feels so slippy when holding and it definately moves around the table top a bit too freely for my liking...
Also consider the weight. With both sheets of glass in place there is a definite increase in the overall weight of the device. Many will say the increase is negligible but i find coupled with slippy hand feel, the slightly heavier package just adds to the overall awkwardness of the device.
However there is peace of mind knowing the original glass underneath is well protected :fingers-crossed:
I'm sure these issues could be rectified with the use of a gel case on back which i am considering as my ZU looks amazing and the above glass protector fits like a glove but the phone feels more fragile/vulnerable than before.
My backside has cracked. And I like it. Because it shows that my mocolo did the job it was designed to. :good: I might buy a new set later on. It has not affect my user experience because there are no sharp ends or pieces of glass that can hurt me.
What I like about it is that it makes the z ultra rigid and more durable. Without the sheets I can easily bend my device so I just find it positive to have the sheets. And I just love the extra weight and feeling of glass
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My backside has cracked. And I like it. Because it shows that my mocolo did the job it was designed to. :good: I might buy a new set later on. It has not affect my user experience because there are no sharp ends or pieces of glass that can hurt me.
What I like about it is that it makes the z ultra rigid and more durable. Without the sheets I can easily bend my device so I just find it positive to have the sheets. And I just love the extra weight and feeling of glass
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When you say the back has cracked do you mean the glass underneath the protector has cracked, or has the mocolo glass cracked?
The worry is the front underside glass cracking which from all accounts renders the device non functional to any touch.
Con500 said:
When you say the back has cracked do you mean the glass underneath the protector has cracked, or has the mocolo glass cracked?
The worry is the front underside glass cracking which from all accounts renders the device non functional to any touch.
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The backside mocolo glass has cracked :good:
a question about screen
Hello everyone,
This is my first post here. I have ordered Z Ultra which will be delivered most probably tomorrow. After ordering i read so many complaints about the screen self breaking problem in Xperia Z series and Sony is not covering it in warranty. I am confuse whether to keep the phone or should i return it. Or is there any way to save or protect the screen. Will applying tempered glass protector solve the problem. People has complained screen cracks even after few days of purchase. I am worried about it, dont want to waste my hard earned money
Please suggest guys about the protector.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep Bharaj
sandeep_bharaj said:
Hello everyone,
This is my first post here. I have ordered Z Ultra which will be delivered most probably tomorrow. After ordering i read so many complaints about the screen self breaking problem in Xperia Z series and Sony is not covering it in warranty. I am confuse whether to keep the phone or should i return it. Or is there any way to save or protect the screen. Will applying tempered glass protector solve the problem. People has complained screen cracks even after few days of purchase. I am worried about it, dont want to waste my hard earned money
Please suggest guys about the protector.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep Bharaj
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If you keep it out of your trousers pockets and not placing it where it can be bent (Yes the Z ultra can be bent very easy) .i.e. for example between your doorkeys and heavy books in your bag or tight pockets in your skinny jeans. Or subjecting your device to fast temperature changes for example from direct sunlight indoors to minus degrees winter outdoors and vice versa. Keep it in your pocket to ease the temperature change etc.
Think about the phone like its a glass oven baking dish because it has two safety glass sheets and addition to that it has air trapped inside it because the Z ultra is waterproof or at some level at least (1meter/30min?)
If you are careful where you put it then you don't have to worry that the screen might self crack. I hope I did not scare you now.. :silly:
I have not had an issue with my screen yet at least so you can relax
I put an illumishield screen protector over the stock screen, because of what I read about scratches. So screen protectors are from and back.
Getting the DSC-QX10 lens, so I got the adapter SPA-ACX3 for XZ. Lens locks onto the back of mobile ? Phone .
Plus, I wrap my XZ in a microfiber cloth , and carry in my messenger bag, with NFC Bluetooth headphones .
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If you keep it out of your trousers pockets and not placing it where it can be bent (Yes the Z ultra can be bent very easy) .i.e. for example between your doorkeys and heavy books in your bag or tight pockets in your skinny jeans. Or subjecting your device to fast temperature changes for example from direct sunlight indoors to minus degrees winter outdoors and vice versa. Keep it in your pocket to ease the temperature change etc.
Think about the phone like its a glass oven baking dish because it has two safety glass sheets and addition to that it has air trapped inside it because the Z ultra is waterproof or at some level at least (1meter/30min?)
If you are careful where you put it then you don't have to worry that the screen might self crack. I hope I did not scare you now.. :silly:
I have not had an issue with my screen yet at least so you can relax
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Thanks alot for the reply
I am using it since 4 days with all possible precautions. I havnt put it in my jeans pocket yet. Carrying it in shirt's pocket all the time
Secondly i get in insured :thumbup:
If in case its screen breaks, i ll get something from inssurance company.. actualy phone is really good at d price i got so didnt returned..
Thanks for d suggestions, i ll take care about the temprature change.. will avoid sudden temperatures..
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I wish I didn't listen to the people that told me I didn't need on for the i9100. I had to live with that scratch for nearly 15 months.
Got one from day one with this, and will do for all future phones until I can trust there won't be a single scratch over the life of the phone.
screen protector..
X0LARIUM said:
I am planning to buy a GadgetShieldz complete body protection. The question is does Z U need it? And if I put a screen protector will the pencil write properly on the screen?
Thanks!
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yes.. you need that... i would prevent you screen from scratches.. z ultra is not protected by corning gorilla glass or something.. its just a shatter proof glass.. so its better to buy a screen protector
jsonexe said:
yes.. you need that... i would prevent you screen from scratches.. z ultra is not protected by corning gorilla glass or something.. its just a shatter proof glass.. so its better to buy a screen protector
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Got onE!!
Oh god better find a screen protector fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=571pu66vEBc
That's just really sad...
It makes sense because it's more shatter resistant but more soft. Screen protector it is...
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I just ordered some screen protectors. I planned on going naked but screw that! I'm very disappointed to see how easily it scratches. I swore I read something that GG said the scratch resistance was the same as GG 4. REALLY messed up!
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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What was wrong with those tests? He even made a 2nd video to detail the structural flaws in the phone.
Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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Lol what a dumb comment
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Pointro said:
What was wrong with those tests? He even made a 2nd video to detail the structural flaws in the phone.
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Nexus 6P is nowhere near as flimsy as he made it appear - a lot of people were very doubtful.
Also, with this one, how was the IMEI sticker removed already yet all the plastic was still on the phone? You even saw the residue where the sticker was!
(and no, don't use the "he put all the plastic back on the phone" excuse. No way would you get it back on that perfect).
Yeah, I'm skeptical, but that's my own opinion. I also don't put a lot of faith into drop tests, as each case is different. I've also been one to take very good care of my phones, and don't generally use screen protectors. No real scratches either!
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Brava27 said:
Lol what a dumb comment
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Oh boo hoo - someone doesn't agree with your opinion. Not like I give a damn.
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Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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And the 6P did not bend? My bent after some weeks of normal use
Looks like i will have to use a full body skin.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Samsung did this on purpose.
The conclusion seems to be:
Gorilla Glass 4 - More scratch resistant, less shatter resistant
Gorilla Glass 5 - More shatter resistant, less scratch resistant
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
I'm sure everyone has seen the Tempered Glass Screen Protectors made for Edge screens and the truth is... they're not effective at all as compared to their flat counterparts.
I'm not sure about others, but regular film screen protectors are already highly effective in blocking scratches and they're cheap to replace.
On the other hand, the main reason to get a glass screen protector is to protect against shattering which film protectors aren't effective against.
Which makes me think...
The Note7 has an edge screen which makes it very difficult to have a glass screen protector as protection, yet regular film protectors are still possible.
So, the switch to the more shatter resistant gorilla glass 5 is to make up for the inability to use tempered glass screen protectors and gives us the opportunity to use film screen protectors as a scratch resistance alternative.
Well, that's my theory at least. Might be complete BS, but it doesn't seem that bad to me.
At least, for a device that can't use tempered glass screen protectors, I would want the glass to be more shatter resistant rather than scratch resistant since film does a good job at guarding against scratches.
If a good tempered glass screen protector was available, then I would probably still want Gorilla Glass 5 since glass screen protectors is also extremely effective against scratches.
But if I was to use my phone naked... I'm honestly not sure which I'll want more. Let's hope Gorilla Glass 6 is both scratch and shatter resistant.
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
mk89pwnz said:
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
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The biggest cause of scratches is not keys or scissors or razor blades.
It's the simple elements of our earth that do the damage, namely Sand and Grit.
It only takes a particle of sand or grit to come into contact with the screen, add the element of friction and that causes the vast majority of all scratches.
No matter how this is spun, poorer scratch resistance is not good especially considering this is a device designed to have constant friction on its surface with the stylus.
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This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
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A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
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A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
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Yeah, I believe it was the first time that they have released an official screen protector. So they already know.
Zolares said:
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Samsung did this on purpose.
The conclusion seems to be:
Gorilla Glass 4 - More scratch resistant, less shatter resistant
Gorilla Glass 5 - More shatter resistant, less scratch resistant
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
I'm sure everyone has seen the Tempered Glass Screen Protectors made for Edge screens and the truth is... they're not effective at all as compared to their flat counterparts.
I'm not sure about others, but regular film screen protectors are already highly effective in blocking scratches and they're cheap to replace.
On the other hand, the main reason to get a glass screen protector is to protect against shattering which film protectors aren't effective against.
Which makes me think...
The Note7 has an edge screen which makes it very difficult to have a glass screen protector as protection, yet regular film protectors are still possible.
So, the switch to the more shatter resistant gorilla glass 5 is to make up for the inability to use tempered glass screen protectors and gives us the opportunity to use film screen protectors as a scratch resistance alternative.
Well, that's my theory at least. Might be complete BS, but it doesn't seem that bad to me.
At least, for a device that can't use tempered glass screen protectors, I would want the glass to be more shatter resistant rather than scratch resistant since film does a good job at guarding against scratches.
If a good tempered glass screen protector was available, then I would probably still want Gorilla Glass 5 since glass screen protectors is also extremely effective against scratches.
But if I was to use my phone naked... I'm honestly not sure which I'll want more. Let's hope Gorilla Glass 6 is both scratch and shatter resistant.
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Flexibility (shatter resistance) and hardness (scratch resistance) are mutually exclusive. Maybe some kind of formulation of glass or a different material at some point will help, but honestly I don't think a solution to both of these issues at the same time will come any time soon.
I have never shattered a phone screen and I use minimal cases to protect against scratching. I have had a bad drop or two over the years, but the phone has always survived. I'd take scratch resistance any day of the week.
Film protectors suck ass. They offer no oleophobic properties, gunk up, and feel like **** compared to glass. I will never use of these. I even dislike glass protectors, because if you get a single spec of dirt under them during application or misalign it, might as well throw it in the trash if you have OCD because you're never going to get over it. Plus you add another layer between you and the pixels which is never good for image quality sake. Samsung did a great job with this display and the glass in front of it (e.g. lowest reflectance ever). Putting some cheap ass protector over it, even glass, will be detrimental. Also, good luck finding a decent glass protector that works with the curves. Samsung is probably going to be the absolute best option, so I would skip everything else and just buy that and pray you get the install perfect because knowing Samsung it won't be cheap.
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A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
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Where did you order them from, Samsung's own site? I did a search but can't get to an actual product page for it.
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mk89pwnz said:
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
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EXACTLY. If you shove this in your front pocket with keys and the rest or in a purse with a bunch of crap then I don't feel sorry. I've never scratched a screen, shattered a screen or any of the crap I see. Maybe I'm too AR to let this happen. IDK.
I really hate screen protectors! Although I haven't tried tempered type. To me they degrade viewing . Really irks me that you pay a premium to get a great screen that easily scratches and takes away from the experience .
I'm still gonna try it out, but may be my last samsung if that becomes the new norm.
Having owned the Note 1, Note 2, Galaxy S4 (terrible), I moved to Nexus/Apple and did not want to buy Samsung ever again. I went against myself and pre-ordered the Note 7 thinking maybe this would be a perfect phone for an old man. This video made me cancel the pre-order, I will wait for the next Nexus or iPhone.