suface will get out in this month.
is it possible to flash the win rt rom
on tf201? i know it need time for development .
i just wanna know the possibility.
any professor could answer me?
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I think Windows 8 is programmed to run off Nvidia Tegra 3, hopefully someone will figure it out. I'd jizz in my pants for Windows 8 on my Prime as an option. I see that the Windows 8 tablets have 2 gigs of ram, opposed to the 1gig in the Android tablets.
Asus tablet with Windows 8 : http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/29/nvidia-epic-unreal-engine-windows-rt/
Transformer Prime 600 : http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/459...-windows-rt-operating-system-at-computex-2012
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I think Windows 8 is programmed to run off Nvidia Tegra 3, hopefully someone will figure it out. I'd jizz in my pants for Windows 8 on my Prime as an option. I see that the Windows 8 tablets have 2 gigs of ram, opposed to the 1gig in the Android tablets.
Asus tablet with Windows 8 : http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/29/nvidia-epic-unreal-engine-windows-rt/
Transformer Prime 600 : http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/459...-windows-rt-operating-system-at-computex-2012
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We can hope but I have already read how windows 8 RT requires "Secureboot" or it will not load. So to get it to work would mean some MAJOR hacking. Other than ROM development in the dev forum I don't much else happening.
hx4700 Killer said:
We can hope but I have already read how windows 8 RT requires "Secureboot" or it will not load. So to get it to work would mean some MAJOR hacking. Other than ROM development in the dev forum I don't much else happening.
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I think Secureboot has already been worked around. I was reading a few articles about it a while ago.
I found this also :
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/08/secure-boot/
Nightpath said:
I think Secureboot has already been worked around. I was reading a few articles about it a while ago.
I found this also :
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/08/secure-boot/
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I think you miss the point of the aticle. It doesnt circumvent secure boot, rather allow users to input their own signature keys so they can control whatever is run on their box.
Secondly, a transformer prime doesnt have secureboot on it to begin booting the OS.
Don't misunderstand me here either, while I think it highly unlikely I would LOVE to have the option to put Win 8 on my Prime.
I see what you're saying now. I can see that Secureboot being circumvented.
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This may sound like a weird question, but I am just curious to know if it is possible to install windows 7, or xp on Galaxy tab 10.1. As my limited knowledge about computers tells me, GT is essentially a computer with a cpu and ram and a kind of hard drive, so theoretically at least, it seems to me that it should be possible to install windows on the tablet.
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This may sound like a weird question, but I am just curious to know if it is possible to install windows 7, or xp on Galaxy tab 10.1. As my limited knowledge about computers tells me, GT is essentially a computer with a cpu and ram and a kind of hard drive, so theoretically at least, it seems to me that it should be possible to install windows on the tablet.
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Welcome to the forums. The answer is no. Windows won't run on the chip that's in the tablet (it's called ARM architecture; same reason windows won't run on a cellphone). I've heard rumors that windows 8 may be possible at some point.
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
5thElement said:
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
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and how did you manage this?
5thElement said:
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
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You have the install disc sitting on your Tab?
Seriously, though. That sounds like horse**** from the same guy who claims to have played with Kal-el devices. Let's see a video.
How's this?
Splashtop HD running my home computer from work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0x48GuhNnI
Excuse the fumbling. It's hard to work the screen looking at the phone screen. And I should mention that we only have an 802.11g connection here at work.
Thank you Jay Evans for proving them wrong.
Well, holy hell! That means I have OS X Lion running on my Tab.
Thank you for the replies. Although I understand that some of us here might be in a rather humorous mood, but just to clarify: my question was not about remote desktops. I still think there has to be a way to have windows running on GT. Another question in this regard is about virtual machines. Is there any kind of VM available for honeycomb tablets?
While it might be possible you wouldn't enjoy the results. Especialy if you want to run actual programs on it. It would be as slow as molassas and suck the battery dry in no time.
Better to buy a Win 7 tablet and wait for something like Bluestacks to run Android or wait for the ARM version of Win 8.
It won't happen, Windows is based off x86 architecture and Android Tablets and phones are based off of ARM architecture, Windows 8 will have support for ARM though, so wait a year
While the answer to your question is still 'no', it is possible to run Windows 95 or 98 using emulators. There is a QEMU port for Android ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6661598 ) that does it, and I've also heard that you can install windows using AnDosBox.
So I'd like some help in figuring out how to get Windows 8 on the Galaxy Tablet 10.1...Where do begin, in order to make this happen?
It's very simple actually:
1) put the Windows 8 DVD into the galaxy tab
2) press ctrl-alt-delete
3) dunk your tablet in a lukewarm solution of flour, salt, baking soda, and milk
4) make up a raindance
5) do 30 seconds of research, including a simple search of the forums, before you post
You can actually skip the salt in #3. Usless step.
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Same question i have been seeing in the Galaxy Tab 7, re-posted many times xD
Why would you like to see windows on tablet? if you want just simply go buy the new samsung Tablet ( laptop) with windows inside it
k0sh said:
Same question i have been seeing in the Galaxy Tab 7, re-posted many times xD
Why would you like to see windows on tablet? if you want just simply go buy the new samsung Tablet ( laptop) with windows inside it
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That logic is retarded.
You could say the same thing about any development thread were people are porting roms/os's to non original devices.
The whole point of XDA is to push our devices to the limits, this sometimes means putting roms, operating systems and apps on our devices that were never designed for them.
@ OP
You will not see Win8 on non-windows devices until devs find a way to boot the ISO/build and also locate drivers for them. Once this happens you wont need to create topics like this as you will just need to look for a few seconds or use search to find topic.
SSD in the Galaxy
I would guess that the Samsung Windows 8 tablet and the Galaxy 10.1 would share some similarities within the chipset, which would probably mean windows 8 'may' already have quite a few drives for the tablet.
Is there a way to access the SSD drive on the Samsung Galaxy as a raw device rather than MTP?
Windows 8 on any current android tablet won't happen, there are only x86 and x86_64 builds out, so until Microsoft comes with an arm build, doesn't matter if you can boot an ISO since the tablet is not able to run x86 or x86_64 binaries
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Windows 8 on any current android tablet won't happen, there are only x86 and x86_64 builds out, so until Microsoft comes with an arm build, doesn't matter if you can boot an ISO since the tablet is not able to run x86 or x86_64 binaries
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Damn, I forgot, after you add the salt, but before you do the raindance, you have to create an ARM build of Windows 8. I always leave out an important step...
It seems you forgot that you need to use a Mac on Mars to do the Windows 8 build
Thor Erik said:
Windows 8 on any current android tablet won't happen, there are only x86 and x86_64 builds out, so until Microsoft comes with an arm build, doesn't matter if you can boot an ISO since the tablet is not able to run x86 or x86_64 binaries
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<serious>This is the key sticking point for now. Once Microsoft releases an ARM build for Win8, there may be a chance of getting it onto the SGT10.1.</serious>
Alternatively, if you can find a way of booting your Tab using a .iso stored on another Tab, whilst repeating the correct initiation spell 3 times backwards then it's not a difficult process.
Less likely. The nVidia chipset in our tablets (got the 8.9) is crap. It struggles with HC... let alone a windows OS...
Also, what people don't realize is even if Microsoft releases an ARM build of windows, it won't run their normal x86 apps either.
You'd be surprised how many apps use managed .net, those apps will run nicely(ish) on arm since you got a JIT in between the application layer and the kernel level
It will probably be more likely to get a windows 8 tab and attempt a dual install of Android. Android 1.6 I believe was possible, I did it on my NetBook but with no touchscreen it was pointless lol
Hi @ all,
it is funny to see how XDA people react on a simple question.
Simple question <-> a lot of know how and strange terms...
The little OP stays there and take the arms up to the head and says: ahhhhh
Everybody from us know how it is when the know how grows, more and more.
But please.... never forget where we all come from based on the first day with a mobile phone and XDA was online. We all are beginners, every day when the sun comes up.
BTW:
Question for the OP: why do you want to run windows on a tab? Because it is possible, or it is your favior to click on popups?
Thats a serious question.
NOTE:
In the past (long time go) we had have printers as screen. Oops, that was to far in the past.
I was really there. Oops, how old i am?
PM:
Android is a good and stable OS and i hope it takes over Windows once. Long life UNIX...
OK. I have only one question. Why it is posible to install win8 on ipad one and two and not on our tabs?
Strazzi said:
OK. I have only one question. Why it is posible to install win8 on ipad one and two and not on our tabs?
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You mean this? Its not actually running it, and look how sluggish that is.its just remote desktop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxTJ0Bzf9SA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Good lord, Remote desktop and installing are 2 different things../facepalm
You don't actually think he installed it on the iPad right? Then again I have ubuntu on 10.1, does that mean I installed it? :\
if you have an external HDD, how does it work with an android device like ss galaxy tab? does it recognize it? I don't have a tablet to try this. suppose I could try my phone, but it doesn't have a usb port and I don't have an adapter.
Try to use MacOSX...it's also LINUX based...TABUNTU re-writes the boot so that you see the familiar LINUX bootscreen,and something more,it recognizes our processor as x86,I know it's armv7 but That is possible and I am serious...
I was curious if anyone had any idea if the Prime would be able to run Win RT when released. I think it would be awesome to have access to both systems on this hardware. Hey the Asus Tablet 600 has a Tegra 3 also.
Given how the Prime struggles to run Android properly, I wouldn't place much hope on it. Certainly Asus wouldn't be supporting it. They're too busy as it is trying to fix up the Android experience.
Maybe the XDA devs will come up with something...
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I was curious if anyone had any idea if the Prime would be able to run Win RT when released. I think it would be awesome to have access to both systems on this hardware. Hey the Asus Tablet 600 has a Tegra 3 also.
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From what I understand, the Asus Tablet 600 basically a Transformer Prime, except it has double the RAM. So, I'm certain it would run on our TF201s, but the problem is Win RT is only available installed on new devices. You won't be able to buy a disc or download it from MS like Win 7 or W8. If someone were to somehow extract the image from a device, say the 600, I'm sure it would be more likely than not that it would run on our tabs.
I'm also hoping for this to happen. Dual boot would be sick, but I might even replace Android with WinRT if I had to. I'd probably go back and fourth between OSes if it weren't too complicated.
Fingers crossed
from what i have read, windows rt would require a different bootloader.
so there is basically no chance it would come to the tf201
From what I've read won't be able to run Windows 8rt on my Prime, since its not open sourced.
But is it correct that I can buy a Windows 8rt tablet, like the asus tf600 and install android on it?
The reason I ask is because I have to replace my Prime anyway and would like to get the best bang for my buck.
Thanks in advance
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I suppose there may be a method considering you can dual boot Windows and Linux. So I guess there IS hope but I wouldn't count on a method being developed quickly.
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From what I've read won't be able to run Windows 8rt on my Prime, since its not open sourced.
But is it correct that I can buy a Windows 8rt tablet, like the asus tf600 and install android on it?
The reason I ask is because I have to replace my Prime anyway and would like to get the best bang for my buck.
Thanks in advance
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I wouldnt count on it until you have seen it happen.
Don't get an itchy trigger finger based on a what if
I dont think it would be possible. Microsoft locked their tablets down pretty hard. I would be surprised if you could install open software on it, without using exploits and stuff. But i'm no expert
On the other hand, why would you want Windows RT anyway? If you need office look into softmaker office for android Its really good.
You will NEVER be able to use Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Android on the same System. They are not compatible because of the hardware!
You could only use Android & Windows RT --> ARM Processors
Or Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Linux --> x86 Processors
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You will NEVER be able to use Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Android on the same System. They are not compatible because of the hardware!
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I´m not a expert, but this is possible! I have on my wetab (x86) the android x86 version.
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You could only use Android & Windows RT --> ARM Processors
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this is more interesting and I ´m looking how to become android (like tf300 or tf700) on my tf 600.
Yeah me too
maybe if you got one with Windows 8 Pro (like the surface Pro) you could run Bluestacks on it. That will run Android apps, just not the whole operating system.
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I dont think it would be possible. Microsoft locked their tablets down pretty hard. I would be surprised if you could install open software on it, without using exploits and stuff. But i'm no expert
On the other hand, why would you want Windows RT anyway? If you need office look into softmaker office for android Its really good.
You will NEVER be able to use Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Android on the same System. They are not compatible because of the hardware!
You could only use Android & Windows RT --> ARM Processors
Or Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Linux --> x86 Processors
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There are Linux distros for ARM processors.
SecureBoot
Now that linux can get past SecureBoot, this seems vaguely possible. I'm no expert though.
sa- said:
Now that linux can get past SecureBoot, this seems vaguely possible. I'm no expert though.
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The main issue is still that W8 is closed source software as well as paid software. It would technically be illegal
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McJesus15 said:
The main issue is still that W8 is closed source software as well as paid software. It would technically be illegal
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When has something being illegal stopped anyone? :highfive:
hey guys does any of you out there know and can leave me a comment about if there is a windows for tablet ? eee pad transformer prime tf 201
doesnt matter which windows either xp or 7 or 8
ill be glad to see a comment in the near future
Only Windows RT can run on the TF201, and that is only if Asus lets us by providing the Windows installer customised for the Prime complete with bootloader, which is pretty unlikely. XP, 7 and 8 cannot run on the TF201 because they require the x86 architecture, whereas Windows RT runs on ARM.
That said, porting *may* be possible since our device is quite close to reference Windows RT tablets - Tegra 3, 1GB RAM, the works.
yo check this out
http://kat.ph/windows-7-professional-x86-by-rt-seven-lite-t6018593.html
i found some thing with "RT" tell me if it works
PS : i had no idea what you were talking about but yet just tell me if there is any available windows for the transformer prime
Thank you for your help )
i also found this !!
http://thepiratebay.se/search/windows 8 rt/0/99/0
check it out !!
tell me if any of it work will you ?!!
madshark2009 said:
i also found this !!
http://thepiratebay.se/search/windows 8 rt/0/99/0
check it out !!
tell me if any of it work will you ?!!
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Thats windows 7 RT. Its made for x86 / x64 architecture. Our devices use Arm based architecture. As stated in many other "windows 8 " threads on here, it is not possible as windows 8 requires a license for one ( making it illegal to port ), but also that it requires a different bootloader which we dont have access to for our device.
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what @pandaball & @pyraxiate said is true... the only Windows version capable of running on our devices is Windows 8 RT... but Windows 8 RT requires an encrypted and Microsoft-signed bootloader to run... so unless Asus releases such a bootloader for the Prime (which is very unlikely), the chances of getting Windows on this device are extremely slim and next to none...
Also, it would be illegal to port and share Windows, especially given that Windows 8 RT is not commercially available for purchase and will only come pre-installed...
That said, you should not be posting like to warez sites and link to torrents sharing illegal software here... it is against the rules!!
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what @pandaball & @pyraxiate said is true... the only Windows version capable of running on our devices is Windows 8 RT... but Windows 8 RT requires an encrypted and Microsoft-signed bootloader to run... so unless Asus releases such a bootloader for the Prime (which is very unlikely), the chances of getting Windows on this device are extremely slim and next to none...
Also, it would be illegal to port and share Windows, especially given that Windows 8 RT is not commercially available for purchase and will only come pre-installed...
That said, you should not be posting like to warez sites and link to torrents sharing illegal software here... it is against the rules!!
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Glad to see you are still slumming in the tf201 forums
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I'm sure some people wouldn't have an issue paying for the Licencing if it came down to it, making it legal..... Surely the Asus Windows RT tablet would have something that we could take?
Microsoft won't do that - the device is unlockable so anyone coult try to decrypt their bootloader /bios - definitely bad for them. Apart from lack of Windows button there are plenty of incompatibilities - video card have to be DirectX 10 capable. AFAIK DirectX 11 may be supported from Tegra 4.
So summing up - no chance, even for hackers I think