hey guys does any of you out there know and can leave me a comment about if there is a windows for tablet ? eee pad transformer prime tf 201
doesnt matter which windows either xp or 7 or 8
ill be glad to see a comment in the near future
Only Windows RT can run on the TF201, and that is only if Asus lets us by providing the Windows installer customised for the Prime complete with bootloader, which is pretty unlikely. XP, 7 and 8 cannot run on the TF201 because they require the x86 architecture, whereas Windows RT runs on ARM.
That said, porting *may* be possible since our device is quite close to reference Windows RT tablets - Tegra 3, 1GB RAM, the works.
yo check this out
http://kat.ph/windows-7-professional-x86-by-rt-seven-lite-t6018593.html
i found some thing with "RT" tell me if it works
PS : i had no idea what you were talking about but yet just tell me if there is any available windows for the transformer prime
Thank you for your help )
i also found this !!
http://thepiratebay.se/search/windows 8 rt/0/99/0
check it out !!
tell me if any of it work will you ?!!
madshark2009 said:
i also found this !!
http://thepiratebay.se/search/windows 8 rt/0/99/0
check it out !!
tell me if any of it work will you ?!!
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Thats windows 7 RT. Its made for x86 / x64 architecture. Our devices use Arm based architecture. As stated in many other "windows 8 " threads on here, it is not possible as windows 8 requires a license for one ( making it illegal to port ), but also that it requires a different bootloader which we dont have access to for our device.
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what @pandaball & @pyraxiate said is true... the only Windows version capable of running on our devices is Windows 8 RT... but Windows 8 RT requires an encrypted and Microsoft-signed bootloader to run... so unless Asus releases such a bootloader for the Prime (which is very unlikely), the chances of getting Windows on this device are extremely slim and next to none...
Also, it would be illegal to port and share Windows, especially given that Windows 8 RT is not commercially available for purchase and will only come pre-installed...
That said, you should not be posting like to warez sites and link to torrents sharing illegal software here... it is against the rules!!
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what @pandaball & @pyraxiate said is true... the only Windows version capable of running on our devices is Windows 8 RT... but Windows 8 RT requires an encrypted and Microsoft-signed bootloader to run... so unless Asus releases such a bootloader for the Prime (which is very unlikely), the chances of getting Windows on this device are extremely slim and next to none...
Also, it would be illegal to port and share Windows, especially given that Windows 8 RT is not commercially available for purchase and will only come pre-installed...
That said, you should not be posting like to warez sites and link to torrents sharing illegal software here... it is against the rules!!
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Glad to see you are still slumming in the tf201 forums
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I'm sure some people wouldn't have an issue paying for the Licencing if it came down to it, making it legal..... Surely the Asus Windows RT tablet would have something that we could take?
Microsoft won't do that - the device is unlockable so anyone coult try to decrypt their bootloader /bios - definitely bad for them. Apart from lack of Windows button there are plenty of incompatibilities - video card have to be DirectX 10 capable. AFAIK DirectX 11 may be supported from Tegra 4.
So summing up - no chance, even for hackers I think
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Morning, i've been looking at the ASUS Prime for a while now and my it looks amazing... however, i do c++ work in some of my programming classes and my ultimate question is will it be able to support windows 8? Many people have mentioned running remote desktop and doing my programming from my table... i'm just trying to find a smaller portable alternative then my 17 inch ASUS laptop.
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Morning, i've been looking at the ASUS Prime for a while now and my it looks amazing... however, i do c++ work in some of my programming classes and my ultimate question is will it be able to support windows 8? Many people have mentioned running remote desktop and doing my programming from my table... i'm just trying to find a smaller portable alternative then my 17 inch ASUS laptop.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1465&nojs=1#goto_forumsearch
Officially: No, the Transformer Prime will not support Windows 8 because A) it doesn't support the minimum hardware specs, and B) it's unlikely that Asus will work with Microsoft to get official certification for the device.
Unofficially: I'd be rather surprised if the hackers here on XDA don't figure out a way to get it running at some point. No promises on when/if or how well it will work when they do.
Linux C/C++ programming can be done on device by installing the tools (easier in anDebian chroot), but Windows development is limited to cross compiling.
You will not see Win8 on this thing but someday ASUS may release a similar device that has it out of box.
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Thanks for the info
I know that its not cross compatable, but cany you take the code from the document and copy and paste it to visual studios to run a compatable windows build.
I just want to ask you if, now that the bootloader can be unlocked, there are some possibilities to have win on this tablet... all the version are acceptable.. (2000 and upper) if there's not an emulator, are there chance of do it in the near future?
I've seen the page where is explained how to install 2000/XP on the htc evo3D, could it work also whit the transformer?
Your best hope is for Windows 8 which will support ARM processors. All windows version currently available do not support ARM. Also once windows 8 comes out it will require some development to get it to work.
You can have Windows 3.1 running on it now with DOSbox
But I really don't think that any version of Windows will ever work on the TP (although with XDA devs who knows?). The only Arm-based windows available are Windows CE and Windows 8. CE will never work outside of emulators, and MS has said themselves that they will not be supporting any kind of x86/64 emulators in order to run the 99% of Win software available today. So you will be stuck with what software devs decide to port or write from scratch.
Also, MS has said that it will not be selling licenses to end users. They will only be released on hardware. Doesn't mean someone won't pull it off of there and tweak it, but it is not going to be available like XP/ 7 is.
What do you need windows for that you can't do on Android or Ubuntu?
MegaWath said:
I've seen the page where is explained how to install 2000/XP on the htc evo3D, could it work also whit the transformer?
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You saw that page but the 453 threads on this topic you missed?
Search next time.
I was curious if anyone had any idea if the Prime would be able to run Win RT when released. I think it would be awesome to have access to both systems on this hardware. Hey the Asus Tablet 600 has a Tegra 3 also.
Given how the Prime struggles to run Android properly, I wouldn't place much hope on it. Certainly Asus wouldn't be supporting it. They're too busy as it is trying to fix up the Android experience.
Maybe the XDA devs will come up with something...
celsius1 said:
I was curious if anyone had any idea if the Prime would be able to run Win RT when released. I think it would be awesome to have access to both systems on this hardware. Hey the Asus Tablet 600 has a Tegra 3 also.
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From what I understand, the Asus Tablet 600 basically a Transformer Prime, except it has double the RAM. So, I'm certain it would run on our TF201s, but the problem is Win RT is only available installed on new devices. You won't be able to buy a disc or download it from MS like Win 7 or W8. If someone were to somehow extract the image from a device, say the 600, I'm sure it would be more likely than not that it would run on our tabs.
I'm also hoping for this to happen. Dual boot would be sick, but I might even replace Android with WinRT if I had to. I'd probably go back and fourth between OSes if it weren't too complicated.
Fingers crossed
from what i have read, windows rt would require a different bootloader.
so there is basically no chance it would come to the tf201
hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
With all respect
madshark2009 said:
hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
With all respect
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Tablet based on Tegra or Snapdragon gets Windows RT. This is Windows for ARM and will not run normal PC games.
Tabled based on X86 (for example Intel) gets Windows 8. This is windows for PC and will be able to run normal PC games (and windows applications). (if the GPU has enough power ofcourse)
Though I expect the ARM version will have much better battery life and is more suitable for a tablet.
And keep in mind that game developers are already making game engines for Windows RT. For example, there is already a demo for the Unreal3 Engine.
madshark2009 said:
hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
With all respect
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i believe you're expecting to intall windows on Prime. Sorry to dissapoint you, but this will not be possible.. Windows 8 for tablet will only be available for OEM.
ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
madshark2009 said:
ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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Only available to manufacturers. Is not like normal windows where you buy a license on a store and install on any x86 computer. Is more like Windows Phones where the OS is attached with the phone..
And since is a closed source OS, i doubt the community can install it on other devices (maybe on tablets where exists models for both versions with the same hardware this can be done, i don't know)
madshark2009 said:
ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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If you search wikipedia for Windows 8 RT you will see the hardware requirements and then see why you should not expect to see W8 on the TFP:
Hardware buttons: Must have five hardware buttons - 'Power', 'Rotation lock', 'Windows Key', 'Volume-up', 'Volume-down'. The Windows Key to be at least 10.5 mm in diameter.
Five-point digitizers: Microsoft requires that Windows 8 touch PCs use digitizers supporting a minimum of five touch points.
Mobile Broadband: If a mobile broadband device is integrated into a tablet or convertible system, then an assisted GPS radio is required
Display: Minimum native resolution/color depth is 1366x768 at a depth of 32-bits. The physical dimensions of the display panel must match the aspect ratio of the native resolution. The native resolution of the panel can be greater than 1366 (horizontally) and 768 (vertically).
Near field communication: Devices supporting NFC need to have visual marks to help users locate and use the proximity technology.
New button combination for Control-Alt-Delete: The new option is to press Windows Key + Power.
Storage: At least 10 GB free space, after the out-of-box experience completes.
Graphics: Direct3D 10 device with WDDM 1.2 driver
Camera: Minimum resolution 1280 x 720[5]
Ambient light sensor: 1-30k lux capable with dynamic range of 5-60K.
Accelerometer: three axes with data rates at or above 50 Hz
Magnetometer and gyroscope
USB 2.0: At least one controller and exposed port.
Networking: WLAN and Bluetooth 4.0 + LE (low energy)
System firmware: UEFI
Built-in speaker and microphone[6]
If anyone can resolve the hardware issues they then have to persuade MS to supply them with W8 Licences (projected to be 85$). There is no indication that W8RT will be sold as a retail product and it will be sold to tablet manufacturers - OEM's -original equipment manufacturer / manufacturing.
If I remember correctly, there was an app you could download from Google Play Store which would allow you to run a version of Windows 8 on your Transformer tablets. It required that you have W8 installed on a desktop and connected your tablet to it. If the system can run the OS if you paid for the app, it should be able to run it standalone as well. Just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions...
Long story short, possible but unlikely.
You're looking for Windows RT, the ARM version of Windows 8 (vs the Intel version that will run all the old apps we known and love and run on our intel computers). It is certainly possible (hell, probably extremely easy) to install Windows RT on our Transformer Primes. In fact I'd venture a guess to say most of Asus' Windows RT tablets are nothing but transformers, an extra button, and a few extra hardware features Windows mandates it have (ie the "Windows" button). That being said, in a TECHNICAL sense, it should be uber easy to install Windows RT.
The issue comes with licensing, legalese, and most of the crap most of us here hate because all it does is make our lives more difficult and expensive when we know damn well the hardware is capable. Microsoft has already said a few things that don't sit right with me. A few below:
1. All Windows RT devices must have locked UEFI bootloaders (ie, NO installing Android or Ubuntu, when all 3 COULD be installed in dual-triple boot configurations)
2. Windows RT will only be available to OEMs to be installed from the factory (no installing to Android devices, despite the hardware being capable.)
3. All Windows RT devices must only be able to install software from the market (with MS's 30% cut like Apple) and ONLY be for the metro environment, not the legacy desktop.
This all being said, I'm the proud owner of the HTC HD2 and if you look at that thing, which Microsoft said would never get Windows Phone despite satisfying 98% of their hardware specs, it's currently running the latest versions of Windows Phone AND Android (JB). This is all from a device that shipped with Windows MOBILE 6.5 in October of 2010. Performance is on par with single-core windows phones and single-core snapdragon chips (similar to what's in the original EVO).
It's possible, the question is, who's willing to cross Microsoft, and what kind of encryption needs to be broken first. It WILL happen, the question is a) how long and b) which devices are popular/worth it enough to MAKE it happen.
Until Microsoft fixes their current trajectory to their own 'clo$ed eco$y$tem' like Apple, I'll wait...
suface will get out in this month.
is it possible to flash the win rt rom
on tf201? i know it need time for development .
i just wanna know the possibility.
any professor could answer me?
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I think Windows 8 is programmed to run off Nvidia Tegra 3, hopefully someone will figure it out. I'd jizz in my pants for Windows 8 on my Prime as an option. I see that the Windows 8 tablets have 2 gigs of ram, opposed to the 1gig in the Android tablets.
Asus tablet with Windows 8 : http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/29/nvidia-epic-unreal-engine-windows-rt/
Transformer Prime 600 : http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/459...-windows-rt-operating-system-at-computex-2012
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I think Windows 8 is programmed to run off Nvidia Tegra 3, hopefully someone will figure it out. I'd jizz in my pants for Windows 8 on my Prime as an option. I see that the Windows 8 tablets have 2 gigs of ram, opposed to the 1gig in the Android tablets.
Asus tablet with Windows 8 : http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/29/nvidia-epic-unreal-engine-windows-rt/
Transformer Prime 600 : http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/459...-windows-rt-operating-system-at-computex-2012
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We can hope but I have already read how windows 8 RT requires "Secureboot" or it will not load. So to get it to work would mean some MAJOR hacking. Other than ROM development in the dev forum I don't much else happening.
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We can hope but I have already read how windows 8 RT requires "Secureboot" or it will not load. So to get it to work would mean some MAJOR hacking. Other than ROM development in the dev forum I don't much else happening.
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I think Secureboot has already been worked around. I was reading a few articles about it a while ago.
I found this also :
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/08/secure-boot/
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I think Secureboot has already been worked around. I was reading a few articles about it a while ago.
I found this also :
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/08/secure-boot/
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I think you miss the point of the aticle. It doesnt circumvent secure boot, rather allow users to input their own signature keys so they can control whatever is run on their box.
Secondly, a transformer prime doesnt have secureboot on it to begin booting the OS.
Don't misunderstand me here either, while I think it highly unlikely I would LOVE to have the option to put Win 8 on my Prime.
I see what you're saying now. I can see that Secureboot being circumvented.