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So when I go to the local Sprint store, they recommend the PDANet app as a way to tether for free. Great. I use it on the laptop. Works fine. But if I simply want to eliminate the USB cable and do exactly the same thing, they charge a dollar a day to eliminate the USB cable? I can't be the only one who thinks this is excessive!
So what are we really paying for when we pay for Sprint Hotspot? Whenever someone mentions rooting and using free wifi tether, there's always the "but you're stealing from Sprint" excuse. How can that be? My free wired tether (officially recommended by Sprint employees) is using exactly the same amount of Sprint's 3G bandwidth as it is when I use a free wireless tether app on root. So we know it isn't the data we're paying for. We're paying Sprint $30/mo for the privilege of not using a USB cable? I know it's possible that several (potentially many) devices could connect via a wifi access point, but technically if you know what you are doing, you can share an access point on a laptop easily too once you've connected the phone via the USB cable.
So I guess I don't get it. What am I missing? Why couldn't Sprint at least offer a single-connection hotspot option for FREE? It's obvious that Sprint wants to be seen as the "unlimited" provider. Giving the option to at least wirelessly tether a single device would put them in the lead. DO IT SPRINT!
Mike
mikeyxda said:
So when I go to the local Sprint store, they recommend the PDANet app as a way to tether for free. Great. I use it on the laptop. Works fine. But if I simply want to eliminate the USB cable and do exactly the same thing, they charge a dollar a day to eliminate the USB cable? I can't be the only one who thinks this is excessive!
So what are we really paying for when we pay for Sprint Hotspot? Whenever someone mentions rooting and using free wifi tether, there's always the "but you're stealing from Sprint" excuse. How can that be? My free wired tether (officially recommended by Sprint employees) is using exactly the same amount of Sprint's 3G bandwidth as it is when I use a free wireless tether app on root. So we know it isn't the data we're paying for. We're paying Sprint $30/mo for the privilege of not using a USB cable? I know it's possible that several (potentially many) devices could connect via a wifi access point, but technically if you know what you are doing, you can share an access point on a laptop easily too once you've connected the phone via the USB cable.
So I guess I don't get it. What am I missing? Why couldn't Sprint at least offer a single-connection hotspot option for FREE? It's obvious that Sprint wants to be seen as the "unlimited" provider. Giving the option to at least wirelessly tether a single device would put them in the lead. DO IT SPRINT!
Mike
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You probably got the one either retarded, or just nice and down to earth rep. Spring does not sanction the use of any tethering app, that's why they charge to use the built in one. Whoever told you that shouldn't have done so.
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You probably got the one either retarded, or just nice and down to earth rep. Spring does not sanction the use of any tethering app, that's why they charge to use the built in one. Whoever told you that shouldn't have done so.
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The app is in the market and doesn't require root. If they have a problem with Google's market and the apps within, then they should not run the Android OS. Sprint is just trying to sucker people by charging for this free feature.
fmedina2 said:
The app is in the market and doesn't require root. If they have a problem with Google's market and the apps within, then they should not run the Android OS. Sprint is just trying to sucker people by charging for this free feature.
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While this is true, they still don't condone tethering without paying for the hotspot. It's not unheard of for Sprint to drop customers over excessive data usage due to tethering.
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While this is true, they still don't condone tethering without paying for the hotspot. It's not unheard of for Sprint to drop customers over excessive data usage due to tethering.
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How would that work legally? It is a free app in the marketplace.
Sprint, and all other ISPs, have to pay for the bandwidth we use. When they offer us an "unlimited" plan they make a calculated guess as to how much data we may actually use and price their plan accordingly. They then hope we don't use too much.
However, the ability to tether throws the isps for a loop because of the potential for using so much more data. So they charge us an additional fee to cover the "excessive" bandwidth costs!
Of course they will never admit that the cost is for bandwidth since we are supposedly getting "unlimited". Its a catch-22 of lies for everyone.
Frankly, I get that bandwidth costs money. But I think its BS for a company to sell us unlimited data and then charge extra if we actually use it.
Either way, once this thing is rooted we will get around it.
Richard
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mikeyxda said:
So when I go to the local Sprint store, they recommend the PDANet app as a way to tether for free. Great. I use it on the laptop. Works fine. But if I simply want to eliminate the USB cable and do exactly the same thing, they charge a dollar a day to eliminate the USB cable? I can't be the only one who thinks this is excessive!
So what are we really paying for when we pay for Sprint Hotspot? Whenever someone mentions rooting and using free wifi tether, there's always the "but you're stealing from Sprint" excuse. How can that be? My free wired tether (officially recommended by Sprint employees) is using exactly the same amount of Sprint's 3G bandwidth as it is when I use a free wireless tether app on root. So we know it isn't the data we're paying for. We're paying Sprint $30/mo for the privilege of not using a USB cable? I know it's possible that several (potentially many) devices could connect via a wifi access point, but technically if you know what you are doing, you can share an access point on a laptop easily too once you've connected the phone via the USB cable.
So I guess I don't get it. What am I missing? Why couldn't Sprint at least offer a single-connection hotspot option for FREE? It's obvious that Sprint wants to be seen as the "unlimited" provider. Giving the option to at least wirelessly tether a single device would put them in the lead. DO IT SPRINT!
Mike
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Sprint's terms & conditions specifically prohibit tethering, unless paying for a plan that specifically allows for tethering. A Sprint rep telling you that you can tether for free doesn't suddenly change this fact. It might give you some leeway if you're caught tethering, but you're still against the T&C of your service.
I would prefer legitimately being able to tether without paying extra, but Sprint has the right to charge for it.
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How would that work legally? It is a free app in the marketplace.
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PDAnet isn't free, you have to buy the app or at least the full version. And Sprint can't ban the app because it can be used on many platforms and many devices so how do you think Sprint can ban it from the Android Market, Sprint doesn't own the Market, Google does.
Your whole argument in this thread is invalid. Sprint has every right to charge for its services and if you don't want to pay for them don't. If there are legit ways to get around the charges than do it. Don't whine here.
Good points and that's kinda why I brought it up. You have to wonder about both the present and the future of paid wireless tethering. I'm hoping soon that Sprint will lead the way to free tethering by announcing that they are the only company who now offers free wifi hotspots. Imagine how many people would switch THEN!
For now, we have free wired tethering that Sprint employees are (maybe "unofficially") supporting but yet you have to pay to do the same thing without the wire. And then there's the Nexus S which can do free wireless tether right out of the box as a standard feature. Sprint sets those up for you too, activates the phone, and you walk out of the store with a phone that does for free what they are charging us Evo 3D owners $30/mo for.
You gotta wonder WTF is up with the status of wireless tethering here.
Mike
mikeyxda said:
Good points and that's kinda why I brought it up. You have to wonder about both the present and the future of paid wireless tethering. I'm hoping soon that Sprint will lead the way to free tethering by announcing that they are the only company who now offers free wifi hotspots. Imagine how many people would switch THEN!
For now, we have free wired tethering that Sprint employees are (maybe "unofficially") supporting but yet you have to pay to do the same thing without the wire. And then there's the Nexus S which can do free wireless tether right out of the box as a standard feature. Sprint sets those up for you too, activates the phone, and you walk out of the store with a phone that does for free what they are charging us Evo 3D owners $30/mo for.
You gotta wonder WTF is up with the status of wireless tethering here.
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They charge you because they can. There is no other reason. They set the price as high as they think they can and still get a decent number of people to bite. The only reason the Nexus S does it for free out of the box is because Google didn't let Sprint tamper with the software and disable the feature.
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PDAnet isn't free, you have to buy the app or at least the full version. And Sprint can't ban the app because it can be used on many platforms and many devices so how do you think Sprint can ban it from the Android Market, Sprint doesn't own the Market, Google does.
Your whole argument in this thread is invalid. Sprint has every right to charge for its services and if you don't want to pay for them don't. If there are legit ways to get around the charges than do it. Don't whine here.
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AT&T & Verizon (from what I know) do in fact have tethering apps filtered out of the market on their service...
...I recall hearing that Sprint had a non-anti-tether-app policy, officially. I'm pretty sure I heard that on Androidcentral, but don't remember specifically.
Just don't abuse your tethering.
Though, truth be told, I could saturate that wimpy 3G connection with pandora and basic web surfing--on my phone....so I don't see what the big deal is...and 4G isn't metered by Sprint.
I say keep tethering, hopefully Sprint will overcompensate for the extra bandwidth people are abusing.
I've used the wireless tethering before sprint even started charging for it so screw them. If anything they're stealing from the devs who made the original app by charging such a ridiculous amount for something that's available for free.
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XxDjbluexX said:
I've used the wireless tethering before sprint even started charging for it so screw them. If anything they're stealing from the devs who made the original app by charging such a ridiculous amount for something that's available for free.
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That's some jacked up logic, dude.
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The app is in the market and doesn't require root. If they have a problem with Google's market and the apps within, then they should not run the Android OS. Sprint is just trying to sucker people by charging for this free feature.
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rofl your on their network though and you sign a contract stating you won't.
Bottom line is this: There is only so much bandwidth to go around. You can't just pretend that the airwaves are limitless and "corporate greed" is the reason we can't go nuts with data usage. Fact is that if everybody did this, nobody would be able to have decent quality of service. It would be like trying to have a hundred people squeeze through a door at once. It's just a matter of physics, it can't be done.
Right now when it comes to wireless tethering, sprint is simply looking the other way. There are many things that they could be doing to stop it, and they are aware of these things (verizon and at&t implement many countermeasures) but they don't use any of them. Why exactly this is, I don't really know, but I'd wager to guess that they want to appeal to users like us who don't want to go to other carriers just because of the little things like this.
However they can't go to the opposite extreme and outright allow it, simply because if they did this, people WOULD go nuts with their data usage, and sprint couldn't afford that. So this is their middle ground: saying don't do it, but looking the other way when you do, and if you go overboard, they tell you to go with another provider.
And personally, I wouldn't have it any other way, and I give props to sprint for doing that.
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PDAnet isn't free, you have to buy the app or at least the full version. And Sprint can't ban the app because it can be used on many platforms and many devices so how do you think Sprint can ban it from the Android Market, Sprint doesn't own the Market, Google does.
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Sprint can ask Google to hide the app from sprint users, much in the same way that at&t and verizon asked google to hide the wifi tethering apps from their respective users, and google did exactly that.
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Bottom line is this: There is only so much bandwidth to go around. You can't just pretend that the airwaves are limitless and "corporate greed" is the reason we can't go nuts with data usage. Fact is that if everybody did this, nobody would be able to have decent quality of service. It would be like trying to have a hundred people squeeze through a door at once. It's just a matter of physics, it can't be done.
Right now when it comes to wireless tethering, sprint is simply looking the other way. There are many things that they could be doing to stop it, and they are aware of these things (verizon and at&t implement many countermeasures) but they don't use any of them. Why exactly this is, I don't really know, but I'd wager to guess that they want to appeal to users like us who don't want to go to other carriers just because of the little things like this.
However they can't go to the opposite extreme and outright allow it, simply because if they did this, people WOULD go nuts with their data usage, and sprint couldn't afford that. So this is their middle ground: saying don't do it, but looking the other way when you do, and if you go overboard, they tell you to go with another provider.
And personally, I wouldn't have it any other way, and I give props to sprint for doing that.
Sprint can ask Google to hide the app from sprint users, much in the same way that at&t and verizon asked google to hide the wifi tethering apps from their respective users, and google did exactly that.
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Well said...
What about how the nexus s 4G (which I had for a couple weeks) that has wired and wireless tether built into the stock android, without sprint blocking it? Hoe come that is exempt from the t&c?
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if you need justification to pay 30 bucks, good luck. You will never get it, atleast not from sprint. Everyone does it, atleast sprint gives you unlimited for 30 bucks.
it is what it is and it has been for a while now. If you want to legally use the phone as a hotspot you have to shell out 30 bucks. Yes its a *****, so is life.
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What about how the nexus s 4G (which I had for a couple weeks) that has wired and wireless tether built into the stock android, without sprint blocking it? Hoe come that is exempt from the t&c?
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Not sure but seeing as its built in to the phone, since Google doesn't let them touch the software, you can use it on the NS.
Hi guys just wanted to let you know I found a way to get a working free mobile hotspot from Big Red using the same method as the Bionic's (thanx to who ever found this). Anyway I made a quick video for the the Razr. As for those wondering about Big Red watching you, I used 43 gb last month and 32 gb so far this month Also here's an article from XDA about throttling legalities on 4g networks. Can't say for sure, I'm no lawyer but it looks legit.
Worked perfectly. Thanks!
Your account can be flagged, and Verizon can either sue you for illegally using (read: stealing) their services, throttle you permanently, or just be nice and just tack on the tethering price to your monthly bill without telling you.
This is illegal, don't do it.
looks like you copied zedomax post man...
i am 1addictsad78 and i just found a way to resolve to endless loop by changing the MTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdTOOfogAaU
So, we should stay away from this procedure???
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Your account can be flagged, and Verizon can either sue you for illegally using (read: stealing) their services, throttle you permanently, or just be nice and just tack on the tethering price to your monthly bill without telling you.
This is illegal, don't do it.
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This is NOT illegal, in my mind, if you have payed for a certain amount of data. You are not stealing their services because hot spotting is NOT their service. It is a a feature built into your phone that they blocked so they could charge you extra. Period. Even if this was illegal, you can always root and install a tethering app. At that point, I'd like to see them explain why this is still a service provided by then.
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Your account can be flagged, and Verizon can either sue you for illegally using (read: stealing) their services, throttle you permanently, or just be nice and just tack on the tethering price to your monthly bill without telling you.
This is illegal, don't do it.
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You are probably correct. I changed the setting back after testing because I don't need any legal issues (or an increase in my bill), but for people who don't care or think they won't get caught, the procedure at least appears sound...
i have a massive data when i started using the thunderbolt with open garden tether. I'm a netflix guy and use as a modem to my apartment for over 6months and never get flagged. now i have the droid razr doing this Verizon hotspot too.
grandfathered rules!
It's not a matter of legality. It's not illegal.
It's a matter of ethics. Are you willing to break the Terms of Service that you signed agreement with when you bought the service? And are you willing to deal with Verizon's reaction when they find out? If they add a tether charge to your account, you earned it.
@ x2breakoffate, you have paid for unlimited phone data. You have not paid for ANY tether data. They sold it to you with the data blocked. If you didn't like that you should not have bought a phone that was crippled.
What you offered is a lame attempt to make yourself feel better, not a justification.
If any of you would read the full post and the associated links, you would know about the Block C provision. I've used it for a couple months on the Bionic and had no problems.
@ ad78.....I'm sorry it wasn't clearly stated that this was not my own work and I copied it from the Bionic
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Hi guys just wanted to let you know I found a way to get a working free mobile hotspot from Big Red using the same method as the Bionic's (thanx to who ever found this).
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@ everyone else: Stated I am no lawyer but I can say for those like me on the UNLIMITED DATA PLAN, yes I think it's BS that they lock down the devices and limit tethering to a usb. As posted earlier http://goo.gl/cL3L1 it is illegal under Block C to limit or throttle 4g devices.
You can throttle Block C devices for reasonable network management reasons (you using a 100 GB of data per month and therefore causing data congestion is one of those reasons).
And yes, it is illegal to use a paid service without paying for it.
I could tap into DirectTV's cable service and use it for free somehow, or get channels that I'm not paying for...is it simply a moral dilemma because they lock it down "simply because they want to charge me money" for them?
Terms of use aren't just a wall of text there because they want to put it there, it's a legally binding document that you AGREED to (which is the equivalent of signing). They CAN sue you for "pirating" their officially branded tethering service on their network. That's what you're doing. You're disabling the check in THEIR software to make sure you have the tethering plan, and you're using THEIR officially branded service, through THEM, without paying THEM. That is illegal.
The only difference between this and pirating a version of Microsoft Office and disabling the serial check is the fact that it's more easily monitored since all of the stolen data you're sending is going through their servers, possibly with something attached that tells Verizon that you're tethering.
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you have paid for unlimited phone data. You have not paid for ANY tether data.
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There is no difference to phone data and tether data.
It's all just information sent by the TCP-IP protocol.
It is like buying a book, but you are only allowed to read it outside because you have not payed for the ability to read it by artificial light.
Its still stealing bottom line. If you can afford a smartphone you should be able to afford internet at home or just pay extra for a tethering plan.
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But in order for this to not count towards you're data is if you're on the grandfather plan and rooted right? Cuz if ur on a 4gb plan then you're data would count correct?
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With a net income of over 3 billion, I don't think it hurts them that much from the very few root user users and even fewer heavy 4g users.
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But in order for this to not count towards you're data is if you're on the grandfather plan and rooted right? Cuz if ur on a 4gb plan then you're data would count correct?
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Not sure what you mean. Basically I was grandfathered in on 3g unlimited so I fell into the unlimited 4g plan. Yes you have to be rooted to use this.
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Not sure what you mean. Basically I was grandfathered in on 3g unlimited so I fell into the unlimited 4g plan. Yes you have to be rooted to use this.
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Yea I meant the unlimited data plan. That's the only way you can use the tether hack because if your not on the unlimited data then if you use this hack you're data will count right?
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or you could just download the latest android wifi tether app from google. it works perfectly.
pajn said:
There is no difference to phone data and tether data.
It's all just information sent by the TCP-IP protocol.
It is like buying a book, but you are only allowed to read it outside because you have not payed for the ability to read it by artificial light.
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No, it's like buying basic cable and expecting to get all of the channels. It's all just data sent by the cable line after all!!!
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With a net income of over 3 billion, I don't think it hurts them that much from the very few root user users and even fewer heavy 4g users.
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Right, let's just all steal food from Walmart, it's a multi-billion dollar retail chain, it won't hurt much.
Honestly, if you're going to tether, at least use a 3rd party app. Using their software to steal free service is like peeing on a cop car and expecting to get away with it.
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No, it's like buying basic cable and expecting to get all of the channels. It's all just data sent by the cable line after all!!!
Right, let's just all steal food from Walmart, it's a multi-billion dollar retail chain, it won't hurt much.
Honestly, if you're going to tether, at least use a 3rd party app. Using their software to steal free service is like peeing on a cop car and expecting to get away with it.
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Ok but if you use a 3rd party app to tether its still using your data allowence right?
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I figured that the WiFi tether root app should work fine with temp root, what I don't know is if Verizon can tell if we use it and thus, bill us for hotspot use? I remember that there was some concern with the Incredible that Verizon had somehow set it up where there could detect this, just wondering if anyone knows for sure if its safe on the Rez?
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I figured that the WiFi tether root app should work fine with temp root, what I don't know is if Verizon can tell if we use it and thus, bill us for hotspot use? I remember that there was some concern with the Incredible that Verizon had somehow set it up where there could detect this, just wondering if anyone knows for sure if its safe on the Rez?
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I have saw plenty of customers coming in to my location being billed or shut off until they remove the program. Why risk it? Right now they are being nice, you are stealing. Pay the $30, get unlimited hotspot, and don't worry about it. Back to the old saying, if you gotta ask, you shouldn't do it.
Been doing it on my Droid incredible for a long time. Doing it right now from my boys nook color at wrestling practice. Never been charged, or shut off. Don't feel like I am stealing, but others will. If they catch me, there is always other carriers. Would be rocking out on my resound overclocked, and undervolted with a nice cm7 theme, but they have that door locked. They r breaking the rules there, so we r even.
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I have saw plenty of customers coming in to my location being billed or shut off until they remove the program. Why risk it? Right now they are being nice, you are stealing. Pay the $30, get unlimited hotspot, and don't worry about it. Back to the old saying, if you gotta ask, you shouldn't do it.
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I fail to see how it's stealing. You pay for your data, so you should be able to use it.
I Don't See At All How It Is Stealing.
The Only Difference Between My Netbook And Cellphone Is Screensize.
Both Are Dual-Core.
Both Are HD Screens, One Is 4.3in And The Other Is 11.6in.
HDMI Out On Both.
Both Use USB Connections.
Both Have Headphones Jack.
Both Have Wi-Fi Antennas.
Netbook Can Use Skype Or Google Voice For Calling If I Wanted To. (Also Could Buy A 3G Wireless Card Instead Of Just Using Wi-Fi)
Both Are Charged By Plugging A Cable In.
Both Have Okay Battery Life.
Both Run Linux OS.
Google put the feature in froyo, and the carriers blocked it to make money. It's not stealing. At all. I know they have a tether guard apk on the thunderbolt. Havnt looked for it yet, and I don't know what it does
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Yeah locking the bootloaders on phones has been questioned legally multiple times. It's like the carriers are trying to control your smartphone experience.
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It's like the carriers are trying to control your smartphone experience.
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For most people that is a good thing. I am sure it helps mobile device security for the general population. If a webpage could execute a root method and then wipe your system partition, that would be terrible for the average user, so it gets nand-locked.
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Yeah locking the bootloaders on phones has been questioned legally multiple times. It's like the carriers are trying to control your smartphone experience.
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It's the "smart" check for the 4g hotspot. Hotspot won't work as long as that apk is disabled or missing.
Are they able to read it on the resound though? That hasn't been answered here. Do they know we are tethering on temp root?
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I froze the TetheringGuard.apk. I haven't even tried to use the WiFi tether app yet.
I don't think they can tell if you are tethering with root unless they are looking really closely.
I'm on the fence about hotspot. I think for occasional use (tablets), I'm ok with not paying for it, but if you are trying to use it as your home internet service, you should pay for it. Wireless broadband is not unlimited.
on my Inc I used it very rarely. I don't have a tablet and my laptop never leaves the house where I have cable WiFi. My data usage on Verizon averages 2-3 GB a month. I haven't tethered since getting the rez the day they came out. I use it on my work laptop once in a blue moon because they are Nazis and block EVERYTHING on their network.
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I fail to see how it's stealing. You pay for your data, so you should be able to use it.
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If someone charges for something, and you find a way around being charged for it and use it free, how is that not stealing? Not worth the debate, all of you that don't see it will not see it. You probably think getting music from p2p is also not stealing, until you get caught and thrown in prison.
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If someone charges for something, and you find a way around being charged for it and use it free, how is that not stealing? Not worth the debate, all of you that don't see it will not see it. You probably think getting music from p2p is also not stealing, until you get caught and thrown in prison.
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I see where you are coming from, but I don't think you quite understand what is going on behind the scenes. It seems like the carriers are trying to see how much they can get away with, and letting them do so is the worst thing for consumers. We aren't getting something for free, we have already paid for it; the carrier is trying to charge you for the same thing twice. It is like buying tickets to a game or concert, then being told you have to pay an extra fee if you want to use your own binoculars. Or buying a nice meal but being given a plastic spork to eat it with, and being charged more if you want to use your own fork and knife.
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I have unlimited data from bring grandfatherrd in. unlimited means unlimited no matter how u look at it. and if they say otherwise then they better change the wording around.
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what if your home cable or DSL broadband said that you could only use desktop computers with a physical connection, but charged you an extra $30 if you wanted to use a laptop over wifi? Its the same thing.. you are already paying for a certain allotment of data... Verizon has no right (in my opinion) to tell you on what devices you can use that data that you've paid for.
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what if your home cable or DSL broadband said that you could only use desktop computers with a physical connection, but charged you an extra $30 if you wanted to use a laptop over wifi? Its the same thing.. you are already paying for a certain allotment of data... Verizon has no right (in my opinion) to tell you on what devices you can use that data that you've paid for.
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I agree and don't agree. Mobile data should be that, for mobile devices. My problem is with those that use it to run their home networks.
I'm curious to see how verizon structures the shared data next year. Unless its unlimited or some ungodly amount (100gb), I'll keep my current plans.
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I agree and don't agree. Mobile data should be that, for mobile devices. My problem is with those that use it to run their home networks.
I'm curious to see how verizon structures the shared data next year. Unless its unlimited or some ungodly amount (100gb), I'll keep my current plans.
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What About The Mobile Data Cards They Wanna Sell For Laptops Or Home Computers?
Agreed
nrfitchett4 said:
I agree and don't agree. Mobile data should be that, for mobile devices. My problem is with those that use it to run their home networks.
I'm curious to see how verizon structures the shared data next year. Unless its unlimited or some ungodly amount (100gb), I'll keep my current plans.
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+1 On mobile data being for mobile devices.
I can see using wireless teether when you have other devices needing internet in a pinch.
On my HTC Incredible, I used wireless teether on very few occassions. Sometime we lost power here alot within the last year, and I turned on teether so the fiance could use her laptop to get work done (she work alot as a social worker).
Other times I have used teether while on the road and she needed to use the laptop on our 2 1/2 hour trips up north.
People that use teether to be their sole internet for all their pc's at home, to the point of dropping their actual broadband provider, I do not agree with.
A guy I work with uses the teether to provide internet now to 4 computersand 2 xbox360s in his house. Yikes.
This is my opinion only, I don't speak for others, and I don't hate. I'm aware when verizon now offers 4g unlimited hotspot, that people will say well it's unlimited and I will do with it what I want. I truly don't believe it is meant to replace Uverse, Comcast, etc, since that is what Verizon Fios is for.
I can only imagine the big stink that would happen if Verizon changed the small print for the 4g Unlimited Hotspot to say "Only to be used to supply internet for other mobile device ie laptops, tablets, etc and it is not meant to replace your actual Broadband Provider."
Hey guys I was wondering, could I tether my ipad to my galaxy s2 (running cm9 nightlies) without paying for a tethering plan? I do have an unlimited data plan but I don't want to pay the extra just to allow tethering and lose unlimited data. Can I do this without AT&T catching wind and taking my unlimited data away?
Go into settings > wireless & networks
Should be under tethering and portable hot spot. Turn it on. Good to go.
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So AT&T won't hit me for tethering if I just use it?...
there's a chance they could. They have some way of detecting tethering to computers. I've been tethering for years with different devices and they haven't said anything to me, however its worth mentioning that I don't abuse my free tethering ability so I probably don't stand out as much.
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Alright cool, I just needed it for an informatics class to do a presentation, the one building its in used to be a hospital that was converted to classrooms recently, and they haven't put wifi repeaters into the rooms yet...
Thanks for the reply.
dreadlord369 said:
Hey guys I was wondering, could I tether my ipad to my galaxy s2 (running cm9 nightlies) without paying for a tethering plan? I do have an unlimited data plan but I don't want to pay the extra just to allow tethering and lose unlimited data. Can I do this without AT&T catching wind and taking my unlimited data away?
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I've actually done it before to my mother's iPad 2. So yes it's possible
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Mobile devices seem to be fine.
Don't use a desktop browser or any mobile browser that uses a desktop UA though - these seem likely to alert the "tether police".
SCREW ATT
You tell those punks that youll use your Data anyway you like(they wont do anything though). Its not like we dont pay for it already, yet they want you to pay twice for the same amount of data? I think not. When the Supreme court made it legal to Jailbreak/Root phones that meant we could do what we want to our phones because they are our property. Think of ATT Tethering ability like a 40$ app that you choose not to use. Instead you found a free one.
Hope that makes sense to the choir.
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You tell those punks that youll use your Data anyway you like(they wont do anything though). Its not like we dont pay for it already, yet they want you to pay twice for the same amount of data? I think not. When the Supreme court made it legal to Jailbreak/Root phones that meant we could do what we want to our phones because they are our property. Think of ATT Tethering ability like a 40$ app that you choose not to use. Instead you found a free one.
Hope that makes sense to the choir.
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Actually it was the Library of Congress that allowed this. And the exemptions to the DMCA have to be renewed every 3 years, and the manufacturer can still void your devices warranty for installing 'unauthorized' software.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/feds-ok-iphone-jailbreaking/
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Does anyone have a work around to get tethering working again. $14.99 is to much to pay for data I'm already paying for. Is at&t next?
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I found a good work around by changing my user agent on my computer browser. Tmobile uses the user agent as a check. Just change it to a different one, it should work. I used Ipad and had no issues.
soccerdad said:
Does anyone have a work around to get tethering working again. $14.99 is to much to pay for data I'm already paying for. Is at&t next?
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Boy have you been living under a rock for the past 6 months? This has been a huge deal for a long time. ITs simple if you want to tether then get a tethering plan. If you think that is unfair then you may want to read your TOS again (if you ever read it at all) it states that the data set for the line in question is only to be used on that device.
Thanks for the reply. Did not work for me.
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Boy have you been living under a rock for the past 6 months? This has been a huge deal for a long time. ITs simple if you want to tether then get a tethering plan. If you think that is unfair then you may want to read your TOS again (if you ever read it at all) it states that the data set for the line in question is only to be used on that device.
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No rock, just been fortunate I guess. They just started blocking me.
If paying $14.99 is fair or unfair or just unreasonably than this would not be such a big deal.
No I didn't read my contract, I already knew about the tethering. Are they going to start charging us to stream over bluetooth next. Your radio is another device.
Got it working. I thought I was changing user agent but I wasn't. I'm using a chromebook and changed user agent with a extension called Chrome UA Spoofer. Changed user agent to Safari. Tethering without gilt again.
They just started blocking me as of yesterday too, Im going to try the Agent switch method, but theoretically , it is possible for them to eventually block all the common ones right?...
I dont really abuse the tether option much at all, I have a 5gb plan and I barely use 400mb monthly. but yesterday I downloaded a 300mb rom and forgot I was tethered, within 50 MB, I get redirected to the pay screen.
Im guessing once I change the agent, I should just lay low and do any heavy usage while tethered.. right? (includes youtube, webcam, music etc) and just stick to surfing and email.