Looking to Flash a ROM for the first time on my Atrix. I want a ROM based off of either ICS or JellyBean (ie, 4.x).
I don't want to test out unstable ROMs. I only have one smartphone, so it needs to be reliable. Are there any 4.x ROMs that are stable enough for daily use? If there isn't, please tell me that.
Requirements:
Reboots no more than 1, maybe 2 times a day
4.x build
all hardware works, except for these things which I don't care about: fingerprint reader, laptop dock
Nice to have: in-car mode.
AtrICS looks nice, (video works, fingerprint reader works) - but lots of posters are saying it reboots on them.
They all have the same problem since they use the same kernel.
- They all have the reboot problems
- Camera has fuzzy lines on the Blur based ROMs (can be easily fixed by turning widescreen mode on/off)
I'm currently on Someone's CM10 and I think that it can be a great daily driver (I don't use my Atrix to call/ SMS anymore though, so I can't really tell) and it doesn't have fingerprint scanner and web top (both of which you don't care).
And as I typed this, my phone rebooted.
Sent from that Atrix.
Even I'm in the same boat. Been on CM7 since ages.. waiting for a stable release before jumping the wagon.
Hopefully, epinter or jokersaxx will adopt the new libs and new stuff to their mods and we will get a new ICS/JB daily driver.
Im using miui 2.10.12 by thebill currently and no reboots. I dont play games dont use lapdock or fingerprint. Only bad thing for me not working buttons backlight
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Your choices are the unstable ones with poor battery life based on the leak with everything working or the ones not based on the leak which are stable with good battery but no camcorder and flakey hw acceleration. Pick your poison.
Hopefully the project to port the Xoom kernel goes somewhere and we have something more solid, but until then if you want something flawless you should stick with gingerbread.
Since your new to custom ROMs, I highly recommend you check out mrom. Its based on cm7/Gingerbread, and the best non-4.x ROM for the atrix. Coming from stock I think you'll find it a noticeable improvement in terms of performance.
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This is good info guys, thanks, MROM looks really interesting. I guess I'll unlock my bootloader now,
Just started this game too. I need a daily driver for my only phone to use for business and personal. I don't use fingerprint or laptop (except as a charging base/alarm clock stand). Although I would love to be able to use the laptop again someday. This my opinion based on limited experience with the following ROMs. This is in no way a knock on any of the fantastic work the Dev's have put in any ROMs, merely my experience.
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Somebody's- great JB ROM but too many random reboots and to short a battery life for a daily driver on my only phone, chrome works because hardware acceleration works. ROM didn't work for me but I really wanted it to because it was sweet!
Cyanogen 7 Stable- Rock solid, great battery life, dependable but not much different than stock except for the ability to play with root access, firewalls etc. I know iti's not 4.x... but as a daily driver it's fantastic work
Epinters - Wow! JB, video chat, battery life in the 8-9 hours with daily use for email, phone, music, text, light internet and gmaps (result may vary), no random reboots... no chrome due to lack of hardware acceleration (i think, but may be wrong here). Overall his was the best for my circumstances. Of course mileage may very depending on your phone, mine is USA, ATT with apparently the right tegra part. I have been running it for 2-3 weeks and keep coming back to it for a daily driver.
AtrICS - too many random reboots but another great JB ROM, really wanted this one to work too
My opinion - Epinter's http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781970 works for me. I am very happy I unlocked/rooted and started playing this game.
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hey, i was just trying to get some feed back on what differences are there in gb that would be a good reason to leave froyo. the reason i ask is because i put a gingerbread rom on my vibrant for about a day and did not see a deference. everything pretty much looks the same. maybe someone can give me a strong argument for switching because at this point i just don't get it.
I was on GB for a couple weeks to try it out but with all of the bugs and non working GPS its just not worth it til there are more stable roms. People will argue that the GB roms are stable but I've had several problems on GB roms, nothing big but little bugs that just get annoying after a while. I would stick with froyo
Dont switch. They just drain your battery and have loads of bugs, like not beeing able to charge when off.(CM7)
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New user interface design with new themes (Black themes save power)
Extra Large Screen Size supported
SIP Communication Supported (SIP Video and Audio Calling, In an operator point of view, this is feature will decrease their voice calling revenue where as user can call each other for lower rates or even free if they have good data connection)
Supports for NFC (High Frequency High Speech Data Transfer in short range)
Support for WebM/VP8 video playback, and AAC audio encoding
New audio effects such as reverb, equalization, headphone virtualization, and bass boost
Improved Copy and Paste functionality
Redesigned Multi Touch Software Keyboard
Audio, graphical, and input enhancements for game developers
New sensors support (i.e gyroscope)
Download manager for long running HTTP downloads
Enhanced support for native code
Improved power management and application control
Support for multiple cameras
there's your list of differences from froyo to GB
I switched because cm7 is just lightyears faster than froyo or anything eelse on our phones ... games that wouldnt work on other roms in n64oid now run smoothly
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It is definitely not worth switching until we get an official leak, although at this point it may be worth facing up to the fact that there will not ever be an official GB rom. The ports are too buggy and unstable to make it worth your time.. you will just uninstall it.
I think it is matter of opinion. Some will highlight the builds being buggy and others on it being faster.
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I think it is matter of opinion. Some will highlight the builds being buggy and others on it being faster.
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+1 to that! ive been running cm7 since nightly #4 and there up past #65 so ive been on it awhile. Havent gone back since and im loving it! I like the Built in theme chooser any day i feel like changing my mood just change theme and built in theme chooser does the rest, 10 sec process. Its way so much faster then Froyo thats like comparing apples to oranges of course its faster it should be if it wasnt google wouldnt be doing a very good job! I could go on with all the cool features and specs but theres no use everyone has there own opinion. Heres the true fact of the matter it says in CM7 op cm7 isnt for the noob rom flasher so it may be buggy on ur phone due a bad flash or not wiping data or wiping dalvik. But with cm7 now having gps its as stable as its ever gonna get. Plus make sure ur reading the instructions carefully!!!
Heres what atinm from cm7 has said about vibrant running cm7 and this is so very true!!
All releases are planned to be free of all bugs. Reality forces us to accept what we can do and our hands are tied on things that we don't have code for, nor documentation for and so no, it will not be free of all bugs/limitations. If the code is stable, if the release is usable as a daily driver for most people, it will get the "stable" designation. We will continue to fix bugs that we can fix.
so its wht it is
Which would be a better rom for the vibrant? My main preferences are battery, gps and stability. Pro and cons would be good for those who have tried both.
gps identical. the Miui fix is the same as the CM7 fix, Stability pretty much the same, again miui for vibrant uses the cm7 framework for compatability with our phone. Battery... prolly CM7 less shinys less toys. Miui is very aethetic, full of shiny's, transitions, etc. but i still use it as a daily driver and won't be switching till i switch phones.
battery:vote for cm7
gps: no choice because samsung does not work well
I just installed CM 7.1 stable, prior to that I had MiUi for a few days.
MiUi deffinately had better GPS. GPS on MiUi for me worked everytime upon reboot. CM7 the GPS isn't working for me. I'm still tinkering with it.
MiUi also felt faster, smoother and more refined around the edges.
Then again it's late and I'm tired, maybe I'll wake up loving CM tomorrow morning.
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I just installed CM 7.1 stable, prior to that I had MiUi for a few days.
MiUi deffinately had better GPS. GPS on MiUi for me worked everytime upon reboot. CM7 the GPS isn't working for me. I'm still tinkering with it.
MiUi also felt faster, smoother and more refined around the edges.
Then again it's late and I'm tired, maybe I'll wake up loving CM tomorrow morning.
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but battery miui so bad
so it seems like cm's battery is better? that would be a huge plus for me
really depends on what people consider "bad" everyone has there own perspective on battery life. for me working 10 hour shifts 6 days a week. and heavy internet/text usage. i find Miui quite adaquate as a daily driver. maybe talk heavy users drain battery faster? seems odd considering screen is off during calls and screen tends to consume more power then any other piece of hardware in our phones. My opinion is try both. give each a few days to calibrate battery and optimize itself and judge from there. unless your planning on buying a new phone this week you will have time to test each one in length and get a good judge of the pros and cons of each using your personal device. Not all Vibrants are created equal.
As MIUI is built from CM7, they perform virtually the same. CM7 is more for those who like barebones builds which are very true to stock Android, MIUI is more for those who want more things built in and like flashy eye candy... and maybe like iOS's general design...
Not to say MIUI is bad. My girlfriend used it until builds went wacko for her device and her uncle still uses it on his. I use it occasionally too... just right now I prefer CM7. It's all about personal preference.
I can imagine this may have been asked before, yet I can't find any definitive answers, to what are the benefits to running ICS over Gingerbread at this time?
I dont really think there is much right at this moment, due to the ICS being out is so buggy, but i read alot of positive about CM9 which is running ICS - though one major drawback for me is the USB mount doesn't work.
But after playing around with my dads Galaxy Nexus, the diffrence aint gamebreaking. Surely its optimised in other ways, better interface imo - but again, Gingerbread is really great, and i will surely stick to this untill ROM chefs starts to cook roms on stable ICS releases.
Eventually check out my thread where some people are talking about ICS and the benefits from it compared to Gingerbread
right, ics is still buggy. but check out some of the very good custom ics roms in the development forum. some of them now are more stable than they previously do. i mean, stable enough for daily use.
apparently ICS has a lot of benefit over GB:
some of the good points:
- smoother ui animation (you'll feel more smoother than GB, also there are more transition animation added)
- improved google apps (gmail, calendar, maps, phone, sms have been redesigned and feels better than current version in GB)
- voice dictation (different from the one in GB, instead of "press-speak-press-speak", now you can keep speaking and the word will come out as you speak)
- face unlock (no need to introduce)
- options to encrypt the phone memory (forget if GB has it)
- some new widgets (some of the custom roms use AOSP apps instead of the samsung one, e.g. the calendar widget looks much better now)
- camera app seems to open faster
some problems:
- usb mass storage not working (may get fixed in the future, but now you can use MTP instead, if you are using windows or mac. linux users can have some problem with that)
- some apps don't work with ICS (most apps work, for the rest we need to wait for update to support ics)
- battery drain issue (there have been several report for battery drain on "Android OS" process, google seems to fix it in 4.0.4, so we just need to wait. currently mine can last over 10h with moderate use)
- remember it's still in alpha/beta stage, so backup your data!
if you are really interested, make a full backup using CWM and try to flash some of the roms. you can always go back to ginger bread by recovering the backup. hope this helps
I tried one of the cyanogenmod alpha builds from codeworkx and i had the impression that the menu is cleanear and more tidied up all in all. dont know if thats an ics or a cyanogenmod thing though.
my wireless lan seemed to work better, too
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I can imagine this may have been asked before, yet I can't find any definitive answers, to what are the benefits to running ICS over Gingerbread at this time?
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After being on ICS Remix 8.6 by Westcrip, I "feel" the browsing, the sliding and most of the navigation on the phone is happening a lot faster.
Before February I felt like my old Gingerbread-thingy by Eskimo i belive... was the nuts. Now its like playing in a other league.
My SG2 feels generally Smoooottthheeeer
My 3 cents
The taste is better
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The taste is better
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More for hot weather, really.
How does DRH compare to our best Froyo Roms? I'm mainly concerned with stability and fluidity (ie, top-end gaming or video speed isn't as important as moving within and into-and-out-of apps). With the second core up and running in ICS, is DRH now our most consistent daily driver if we don't need the camera or the mic?
I've been running Clemsyn's Beastly combo for a while now, and it's incredible, but it lags on the two programs I use the most: Pulse and Dolphin, and for whatever reason its wifi connection is a little wonky for me. I've been following the DRH progress pretty closely, and my trigger finger is getting really itchy wanting to flash it. However, I'm about to travel a lot this summer and will need my GTab for work (word processing mainly), so I need it to be stable and reliable while I'm away from my desktop and can't monkey around with it if I need to.
So, community, what say you? Should I make the jump now, should I hold off until they roll out the 3.x kernel, or should I stick with Beastly?
(All of this, by the way, is asked in complete humility, knowing that I'm playing around with incredible work by incredible--and incredibly generous--people!!)
I have not used the Froyo ROMs, having installed Flashback and then DRH.
I like DRH, it is fast, I still get kernel panics when the tablet hangs and/or reboots. It surfs *very* well, esp with the different launchers.
I have noticed not all games work with ICS. I love Madden NFL but it won't run.
Froyo is still the smoother experience imo, however the ICS kernel is catching up very quickly. For me its definetly good enough for a daily driver, only minor anounces to deal with at this point. Fosser2 has even hinted that he may have a working camera and mic soon. I think in another month or two ICS will easily hold its own against the Froyo roms. Give it six months and we wont even be talking about anything but DRH's ICS kernel for the gtab.
I found the ICS to be maddeningly slow, switched back to C and C and it is a pleasure again.
I load a lot of apps, and when I want to use them I do not expect slow loading and constant warnings flashing on the screen. I hope ICS gets there but IMO not there now.
What is overall the most stable rom that actually has up to date android features? I was reading the CM10 issues log and stuff like "can't receive calls when bluetooth is on" is just an instant turnoff. I know every custom ROM is going to have issues, but what is overall the best balance of modern and stable for the Droid X2?
I'd like at least 4.1, but I know the world isn't perfect.
Well since we are sadly on a locked bootloader it makes it difficult for us; The most stable roms are Gingerbread. CM7 is pretty good and is running android 2.3.6 i believe. Eclipse is pretty good and smooth but cm7 has overall more features. CM10 would probably more stable than cm9 but cm10 sadly gets some force closes(i never experienced this when i was using it )
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What is overall the most stable rom that actually has up to date android features? I was reading the CM10 issues log and stuff like "can't receive calls when bluetooth is on" is just an instant turnoff. I know every custom ROM is going to have issues, but what is overall the best balance of modern and stable for the Droid X2?
I'd like at least 4.1, but I know the world isn't perfect.
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4.1 is the furthest we have gotten. cm10 is 4.1 , cm9 is 4.0 . cm10 is WAY more stable than any ICS build we have. i use it as a daily, and if you dont use many apps, and can stand a bit less battery life, it is totally worth it.
it has curbed my want/need for a new phone.....or atleast until november!
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What is overall the most stable rom that actually has up to date android features? I was reading the CM10 issues log and stuff like "can't receive calls when bluetooth is on" is just an instant turnoff. I know every custom ROM is going to have issues, but what is overall the best balance of modern and stable for the Droid X2?
I'd like at least 4.1, but I know the world isn't perfect.
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I started using MIUI last night is sorta like iOS and and it uses ICS framework havent had a fc or random reboot yet no missed calls to my knowledge
I used the CM10a3 port and my gmail app was WICKED unstable, a flick scroll would not FC it but it would just close. I LOVED google now but due to compatibility*? issues i could not update it with anything google released. I currently run eclipse, although older has been the most stable, battery efficient, and usable rom on my DX2.
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You know, with all the apps, launchers, keyboards, themes, etc., you can probably be pretty happy with a stable gingerbread ROM and make it look and feel like ICS or JB.
I'd run cm7 with holo launcher for that jb feel
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4.1 is the furthest we have gotten. cm10 is 4.1 , cm9 is 4.0 . cm10 is WAY more stable than any ICS build we have. i use it as a daily, and if you dont use many apps, and can stand a bit less battery life, it is totally worth it.
it has curbed my want/need for a new phone.....or atleast until november!
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What version of CM10 are you using? I'm debating if it is worth trying A3
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What version of CM10 are you using? I'm debating if it is worth trying A3
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at this point, i have been using cm9 for a few months due to the phone call issue present in cm10. whenever the screen turns off due to the proximity sensor ( holding it to your face) the call is lost and the phone freaks out. this is a phone. so that would not work for me. cm9 has better battery life, and a few more apps work with it. from what it seems, DZK has abandoned us. our only how on a better JB is g2yupie working out his 4.2, and it not having the same phone call issue. i say try out cm9. unless you dont make many calls. also, it doesnt do the proximity thing if you are plugged in. but any other time, under any other circumstances , it does. there is no work around.