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Every time I plug my phone in via USB or place on an inductive charger, the screen turns on. I never want this to happen. Is there any setting or hack to disable? I blame OCD for not wanting to wait for the screen timeout. I tried using Tasker to set the display timeout to the minimum value of 7s only when on any power source, but it still timed out at the system setting. I have a rooted Droid 4 with the stock ROM, but this applies to any Android phone.
This doesn't seem unreasonable. If you set your phone down to charge, doesn't that mean you're done using it for now? This is difficult to search for, because the same search terms lead me to the "stay awake while charging" threads.
therussman2002 said:
Every time I plug my phone in via USB or place on an inductive charger, the screen turns on. I never want this to happen. Is there any setting or hack to disable? I blame OCD for not wanting to wait for the screen timeout. I tried using Tasker to set the display timeout to the minimum value of 7s only when on any power source, but it still timed out at the system setting. I have a rooted Droid 4 with the stock ROM, but this applies to any Android phone.
This doesn't seem unreasonable. If you set your phone down to charge, doesn't that mean you're done using it for now? This is difficult to search for, because the same search terms lead me to the "stay awake while charging" threads.
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I'd like to know if there's a solution to this too. I find now that the only time I ever end up pocket dialing is when I take my phone off my charger, THINK i've pressed the power button to go back to sleep but didn't and thus pocket hilarity ensues
I know what u mean but there is defnetly a function where it may be disabled
ive seen it i may guarantee this
the bad thing is i forgot where...
i searched through my stock rom and found nothing so i guess ive seen this in a cyanogenmod rom :/
have a try
Its funny, because I'm trying to do the opposite. I installed my android tablet [novo 7 elf] into my car, and I used to be on a ROM whereby whenever I turn the engine on it would charge the tablet and therefore the screen would turn on. However now I've got a jellybean port this functionality does not work because of the sleep timer which has a max of 30 mins.
Any ideas on how to disable this functionality?
therussman2002 said:
Every time I plug my phone in via USB or place on an inductive charger, the screen turns on. I never want this to happen. Is there any setting or hack to disable? I blame OCD for not wanting to wait for the screen timeout. I tried using Tasker to set the display timeout to the minimum value of 7s only when on any power source, but it still timed out at the system setting. I have a rooted Droid 4 with the stock ROM, but this applies to any Android phone.
This doesn't seem unreasonable. If you set your phone down to charge, doesn't that mean you're done using it for now? This is difficult to search for, because the same search terms lead me to the "stay awake while charging" threads.
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If you're screen always stays on while charging, then try this:
- goto SETTINGS- Developer options - uncheck "stay awake while charging"
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
Jokesy said:
If you're screen always stays on while charging, then try this:
- goto SETTINGS- Developer options - uncheck "stay awake while charging"
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
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That's not what he's looking for.
The problem is when the screen turns on when you plug it in.
wlmeng11 said:
That's not what he's looking for.
The problem is when the screen turns on when you plug it in.
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Indeed.
Am looking for the same thing. really hate the fact that when it goes in the charger I continuously have to turn off the device.... not cool.
Hopefully someone comes with a solution.
only thing for now is use Locale and a plugin screen off (.99 cents) which will probably turn off the screen if you plug it in. haven't tried it though.
Maybe the "charging now" notification is what wakes the phone up when it begins charging, and maybe that notification can be removed somehow, but I know nothing of how those are set up in the background.
therussman2002 said:
I tried using Tasker to set the display timeout to the minimum value of 7s only when on any power source, but it still timed out at the system setting.
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FYI, I tried this again since upgrading to ICS on my Droid 4, and it totally works. I just set up a Tasker profile: When Power=AC or USB, Display Timeout = 7s. It shuts off in 7s when on my inductive charging pad, and the system setting of 1 minute when off the pad.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.bitsimple.android.solarscreenoff
Sadly, it's two dollars, but this seems to be what you're looking for.
Option 1:
Install Xposed or other, I don't remember clearly...
Option 2:
With Tasker
-Power: Any AC
-System Lock
why it isn't possible to disable it without xposed?
know this is an old thread but just curious if there is a way to not have the display turn on when it reaches 100% while charging?
evildog1 said:
why it isn't possible to disable it without xposed?
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Old thread again but in Nougat, it's Settings/Display/Wake on plug, Disable.
Well now this thread is even older :*)
There is a app named "All My..." it contains no wake on charge. It should be a former xposed app that work on most phones so feel free to try.
Hey download.snoozy charger from play store
xpvuol said:
Option 1:
Install Xposed or other, I don't remember clearly...
Option 2:
With Tasker
-Power: Any AC
-System Lock
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Option 2 worked for me on current up to date Samsung Note 9. Thank you so much. Tasker is great, I can't wait to see how many other issues I can use to resolve.
thinglowping said:
Option 2 worked for me on current up to date Samsung Note 9. Thank you so much. Tasker is great, I can't wait to see how many other issues I can use to resolve.
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Nothing is great! This app is Bullxxit.
Option 2:
With Tasker
-Power: Any AC
-System Lock
LOL This settings doesnt exist in the app
2021! Still looking for this.
2022 and it's ongoing. Who would want the screen to turn on when plugged in. On an LG phone you even get an annoying buzz which cannot be disabled even if in silent mode.
i am about to install BATTERY BOOSTER on my razr maxx.....i dont think my battery is as strong as they say, yes it last longer than most but i dont think its as strong as people make it out to be....any suggestions on this app ??
Haven't heard anything about this app. Juice Defender is usually the one that I hear the most about.
All they can do is turn off different things at different times... like the 3G/3G data. Juice Defender does what it claims, but at a cost. Turning on the screen to use the browser, there's a long pause before the data "wakes up". I deleted the app. I get 2 days of varied use from my Maxx and that's with the screen at full brightness, 4G on, Bluetooth on, and pretty much indiscriminate use of everything wasteful I can find.
I ran it for a while back on my Samsung Galaxy PLAYER 4.0, it was nice to have easy settting to trigger turning wifi, bluetooth and Airplane Mode on and off with locking and unlocking, but on that device I realized it was a complete waste for me because I could leave airplane mode on all the time on it and I only toggle wifi on if I need to use it right then, so really for the razr's its pretty pointless as most of what it does can be done with SMART ACTIONS, but it would give you a battery percentage and battery temp in your notifications if you like that sort of stuff.
If you want to max your battery and push notifications aren't that important to you use these settings in smart actions:
by default I have GPS off completely, on the rare occasion I need it I will turn it on manually.
I use one primary Smart Action and that is a reprogrammed "Battery Extender" with
TRIGGERS:
Screen Off
Charging (not charging)
ACTIONS:
Background Sync (Disable)
Cellular Data (Disable)
basically with these settings when the screen is off its equivalent to a "dumb phone", you can recieve calls and texts but no "push" notifications, this increased the time between charges by atleast 20% for me.
Also as I say in all these threads not forget to regularly (atleast every 2 weeks) power cycle (shutdown then reboot) your phone, I went like the first month of owning without ever shutting it off and when I got in the habit of doing this I noticed atleast a 10% increase in time between charge compared to never shutting off.
Screenshots of my last battery cycle below.
daniel644 said:
I ran it for a while back on my Samsung Galaxy PLAYER 4.0, it was nice to have easy settting to trigger turning wifi, bluetooth and Airplane Mode on and off with locking and unlocking, but on that device I realized it was a complete waste for me because I could leave airplane mode on all the time on it and I only toggle wifi on if I need to use it right then, so really for the razr's its pretty pointless as most of what it does can be done with SMART ACTIONS, but it would give you a battery percentage and battery temp in your notifications if you like that sort of stuff.
If you want to max your battery and push notifications aren't that important to you use these settings in smart actions:
by default I have GPS off completely, on the rare occasion I need it I will turn it on manually.
I use one primary Smart Action and that is a reprogrammed "Battery Extender" with
TRIGGERS:
Screen Off
Charging (not charging)
ACTIONS:
Background Sync (Disable)
Cellular Data (Disable)
basically with these settings when the screen is off its equivalent to a "dumb phone", you can recieve calls and texts but no "push" notifications, this increased the time between charges by atleast 20% for me.
Also as I say in all these threads not forget to regularly (atleast every 2 weeks) power cycle (shutdown then reboot) your phone, I went like the first month of owning without ever shutting it off and when I got in the habit of doing this I noticed atleast a 10% increase in time between charge compared to never shutting off.
Screenshots of my last battery cycle below.
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What your screen shot shows is that you basically don't use your phone. I wouldn't be able to even get close to 10% screen time if I tried. Unless I just let the phone sleep all day.
can any of you guide me through these smart actions....because even after the help videos and all, i still dont really understand how the triggers and actions work....i dont think im getting nearly the battery time i should out of this phone.....i have to put it on the charger at least 2 or three times out the day for a little while and by 10-11 oclock its still down to about 30-40 percent....and im hearing people getting almost 2 days on a full battery...not me!! so please help
WizeGuyDezignz said:
What your screen shot shows is that you basically don't use your phone. I wouldn't be able to even get close to 10% screen time if I tried. Unless I just let the phone sleep all day.
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I never made any claim to be a heavy user, when at work, home and where I go for my lunch break I use my Laptop, as I don't care to stare at a small screen if I don't need to, my phone is for like when i'm at walmart or somewhere and I need to look something up real quick.
But, for the record the smart action settings I listed will drop your overnight battery drain to like 1% every 3 hours or so which is really a huge boost to those that don't live starring at there phone day in / day out, nothing can help those people but rehab and counseling for there addiction issues, LOL (that was a joke don't get pissed off)
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blueizee said:
can any of you guide me through these smart actions....because even after the help videos and all, i still dont really understand how the triggers and actions work....i dont think im getting nearly the battery time i should out of this phone.....i have to put it on the charger at least 2 or three times out the day for a little while and by 10-11 oclock its still down to about 30-40 percent....and im hearing people getting almost 2 days on a full battery...not me!! so please help
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OK, as simple as I can make this
1. open Smart Actions app
2. click View samples in lower right hand corner
3. click Battery Extender
4. press and hold on trigger labeled Motion Detector, when menu pops up choose Delete
5. Look for + sign just to right of the word Actions (in the middle of the screen), tap the + sign
6. Scroll to very bottom of list and tap Cellular Data, menu will pop up with 2 choices (enable, disable) tap disable
7. (Optional) press and hold GPS under actions, and when menu comes up hit delete
8. Tap Add Rule on bottom left hand side of screen.
your done and set with my settings, AGAIN with these settings your phone WILL NOT RECIEVE new email or other data related notifications while the screen is off, but it will reduce power drain to aproxx 1% every 3 hours while the screen is off (barring other apps running in the background I can't account for), your could also ADD a time trigger if you only wanted it to do it at night so the junk emails notifications don't wake you up.
While driving in the car, I'd like the display to always stay on without the need to push any buttons.
Is there some toggle button app that can be used to lock display on?
It does not look like driving mode prevents display from turning off and the biggest screen timeout that one can configure is 10 minutes.
igory_1999 said:
While driving in the car, I'd like the display to always stay on without the need to push any buttons.
Is there some toggle button app that can be used to lock display on?
It does not look like driving mode prevents display from turning off and the biggest screen timeout that one can configure is 10 minutes.
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You could do this with an app like Llama, just create two actions - one sets screen timeout to max (I think it's like 4,000 something minutes on my phone), the other sets timeout to your normal setting (I use 30 seconds). You could then create Llama shortcuts on your home screen to access those two commands, or launch them from the program directly if home screen space is at a premium.
I do something similar but configure the two settings to automatically apply when I plug (max timeout) or unplug (normal timeout) my phone. If I put my phone in the mount in my car, I end up plugging it in so it does the trick for me automatically.
Let me know if you need more help and I can write up the actual events and settings I use in Llama if you need.
grussinko said:
You could do this with an app like Llama, just create two actions - one sets screen timeout to max (I think it's like 4,000 something minutes on my phone), the other sets timeout to your normal setting (I use 30 seconds). You could then create Llama shortcuts on your home screen to access those two commands, or launch them from the program directly if home screen space is at a premium.
I do something similar but configure the two settings to automatically apply when I plug (max timeout) or unplug (normal timeout) my phone. If I put my phone in the mount in my car, I end up plugging it in so it does the trick for me automatically.
Let me know if you need more help and I can write up the actual events and settings I use in Llama if you need.
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Cool! I did not know that Llama can do so much. At first glance, I thought that it can only control sound.
On Llama website I do not see any description how to write your own Llama scripts. I guess, people learn by exporting/importing profiles generated using GUI?
igory_1999 said:
Cool! I did not know that Llama can do so much. At first glance, I thought that it can only control sound.
On Llama website I do not see any description how to write your own Llama scripts. I guess, people learn by exporting/importing profiles generated using GUI?
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Any settings I use I've created through the GUI. I only use a portion of what it's capable of, but a few of the events I have set up:
Turn on wifi when it detects I'm at home, work, parents' house, sister's house, etc. Turn off wifi when I leave any of those areas.
The screen timeout settings I noted previously. Also have it turn up brightness when plugged in. I have additional conditions set so that it doesn't max the brightness automatically during certain times, basically so that if I plug it in after dark in the car or in bed it won't blind me.
Automatically set a quiet profile at night and a vibrate profile when I'm at work.
Have it turn on Wifi hotspot when I'm at a particular hotel I travel to for work where there's no free wifi.
To create the automatic brighness event, create a new event where the condition "charging or unplugged" is set to one of the "charging" options and the action "screen timeout" is set to "never", then create a second event where the condition is "on battery" and the action is "set timeout to xx seconds". You can add additional conditions on time, location, etc., the best thing to do is just sift through the various conditions. Most are self-explanatory but they have a little help icon next to each that gives more info as well.
grussinko said:
Any settings I use I've created through the GUI. I only use a portion of what it's capable of, but a few of the events I have set up:
Turn on wifi when it detects I'm at home, work, parents' house, sister's house, etc. Turn off wifi when I leave any of those areas.
The screen timeout settings I noted previously. Also have it turn up brightness when plugged in. I have additional conditions set so that it doesn't max the brightness automatically during certain times, basically so that if I plug it in after dark in the car or in bed it won't blind me.
Automatically set a quiet profile at night and a vibrate profile when I'm at work.
Have it turn on Wifi hotspot when I'm at a particular hotel I travel to for work where there's no free wifi.
To create the automatic brighness event, create a new event where the condition "charging or unplugged" is set to one of the "charging" options and the action "screen timeout" is set to "never", then create a second event where the condition is "on battery" and the action is "set timeout to xx seconds". You can add additional conditions on time, location, etc., the best thing to do is just sift through the various conditions. Most are self-explanatory but they have a little help icon next to each that gives more info as well.
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Seems to be working. I guess, this is a good way to deal with my second problem as well: kill annoying poweramp when bluetooth connects to my car. I tried first to do it without delay but it did not work. Perhaps, introducing 10-15 second delay might help.
As many of you may know, for newer version of TS (at least for 4th List, May version devices), it's NOT possible to flick your wrist to show watch face since the Accelerator is DISABLED whenever screen is OFF!!!
What an oversight! A smart watch needs you to push a button to see time? What if when you are driving or have both hand full and cannot spare even a finger!?
(My Pebble, on the contrast, works great here!)
I tried to force the screen always on with watch face, it's great, except it kills my battery in around 6 hrs (airplane mode!) Not acceptable!
Thus, Here comes "Tasface". With this, you could achieve:
1. Let TS shows you time WHENEVER you LOOK at the watch! (well, actually when the watch is face up) or when you flick your wrist (You can modify this!)
2. Reduce using your button (if you have an Shortcut supported launcher like Smart Launcher 2)
DISCLAIMER: I will not be responsible if Tasface broke/brick your TS in anyway! Since Tasface is only a set of Tasker profiles/Tasks you can read everything before decide go or not! Tasface DO mess around with system files!
Pre-requests:
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1. Your TS must be ROOTED!
2. You need to know Tasker basics! (It's not THAT difficult to use Tasker...)
3. Tasker (Obviously)
4. Watchface by Kurt Huwig (I didn't test other watchface app. May not work with stock lock watchface) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.huwig.watchfaces
5. Secure Settings (Required) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.intangibleobject.securesettings.plugin
6. Smart Launcher 2 (Optional, any Launchers supports Shortcut will work. With this you can activate Watch face without using button!) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ginlemon.flowerfree
Set-up
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1. Have Tasker (required), Watchface (required), Secure Setting (don't forget to install system helper) and Smart Launcher 2 (Optional) installed. DO NOT IMPORT "Tasface" yet!
2. Disable your stock lock watchface: Go to Setting/Personal & Account/Security/Screen lock/None (<-- This IS IMPORTANT)
3. Launch Watchface by Kurt Huwig, than double tap on any watchface to enter setup
a. check "Keep screen on"
b. Select desired watchface from "Lockscreen face"
c. Recommended to disable all other options
4. Check if the Watchface work or not by turn off than turn on your TS by press the upper physical button. You should see the Watchface you selected shows up when screen on. Swipe to return to your launcher and launch Tasker.
5. Unrar and import Tasface into Tasker
6. Close Tasker
7. Turn off --> Turn on your TS with the upper button
8. Profit!
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1. When watchface is displayed:
a. Touch screen is DISABLED to avoid accidental touch.
b. Screen will be OFF after 8 seconds (you can setup your prefer time)
c. Touch screen lock is achieved by putting a transparent Tasker Scene element on top of the Watchface. A small "X" on bottom right screen is used to reactivate the touch screen. You can also push the lower right button (back) to reactive your touch screen.
2. To show watchface (after automatic screen off as Step 1)
a. Just face the watchface up. The watchface should appear for another 8 seconds
b. There maybe a 1~2 second delay. This is due to Tasker not detecting the Watchface up event. I cannot do anything about this....
c. You could change the watchface up to anything else, like "Sensor shake/Backware-Forward"
3. If you have "Smart Launcher 2" or any other launcher supports Shortcut, you can set a icon to task "Lock". With this TS will activate watchface WITHOUT touch physical button. (I heard horrible stories about broken button so want to avoid use them as much as possible!) It's normal the screen will off for 2 second than back on with watchface for 8 seconds!
4. You must wait for automatic screen off or use the "Lock" shortcut to turn off the screen! Tasface will NOT work if you turn off TS by pressing the upper right physical button. This DISABLE the accelerator as mentioned above. To reactive Tasface, just turn on TS by pressing the upper right physical button to show the watchface than wait for automatic screen off.
I wrote this primarily for myself so a there are a lot of bugs. You are free to modify it and make it better. Just let me know if you have any questions and need help or improvement here!
Thanks button is just a click away if I helped you!
Update the attached file to resolve some bugs and improve responseness
Technical stuff -- What is done here?
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It's a bit technical here .... No need to read if you don't care how it works!
Since TS turns off the accelerator whenever screen off, so it's not possible to activate the screen once it's off by external conditions. (You can still set a timer to wake the screen, but it's meaningless)
Thus we need to disable the power hungry backlight while keep the screen on!
I found out that it's possible to control the backlight by doing
Code:
echo 0 > /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness
Thus, I set up a Task profile which fires whenever Watchface is activated and TS is face up, to activate the backlight then turn off the backlight again after 8 seconds, but KEEP the TS screen wake! (Only backlight is turned off to save battery!)
Code:
echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness
You can change "1" to anything from 1~255. I just found 1 bright enough for me
Since screen/system is always wake, to avoid accidental touch, a transparent Tasker Scene on top of the screen is add to disable the touch screen. A small "X" is on the bottom right to disable this transparent scene if anything goes wrong. (And it does, Tasker is laggy sometimes and too slow to remove this scene automatically!)
I also lower down the CPU cycle to the lowest possible to further saving battery. CPU returns to normal frequency when leaving watch face (into launcher, etc...)
That's all! Folks!
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Shake
I was able to use application Shake from ADL Dev (com.adl.appshaker) to switch screen on with shake/twist of wrist. You just have to enable "activate when screen off" option - and it is little battery hungry.
Of course I have version 20140513.
I also strongly suspect, that you can force sensors to work when face is off, by switching into "Sports mode" (Run Settings->SMART MODE->Sports Mode)
Piw said:
I was able to use application Shake from ADL Dev (com.adl.appshaker) to switch screen on with shake/twist of wrist. You just have to enable "activate when screen off" option - and it is little battery hungry.
Of course I have version 20140513.
I also strongly suspect, that you can force sensors to work when face is off, by switching into "Sports mode" (Run Settings->SMART MODE->Sports Mode)
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Thanks for the advice.... I just think since I already have Tasker on my TS, I want to find a way to not to use additional SW which always runs in background to monitor things... Since its battery hungry, maybe Shake also use the same trick as me......
As for Smart mode settings, I tried bdefore but none of them work for flick wrist to wake up... Maybe I missed something?
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might give this a shot since shake was waking up watch at wrong times and was destroying battery life, and i already have tasker on the watch and running so hopefully that will avoid the battery loss that shake had.
lssong99 said:
As for Smart mode settings, I tried bdefore but none of them work for flick wrist to wake up... Maybe I missed something?
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I was just guessing, because it suppose to leave GPS and accelerometer working with screen off, to enable sport trackers and pedometers.
If it works? - I haven't tested yet...
Piw said:
I was just guessing, because it suppose to leave GPS and accelerometer working with screen off, to enable sport trackers and pedometers.
If it works? - I haven't tested yet...
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Wow! It seems you are right! The watch DOES allow sensor to work on Sport mode after screen off, but the response from Tasker become very sluggish when screen-off!
I made a simple profile to detect shake action (if shake than beep), and when screen on, the watch beep in less than one second after shake began, but when screen-off (sport mode), It took Takers 5~6 seconds of continuous shaking to detect the shake event. Not very practical for a watch solution...
With my Backlight solution, although sometimes still hiccup happens, but my feeling is about 90% of time the watchface wakeup correctly...
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lssong99 said:
Wow! It seems you are right! The watch DOES allow sensor to work on Sport mode after screen off, but the response from Tasker become very sluggish when screen-off!
I made a simple profile to detect shake action (if shake than beep), and when screen on, the watch beep in less than one second after shake began, but when screen-off (sport mode), It took Takers 5~6 seconds of continuous shaking to detect the shake event. Not very practical for a watch solution...
With my Backlight solution, although sometimes still hiccup happens, but my feeling is about 90% of time the watchface wakeup correctly...
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i can not import to tasker tasker do not see it
pashka79 said:
i can not import to tasker tasker do not see it
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Do you mean the Tasker cannot see the prj file?
For how to import project, you could check http://tasker.dinglisch.net/userguide/en/faqs/faq-how.html#q
and you need to put the unrared file (.xml) in /sdcard/tasker/projects for Tasker to see it...
How much does this cost in battery? If I don't use my watch I can get about 4 days out of it.... I know Shake stops the TS going into deep sleep, won't this do the same and annihilate battery??
death_entry said:
How much does this cost in battery? If I don't use my watch I can get about 4 days out of it.... I know Shake stops the TS going into deep sleep, won't this do the same and annihilate battery??
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Don't know for tasker but I'm using shake app from market and I even I thought it'll drain my battery very fast - it didn't...
It's almost like I don't have it...
My battery can't hold on more then 24hours but I really use my watch and it's constantly connected to wifi and BT.
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funky0308 said:
Don't know for tasker but I'm using shake app from market and I even I thought it'll drain my battery very fast - it didn't...
It's almost like I don't have it...
My battery can't hold on more then 24hours but I really use my watch and it's constantly connected to wifi and BT.
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
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Ah that's prolly why you don't notice it running down... what do you use your watch for? Tbh i haven't used it for more than a watch lol/...
death_entry said:
Ah that's prolly why you don't notice it running down... what do you use your watch for? Tbh i haven't used it for more than a watch lol/...
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Well as I have Z1, which is quite big, I'm using TS mainly to receive notifications (using swapplink).
I'm receiving many emails (I'm using Z1 as my business phone) so it's great that I can see on my TS subject of email and decide what will I do.
I have sim card in TS and I use it all the time, when I'm alone in a car (and that's 6 hours per day )
I found TS quite practical for companion
BTW...from today, I'm using this app to help me save my battery power on TS and Z1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53078670
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lssong99 said:
Do you mean the Tasker cannot see the prj file?
For how to import project, you could check http://tasker.dinglisch.net/userguide/en/faqs/faq-how.html#q
and you need to put the unrared file (.xml) in /sdcard/tasker/projects for Tasker to see it...
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I tried this and Tasker can't see the xml on my TS
Here's a workaround for those having issues seeing the xml file in Tasker
Using a file manager, navigate to the location of the xml file
"Open with.." and choose Tasker
You will then see a toast notificaiton saying "...can be opened in Tasker" (or something like that)
Open Tasker -> Preferences -> UI -> Untick "Beginner Mode"
Back to main Tasker screen
In the HOME icon (bottom left) -> Long press, and choose "Import", then look for the XML file, wherever you put it
Boom
Note: Make sure you have the correct app from the Play Store, and not from the Ostore (same app, different names)
death_entry said:
How much does this cost in battery? If I don't use my watch I can get about 4 days out of it.... I know Shake stops the TS going into deep sleep, won't this do the same and annihilate battery??
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I am afraid that this will have an impact your battery. Basically to make TS responsive (light up as soon as you raise your hand), the screen/CPU is kept wake. Only LED backlight is disabled.
Although in my implement I put the CPU is slowest frequency and sleep Governor, but battery is around one day usage without radio on....
We need kernel tweak of this to achieve good battery life... Tasker is only... Tasker...
jeremy.chan said:
Here's a workaround for those having issues seeing the xml file in Tasker
Using a file manager, navigate to the location of the xml file
"Open with.." and choose Tasker
You will then see a toast notificaiton saying "...can be opened in Tasker" (or something like that)
Open Tasker -> Preferences -> UI -> Untick "Beginner Mode"
Back to main Tasker screen
In the HOME icon (bottom left) -> Long press, and choose "Import", then look for the XML file, wherever you put it
Boom
Note: Make sure you have the correct app from the Play Store, and not from the Ostore (same app, different names)
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Thanks I see it now.
put the unzip file at that location and still Tasker cannot see it?
Hi do read the solution I provided
Tapa-ed from the Sony Z Ultra
With my Note 4, it would wake up from Android Doze, or simply not enter that state if there was movement of the phone. I felt stupid needing to pick up my phone every 10 min to give it a small shake, but at least it seemed to work. I keep my phone in my pocket when I'm working outside and that always kept the Note 4 from falling into Doze mode. Not so with the S9+. It drops into Doze even in my pocket. Anyway to stop that from happening? Like others here, I feel frustrated needing to activate my screen to find out if there are notifications.
Brokk said:
With my Note 4, it would wake up from Android Doze, or simply not enter that state if there was movement of the phone. I felt stupid needing to pick up my phone every 10 min to give it a small shake, but at least it seemed to work. I keep my phone in my pocket when I'm working outside and that always kept the Note 4 from falling into Doze mode. Not so with the S9+. It drops into Doze even in my pocket. Anyway to stop that from happening? Like others here, I feel frustrated needing to activate my screen to find out if there are notifications.
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That's not Doze mode. Doze is when Android puts apps to sleep that are in memory not being used. This is done to save battery (and processing time?).
So what is happening here, if I understand, is that your phone display is going blank when you pull it from your pocket?
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That's not Doze mode. Doze is when Android puts apps to sleep that are in memory not being used. This is done to save battery (and processing time?).
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Doze was originally described as putting your phone into a power saving sleep mode after 20 min of "inactivity". The issue that caused me problems back then was not about the apps, but that notifications pushed to the device were queued up by the system until your phone "woke up", then the notifications would come rolling through. This happened at the system level regardless of app.
Perhaps in the latest version of Android they have changed the definition of Doze, but another poster was having a lot of issues with notifications (mostly email) and the culprit was deemed to be Doze.
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So what is happening here, if I understand, is that your phone display is going blank when you pull it from your pocket?
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No. My display is blank (as it should be) when I put it into my pocket, as well as when I pull it out. I always shut the screen off before putting my phone down, or in my pocket.
If I put my phone in my pocket, and 5-10 min later I get a notification, it comes through loud and clear and I pull my phone out and check it. If 20+ min has gone by without me having a reason to turn the screen on, then I stop getting notifications. When I pull it out to check the time or send a message, suddenly the notifications come rolling through.
Again, I was used to this if the Note 4 was put down, but this behavior is new to me if the phone is moving about.
Brokk said:
Doze was originally described as putting your phone into a power saving sleep mode after 20 min of "inactivity". The issue that caused me problems back then was not about the apps, but that notifications pushed to the device were queued up by the system until your phone "woke up", then the notifications would come rolling through. This happened at the system level regardless of app.
Perhaps in the latest version of Android they have changed the definition of Doze, but another poster was having a lot of issues with notifications (mostly email) and the culprit was deemed to be Doze.
No. My display is blank (as it should be) when I put it into my pocket, as well as when I pull it out. I always shut the screen off before putting my phone down, or in my pocket.
If I put my phone in my pocket, and 5-10 min later I get a notification, it comes through loud and clear and I pull my phone out and check it. If 20+ min has gone by without me having a reason to turn the screen on, then I stop getting notifications. When I pull it out to check the time or send a message, suddenly the notifications come rolling through.
Again, I was used to this if the Note 4 was put down, but this behavior is new to me if the phone is moving about.
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I concur. Same happens to me.
I don't have this issue at all. I have my phone in my pocket most of the day and don't need to "wake" the phone up for notifications. I can leave my phone unattended for hour or 3 and it still receives the notifications without issues. I don't know if I have turned on a setting that mine works different, but I must say that my battery life isn't that great....as if the phone never sleeps/doze at all
termdj said:
I don't have this issue at all. I have my phone in my pocket most of the day and don't need to "wake" the phone up for notifications. I can leave my phone unattended for hour or 3 and it still receives the notifications without issues. I don't know if I have turned on a setting that mine works different, but I must say that my battery life isn't that great....as if the phone never sleeps/doze at all
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I'm curious. Do you have any of the power saving modes turned on? Do you use "always on display"?
I never use the power save modes. Aod is on from 5 in the morning till 8 at night
termdj said:
I never use the power save modes. Aod is on from 5 in the morning till 8 at night
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AoD could be keeping your phone awake, preventing Doze. The power saving features talks about putting apps to sleep, so unless you use them, that could also be disabling Doze. I could try changing the power saving settings, though it seems like a shame. I have zero interesting in AoD for multiple reasons, so it's not worth it for me to use that to solve my problems.
Thanks for the information!
Doze changed in Nougat, I believe, so that motion no longer prevented Doze from working. Since most men, at least, carry their phone in their pocket Doze hardly ever kicked in, greatly limiting its power saving capability.
You can exempt specific apps from Doze if you want to get notifications from them even when dozing.
Settings / Apps / 3 dot menu / special access / Optimize battery usage. Select All Apps from the drop down. Turn off the toggle for any apps you don't want to Doze.
Brokk said:
Doze was originally described as putting your phone into a power saving sleep mode after 20 min of "inactivity". The issue that caused me problems back then was not about the apps, but that notifications pushed to the device were queued up by the system until your phone "woke up", then the notifications would come rolling through. This happened at the system level regardless of app.
Perhaps in the latest version of Android they have changed the definition of Doze, but another poster was having a lot of issues with notifications (mostly email) and the culprit was deemed to be Doze.
No. My display is blank (as it should be) when I put it into my pocket, as well as when I pull it out. I always shut the screen off before putting my phone down, or in my pocket.
If I put my phone in my pocket, and 5-10 min later I get a notification, it comes through loud and clear and I pull my phone out and check it. If 20+ min has gone by without me having a reason to turn the screen on, then I stop getting notifications. When I pull it out to check the time or send a message, suddenly the notifications come rolling through.
Again, I was used to this if the Note 4 was put down, but this behavior is new to me if the phone is moving about.
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Yes, I am confusing Doze with the Samsung power saving options. Blah!
I know the battery life will decrease with aod, but I have noticed that even without aod on my battery drop 2% per hour, so I leave it on...There are days that I can go 1 day and 8 hours before charging, but then my sot is only 2 hours....In general I'm happy with the battery life
meyerweb said:
You can exempt specific apps from Doze if you want to get notifications from them even when dozing.
Settings / Apps / 3 dot menu / special access / Optimize battery usage. Select All Apps from the drop down. Turn off the toggle for any apps you don't want to Doze.
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Thanks!
It seems oddly redundant needing to do essentially the same thing in two places. One well advertised under the battery settings, and the other one hidden under settings/apps/special access.
Hopefully this will fix my problems. Glad to know there is a work around.
Brokk said:
Thanks!
It seems oddly redundant needing to do essentially the same thing in two places. One well advertised under the battery settings, and the other one hidden under settings/apps/special access.
Hopefully this will fix my problems. Glad to know there is a work around.
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The two settings really are doing different things. Samsung's (in the battery settings), puts apps to sleep after 3 to 7 days (depending on your settings). The won't wake up again until you use them. Doze (the pretty much hidden option in Apps), lets the apps wake up on their own, when you start using the phone, even if you don't access those particular apps.
I'm not sure why the Doze setup is buried so deep in settings, though. I guess Google (or Samsung?) really doesn't want you interfering with it.
meyerweb said:
The two settings really are doing different things. Samsung's (in the battery settings), puts apps to sleep after 3 to 7 days (depending on your settings). The won't wake up again until you use them.
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I made a mistake of putting an app to sleep that I use to keep my screen awake. It uses a widget to toggle it on/off, but will shut off along with the screen if you intentionally shut your screen off. After putting that app to sleep, the widget stopped working. I had to go find the actual app, start it, then quickly flip back to my home screen and click on the widget. I couldn't undo my "sleep" action on that app. I changed it to "unmonitored", so that the S9+ would never put it to sleep. I rebooted. I shut off the power saving options. Nothing worked. Everytime I would go to the widget (unless I just started the actual app), it wouldn't react to clicking on the widget.
I finally gave up and uninstalled the app from my phone. Rebooted. Reinstalled it and now it works fine. So I'm not sure I agree with "puts the app to sleep in 3 to 7 days". Maybe 3-7 minutes...
Well, 3 to 7 days is what Samsung says, and the optional range you can set in the app. Don't know what specifically happened with that widget, though.
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Well, 3 to 7 days is what Samsung says, and the optional range you can set in the app. Don't know what specifically happened with that widget, though.
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Where is the setting(s) for optimal range? I don't remember specifying that. I thought it was more of an on/off thing. White listed (unmonitored resource consumption) or black listed (never let it run in the background). Then apps in neither list it reports to you and you can force them to sleep or not.
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Where is the setting(s) for optimal range? I don't remember specifying that. I thought it was more of an on/off thing. White listed (unmonitored resource consumption) or black listed (never let it run in the background). Then apps in neither list it reports to you and you can force them to sleep or not.
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Samsung does bury things....
Settings / Device maintenance, click Battery at the bottom.
Then click the 3 dot menu at the top, and Advanced Settings.
Tap App power monitor (the text, not the toggle).
Tap Put unused apps to sleep (again, the text).
You can set the slider anywhere between 3 days and 7.
I spent several days just wandering through every settings option I could find after I setup the phone. Discovered all kinds of hidden things. Sometimes I can even remember where I saw them.