Hi there guys, first of all thank you all so much for the support here.
I have a problem with my atrix, i googled a lot before posting, but i still can't find a solution:
I have a atrix 4G, unlocked, was running successfully neutrino 2,8 version.
After 2 months of being (almost) fully functional, the phone crashed(i didn't do anything particular at that time, i think that i was browsing google maps) suddenly and now i have continuous boot loop, i get only the classic red dual core logo, with the "unlocked" notification over it, and then after 10-15 sec it reboots.
I try to open it with holding volume down, to enter recovery, nothing happens. It reboots again. The computer doesn't see it, in this case.
I reboot it with holding volume up, says "starting RSD protocol suppport", and pc sees it and i get the cling-clong sound of usb.
I would do the recovery using rsd, but i read that it is not for unlocked devices, is this so? What can i do in this case? Thanks a lot!!!
ergotelis said:
Hi there guys, first of all thank you all so much for the support here.
I have a problem with my atrix, i googled a lot before posting, but i still can't find a solution:
I have a atrix 4G, unlocked, was running successfully neutrino 2,8 version.
After 2 months of being (almost) fully functional, the phone crashed(i didn't do anything particular at that time, i think that i was browsing google maps) suddenly and now i have continuous boot loop, i get only the classic red dual core logo, with the "unlocked" notification over it, and then after 10-15 sec it reboots.
I try to open it with holding volume down, to enter recovery, nothing happens. It reboots again. The computer doesn't see it, in this case.
I reboot it with holding volume up, says "starting RSD protocol suppport", and pc sees it and i get the cling-clong sound of usb.
I would do the recovery using rsd, but i read that it is not for unlocked devices, is this so? What can i do in this case? Thanks a lot!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You'll probably need to flash a new recovery partition. Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950307
RaiderDuck said:
You'll probably need to flash a new recovery partition. Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950307
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, but the problem is that this guy can get into the recovery with powering up+holding volume down button, if i understood well.but I can't!
ergotelis said:
Thanks, but the problem is that this guy can get into the recovery with powering up+holding volume down button, if i understood well.but I can't!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
flasing a recovery is done via fastboot so you don't have to enter recovery but fastboot (hold power and volume down till it shows fastboot, then press up) .
look at this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33137046&postcount=10
Fix
ergotelis said:
Hi there guys, first of all thank you all so much for the support here.
I have a problem with my atrix, i googled a lot before posting, but i still can't find a solution:
I have a atrix 4G, unlocked, was running successfully neutrino 2,8 version.
After 2 months of being (almost) fully functional, the phone crashed(i didn't do anything particular at that time, i think that i was browsing google maps) suddenly and now i have continuous boot loop, i get only the classic red dual core logo, with the "unlocked" notification over it, and then after 10-15 sec it reboots.
I try to open it with holding volume down, to enter recovery, nothing happens. It reboots again. The computer doesn't see it, in this case.
I reboot it with holding volume up, says "starting RSD protocol suppport", and pc sees it and i get the cling-clong sound of usb.
I would do the recovery using rsd, but i read that it is not for unlocked devices, is this so? What can i do in this case? Thanks a lot!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hello i had this problem yesterday, it happens in neutrino rom to alot of people!
and btw i could not open recovery either
ill explain what i had to do
i had to use moto-fastboot and install a new recovery, basically your recovery is dead and your rom is unbootable
heres the steps
download the moto drivers and install
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1381183&d=1349549067
then download the motofastboot zip http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1381414&d=1349555102
and create a new folder in C: (computer) called Android and then drag the files from the moto zip into android
Then download a new recovery http://www.mediafire.com/?6ww8wrjrdqq9m97
place the recovery.img into the android folder
now you have all the files needed to reflash your new recovery and fix your phone the whole idea is to reinstall recovery so you can access it and wipe and install the rom fresh again
now you need to do these steps
1) Attach your phone to the PC via USB (use a port closest to the power supply)
2) Reboot phone while holding volume down until you see "fastboot"
3) Press volume up to initiate fastboot
4) On your PC click the Start menu, then in the search box type "cmd"
5) In the command prompt type the following commands (no quotes, hit enter after each command)
6a) "cd c:/android"
6b) "moto-fastboot devices"
your CMD promt should show something like this
C:\Users\Me>cd c:/android
c:\Android>fastboot devices
TA20703SX9 fastboot
c:\Android>
now if that has all worked type the following phrases
moto-fastboot erase recovery
moto-fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-6.0.1.4-maguro.img
moto-fastboot reboot
now the phone should reboot, unplug the usb and pull battery out.
put battery back in and then try to boot into recovery like you normally would (power button + Vol Down)
and your new recovery should load!
from here you can wipe your whole system which i would reccomended as your current one is corrupt and install a new rom or reflash your current on onto a clean wipe. if you dont understand how to clean wipe do all of these steps, factory reset, clear cache, clean dalvik cache then go to mounts > storage and format data + format cache + format system
now install new rom and let it boot up, should bootloop a couple of times then start! if not unplug battery from phone and ask for further assitance
Pixelguy said:
1) Attach your phone to the PC via USB (use a port closest to the power supply)
2) Reboot phone while holding volume down until you see "fastboot"
3) Press volume up to initiate fastboot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for your help, the problem is exactly here, i put on the usb, i power up the phone by pressing the volume down, and the phone does nothing,doesn't show the fastboot,and after 10-15 secs starts rebooting again. This is my problem!
The only response from my phone is when powering up, and pressing the volume up, it says "starting rsd protocol support"
Is there any case that my volume down is dead?
ergotelis said:
Thank you for your help, the problem is exactly here, i put on the usb, i power up the phone by pressing the volume down, and the phone does nothing,doesn't show the fastboot,and after 10-15 secs starts rebooting again. This is my problem!
The only response from my phone is when powering up, and pressing the volume up, it says "starting rsd protocol support"
Is there any case that my volume down is dead?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
unplug usb
remove battery, then put battery back in make sure phone off (no green light)
then hold power button and vol down at the same time for a few seconds
Fastboot should appear in white writing then press up volume and it should say starting rsd protocal or something similiar
then plug in usb and follow the steps i have written above
i do exactly what you said, but doesn't show fastboot. from switched off, if i press volume up with power button, i see the message "starting rsd protocol support" .but no fastboot option!
Is there any chance that you can access adb after bootscreen? than you can use "adb reboot recovery" to get there...
jorno88 said:
Is there any chance that you can access adb after bootscreen? than you can use "adb reboot recovery" to get there...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When i start up phone, the only combination possible to stop restarting is by pressing power+vol up to show that with RSD. There is no other option then selectable. Power + volume down does not work, doesn't show anything, has anyone of you experienced this thing?
If the only working option you have is RSD, then I'm afraid you're stuck with having to flash a stock SBF. I hope you know/remember exactly what stock version you had installed before any modding or flashing, because the SBF has to match exactly. Choose wisely and read up as much as you can before flashing.
I have over a year now with custom roms, and i can't remember which version i had. Why do i have to find exactly the version that i had? The latest stock version won't work with rsd? It will make it hard brick?If i manage at least to recover the fastboot menus etc it would be great!
I will later also try to open it, to see if the side button "volume down" is not working,.
I have another question, in your moto atrix, if you press on startup power+vol up, are you also seeing the "starting RSD" etc option??
ergotelis said:
I have over a year now with custom roms, and i can't remember which version i had. Why do i have to find exactly the version that i had? The latest stock version won't work with rsd? It will make it hard brick?If i manage at least to recover the fastboot menus etc it would be great!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, flashing a wrong SBF will most likely hardbrick your device.
ergotelis said:
I have another question, in your moto atrix, if you press on startup power+vol up, are you also seeing the "starting RSD" etc option??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't try right now, but as far as I know, yes, that is a standard way to enter RSD mode.
thank you, so, i know that at least my phone responds to some instructions.
Is there anyone else to suggest me to do anything else?
IN rsd mode, (other than flashing a stock random rom with chance of hardbricking,)the phone can be read by usb, can i do anything there?
ergotelis said:
IN rsd mode, (other than flashing a stock random rom with chance of hardbricking,)the phone can be read by usb, can i do anything there?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sadly no. The RSD mode can only ever be used to flash SBFs. That's it. Nothing less, nothing more.
I will now try to open it to see if vol down is not working well. If it does work, i will select a stock rom 1 year old and i will flash it using rsd, and whatever happens....:good:
I disassembled the phone, the button seems to operate fine(?).
I flashed with RSDlite the 2.3.6 version, the RSD stuck to waiting for phone to restart.
The phone restarted, the "unlocked" logo disappeared.
Starts normally, passes the red motorola logo, shows the graphic of AT&T, and after ~10sec starts restarting again. Bootloop again!
At boot, pressing power+vol up, i can still get the RSD support. Pressing power+vol down does nothing, I don't see any error messages, like the ones in hard brick.
What can i do now, any ideas please!!!
try this
ergotelis said:
I disassembled the phone, the button seems to operate fine(?).
I flashed with RSDlite the 2.3.6 version, the RSD stuck to waiting for phone to restart.
The phone restarted, the "unlocked" logo disappeared.
Starts normally, passes the red motorola logo, shows the graphic of AT&T, and after ~10sec starts restarting again. Bootloop again!
At boot, pressing power+vol up, i can still get the RSD support. Pressing power+vol down does nothing, I don't see any error messages, like the ones in hard brick.
What can i do now, any ideas please!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yesterday I had a hard time getting my phone into fastboot mode, after loading a bad SV kernel,it only wanted to start the RSD protocol mode. I eventually got into fastboot by plugging into the wall charger, then removing and installing the battery while holding the vol button. When fastboot appears, unplug the charger to allow sd access.
Thanks for the suggestion, i tried even this,it didn't work. The funny thing is that it shows the battery charging level full screen if i connect the charger, as it starts.
I noticed also that when i press vol down now, it takes longer to start and continue to the moving red logo, it stays for a while stable red,feels like it is thinking whether to start or not lol (if i don't press vol down, on the power up the red moto logo immediately starts the classic "waving" effects)
Anyone having any kind of suggestion?I guess you don't, right?
Related
When I click power + volume keys (-, +, and both) nothing happens, 10 seconds later motorola logo appears for 2 seconds and then shuts down again.
Can you give more info?
1. Is your battery charged
2. Did you tried to flash stock roms with RSD, if you did, tell which xml you tried to install.
turffe said:
Can you give more info?
1. Is your battery charged
2. Did you tried to flash stock roms with RSD, if you did, tell which xml you tried to install.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Was charged 80-90% when it bricked. I cant see how many battery is remaining but if i see the moto logo, something have to have.
2. I need the bootloader before trying that. The RSD doesn't detect my phone.
Hi all,
I have Motorola XT621 Primus, after some playings with it and trying to root and add RTL patching i got a brick.
Now the status is that i have fastboot mode working but bootloader is locked, no recovery working and no ADB working, no boot too.
I tryed many ways to flash or unlock bootloader but nothing works. Any commands like fstboot oem got output like (...)
Is there any way to unlock bootloader via fastboot and flash new rom or it completely bricked?
Thanks!
abutreca said:
1. Was charged 80-90% when it bricked. I cant see how many battery is remaining but if i see the moto logo, something have to have.
2. I need the bootloader before trying that. The RSD doesn't detect my phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok first hold the two volume buttons then push and release the power button. Then click on bp tools and see if the logo comes and than goes to the battery thing. Or try to just go into the same place and say normal boot. If all else fails do a fast boot. and use the droid razr root utility to restore back to stock. Let me know if any of this helps or you have questions.
abutreca said:
When I click power + volume keys (-, +, and both) nothing happens, 10 seconds later motorola logo appears for 2 seconds and then shuts down again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try this exactly to get into fastboot mode...
Power off phone
Press and hold volume down and power button
When the screen flickers release only the power button.
If you can get into fastboot you can use Matt's DROID utility to flash OEM Jellybean Rom onto it in an attempt to resurrect.
LordGarth said:
Try this exactly to get into fastboot mode...
Power off phone
Press and hold volume down and power button
When the screen flickers release only the power button.
If you can get into fastboot you can use Matt's DROID utility to flash OEM Jellybean Rom onto it in an attempt to resurrect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No need, i had the warranty and they fixed it, also changed battery and the cover for the MS/SIM. I was lucky.
i soft bricked my phone when installing the cyanangen 12 rom, it quit during the setup wizzard. The button combination of down and power release when seeing lg and repressing is not working. PleASE TELL ME i can enter twrp without having to restore my phone to stock. The phone will receive phone calls but that is all it does. otherwise it says setup wizzard quit and endlessly says this when you press ok. please help, despite being in los angeles, i have not found anybody capable of helping me.
Patrick--in so much need...
What is the repressing step? I've never heard of that. Isn't it just vol down and power, then release power while still holding vol down until recovery boots?
Also, do you have adb or fastboot installed on a pc? If so, adb reboot recovery from CMD if in android, or fastboot reboot recovery if in bootloader. Have you tried those?
patrick73csun said:
i soft bricked my phone when installing the cyanangen 12 rom, it quit during the setup wizzard. The button combination of down and power release when seeing lg and repressing is not working. PleASE TELL ME i can enter twrp without having to restore my phone to stock. The phone will receive phone calls but that is all it does. otherwise it says setup wizzard quit and endlessly says this when you press ok. please help, despite being in los angeles, i have not found anybody capable of helping me.
Patrick--in so much need...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You don't have to release the buttons, idk why so many people keep saying this. Should be the same as mine.. With the phone off just hold both power and volume down until you see it say Recovery Mode loading, then release. If that doesn't work then try the adb command while plugged in to your computer.
Barshalen said:
You don't have to release the buttons, idk why so many people keep saying this. Should be the same as mine.. With the phone off just hold both power and volume down until you see it say Recovery Mode loading, then release. If that doesn't work then try the adb command while plugged in to your computer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup. Thats the same thing i was wondering. I had to use it last night. Just hold both. Easy.
Sent from rotary technology Phone
"Also, do you have adb or fastboot installed on a pc? If so, adb reboot recovery from CMD if in android, or fastboot reboot recovery if in bootloader. Have you tried those? "-----------
How do you get into bootloader if phone is bricked? It sees the phone, but it won't open up and let me look inside? Thank you
A window comes up and says that the kernal cracked.. My phone is having a hard time getting charged, could this be related?
HELP: i had been going to flash MR by myself, but when i tried to unlock it and flashed the rooted 'boot.img' extracted from 'Z4T_SGP771_AndroPlusKernel_v4.zip', i don't get the 'supersu' on the desktop properly, after tried a few times, i did a factory reset, it now hangs on boot logo, there is no response to 'power' button long pressed down, looks it will power down until battery goes up, does anyone also experience this? how can i restore this?
The link i'm following:
cwm-twrp-android.net/download/sony-xperia-z4-tablet-lte/
it prevents me paste the outside link since this my first post, so i removed http prefix.
I solved it by myself, after pressing 'Volume Down' + 'Power', it reboots, and looks the factory reset did nothing, it's weird.
On the .260 firmware AndroPlusKernel v4 won't work. I had the same thing when I accidentally flashed v5. You'll need v10. Also, download this stuff from official sources, look in the AndroPlusKernel thread here on XDA.
So, get into fastboot in some way (I don't know how I got back into it, just hammered the volume rocker) and flash the correct v10 boot.img.
Wei Xu said:
I solved it by myself, after pressing 'Volume Down' + 'Power', it reboots, and looks the factory reset did nothing, it's weird.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
to go in fastboot mode press and hold down volume up and connect to your Pc, the led become blue
To go in flash mode press and hold down volume down and connect to your pc, the led become yellow for a few seconds so you must be fast to enter the command in ADB
killdozer56 said:
Hi,
to go in fastboot mode press and hold down volume up and connect to your Pc, the led become blue
To go in flash mode press and hold down volume down and connect to your pc, the led become yellow for a few seconds so you must be fast to enter the command in ADB
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks a lot for your comments, i have root it successfully, is there anyone made it to flash MarshMallow? i tried to update it with TWRY with officially binary SW_binaries_for_Xperia_AOSP_M_v01_2.zip, but it tells 'Could not find 'META-INF/com/google/android/update-binary' in the zip file', does anyone know how to survive this?
I also find a AOSP version 'AOSP_L_MR1_160113_karin.zip' from www.androidfilehost.com, but it only contains image file, i tried to flash them all, others(boot, userdata, recovery) are all ok, but it hangs at flashing 'system.img', i terminate it forcely after waiting for 20+ mins, the system boot up back to 5.0.2 after that.
If i use TWRP to install this zip, it tells the same error with the official binary, anyone know if this will work?
Ok, I just want to know if my phone is hard bricked, or if I still have a chance...
I tried to install an update (121 to 170 for plk-l01) on my rooted phone, with local update. It didn't worked, twrp show errors everywhere, and after turning off know i can't access the recovery. when I press on vol+/- and power for 10-15 second, it vibrate but nothing else.
Is there anything I can do ? my phone isn't recognized by my computer, by the way...
Why you did that? You can't update rooted phone
Idiocrate said:
Ok, I just want to know if my phone is hard bricked, or if I still have a chance...
I tried to install an update (121 to 170 for plk-l01) on my rooted phone, with local update. It didn't worked, twrp show errors everywhere, and after turning off know i can't access the recovery. when I press on vol+/- and power for 10-15 second, it vibrate but nothing else.
Is there anything I can do ? my phone isn't recognized by my computer, by the way...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try to boot into fastboot (phone turned off - connect with data usb to the computer - vol down + power on). Extract rom which is currently installed or higher (for your respective model) and flash from it:
fastboot.exe flash boot BOOT.img
fastboot.exe flash recovery RECOVERY.img
fastboot.exe flash cust CUST.img
fastboot.exe flash system SYSTEM.img
Reboot.
piskr said:
Try to boot into fastboot (phone turned off - connect with data usb to the computer - vol down + power on). Extract rom which is currently installed or higher (for your respective model) and flash from it:
fastboot.exe flash boot BOOT.img
fastboot.exe flash recovery RECOVERY.img
fastboot.exe flash cust CUST.img
fastboot.exe flash system SYSTEM.img
Reboot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, but unfortunately, it just 'boot' as others reboots. it vibrates, doesn't get recognize and doesn't turn on...
If anyone have any clue on how to force recognizing the phone storage, it might really help ^^
That is what my phone is doing, I tried to upgrade to marshmallow though with no root!! I put the zip in the dload folder and went through the upgrade process everything went through the phone rebooted and now its dead. Blank screen and if you hold power after a few seconds it will vibrate but that is it. I presume its hard bricked? no matter what combo of buttons I press I cannot get it in to fastboot.
james194zt said:
That is what my phone is doing, I tried to upgrade to marshmallow though with no root!! I put the zip in the dload folder and went through the upgrade process everything went through the phone rebooted and now its dead. Blank screen and if you hold power after a few seconds it will vibrate but that is it. I presume its hard bricked? no matter what combo of buttons I press I cannot get it in to fastboot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok I'm looking for a solution for hours now... so I just lokked how works our phone and I think the trouble must be in the preloader, because I can't even make my phone being recognized by any computer and I can't access to recovery.
I found this :
http://www.droidgyan.com/soft-brick-vs-hard-bricked-vs-broken/
Which could help. I'll leave that topic on for some days (if it could help someone) and I'll open a new one to know if there is any easier solution ! thanks and good luck.
I sorted mine, it was only 2 days old so I got it replaced by the shop I bought it on. I would say it was something like a pre loader from what I saw. I have never bricked an Android phone and I must have had 15-20 of them since my first HTC Magic and before that Windows Mobile which again I messed with tons reloading with all sorts of ROM's!! These phones are wayyyy too sensitive to being messed with, I always remember though that you never mess with the boot loaders, but it looks like these updates do to get it bricked to that point.
Idiocrate said:
Thanks, but unfortunately, it just 'boot' as others reboots. it vibrates, doesn't get recognize and doesn't turn on...
If anyone have any clue on how to force recognizing the phone storage, it might really help ^^
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have adb debugging activated on the phone? Did you try to hold phone buttons long enough?
piskr said:
Do you have adb debugging activated on the phone? Did you try to hold phone buttons long enough?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Euuum..... maybe yes ? I used fastboot but I don't think it really matters now, there's nothing working on it. And I've sometimes hold the buttons for 30-40 second while praying lol
korenisko said:
Why you did that? You can't update rooted phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
local update
I just hard bricked my Honor 7 the same way. Is there really no solution? Other China-Phones are pretty much unbrickable, since you can always fix it via the preloader. No such luck here? Back to the shop and hope they actually replace it? While I admit it was stupid to just hastily start the OTA while having twrp and not stock recovery (no root, though), this is a terrible design flaw on Huaweis side.
Anyway... any hope or no chance?
i just hard bricked my honor 7 PLK-L01
it the same thing it is doing . not recognized by the computer
tried all the combination of buttons. but no hope
and it only vibrates when tried to turn on
Need urgent help please
@Idiocrate try to boot into bootloader mode just by pressing Vol DOWN button and simultaneously connecting it to a PC, don't press Power button, if it boots into it, then follow the method given by @piskr in third post.
Hi experts,
I really don't know what happened to this phone. I left it on the charger (usb->pc) for couple hours and when I got back, only the LG Logo. I removed the battery and reboot the unit, it gets stuck at the LG Logo. So I google around for a fix. Found some.... but to no avail! Following is what I don't understand!
1. When I do factory reset, (volume down + power key), click YES and it says "Factory Reset Processing". This process takes forever. I went outside for like 30 minutes and when I got back, still at the same screen.
2. When I try to flash via bootloader (volume up + insert usb cable) it goes into fastboot mode then tells me to press the volume up button until I see the download mode. Well, this proces, like the above, I press the volume up key for like 20 to 30 minutes, nothing happens.
3. When I remove/insert battery, power up the unit, it gets stuck at the LG logo but the pc cannot recognize it.
What seems to be the problem here?
Thank you very much!
OMG, We have same problem ,I don't know what happen with that, Even I don't use couple months ,I try to do MP3 Player ,Can not be boot on.. I just want to try re-flash now if I can do this with my PC.
Jabbacks said:
Hi experts,
I really don't know what happened to this phone. I left it on the charger (usb->pc) for couple hours and when I got back, only the LG Logo. I removed the battery and reboot the unit, it gets stuck at the LG Logo. So I google around for a fix. Found some.... but to no avail! Following is what I don't understand!
1. When I do factory reset, (volume down + power key), click YES and it says "Factory Reset Processing". This process takes forever. I went outside for like 30 minutes and when I got back, still at the same screen.
2. When I try to flash via bootloader (volume up + insert usb cable) it goes into fastboot mode then tells me to press the volume up button until I see the download mode. Well, this proces, like the above, I press the volume up key for like 20 to 30 minutes, nothing happens.
3. When I remove/insert battery, power up the unit, it gets stuck at the LG logo but the pc cannot recognize it.
What seems to be the problem here?
Thank you very much!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since you can get into fastboot mode, you don't have to press volume up, from here you can just fastboot flash your phone using stock ROM or use my tool (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6vSHGXxJIWmVjRVMlRSQW9HWWs) that I wrote to flash it (easier for beginners).
RAZERZDAHACKER said:
Since you can get into fastboot mode, you don't have to press volume up, from here you can just fastboot flash your phone using stock ROM or use my tool (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6vSHGXxJIWmVjRVMlRSQW9HWWs) that I wrote to flash it (easier for beginners).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't see any files in your unbrick folder
equitube said:
I don't see any files in your unbrick folder
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, okay, screw that. Just flash them normally