I switched to the HTC evo 4G when it came out and I swore up and down that HTC was the best. They were 2 years ago. They had timely updates, awesome software and hardware, everything worked right out of the box. I don't know what happened to them. No matter what rom I use it have little glitches and bugs, proximity sensor doesn't work properly sometimes. It's disheartening to see Samsung getting their jellybean update tomorrow and our phone has been out longer. I may be suffering from 'the grass is greener' syndrome, and yes I am whining, but it sad to see HTC slipping like this.
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I switched to the HTC evo 4G when it came out and I swore up and down that HTC was the best. They were 2 years ago. They had timely updates, awesome software and hardware, everything worked right out of the box. I don't know what happened to them. No matter what rom I use it have little glitches and bugs, proximity sensor doesn't work properly sometimes. It's disheartening to see Samsung getting their jellybean update tomorrow and our phone has been out longer. I may be suffering from 'the grass is greener' syndrome, and yes I am whining, but it sad to see HTC slipping like this.
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HTC is digging its own grave. We better see jellybean by the end of this year or else....my new years resolution will be to go elsewhere.
The fact that everything works on the stock rom means that it's because of the rom your running or some setting you goofed with. Unroot and return to stock if little quirks are your issue. Root will always involve little bugs like that... It always has as long as I've been a flash addict.
Honestly, if your on anything but a stock Rom, its not HTC....
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That's the thing, I run stock 98% of the time. The reason I try other roms is to see if these bugs are widespread. I like stock, and maybe it's my phone. That brings me to another thing that I envy about Samsung, ease of root. There is no locked bootloader. I don't want to trade my s-off evo for a refurbished one that has an hboot I can't s-off. I know a downgrade method has been found, which is awesome news, but my point is that HTC should know better by now.
I was originally going to go with the EVO brand, but I went from the Epic to the Evo 3D, where the bootloader was locked down tight. I took my device back and bought a SGS2. Then I was going to give the EVO LTE a chance, but after the SGSIII was announced, I knew what my choice was.
HTC used to be really good and friendly to the devs here but now they're not too friendly about it. Samsung's always been friendly towards devs (aside from Verizon devices). That is why I went with them.
EDIT: and also post SGS2, Samsung's device support has been alot better. The first SGS wasn't too good. lol
What annoys me about HTC, is that stuff that I want to work easily just doesn't. For example, USB host is already enabled on Samsung phones, for some reason HTC has it disabled in their stock Rom/kernel. And HTC, why do you have to be so cantankerous when it comes to root? You go through great means to lock down the system. Why not just make a simple OEM unlock? But I got to admit...I do love sense.
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I know, I love sense, I love the screen. Maybe I'm just being too picky. I was on t-Mobile and I had the Samsung vibrant. It was the first galaxy and it was a pos. I told myself I would never get another Samsung, lately I've been debating trying them again though.
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I know, I love sense, I love the screen. Maybe I'm just being too picky. I was on t-Mobile and I had the Samsung vibrant. It was the first galaxy and it was a pos. I told myself I would never get another Samsung, lately I've been debating trying them again though.
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I'll admit, I just recently started having an interest in the Galaxy Nexus. But even still, I'm HTC all the way.
samsung is the new future apple. stay away from communism.
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samsung is the new future apple. stay away from communism.
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Of course. I'm more interested in one of their phones, not them and their portfolio of phones. I'd never make the switch. Sense is too valuable, and the build quality alone would make me a lifetime HTC customer.
In all reality I probably won't switch, I think I just felt like whining about little. Hopefully things get ironed out and we get a good update soon.
bugs with root? sorry but that's the silliest thing i've read in a while....
custom roms not fully based on stock firmware [read: mixed releases hacked together/ports/aosp] released by HTC, MAY have some bug here and there, or even broken things. This is expected, unless building from 100% released source.
stock-based roms can be fully upgraded, features added, speeds tweaked, etc and stay as good as ever...
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In all reality I probably won't switch, I think I just felt like whining about little. Hopefully things get ironed out and we get a good update soon.
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In Dr. Phil voice...."And Metalfan, how does this make you feel"?
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And LTE connectivity issues just pushes things over the edge.
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metalfan78 said:
.... It's disheartening to see Samsung getting their jellybean update tomorrow and our phone has been out longer. I may be suffering from 'the grass is greener' syndrome, and yes I am whining, but it sad to see HTC slipping like this.
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Phone being out longer does have everything to do with updates....just the opposite of how you want it to be. Sprint will update devices in order of last flagship released gets it first. It's common sense they do it this way and only rare cases does that not hold true.
So you want updates first, but the most recent flagship from Samsung or HTC. Whoever released later will get OT first likely...
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That makes sense. I didn't think of it that way. I'm not worried about getting jellybean, but it would be nice to get a maintenance update soon.
Really think the EVO LTE was pushed out too fast. I know this isn't a big epiphany or anything. Sprint had them modify the one x to have an exclusive one series phone and it shows. HTC had a limited time to make those modifications as well. Considering that, I think they did a fairly decent job.
Due to the issues with this device I believe I will research and wait further before buying a new HTC phone (as well I should and on other brands too).
As soon as I heard about the new EVO I was in, pre-ordered immediately. Never again! Or until the EVO LTEX part deux comes out, maybe, possibly.
I pre-ordered my EVO as soon as it was available too, but I was so desperate for an upgrade (coming from an LG Optimus S) that I didn't care about any of the shortcomings (remember the multitasking fiasco?).
I had a little bit of buyer's remorse when the S3 came out, but it only took a few minutes of actually playing with one to realize it wasn't for me.
HTC may have been a little rushed and/or off-track when they released the EVO, but they've already pushed two fairly major updates that have fixed a lot of our initial complaints (multitasking, hideous 3-dot menu button, overall smoothness). I don't have LTE in my area yet, so I can't comment on 4G connectivity issues. But I'm willing to bet that will be sorted as well.
All-in-all I'm pretty happy with the EVO, but I'll probably be a little more wary on my next upgrade about getting caught up in the "next big thing" release hype for whatever's out a year and a half from now.
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Phone being out longer does have everything to do with updates....just the opposite of how you want it to be. Sprint will update devices in order of last flagship released gets it first. It's common sense they do it this way and only rare cases does that not hold true.
So you want updates first, but the most recent flagship from Samsung or HTC. Whoever released later will get OT first likely...
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Didn't the EVO get an update to gingerbread before the Samsung Epic did?
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Didn't the EVO get an update to gingerbread before the Samsung Epic did?
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Ehh maybe.... But at that time there was a new flagship on HTC out anyway...when comparing against OEMs I guess its best to say only against the latest flagship device on each side...
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Hey guys,
I'm deciding between the 3VO and the sg2. I've looked up comparisons of the two and it seems that the hardware is better on sg2 and software is better on 3vo. I'm thinking that the 3vo would probably get better devolopment tho.
So convince me why I should get the 3vo, I really don't know! I saw that the sg2 is like $700-$800 no contract in the UK, if true. Ill get the 3vo. Do you guys think it really costs that much?
i made a mistake and bought a samsung phone, that will never happen again. its nice to have working gps on my evo 3d.
Development wise the EVO 3D will be better I'm sure. There's a lot of great developers on this phone right now and will be more coming
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Hey guys,
I'm thinking that the 3vo would probably get better devolopment tho.
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That depends on a number of factors, time being the most important. If our mighty developers crack the phone and/or HTC unlocks it in the 30 day return window (starting on the 24th of June) then there is nothing to worry about and I absolutely assure you that the best and most development will be going on here on the E3D scene...
...once we hit that 30 day window the amount of developer interest is going to sink quickly, not to mention the untold thousands of E3D handsets from twitchy users (like myself) who can't stand the thought of having a locked phone or a phone that is unlocked late in the game with a lame-duck dev community.
Samsung has been sending out SGS2's to developers....and it doesn't have an encryption-signed bootloader.
Search for the thread "hey check out how powerful the EVO 3d is" (something like that) and you will see that hardware is not really superior either way. You could argue it either way and still not be correct.
The above, combined with the reputation of both should make HTC an easy choice....at least in my opinion.
Plus you are right, the software and development side of the 3vo should be a lot better.
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I was in the same boat as you. I wanted to wait for the S2 to come out and compare but since my phone crapped out, I went with the 3D. Do we have a confirm release date for the S2 on Sprint yet?
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Development wise the EVO 3D will be better I'm sure. There's a lot of great developers on this phone right now and will be more coming
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If the developers are unable to crack the bootloader and HTC does not release the unlocked bootloader, then there will be almost 0 development on our phone.
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I was in the same boat as you. I wanted to wait for the S2 to come out and compare but since my phone crapped out, I went with the 3D. Do we have a confirm release date for the S2 on Sprint yet?
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No. There hasn't even been an official statement indicating that it is coming to Sprint. Last year I believe the phones arrival to Sprint was announced in mid-late July. Then, in early August the late August release date was announced. Looks like we may be seeing the same trend. Sadly, if the E3D is not unlocked soon, I may be getting an SGS2 as well though vastly prefer HTC's products over Samsung's.
If the SGS2 came out the same time I probably wouldve picked it over the 3d. In almost all reviews I've read that SGS2 is fast and unable to be slowed down. Tegra 2 games also will play once you root it and install chainfire. Look at this lengthy review below and I recommend watching some of the video comparisons with some other phones. If theres no full root on the 3d and as long as there's an official announcement of the SGS2 (regardless if its coming july or august)within 30 days that I've had my 3d then mines probably also going back.
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/sho...l-done-now-links-inside-for-anyone-interested...
July 24th is the highly anticipated yet unofficial release date.
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July 24th is the highly anticipated yet unofficial release date.
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That's just way too easy....
...though if Samsung had anything to do with it it was a brilliant maneuver.
If the phone came out tomorrow I would say the GSII. Development on the 3D is dead in the water & looks to stay that way unless HTC decides to unlock the bootloader & nand. Pound for pound the GSII looks to be the better phone hardwise if your read all of the reviews. But history tells us that Samsung is notorious for not supporting their devices & the dev community seems to like HTC products better but that may change with the 3D/Sensation debacle that is unfolding & Samsung seems to be catching on with support. Hard one to call right now. I'm gonna upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Prime if they come to Sprint but if this bootloader/nand situation doesn't get straightend out before 30 days the 3D is going back & I'll just have the OG Evo & GSII/Prime.
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I had Verizon's version of the Galaxy S 1 and it was a huge disappointment. Not because of the hardware... the hardware as awesome which is why I bought it... but because of Samsung bloat, touchwiz and having to wait 6+ months for the 2.2 update to roll out. I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S 2 until Samsung shows they're able to support a phone for more than a month.
(Unless HTC fails to unlock their bootloader, in that case I'd swallow my pride and move to an S2)
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If the phone came out tomorrow I would say the GSII. Development on the 3D is dead in the water & looks to stay that way unless HTC decides to unlock the bootloader & nand. Pound for pound the GSII looks to be the better phone hardwise if your read all of the reviews. But history tells us that Samsung is notorious for not supporting their devices & the dev community seems to like HTC products better but may change with the 3D/Sensation debacle that is unfolding & Samsung seems to be catching on with support. Hard one to call right now. I'm gonna upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Prime if they come to Sprint but if this bootloader/nand situation doesn't get straightend out before 30 days the 3D is going back & I'll just have the OG Evo & GSII/Prime.
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I'm with you man... I just took a peek into the GSII forum and, um, yeah, I think my mind is made up. Most of that would be good for us with minimal tweaking I'd imagine...
Way to go HTC.
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I had Verizon's version of the Galaxy S 1 and it was a huge disappointment. Not because of the hardware... the hardware as awesome which is why I bought it... but because of Samsung bloat, touchwiz and having to wait 6+ months for the 2.2 update to roll out. I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S 2 until Samsung shows they're able to support a phone for more than a month.
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who cares about mfgr support? If the hardware is good and the is a dev community...well...I'm in. GS2 already has most of CM7 ready....CDMA version would likely require a little tweaking, but, likely not much.
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who cares about mfgr support? If the hardware is good and the is a dev community...well...I'm in. GS2 already has most of CM7 ready....CDMA version would likely require a little tweaking, but, likely not much.
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Mfgr support goes a long way, especially when major updates are concerned. Take the Epic for example. Before the official Froyo update we had a few leaks & ROMS built off those leaks but none of them (and I tried them all) came without a major bug or flaw. It's always better to base a ROM off of a official update rather than a leaked one.
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Mfgr support goes a long way, especially when major updates are concerned. Take the Epic for example. Before the official Froyo update we had a few leaks & ROMS built off those leaks but none of them (and I tried them all) came without a major bug or flaw. It's always better to base a ROM off of a official update rather than a leaked one.
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There were no pure AOSP offerings? I am obviously not familiar at all with the landscape on the Samsung side of things--I ditched my moment for my EVO4G and haven't looked back....But I'd imagine that as long as they release their kernel source there would be a handful of pure AOSP roms, at the least....I see CM7 is almost together for the GS2, I'd imagine there would be the usual collection of CM based roms at the very least. I also see MIUI is being maintained for the GS2 already...
...just supply the kernel source and update the radios as needed. I'm well familiar with Samsung's desire to never update anything past release.
SGSII is awesome, I watched a hands on video of it last night, made me excited. LOL
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SGSII is awesome, I watched a hands on video of it last night, made me excited. LOL
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Made me excited too till I read the forums if people who have it......lots of issues it seems.
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It's looking like the sgs2 for me as well. Quality on the evo 3d just doesn't seem to be there
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Just a heads up. The end of July is 10 weeks, so let's hope its closer to June...
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
Aight coo
Did I just assume when I bought it that it would be in the first wave? Or did they actually say that when the Rezound was launched? I honestly can't remember.
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Did I just assume when I bought it that it would be in the first wave? Or did they actually say that when the Rezound was launched? I honestly can't remember.
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I think it was supposed to be "first quarter" which I guess is in June now.
Once again, I'll believe it when I see the OTA notification on my phone.
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I'm getting really sick of this ****. It's been 6 months since ICS came out, and very, very few phones have ICS. It's embarrasing and starting to make me reconsider Android. I'm happy rooted and ROMed, but you shouldn't need to hack your phone to get updates.
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I'm getting really sick of this ****. It's been 6 months since ICS came out, and very, very few phones have ICS. It's embarrasing and starting to make me reconsider Android. I'm happy rooted and ROMed, but you shouldn't need to hack your phone to get updates.
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If you want incessant updates that constantly disables jailbreak you're more than welcome to hit up ios.
I don't really see what the problem is other just impatience. People who don't do custom roms still have a perfectly useable phone on GB, and those who can't wait have a lot of extra options.
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my first thought was "if this is another crappy article making radical claims someones getting an angry letter"
good to hear =)
should be happy the ETA isn't in 2013 at the current rollout rates hehe
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I'm getting really sick of this ****. It's been 6 months since ICS came out, and very, very few phones have ICS. It's embarrasing and starting to make me reconsider Android. I'm happy rooted and ROMed, but you shouldn't need to hack your phone to get updates.
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And look at the GNex. Six months after release and still on 4.0.2. If you have one of those you must really be steaming. What happened to the Google Experience?
tonictonic said:
If you want incessant updates that constantly disables jailbreak you're more than welcome to hit up ios.
I don't really see what the problem is other just impatience. People who don't do custom roms still have a perfectly useable phone on GB, and those who can't wait have a lot of extra options.
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Another thing I hate--false dichotomies. If I want updates iOS, if I want a bigger screen and openness, Android.
BS. It's possible to have both. If, for example, HTC had stuck to their hero device model and ONLY released a One X, S, and V, do you think updates would be difficult? Nope. It'd be easy.
Samsung? Well, updates would be easy too if they release a GSM GS3, a CDMA/LTE GS3 and a GSM/LTE GS3, but I'd guess by December we'll have the Galaxy S3 Skyrocket HD Supreme LTE 5G Maxxx.
Release fewer, better models. Easier software updates. Not hard. Not iOS.
tekhna said:
Another thing I hate--false dichotomies. If I want updates iOS, if I want a bigger screen and openness, Android.
BS. It's possible to have both. If, for example, HTC had stuck to their hero device model and ONLY released a One X, S, and V, do you think updates would be difficult? Nope. It'd be easy.
Samsung? Well, updates would be easy too if they release a GSM GS3, a CDMA/LTE GS3 and a GSM/LTE GS3, but I'd guess by December we'll have the Galaxy S3 Skyrocket HD Supreme LTE 5G Maxxx.
Release fewer, better models. Easier software updates. Not hard. Not iOS.
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I only half disagree with this. If it were up to HTC/Samsung/Google/etc. all the devices, more than likely, would be kept up to date, and in a somewhat timely fashion.
Look at the Verizon GNex. Do you think Google and Samsung don't have a working build of 4.0.4 on it? Sure they do. Verizon just isn't happy with it, for whatever reason. Same thing applies to 90% of phones in the US.
The international, unlocked versions of phones get the newer updates faster than their US counterparts, and the cell companies have a huge impact on that.
I'm not saying manufacturers and Google don't deserve some of the blame, because they do; they're pretty lazy and complacent in a way that Apple would never be. But I think Verizon is more at fault than any other party, and I'd like to see the cell companies get more heat than Google over this stuff lately.
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but I'd guess by December we'll have the Galaxy S3 Skyrocket HD Supreme LTE 5G Maxxx.
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Oh, my, God. I must have that device. Lol awesome name.
tekhna said:
I'm getting really sick of this ****. It's been 6 months since ICS came out, and very, very few phones have ICS. It's embarrasing and starting to make me reconsider Android. I'm happy rooted and ROMed, but you shouldn't need to hack your phone to get updates.
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I don't care about whether or not stock phones can get updates or not. The only point I'll start getting annoyed is when it starts becoming difficult to even ROM the phone. In our case, we don't have kernel source. In my world, that's the only real big issue with fragmentation: With so many different hardware configurations out and more and more proprietary software sprouting up (the plethora grows!), getting someone to create a stable ROM and maintain it becomes ever harder.
All this choice is good for people with different things in mind and even though ICS is the business, Gingerbread (IMO) is still pretty sweet. Stock Gingerbread, that is. But boy, now we're having a hard time getting kernels made, the number of devices we have are definitely starting to outpace the number of developers with the time on their hands, etc.
Really you guys don't see a problem with it taking so long to get updates? I know I do. So maybe we will have an update in 6-8 weeks and kernel source in 8-10 that's great. I often wonder what HTC does all day. Must be a pretty laid back place to work.
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I'm sick of these "announcements". Not because of not having ICS (because we do) but the amount "announcements" we have had that were bull****.
Yea but most of these "announcements" have obviously been fake. I don't recall HTC ever putting anything out saying when they would roll updates out. I could be wrong though as I haven't given it too much attention
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I'm sick of these "announcements". Not because of not having ICS (because we do) but the amount "announcements" we have had that were bull****.
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This is the first word from HTC regarding the update. In reality, all the other "announcements" were unconfirmed rumors.
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Just a heads up. The end of July is 10 weeks, so let's hope its closer to June...
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
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only 10 weeks...this puts how short the summer is into perspective. i think ill sit back and try to stop obsessively checking the forums for nebulous ics updates and enjoy the summer. hell we worry more about it then some devs do
The problem is, is that if the upgrade is slated to hit at the end of July, it'll be August possibly before we get kernel source since it usually takes like two weeks for source to release.
We don't get updates because of device/carrier fragmentation. Each level of choice is an opportunity for the manufacturer or carriert to differentiate their product or service. This is necessary to be competitive with its industry rivals and to continue to grow sales, thus making shareholders happy. It becomes difficult to allocate resources to support such a wide range of hardware apps and carrier specific needs, so the choice has to be made, which device to support. Then it becomes a question as to, support for which user base will benefit the company most. But this always come behind pushing the newest product, as support is an expense which only produces goodwill. That being said they almost always promise that whatever their selling will be fully supported and updated expeditiously.
I'm eligible for my upgrade in Mid-Nov. I'm on the fence as between the 4G LTE and Samsung GSIII. Or, I could wait a little longer, maybe after new year, and see what is planned for Sprint's new Android lineup (if any).
I had always thought I would just stick with HTC but I am not sure anymore. The fixed battery really scares me. I rely on swapping batteries in my EVO 3D often and I have chargers everywhere as it is. That is really the only thing that makes me consider Samsung.
Anyone who's had a 4G LTE for a while now wish they got a GSIII? How is having a fixed battery?
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I'm eligible for my upgrade in Mid-Nov. I'm on the fence as between the 4G LTE and Samsung GSIII. Or, I could wait a little longer, maybe after new year, and see what is planned for Sprint's new Android lineup (if any).
I had always thought I would just stick with HTC but I am not sure anymore. The fixed battery really scares me. I rely on swapping batteries in my EVO 3D often and I have chargers everywhere as it is. That is really the only thing that makes me consider Samsung.
Anyone who's had a 4G LTE for a while now wish they got a GSIII? How is having a fixed battery?
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No remorse at all love the phone fixed battery is not a issue as most users are averaging 15 hrs a charge
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There are quite a few people who feel remorse over the multitasking issue, where even with most custom ROMs you'll still have the problem that the phone does not multitask properly. This is fixed with AOSP ROMs and I'm sure there will eventually be a legitimate fix for the problem on Sense, but as of now it's something that people have to put up with. I never really noticed it or was bothered by it, but a lot of people here are upset by it so I would keep that in mind.
Buy the Galaxy S III, then trade with me. My EVO LTE is superb. Kept in an Otterbox all of its life.
my only remorse is that they ran out of blacks and i got stuck with the white......oh well
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my only remorse is that they ran out of blacks and i got stuck with the white......oh well
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Id prefer white actually. Why do you say that?
Keyz450 said:
my only remorse is that they ran out of blacks and i got stuck with the white......oh well
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Trade you black for white as long as your soff like me lol
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Anyone who's had a 4G LTE for a while now wish they got a GSIII?
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Got mine in the pre-order. No regrets whatsoever
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How is having a fixed battery?
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Never been an issue for me, and many others here and in other forums. As you know, battery life is highly dependant on your particular useage and can vary greatly from person to person.
There are many EVO vs GS3 type threads, but it basically comes down to personal preference. But don't let someone try to BS you into thinking the GS3 is "faster" because it has 2 GBs, lol.
I love the EVO LTE but I have s-off which was Important to me. The current hboots don't have it at the moment.
If that's important to you I'd go with the s3. Or wait for the new nexus which will probably have s3 specs but be straight aosp and guaranteed key lime pie next year.
I am assuming that the trend will continue where the Nexus phone has similar specs to the previous Galaxy S version.
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I love the EVO LTE but I have s-off which was Important to me. The current hboots don't have it at the moment.
If that's important to you I'd go with the s3. Or wait for the new nexus which will probably have s3 specs but be straight aosp and guaranteed key lime pie next year.
I am assuming that the trend will continue where the Nexus phone has similar specs to the previous Galaxy S version.
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But what is the ETA for the "new Nexus," particularly on Sprint?
A little.
The phone is nice, but it has issues. This is the first HTC phone I've been disappointed with...everyone else hated the 3D but I enjoyed that phone.
The muliti tasking, Wifi constantly dropping, sense weather widget constantly showing thunderstorms, the way Sense is still bloated and laggy at times...that and the useless HTC Hub never offering anything new, or widgets that should be common. I'm just starting to grow tired of it all honestly.
A lot of the problem can be fixed with AOSP roms, but then you lose the one real thing that made this phone, the badass Sense camera we have. I wouldn't say I'm anti Htc or anti Evo LTE..but I am disappointed.
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But what is the ETA for the "new Nexus," particularly on Sprint?
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I think it will be closer to when Verizon releases their phone. The last 1 was released in December for them. And I think the Nexus S was released in November of 2010.
So I think by the time your upgrade comes around in the middle of November you will know what's going to happen with the next Nexus phone.
Pure speculation of course.
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I have a little remorse. Had an SGIII for about 2 - 3 days, bricked it and got an Evo LTE. It did seem a little faster operating the SGIII, the screen seemed a tad bit bigger, and I kinda miss the little touchwiz "shortcuts." But the Evo feels more sturdy and I had to have the kickstand. As of right now, the SGIII is easier to root but I found Fox fi for my tethering fix and I'll play with some of these launchers on the market til a new root for the Evo comes out.
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TBH, a lot of what I heard supports SGIII.
Get it, dont worry about unlocking/rooting. Slap a AOSP Rom on or go with TouchWhiz (which people tend to be liking more than Sense it seems). Then also have the option of swapping an extra battery if you so desire. I dont know, this thread just gave me more questions. I feel even more on the fence.
I do appreciate all the HONEST feedback though. This is exactly what I wanted. TBH, I may just keep the EVO 3D a little longer than anticipated and see how things play out. I dont need the extra CPU power necessarily and I wont be gaining LTE. My 3VO is just how I like it now too...
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TBH, a lot of what I heard supports SGIII.
Get it, dont worry about unlocking/rooting. Slap a AOSP Rom on or go with TouchWhiz (which people tend to be liking more than Sense it seems). Then also have the option of swapping an extra battery if you so desire. I dont know, this thread just gave me more questions. I feel even more on the fence.
I do appreciate all the HONEST feedback though. This is exactly what I wanted. TBH, I may just keep the EVO 3D a little longer than anticipated and see how things play out. I dont need the extra CPU power necessarily and I wont be gaining LTE. My 3VO is just how I like it now too...
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That's what I would do, just hang on to what you have and see what's coming out
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Nope, would not even come close to considering a S3. Fixed battery is not even close to being any issue at all. Love this phone.
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Loved my rooted
S-off EVO, if I was to pick one up lately without S-off then i don't think I'll love it as much. Right now I have one upgrade available, my choice right now is wait for the iPhone 5, yes that's right. Been a long time android but absolutely loved my jailbreak iPad 3, so I know my next upgrade will be the latest iPhone.
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Loved my rooted
S-off EVO, if I was to pick one up lately without S-off then i don't think I'll love it as much. Right now I have one upgrade available, my choice right now is wait for the iPhone 5, yes that's right. Been a long time android but absolutely loved my jailbreak iPad 3, so I know my next upgrade will be the latest iPhone.
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What is this treachery!? You should be tarred and feathered, good sir!
Lol at getting the iPhone.
No buyers remorse here. Love my s-off ltevo. The galaxy s3 was not even on my top list for upgrades. Screw that
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I am S-ON evo, but I don't mind it, just got to be a little bit more careful and certain things take more steps. And sooner or later, there will most likely be more S-On peeps anyways, so even more support for them...
So been honestly thinking if JB takes til next yr which is pretty much when the new HTC will come out to get to the EVO this will be my last HTC device, I really love HTC and have been with them since the touch pro. Howeva the build quality has seemed to go up immensely. And yet the software quality has dropped. I can honestly say that I have had progressively more n more trouble out of the phones from the OG EVO up. Not to mention how we have to wait so long to get a update. Especially when that update was known and out on a few devices b4 our were released, then they can't tell us if or when we will get it. I mean really even phones released after ours have been verified to be getting it and yet we wait. I'm sry but I have bought my phones off contract and if I'm spending $850 plus for a device I don't want it to be obsolete the day I get it. Some people will argue that ics is not obsolete. But look how long its been out. And key lime pie is Otw. So we are almost 2 os's behind. And they get to select who gets upgrades and when? Didn't I pay them? If HTC don't pick it up I'm afraid my next phone will be the galaxy s4 anyone else feel this way or not chime in I wanna hear thoughts on this situation!
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So been honestly thinking if JB takes til next yr which is pretty much when the new HTC will come out to get to the EVO this will be my last HTC device, I really love HTC and have been with them since the touch pro. Howeva the build quality has seemed to go up immensely. And yet the software quality has dropped. I can honestly say that I have had progressively more n more trouble out of the phones from the OG EVO up. Not to mention how we have to wait so long to get a update. Especially when that update was known and out on a few devices b4 our were released, then they can't tell us if or when we will get it. I mean really even phones released after ours have been verified to be getting it and yet we wait. I'm sry but I have bought my phones off contract and if I'm spending $850 plus for a device I don't want it to be obsolete the day I get it. Some people will argue that ics is not obsolete. But look how long its been out. And key lime pie is Otw. So we are almost 2 os's behind. And they get to select who gets upgrades and when? Didn't I pay them? If HTC don't pick it up I'm afraid my next phone will be the galaxy s4 anyone else feel this way or not chime in I wanna hear thoughts on this situation!
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I'm honestly not sure this has much to do with HTC. They intend on getting other One X variants JB at some time this month, which could be a positive sign for the EVO LTE, but it all lies in Sprint's hands, ultimately. That's who you should be pointing your finger at.
I agree totally. With HTC's recent earnings miss, I don't see why they can't see their current "support model" isn't working. If it weren't for the dev's here, I'd be even more pissed. HTC needs to embrace the developers as opposed to working against them by not actively releasing updates for a product that they sold me on. I've stuck with HTC devices since my old HTC Mogul but I'm starting to feel the same way. HTC needs to get their **** together or they'll lose a community of people that have helped keep them relevant over the past 5-7 years.
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So been honestly thinking if JB takes til next yr which is pretty much when the new HTC will come out to get to the EVO this will be my last HTC device, I really love HTC and have been with them since the touch pro. Howeva the build quality has seemed to go up immensely. And yet the software quality has dropped. I can honestly say that I have had progressively more n more trouble out of the phones from the OG EVO up. Not to mention how we have to wait so long to get a update. Especially when that update was known and out on a few devices b4 our were released, then they can't tell us if or when we will get it. I mean really even phones released after ours have been verified to be getting it and yet we wait. I'm sry but I have bought my phones off contract and if I'm spending $850 plus for a device I don't want it to be obsolete the day I get it. Some people will argue that ics is not obsolete. But look how long its been out. And key lime pie is Otw. So we are almost 2 os's behind. And they get to select who gets upgrades and when? Didn't I pay them? If HTC don't pick it up I'm afraid my next phone will be the galaxy s4 anyone else feel this way or not chime in I wanna hear thoughts on this situation!
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I'm honestly not sure this has much to do with HTC. They intend on getting other One X variants JB at some time this month, which could be a positive sign for the EVO LTE, but it all lies in Sprint's hands, ultimately. That's who you should be pointing your finger at.
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Everyone says sprint sprint sprint but is it not the manufacturer's that say what device they wanna tweak the os for? Besides if it was sprint that was delaying it why would the s3 already be confirmed to be getting the jelly bean update? HTC says they don't know if they will be updating it. And Idt sprint would hurt their own pockets like that. 2 have 2 flagship phones on the latest os faster and far less problems they would/should be jizzin in their pants for that chance.
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I'm honestly not sure this has much to do with HTC. They intend on getting other One X variants JB at some time this month, which could be a positive sign for the EVO LTE, but it all lies in Sprint's hands, ultimately. That's who you should be pointing your finger at.
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Sprint can't work on getting updates out if HTC hasn't given them anything to work with. I point my finger at both of them. A phone that's behind in updates on a network that's behind can destroy what little patience people have left.
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I agree totally. With HTC's recent earnings miss, I don't see why they can't see their current "support model" isn't working. If it weren't for the dev's here, I'd be even more pissed. HTC needs to embrace the developers as opposed to working against them by not actively releasing updates for a product that they sold me on. I've stuck with HTC devices since my old HTC Mogul but I'm starting to feel the same way. HTC needs to get their **** together or they'll lose a community of people that have helped keep them relevant over the past 5-7 years.
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U hit the nail on the head! Totally agree 1000%
I payed more for my phone than I did my laptop or tablet. Yet they get updates damn near everyday. And if android is open source I should be ableto get the updates on anyphone that runs Android as long as the specs are up to par for free correct. Just like linux. So y do they get to choose what we get so they can make money. I mean we do it here. So y can't they. Lol sry just rantin clearin my chest.
Me and the wife love HTC but we both agreed that even though we dislike the build quality of Samsung it may be our next phone just because things get updated and fixed a lot more frequently. Besides our phones stay deep inside great looking cases so how much does build quality mean to us anyway.
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Sprint can't work on getting updates out if HTC hasn't given them anything to work with. I point my finger at both of them. A phone that's behind in updates on a network that's behind can destroy what little patience people have left.
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The update comes from HTC pending a request from Sprint. If Sprint doesn't request it, it will never come. Once Sprint receives it, they add all of their bloat and send it for testing. After that, you already know what happens.
Either way, I am hoping for an HTC Nexus device based on all these multi-OEM Nexus rumors.
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The update comes from HTC pending a request from Sprint. If Sprint doesn't request it, it will never come. Once Sprint receives it, they add all of their bloat and send it for testing. After that, you already know what happens.
Either way, I am hoping for an HTC Nexus device based on all these multi-OEM Nexus rumors.
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Point taken. Bottom line is that "we" the customer, gets screwed. I would find it hard to believe that HTC and Sprint both "don't know" what people want. HTC makes great phones and the developers help us love them. Developers maximize the potential of our devices but if they're not getting what they need, it's a moot point and I'll probably leave Sprint and HTC altogether when I'm due for an upgrade. I'm sure I'm not the only one either. Patience only goes so far.
Not to mention still can't have caller id tones since last update n they can't fix that. Bs and I don't wanna switch roms cuz something always never works in roms.
have to admit if it wasn't for custom roms and the hard work of devs here I would have tossed this phone by now.
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Having been an android owner for the last three years (and an evo owner for the last 2), I've gotten used to the slower updates. It's always been explained away by saying that first HTC has to produce an update, then Sprint has to tweak the update, before we ever get the OTA. I know it's not a solution to the problem presented in the OP, but has anyone noticed that we have fantastic devs for this phone? The roms, kernels, and tweaks are not only being produced on a daily basis, but are frequently updated and provided with fantastic support. I can live with slow manufacture and provider updates as long we continue to have great devs.
Yes, but in a different way. I will not be purchasing another HTC product ever due to their slow update roll outs as well as their locking of the boot loaders. While they finally relented and let people unlock their bootloaders through their website, their previous and current stance on the issue is unacceptable to me.
You got robbed if you paid $850 for the phone, lol.
Everyone always thinks the grass is greener someplace else. If you're not happy with sprint then go somewhere else.
But just know that the verizon Gnex, a Google phone, didn't get the JB update for 2 months after it was released on GSM phones.
Also I don't think KLP has been released yet.
Naters
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KLP isn't out yet. I never said i was leaving sprint just may leave HTC. for me sprint is the best deal besides pre-paid. if pre-paid got the hottest phones as well. I think the big 3 would be outta biz or would have to lower prices to compete. lol
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Everyone always thinks the grass is greener someplace else. If you're not happy with sprint then go somewhere else.
But just know that the verizon Gnex, a Google phone, didn't get the JB update for 2 months after it was released on GSM phones.
Also I don't think KLP has been released yet.
Naters
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You got robbed if you paid $850 for the phone, lol.
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not really that is what they run off contract. bout $800 plus tax
this phone will probably be the last HTC phone I purchase... unless they change their policy on source and start to release it to dev's faster... it seems like there is a lot more activity for the S3....
If I get another HTC device it will be a nexus. If they dont make a nexus device im not getting it. I love htc build quality, it feels like a real device in my hand, but the lack of updates really turns me off.
Sorry to hear you paid $850 for this mech.. got mine free without upgrading because the 3ds were on backorder when mine broke... and i got that free also...
So I have been thinking about what to new when I can get a new phone which should be able to happen in the next couple months. While I have like the 3D, I think it was a mistake to get something so different. None of the problems are because of the devs which have been great as always and I have been impressed at what has been done with as many problems as they have run into. So to end my monologue, I was hoping to get some advice from people with knowledge.
Lets pretend that every phone company had a phone that was exactly alike. Same specs, same look, same everything. Everything that is except the stuff that makes the companies different. So HTC has Sense on the phone. Samsung has touchwiz Etc. Who would you buy this phone from and why?
Basically trying to find out if there is one company that is easier to build ROMs for or if there is something one company does better than another. I have been on HTC since the Hero days and at one point loved Sense. Now though I feel Android has caught up with Sense in the overall function and feel of the phone. But I am still torn. If I leave Sense, there is no getting to try it out again later. But I also have never really used Touchwiz enough to know if there is something I am missing.
Maybe this turns into nothing of a question and it ends up being stupid that I asked it here. But what I am hoping is that I will learn something new about who actually makes the best phones to root.
I guess I should add. I realize I could possibly go the route of a Nexus but again I would be left with only vanilla Android. No chance to try Sense or something different. Is it worth going the Nexus route for all the ease that it will probably have but with no chance of a different look?
That's where I'm heading.
I'm done with HTC and their lack of support.
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That's where I'm heading.
I'm done with HTC and their lack of support.
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Yeah, after having the Pre before the 3VO, I'm wondering if I should go the Nexus route, too. It's the only thing that seems supported for the length of a contract. That's what gets me the most. If you buy a phone at release date, there should be FULL support (updates, etc) for the length of your contract, or at least have the knowledge of when support is expected to end. So where the M7 is looking promising, will it turn into a Pre or a 3VO? So now I don't know what to with my APR upgrade...
Same here been with HTC since the Hero. I think I am going to part ways though, doesn't seem to me that HTC is doing anything innovative or ground shattering for me to stay with them.
I'm probably going to upgrade to the Galaxy S4 when its released just to try something else.
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I was hanging out for a Galaxy S4 until I heard that the release date had been postponed to interfere with the iphone 5s sales.
I'll get a 200 dollar Taiwanese 5 incher while they're playing gods.
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I was thinking about Samsung but I didn't know if they were any better than HTC at releasing code. The SG4 will be interesting but the Note 2 is also very intriguing.
Nexus seems the safe route but doesn't seem to have the excitement surrounding it.
I'm going to upgrade to the HTC One (M7)
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I'm going to upgrade to the HTC One (M7)
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That's probably what I'll wind up doing. I love Sense. The size of the One is probably the max I want to carry around. A Note is like carrying a tablet in your pocket <insert joke here :laugh: > For some, that's cool, but after TWO digitzer replacements, I gotta be careful. Only other thing on the radar right now, for me, is the Optimus G, and I don't know a thing about its UI...
I don't know what's next for me but unless Sprint drastically upgrades their network in the next couple months then my next phone definitely won't be written Sprint.
Wimax is almost worthless these days. I can't hold a Wimax signal, even sitting at my desk. My city still hasn't even been mentioned for Sprint's LTE, and Sprint's 3G is not even usable around here.
So whatever my next phone turns out to be, it will probably be on T-Mobile this summer.
I'm pretty much done with HTC too. After getting screwed with this locked down Evo 3d that they refuse to support, I'm not buying another HTC phone. I'm either going with Samsung, LG, or Motorola.
There are way too many launchers out there for anyone to be worried about Sense or Touchwiz or whatever.
I have too talked with my parents about carrier switching. Sprint is nice, but... eh. If I stay, GNEX is the only way to go, if I leave, it'll be to T-Mobile and I'll be getting either a Gnex or a Sony Device, both great deving supporters.!
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