Hi,
I've got a few questions regarding unlocking root access for the S III.
- From my understanding so far, to enable root on the device would mean putting on completely custom firmware?
- If I need to return my Galaxy under warranty are Samsung going to go nuts if I have root access enabled?
- How am I able to return the phone back to it's previous state before root access was enabled? Does it involve going through a similar process when unlocking the phone for root access? Or is it as simple as going into a recovery mode and selecting some sort of reset/factory reset option?
- Would future Android updates be affected by enabling root access?
- Will updates from Android revert root access each time they are installed?
- Besides any answers you have listed above, are there any minor/major negatives to enabling root access?
Thanks
Redaccount said:
Hi,
I've got a few questions regarding unlocking root access for the S III.
- From my understanding so far, to enable root on the device would mean putting on completely custom firmware?
- If I need to return my Galaxy under warranty are Samsung going to go nuts if I have root access enabled?
- How am I able to return the phone back to it's previous state before root access was enabled? Does it involve going through a similar process when unlocking the phone for root access? Or is it as simple as going into a recovery mode and selecting some sort of reset/factory reset option?
- Would future Android updates be affected by enabling root access?
- Will updates from Android revert root access each time they are installed?
- Besides any answers you have listed above, are there any minor/major negatives to enabling root access?
Thanks
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1) no, you can also have root with stock firmware
2) yes they will go nuts, hence you have to unroot & flash back an original firmware to also get the "original" state and not "modified"
3) flash a normal stock rom, you will loose root access
4) yes they will be affected as your device is "modified", anyway you will be able to install them via Odin or Mobile Odin from sammobile.com
5) yes, you will loose root when flashing a new firmware, or you have to use Mobile Odin which roots during the flashing process
6) first start: read the stickies and if you are not sure why you need root, don't do it!
Redaccount said:
Hi,
I've got a few questions regarding unlocking root access for the S III.
- From my understanding so far, to enable root on the device would mean putting on completely custom firmware?
- If I need to return my Galaxy under warranty are Samsung going to go nuts if I have root access enabled?
- How am I able to return the phone back to it's previous state before root access was enabled? Does it involve going through a similar process when unlocking the phone for root access? Or is it as simple as going into a recovery mode and selecting some sort of reset/factory reset option?
- Would future Android updates be affected by enabling root access?
- Will updates from Android revert root access each time they are installed?
- Besides any answers you have listed above, are there any minor/major negatives to enabling root access?
Thanks
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If you intend to Themeing and dual booting then you can root if not you don't have too.
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hi i recently updated my s2 to KE7 firmware but didnt root it. do i have to root it too? i have a sim free version..
siddie80 said:
hi i recently updated my s2 to KE7 firmware but didnt root it. do i have to root it too? i have a sim free version..
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if u have official version - updated via KIES u dont need to root the device at all. root is here to open new options...but u cant go wrong with the stock setup mate.
Root is a method of opening up the operating system at a deeper level .
As rooting voids warranty dont bother unless you need it .
1.What is root/rooting?
root is the user account in Linux with all privileges. The root user can edit anything on the system. For safety reasons, users do not have all those privileges. When you root your phone, you will gain write access to areas of the phone you couldn't previously access and are allowed to run more commands in the terminal. Because applications do not get a lot of priviledges, some of them require you to root the device in order for them to function properly (or fully).
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Hello guys
Hope i'm posting this in right section, took me almost 10 mins to find how and where to post :crying:
I have done some surfing & got many question, will be thankful if some one can answer all this
1. What is the use of root? will this break warranty?
2. How to remove default apps from zenfone 5? cuz some are not good and i don't wan't them
3. Do i need to change kernal if i change/update firmware via update feature of phone.
4. If i root my phone and unroot it, then is they any way that service center guys can know that this phone was rooted before?
Thanks
Lalit_Agarwal said:
Hello guys
Hope i'm posting this in right section, took me almost 10 mins to find how and where to post :crying:
I have done some surfing & got many question, will be thankful if some one can answer all this
1. What is the use of root? will this break warranty?
2. How to remove default apps from zenfone 5? cuz some are not good and i don't wan't them
3. Do i need to change kernal if i change/update firmware via update feature of phone.
4. If i root my phone and unroot it, then is they any way that service center guys can know that this phone was rooted before?
Thanks
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1. root is full access to modify the system partition on your device - yes it will void warrenty
2. you need root access and go to system/app or system/priv-app and delete them via root explorer then reboot device
3. yes, kernel needs to be compatible with firmware
4. they typically know if the phone was rooted by looking at the bootloader, before rooting most devices you need to unlock the boot loader first. this leaves a tampered flag in the bootloader
toolhas4degrees said:
1. root is full access to modify the system partition on your device - yes it will void warrenty
2. you need root access and go to system/app or system/priv-app and delete them via root explorer then reboot device
3. yes, kernel needs to be compatible with firmware
4. they typically know if the phone was rooted by looking at the bootloader, before rooting most devices you need to unlock the boot loader first. this leaves a tampered flag in the bootloader
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If we update via in-build update feature then how it updates the kernal? does it come in firmware?
Can't we re-lock the boot loader?
Lalit_Agarwal said:
If we update via in-build update feature then how it updates the kernal? does it come in firmware?
Can't we re-lock the boot loader?
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you could, but in htc for example it says relocked instead of locked.
in stock rom yes kernel is in built in ota update with firmware.
toolhas4degrees said:
you could, but in htc for example it says relocked instead of locked.
in stock rom yes kernel is in built in ota update with firmware.
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Any idea if this happens in Zenfone 5 too?
Thanks
1 more question
should i root my asus zenfone 5?
almost all my problem can be solved via rooting but i'm little worried & confused.
Lalit_Agarwal said:
1 more question
should i root my asus zenfone 5?
almost all my problem can be solved via rooting but i'm little worried & confused.
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I can't answer that for you. if you are unclear about rooting process ask in a zenfone general thread since i do not have the phone, and it does void the warranty
I need to root my Galaxy Alpha to edit just one system file, and then unroot it so I can still use apps that don't work on rooted phones. It seems like rooting is not a problem, however I couldn't find any information on the internet on how to unroot a phone that has CF-Auto-Root applied. Can it be done?
Or alternatively, is there a way to gain root access only on adb so I can edit the file this way? Temporary custom recovery maybe?
By the way, tripping the knox flag, losing warranty etc. is absolutely fine by me.
I started to think about rooting my g960f, it is a week year old device and the ads in apps annoys me so much. I will be using root to disable bixby through root uninstaller, if you have any other suggestions please tell. also I will be using mother of adblock, if you have any other suggestions please tell. I still have some questions.
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
I wont be installing custom rom as I already liked the stock rom but it needs some modification. I am sure that most of the people has the same questions in their minds so your answers would help many.
Pandemicc said:
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
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As long as all you did was root the phone and did not change the OS to a custom one you should be able to get OTA updates. You should be able to install OTA updates normally, but you will loose the root install and have to do it again. Since OTA updates may patch any exploits a root install tool may use you might not be able to root the phone again (at least not until the root utility is updated to use a different method) after an update, so keep that in mind.
Pandemicc said:
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
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Once you root you might very well trip Knox. If Knox is tripped Samsung Pay, Secure folders is what I can find Google Searching and searching the forum here as what wouldn't work Samsung app wise. S-Health would also stop working, but I've read about potential ways to make S-health work again. I am not sure if those ways still work or not.
Other apps (financial, etc) may not work if the phone is rooted..
Pandemicc said:
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
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Sort of... Knox secure apps like S-health, Secure Folders, Samsung Pay will not work. Once you trip knox they will not work on the device ever again. This is because once knox is tripped it is tripped, it's a hardware e-fuse. You can not fix it nor reset it.
Other apps that just detected whether root is installed (or being used) should return to normal
thank you so much for the reply, lastly do you any suggestion for rooting? like the best way of doing it or use this guide and such.
Why root the device? You can use Adhell3 and block all the ads using knox itself
Pandemicc said:
thank you so much for the reply, lastly do you any suggestion for rooting? like the best way of doing it or use this guide and such.
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Personally I don't have a suggestion on a root method for your phone, but I do suggest you do some research on the subject. You can also look in the Galaxy S9 topic on XDA as that is the model you said you were using (G960F). In all honesty your gonna want to read up on what the process entails, what issues you might encounter and the risks involved... This is kind of a one way trip (metaphorically and essentially literally speaking) because if you trip knox (which you most likely will) you will void any warranty as well as permanently loose rather useful functionality on the phone (Samsung pay does come in handy IMHO). Not to mention root weakens the security of the phone and if your not careful you could (not saying you will, but could) run into a lot of problems.
Granted I am not saying you shouldn't root your phone but I am suggesting that in your case there is a more simpler method of doing what you want to do. Adhell3 was suggested and it's an app I use as well. Adhell3 will allow you to configure knox to do what you are seeking.. Knox can be configured to serve as a system wide ad blocking and it can be used as a way to disable apps on the phone (including bixby). There is more it can do, but I would suggest reading up on it (I can't give you all the answers, your gonna have to discover them also). Since your not trying to install an custom OS or changing cpu governors, cpu frequencies or anything Xposed related I would suggest looking into Adhell3 since that will do what you want without messing with Knox (or any potential issues with your phone from rooting). Also Adhell3 is not a permanent change to the phone, it can be fully removed, it doesn't weaken the security of the phone by allowing root access to the Android OS and file system on the phone and it will survive OTA updates.
Also if your looking to cut down on advertisements in applications I would suggest not installing as many.. Adblocking whether by hosts file or Adhell3 works by blocking the dns lookup of an advertisement. Both methods are not 100% perfect because if an advertisement comes from the same domain as where you are accessing (like facebook or Youtube sometimes do) then the advertisement will still be shown. Still to cut down on advertisements I would suggest going with Adhell3 over root.
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
Nope, that means also that once you decice to flash custom recovery your knox will be triggered 0x1 in bootloader and it cant be reversed by flashing stock.
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
Most devs here release latest build of their ROMs based on the latest security patches from official stock ROMs. You can just dirty flash the latest build over the previous one.
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
Samsung pay and secure folder. However you can try google pay as an alternative and you can use MagiskHide to make apps work even if the phone is rooted.
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
You can go back to stock, but you wont be able to use the features mentioned above. It's a one way irreversible process.
KevAngelo14 said:
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
Nope, that means also that once you decice to flash custom recovery your knox will be triggered 0x1 in bootloader and it cant be reversed by flashing stock.
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
Most devs here release latest build of their ROMs based on the latest security patches from official stock ROMs. You can just dirty flash the latest build over the previous one.
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
Samsung pay and secure folder. However you can try google pay as an alternative and you can use MagiskHide to make apps work even if the phone is rooted.
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
You can go back to stock, but you wont be able to use the features mentioned above. It's a one way irreversible process.
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Remember to include Xprivacylua to inhibit apps from seeing what apps you have installed. Have helped me out using bank apps as well
I have a Smasung S9 Plus SM-g965F with Exynos on android 10, I would need to get root but I would like to avoid to install TWRP recovery, can I do it with the stock recovery?
Thanks.
light767 said:
I have a Smasung S9 Plus SM-g965F with Exynos on android 10, I would need to get root but I would like to avoid to install TWRP recovery, can I do it with the stock recovery?
Thanks.
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you can't use stock recovery you will need twrp
If you want to install magisk without twrp use the patch method
I have tried kingroot with no success it get stuck at 1%.
If I use magisk by patching the stock rom, then when an official samsung update comes out I can do it automatically as always?
By the way how can I check if the bootloader of my phone is unlocked ?
light767 said:
I have tried kingroot with no success it get stuck at 1%.
If I use magisk by patching the stock rom, then when an official samsung update comes out I can do it automatically as always?
By the way how can I check if the bootloader of my phone is unlocked ?
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In develop section check to see if unlock option is there.
Download mode will tell you OEM state as well as KG/RMM state
If you modify your phone you won't get updates. Have to do manually.
Be aware rooting you phone will trip your knox. Won't be able to use knox related functions like secure folder,samsung pass, shealth etc.
spawnlives said:
In develop section check to see if unlock option is there.
Download mode will tell you OEM state as well as KG/RMM state
If you modify your phone you won't get updates. Have to do manually.
Be aware rooting you phone will trip your knox. Won't be able to use knox related functions like secure folder,samsung pass, shealth etc.
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ACtually I need root to try to recover some files on the internal memory with some data recovery programs...after that I don't need root anymore so maybe I could go back to full stock?
light767 said:
ACtually I need root to try to recover some files on the internal memory with some data recovery programs...after that I don't need root anymore so maybe I could go back to full stock?
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Once your modified phone knox will be tripped even when flash firmware again. There is no fix for a tripped knox.
If trying to recover lost files then using the patched method with magisk is a better option then using twrp.
I don't have much experience with recovering lost files as i have not had the need for it but i would try some non root methods first before rooting.
If you decide to root your phone you can unroot by magisk or flashing stock firmware.
Always backup your phone before doing anything.
Sadly all these program (one of the most famous is Dr. Fone) that go scanning the memory for deleted files need the privileges of root so I think that without rooting the phone it's not possible to do it anyway if I would lost the knox securty by rooting I'm not that happy too
"You may try looking into Extreme Syndicate root. It's used on the Snapdragon variants to root with a locked bootloader, so it doesn't trip Knox. I don't know if it will work on Exynos, but worth a look."
Editing doesn't work right on my phone. This won't work.