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do you have phone insurance?
Oh duuuude...
you should definitely call t-mobile and tell them. they can lock the phone by tracking your IMEI or something, rendering the phone useless (that is, if the guy isn't a tech wizard). As for getting a new phone, if your insurance covers it, then you should ask them for one. I doubt it, though, because every time I wanted a replacement phone, I had to send them my old one.
they may not be able to locate your phone w/o the sim card in there. if you have the box with the imei or ssid number, that would be your best bet.
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sure, by buying one...there is no way to get a replacement without insurance....and even with insurance you had to pay $130...
emonero said:
sure, by buying one...there is no way to get a replacement without insurance....and even with insurance you had to pay $130...
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oh wait, I thought it is free for getting a new one with insurance
climhazzard1993 said:
this sounds stupid but i was using my phone as an ipod for a month or so (it didnt have the sim card because my parents took it away cuz i got grounded) and some @!#$ stole it in the locker room.. sdfgjhas.. now what do i do? do i tell t-mobile my phone got stolen? or will i have to buy a new one?
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First of all, you shouldn't use language like that, I'm reffering to F word you used. That word is derogatory, homophobic, and not appropriate.
Anyway, tell your parents, and notify the school.
If you have insurance, notify Assurion insurance (130 deductable).
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i dont have insurance.. so i guess im screwed? is there any way i can get a replacement?
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Without insurance, if you came to my store or called CARE we would be able to see how long it's been since you purchased your Vibrant. You would probably get a very minor discount, if any. You're pretty much close to buying one outright so it's best not to use any kind of early upgrade unless it's a good deal.
As for blocking an IMEI, I don't know why people continue to suggest this. I have never been able to call in an get a phone blacklisted or blocked after it's been stolen. Maybe they just don't like me or I'm calling the wrong people.
Some ideas for your next Android. On our store demos we either install Lookout or SmrtGuard. Lookout seems to be the better of the two apps because you can remote activate GPS and track the phone. However, with SmrtGuard you can setup SIM Guardian that will register your SIM and when someone inserts another into the phone the phone will send a text to a number you assign or an e-mail. You can also track with GPS by this app.
Again, I've never been able to get T-Mobile to track a phone for a customer just because of theft. It has to be a serious crime with the police involved.
I'm sorry to heard about your lost phone and I hope you can get a replacement.
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Without insurance, if you came to my store or called CARE we would be able to see how long it's been since you purchased your Vibrant. You would probably get a very minor discount, if any. You're pretty much close to buying one outright so it's best not to use any kind of early upgrade unless it's a good deal.
As for blocking an IMEI, I don't know why people continue to suggest this. I have never been able to call in an get a phone blacklisted or blocked after it's been stolen. Maybe they just don't like me or I'm calling the wrong people.
Some ideas for your next Android. On our store demos we either install Lookout or SmrtGuard. Lookout seems to be the better of the two apps because you can remote activate GPS and track the phone. However, with SmrtGuard you can setup SIM Guardian that will register your SIM and when someone inserts another into the phone the phone will send a text to a number you assign or an e-mail. You can also track with GPS by this app.
Again, I've never been able to get T-Mobile to track a phone for a customer just because of theft. It has to be a serious crime with the police involved.
I'm sorry to heard about your lost phone and I hope you can get a replacement.
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your right, T-Mobile won't blacklist an IMEI. I don't think any North America carrier will.
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they may not be able to locate your phone w/o the sim card in there. if you have the box with the imei or ssid number, that would be your best bet.
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T-Mobile doesn't track phones without a court order, and u wont get that unless you were robbed beaten up and probably almost killed.
Its the thieves phone now welcome to GSM.
130 deductible to get a replacement. Call assurion for that.
Happened to me, BTW. You're sol and nothing anyone else says here that is different has a chance of being true.
Tell assurion u lost it, cause for stolen phone they require a police report (no the cops will not try to find ur phone, either)...
Cdma carriers block esn. GSM carriers make more money. With phones being easily factory resettable you have to tether yourself to a GSM phone to avoid getting pwnd.
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i dont have insurance.. so i guess im screwed? is there any way i can get a replacement?
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LOL. Oh, no insurance. Guessed saving six a month paid off eh?
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Homophobic?
Rotfl... seriously just stop. Nothing derogatory about using that term to refer to a thief...
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First of all, you shouldn't use language like that, I'm reffering to F word you used. That word is derogatory, homophobic, and not appropriate.
Anyway, tell your parents, and notify the school.
If you have insurance, notify Assurion insurance (130 deductable).
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Ur SOL son. Next time watch ur stuff more closely. FYI there an app called Kor.im phone locator that will send u an email if ur another sim card is put into u r phone. The email will contain the new sim cards serial number which will help track down who has ur phone. That is if they don't reset the phone, erasing the app in the process.
Sent from THE Vibrant......
Criminals return to the scene of the crime. Let him steal something traceable. lol
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Ur SOL son. Next time watch ur stuff more closely. FYI there an app called Kor.im phone locator that will send u an email if ur another sim card is put into u r phone. The email will contain the new sim cards serial number which will help track down who has ur phone. That is if they don't reset the phone, erasing the app in the process.
Sent from THE Vibrant......
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Anyone with a brain will factory reset before they put a sim in the phone, and most security apparently run on the phone with obvious notification bar icons visible.
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Anyone with a brain will factory reset before they put a sim in the phone, and most security apparently run on the phone with obvious notification bar icons visible.
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Then he should just put that app in system/app.. Most people that steal phones don't know how to wipe it completely.. they just know how to factory reset lol
But to the Op.. yeah you are SOL w/o insurance lol
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Homophobic?
Rotfl... seriously just stop. Nothing derogatory about using that term to refer to a thief...
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Yes that word is offensive, even if using it towards a thief, it is still offensive. You don't have to be gay to take offense, you just have to have common sense. I don't like that word just as much as I don't like the N word.
I'm sure there are Android users from the LGBT community who use this forum, and they don't need to log on and see the F word.
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Then he should just put that app in system/app.. Most people that steal phones don't know how to wipe it completely.. they just know how to factory reset lol
But to the Op.. yeah you are SOL w/o insurance lol
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That doesn't matter. The factory reset option in Android is too easy to get to, and too easy to perform. It isn't even password-protected. The 3 button method can be done 5 minutes after swiping the phone on the way to the local library to list it for sale on CraigsList.
The only way to make sure someone can't profit/benefit from stealing your phone is to not use a GSM carrier in the United States. Use a CDMA carrier.
The companies care more about their bottom line than what's right. I had this argument with Assurion and T-Mobile when my phone got stolen.
Even with a pattery lock on the phone, unless it's a hardware locked phone it only takes 5 seconds for them to completely wipe the phone clean, pop their SIM card in, and brag about the new phone they got for Christmas.
9/10 the phone ends up getting sold, though.
The carriers are more than able to blacklist the IMEIs, but without inter-carrier cooperation that is kind of useless.
So wait a minute. I can lose my vibrant, and I can report it lost and T-Mobile nor Assurion will block the IMEI? Someone on T-Mobile can find my phone, put in their SIM card, and T-Mobile will do nothing? They won't block the phone? They won't even call the person who is using my phone and kindly ask them to return it?
Well I don't really know why I'm asking, I already know the answer. I've lost a T-Mobile phone before, and they admited someone was using my phone, but they said they couldn't do anything about it for me, not even a courtesy call asking the finder to return it.
T-mobile has a record of every single sim card that has ever been placed into a phone. Even if you stick your sim card in there for 5 seconds, as long as it registers on the network, they keep the sim info documented.
It just shocks me, even at a customers request, that they wouldn't block the IMEI number on their own network.
I've read today that all Android phones (and others) have Carrier IQ installed in them at the factory to that is capable of transmitting keystrokes, website visits, email and SMS data to the carrier.
My questions is, Can we build a ROM without it? Below is the link referring to the software.
Thanks.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-5...ets-secretly-logging-keystrokes-sms-messages/
With all of your reading you forgot to read the multiple threads in this forum about this.
No our phones don't have it right now so no we can not remove it.
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I've read today that all Android phones (and others) have Carrier IQ installed in them at the factory to that is capable of transmitting keystrokes, website visits, email and SMS data to the carrier.
My questions is, Can we build a ROM without it? Below is the link referring to the software.
Thanks.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-5...ets-secretly-logging-keystrokes-sms-messages/
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Whoever told you all android phones had it was an idiot. Only some of them do - nearly all Sprint units, only newer AT&T units like the ****rocket and the Gingerbread updates for Infuse do.
(Probably Cappy GB has it and future updates for ours might.)
From what I understand, it doesn't send anything out of phones that have it installed, it just echoes data to the debug console.
Do you really think att needs that software to know your physical location? Does att need that to read your SMS? Know what numbers you dial?
Att could probably easily identify if you tether, or load a custom ROM on your phone. Its a matter of priority, and whether its worth the effort. Everything you do on your phone runs through their services. They know everything.
A program like that may make it easier for them to get the data, but I doubt it gives them any information that they couldn't get themselves if they really wanted it.
I don't see the big deal about it. What do I care if att knows where I am, who I call, and what I text, they already know all that. If att collecting data about how I use my phone leads to a better optimised data network, or better coverage then go for it.
What's next? People upset that google may be reading your Gmail? Or Comcast knowing what you watch on TV? Your credit card company knowing where you shop?
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quarlow said:
Do you really think att needs that software to know your physical location? Does att need that to read your SMS? Know what numbers you dial?
Att could probably easily identify if you tether, or load a custom ROM on your phone. Its a matter of priority, and whether its worth the effort. Everything you do on your phone runs through their services. They know everything.
A program like that may make it easier for them to get the data, but I doubt it gives them any information that they couldn't get themselves if they really wanted it.
I don't see the big deal about it. What do I care if att knows where I am, who I call, and what I text, they already know all that. If att collecting data about how I use my phone leads to a better optimised data network, or better coverage then go for it.
What's next? People upset that google may be reading your Gmail? Or Comcast knowing what you watch on TV? Your credit card company knowing where you shop?
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Said like a true lamb... lol
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Said like a true lamb... lol
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By call means, enlighten me.
How should the system work? How do they deliver your message if they don't know what to send? How do they connect your call if they don't know what you dialed? How do they send you a website without knowing the web address you input? How do they route a call to you if they don't know what towers you are connected to, and where those towers are?
My point is that people are up in arms because att has has access to data that you give them on a daily basis. They need that data to serve you as a customer.
Nothing you do on the internet, or using wireless networks will ever be truly private. The only thing changing here is how the data is collected, not whether the data is collected.
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quarlow said:
By call means, enlighten me.
How should the system work? How do they deliver your message if they don't know what to send? How do they connect your call if they don't know what you dialed? How do they send you a website without knowing the web address you input? How do they route a call to you if they don't know what towers you are connected to, and where those towers are?
My point is that people are up in arms because att has has access to data that you give them on a daily basis. They need that data to serve you as a customer.
Nothing you do on the internet, or using wireless networks will ever be truly private. The only thing changing here is how the data is collected, not whether the data is collected.
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Very well said.
I can't really post a link but it seems like it has access to more than just your general txt/call/web data
From what I read in an article from Huffingtonpost.com
"The application, which is labeled on Eckhart’s HTC smartphone as "HTC IQ Agent," also logs the URL of websites searched on the phone, even if the user intends to encrypt that data using a URL that begins with "HTTPS," Eckhart said."
and from electronista.com
"The video also shows that the software records keystrokes. It likewise records calls with network strength values, which primarily allows carriers to fix problems but could also be used to intercept data. CarrierIQ is also collecting keystrokes of incompleted calls and even random keystrokes, or more than it needs
When using Wi-Fi, CarrierIQ records website security information, including URL and even passwords sent over the ostensibly secure HTTPS. This doesn't involve Sprint, as it's on Wi-Fi, so it shouldn't be recorded, Holly concludes."
In my opinion, it's one thing to know that a carrier obviously has access to much of this information if and when they should need it for court orders and other legal reasons. It's an entirely other thing though to specifically have software installed and intertwined into the core of the phone that has the potential to feed this information in another manner which obviously isn't explained to the end user.
I don't do anything on my phone that I wouldn't want them to see for very obvious reasons as stated above. But I would like to have at least the 'appearance' that not everything I do is going to be sifted through by AT&T or a 3rd party vendor. This type of software and the relative 'hush-hush' nature of it doesn't give me that feeling. It's like a rogue app just sitting in a dormant state waiting for AT&T or whoever to fire it up and log away.
Ok I'll end the paranoia and I don't think we have a basis to point our finger one way or the other yet, but clearly it's something I think that needs to be clarified and understood better.
Back in the olde timey days when folks just had land lines with which to communicate, the FCC made it illegal for third parties - yes, even carriers - to intercept and disclose conversations of their customers to third parties. Have we come all the way around to "let them use my personal communications as they see fit since they have it anyway?" I never thought I would see relatively sophisticated users, such as several of those contributing here, say "I do nothing wrong so I don't care who uses my data and for what purpose." Yikes.
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Back in the olde timey days when folks just had land lines with which to communicate, the FCC made it illegal for third parties - yes, even carriers - to intercept and disclose conversations of their customers to third parties. Have we come all the way around to "let them use my personal communications as they see fit since they have it anyway?" I never thought I would see relatively sophisticated users, such as several of those contributing here, say "I do nothing wrong so I don't care who uses my data and for what purpose." Yikes.
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Welcome to the Patriot act.
[Obligatory favorable statement about the Patriot Act]
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I to agree with the carriers already know EVERYTHING we do. Whether we like it or not, that's how it works. But that takes place on THEIR end.
What I don't like is not knowing if it's secure. Main reason so many people were ticked their iphone were tracking them. Most knew it could be done, but the fact it stored that info on their phone with no encryption what-so-ever.
This is on OUR end now. The more ways to access everything we do, the greater the security risk.
If I get the choice, I'm definitely getting it off my phone. But if they prove it's without doubt secure? I still don't like it, but I'd feel a whole lot better about it. So what's the chance that will happen?
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Here if yall want to know about CIQ. Good Read and good information for you to mull over. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-storm-is-not-over-yet-lets-talk-about-ciq/ Oh and MOST Devices that have this stupid thing on it that get root the first thing to get disabled is this little gem so I wouldn't worry about it too horribly much. I have seen a dev going around that strictly is going through phones that have it and removing it.
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Here if yall want to know about CIQ. Good Read and good information for you to mull over. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-storm-is-not-over-yet-lets-talk-about-ciq/ Oh and MOST Devices that have this stupid thing on it that get root the first thing to get disabled is this little gem so I wouldn't worry about it too horribly much. I have seen a dev going around that strictly is going through phones that have it and removing it.
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Good article...
Oh yea here is a link that I found over in the HTC Vivid section just in case CIQ ever does hit our device I would assume the same thing could be done to remove it from the SGSII....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370541
@Kadin
Yea good article although a bit scary when you see all this thing does.
quarlow said:
Do you really think att needs that software to know your physical location? Does att need that to read your SMS? Know what numbers you dial?
Att could probably easily identify if you tether, or load a custom ROM on your phone. Its a matter of priority, and whether its worth the effort. Everything you do on your phone runs through their services. They know everything.
A program like that may make it easier for them to get the data, but I doubt it gives them any information that they couldn't get themselves if they really wanted it.
I don't see the big deal about it. What do I care if att knows where I am, who I call, and what I text, they already know all that. If att collecting data about how I use my phone leads to a better optimised data network, or better coverage then go for it.
What's next? People upset that google may be reading your Gmail? Or Comcast knowing what you watch on TV? Your credit card company knowing where you shop?
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If the carrier can do all this already then you have to wonder why they have to put something like Carrier IQ on our phones.
Glad Sprint is taking the lead and getting rid of this!
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...s-disabling-controversial-carrier-iq-software
+1 I don't think the photon has it anyway but good stuff sprint and thanks for the link!
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kwazytazz said:
+1 I don't think the photon has it anyway but good stuff sprint and thanks for the link!
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The Photon doesn't have it, never has.
Another good reason to root and use custom ROMs
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kusanagi-sama said:
The Photon doesn't have it, never has.
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Actually, I believe that stock Photon does have it. Lookout Security has a Carrier IQ detector in the marketplace. I found Carrier IQ on my stock photon. I installed cybik's CM7 and voila, no more Carrier IQ.
I have 3 issues here, #1. Carrier IQ and Sprint are clearly lying and this guy proved it. Maybe yes, they only use the network part of it, but they are clearly collecting everything else.
#2 No one ever asked me? If you asked me, I could make a choice (I likely would not, but still.)
#2. I have all my banking information that I access and other passwords from my Photon. So any hacker with 1/2 a brain could collect the same file and act as if he were me?
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I have 3 issues here, #1. Carrier IQ and Sprint are clearly lying and this guy proved it. Maybe yes, they only use the network part of it, but they are clearly collecting everything else.
#2 No one ever asked me? If you asked me, I could make a choice (I likely would not, but still.)
#2. I have all my banking information that I access and other passwords from my Photon. So any hacker with 1/2 a brain could collect the same file and act as if he were me?
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the photon doesnt have any known version of ciq on it... seriously guys im friends with k0nane... i had him check it out... not saying there isnt some new ****.. but all current forms of ciq that are documented are not here
1) cant always believe what you see.. i mean honetsly i dont know treve.. but as a dev i respect what hes done.. but he isnt playing on alevel feild IMO.. he is using a rooted phone and he isnt looking thru ciq's logs its adb logcat which... logs everything
#2 part one P i know im sorry im a jerk) you signed sprints contract right? did you really read all the terms of service? i sure as hell didnt but how much you wanna bet there is something in teh contract that says they can do that? :O
#2 part 2 there is only 2 ways this is gunna happen.. someone has a cell tower mocked up to intercept your cell signal and catch teh packets as they pass... or.. someone has physical access to your phone... at which point its moot because from what im guessing you save all your passwords etc?
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Actually, I believe that stock Photon does have it. Lookout Security has a Carrier IQ detector in the marketplace. I found Carrier IQ on my stock photon. I installed cybik's CM7 and voila, no more Carrier IQ.
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I tested my phone with Lookout Security and the other app that tests for this. The Photon DOES NOT have Carrier IQ.
kusanagi-sama said:
I tested my phone with Lookout Security and the other app that tests for this. The Photon DOES NOT have Carrier IQ.
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Are you using a custom ROM? Unless you are on stock, you probably won't see it. The stock photon, does in fact have CIQ on it.
how about you go through init.rc and teh smali in services.jar and tell me that
trustgo mobile security cannot find it.
lookout says i do not have it
voovoo carrier iq detector says no
kinetoo carrier detector says NOT DETECTED
anti-ciq says " no needs to protect your phone"
ciq process killer says its not active
carrier iq cleaner told me congratulations your device does not have carrier iq
for ****s sake people.... take teh tinfoil off your head.. no one is gunna steal your gummy bears...
P.S these are all apps freely available on the market...
if you really want ill take teh time and learn how to make an app it will stop carrier iq on ths photon and atrix. but cuz of the time needed ill be charging 47 bucks per download let me know i i have any interested buyers...
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Are you using a custom ROM? Unless you are on stock, you probably won't see it. The stock photon, does in fact have CIQ on it.
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^ is sadly mistaken
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Are you using a custom ROM? Unless you are on stock, you probably won't see it. The stock photon, does in fact have CIQ on it.
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Nope, this was and still is the stock ROM. Why don't you pay attention to what Shabby says, unless you're trying to troll.
Stock Photon does not have carrier IQ.
There is a small chance there might be some really new version of CIQ that nobody knows about, but no currently known versions of CIQ exist on a stock Photon.
@Shabby and your original post.
1. You are NOT a jerk. Right or wrong, everyone here has opinions. We collect them and try to get a solution to fix something, learn something, make something easier or look better. This does not make you a jerk.
#2 Part one: You are ALMOST correct. When I originally got Sprint, I did not read the contract. I signed it and grabbed the phone. When I got Evo, I did read the ENTIRE contract (Unlimited Data has it's limitations, such as using Photon as web server, streaming Porn website........)
#2 Part two: What about the phone hacking scandal in the UK? would that not go against what you stated? I mentione it because it's in the news today.
gsm has had a major exploit for a long time. ive yet to hear of anyone doing taht with cdma.. not to say that it cant happen... but really you have a much better chance of being phished... the odds that someone is smart enough to be able to build a fake tower, program it, collect your info and then use it (without being caught) in your local area (im talking within a mile of you at most)... just seems rather unlikley ya know?
and im sure in teh contract or in teh terms of service you agree to "network services" which can and do include everything we could possibly imagine :/
as for the jerk bit it was more of a reference that you had 2 2's in your first post and skipped #3
just read up on the uk stuff sounds like it was a hack done on the voicemail of a little girl who went missing... my guess is that the "media" doesnt understand teh difference between hacking a phone and dialing it and pressing every combination to get into her voicemail....
DAMM YOU JERK!!!!
I assume your GSM comment is because GSM is Global, so it has a much larger window for hackers. South Korea has WCDMA, but our CDMA cannot use it (Well, my Evo did not work!)
I did read the entire contract, have to admit, I did not understand 99.999999% of it. Just the what you can and cannot do with unlimted data.
As for the UK thing, now thinking, you are again correct. Anyone with a little time on their hands could get into your voicemail.
gsm has had a lot of flaws in it for a long time
also those gsm bastards got you again.. wcdma is a gsm technoloy cdma and cdma2000 are the ones most commonly used over here for "cdma"
Back on Topic, I would really like to see where this goes, I have personal reasons. Remember Apple got caught with their pants down and it dropped off. Now Carrier IQ.................
I have been in IT for over 25 years. All it takes is one bad Computer Operator at Sprint..............Granted, the chances of one of them getting MY data, looking at my Bank of America logon and PW, PowerBall or MegaMillion is better.
good to know and a valid reason to root root my phone!
Just tested my stock photon, no carrier IQ. Heres the proof i am rooted but i doubt that has anything to do with it
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I currently have a Galaxy S II AT&T and my work is allowing us to use our personal phones to get corporate email.
We are a direct competitor to Samsung so my work does not allow any Samsung phones to join the program.
Is there a way to hide the model of my phone and make it look electronically like a different brand?
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I currently have a Galaxy S II AT&T and my work is allowing us to use our personal phones to get corporate email.
We are a direct competitor to Samsung so my work does not allow any Samsung phones to join the program.
Is there a way to hide the model of my phone and make it look electronically like a different brand?
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I'm no expert, but I think that's against the law. It would involve changing the IMEI, and that's a no-no as far as I've heard.
kingrat said:
I currently have a Galaxy S II AT&T and my work is allowing us to use our personal phones to get corporate email.
We are a direct competitor to Samsung so my work does not allow any Samsung phones to join the program.
Is there a way to hide the model of my phone and make it look electronically like a different brand?
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How would they know what kind of phone you have?
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How would they know what kind of phone you have?
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I would guess the IT department would have to okay the personal phone.
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How would they know what kind of phone you have?
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Because the phone model is reported back to the corporate mail server. Exchange for example, can allow or deny certain phone models based on policy
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Pirateghost said:
Because the phone model is reported back to the corporate mail server. Exchange for example, can allow or deny certain phone models based on policy
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yeppp.. no ideas huh?
jack man said:
I'm no expert, but I think that's against the law. It would involve changing the IMEI, and that's a no-no as far as I've heard.
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No, that would be if you were trying to hide it from the carrier. I doubt that the imei is used here. More likely it's a build prop check.
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No, that would be if you were trying to hide it from the carrier. I doubt that the imei is used here. More likely it's a build prop check.
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It depends on the mail client or security lockdown used. I used to have touchdown configured to report back to my exchange as an iPhone
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kingrat said:
We are a direct competitor to Samsung so my work does not allow any Samsung phones to join the program.
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Unless they are willing to provide you phones and service I think that's a pretty unreasonable requirement for a company to have. That would be like a Chrysler worker being told he cannot drive a vehicle from any other manufacturer to work and park in the company lot.
Sounds like it checks in the build prop file. I've never edited the model there so I'm not sure if it would work.
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kingrat said:
We are a direct competitor to Samsung so my work does not allow any Samsung phones to join the program.
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sounds like somebody works for Apple...
Miami_Son said:
Unless they are willing to provide you phones and service I think that's a pretty unreasonable requirement for a company to have. That would be like a Chrysler worker being told he cannot drive a vehicle from any other manufacturer to work and park in the company lot.
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I forget which car company did that but if u didn't own a car made by them u couldn't park in the company lot read Irt on the news a few years ago
http://mycolorscreen.com/oddspec/
My neighbor told me he saw this on the news. I checked on Taptu and sure enough there is an article on CNet saying that this Saturday it will become illegal to unlock any device without the carriers approval. I cant post the link cause i have fewer than 10 posts. Bummer.
Does anyone know anything more about this? How can they make an open source project like Android illegal. I understand the "Buy an unlocked device." idea, but but where I live there's simply no carrier that supports the use of an "unlocked" device.
I was just wondering what u devs thought about this. Will this effect any pure Google devices such as my GNex? What about my HTC phone which HTC provides the means of unlocking? Is that having the carrier's approval?
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trxrider31 said:
My neighbor told me he saw this on the news. I checked on Taptu and sure enough there is an article on CNet saying that this Saturday it will become illegal to unlock any device without the carriers approval. I cant post the link cause i have fewer than 10 posts. Bummer.
Does anyone know anything more about this? How can they make an open source project like Android illegal. I understand the "Buy an unlocked device." idea, but but where I live there's simply no carrier that supports the use of an "unlocked" device.
I was just wondering what u devs thought about this. Will this effect any pure Google devices such as my GNex? What about my HTC phone which HTC provides the means of unlocking? Is that having the carrier's approval?
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If the device is a Google branded device - coming straight from Google, not from any carriers like att or Verizon, then it shouldn't affect the device. So if you have a Verizon Gnex, yes. UNLESS Verizon decides to support it. This is why I always get my phone from Google itself as a device with no limitations except the hardware inside.
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guys rooting and unlocking phones are legal!!!
So will there be a "grandfather" clause that will allow me to keep my GNex unlocked or will they be able to somehow re-lock my LTE GNex?
As i stated, the only svc available where I live, aka. the sticks, is LTE. I am not aware of any unlocked device worth owning that uses the lte network. Suggestions??
And what about my HTC Rezound with unlocked bootloader? I mean, verizon had to allow HTC to sell its phone with the unlockable bootloader?? I would think that they allowed the GNex as well? I mean its only a select few devices that have this built in.
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imda1 said:
guys rooting and unlocking phones are legal!!!
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THe former is. The latter will soon be illegal.
imda1 said:
guys rooting and unlocking phones are legal!!!
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Is illegal in Bulgaria ago. And refuse warranty service if are changed ROM or device is ROOTed.
The only reason I like my android is because I can change the roms and root the phone. Allows so much customization and additional support when the manufacturer rather you go buy another phone every year.
Please understand. Rooting != Unlocking
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dibblebill said:
Please understand. Rooting != Unlocking
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Not sure what you are saying. Are you saying rooting will not be illegal but that loading a new ROM on a phone that makes the phone no longer carrier locked will be?
Most of these forums revolve around putting new, improved, unlocked ROMs on our phones. If that's going to be illegal on the 26th, then we've got problems because all these forums will be about illegal activities!
Have I missed something?
trxrider31 said:
My neighbor told me he saw this on the news. I checked on Taptu and sure enough there is an article on CNet saying that this Saturday it will become illegal to unlock any device without the carriers approval. I cant post the link cause i have fewer than 10 posts. Bummer.
Does anyone know anything more about this? How can they make an open source project like Android illegal. I understand the "Buy an unlocked device." idea, but but where I live there's simply no carrier that supports the use of an "unlocked" device.
I was just wondering what u devs thought about this. Will this effect any pure Google devices such as my GNex? What about my HTC phone which HTC provides the means of unlocking? Is that having the carrier's approval?
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I don't know how I missed this thread, I looked....but I just posted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119633
Sign the Petition
it is important to do something against that so sign this petition https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7 !!
not sure in your country
depends on your countrys laws and if you purchased the phone straight from google them selves
There are many petitions floating around, yet, I don't believe this will be around for very long. If you PURCHASE your phone it's fine. The problem lies in people upgrading, unlocking, then selling their phones. So second party (the people that buy the unlocked phones) may be held liable as the IMEI might not be registered at 'sale' or 'upgrade' even though those numbers are plainly posted on the sales package. It still pisses me off though. I upgrade and don't really use the phones I get directly, (I don't sell the phone until my service agreement eligible for another upgrade) and to think someone I sell a phone to may be held criminally liable pisses me off. Even the same when I buy a phone considering ignorance is not an excuse. How many noobs are here begging for information? Say some kid buys an unlocked ICrap to use on T-Mobile? Pops in the SIM Card and gets reported. Who wins?
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Please understand. Rooting != Unlocking
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Boy are you way off. Rooting has nothing to do with it. This is for sim unlock only
Batcom2
Speeding in a school zone is illegal too but we all catch ourselves doing.
I suggest if you unlock your at&t phone you don't go calling them saying your going to T-Mobile. You wouldn't speed in front of that cop.
BTW this doesn't seem like a big deal. Hopefully it ends subsidized phones with two year plans so people can not have to wait 2 years to switch. If you paid 800 for it then you can unlock it, or what some people said where you make a backup of your stock and then do whatever.
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zelendel said:
Boy are you way off. Rooting has nothing to do with it. This is for sim unlock only
Batcom2
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I guess you don't understand what != means.
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I don't understand what is the problem of lawmakers, but one of them are simply f**ed up.
1. If i bought a phone from a carrier and i'm still paying the monthly fee, until my contract ends, what is the problem of the carrier if i unlock the device?!
2. If i unlock the device, root it or change the rom, i must be aware i will void my warranty.