I'm S-Off and on the latest official RUU (4.03.605.2). My question is, what determines whether global capabilities (GSM specifically) will work? Is is solely up to the ruu, or does the ROM also have to support it?
It seems to me like since I have the global RUU, GSM should work no matter which ROM I install, but that's not the case. For example, with Neo's AOKP-Neo 1.5, gsm works for me, but for 1.6, or a couple of RageRom releases that I've tried, GSM does not work. I'm just lacking knowledge/understanding in this area. Thanks for any information you can provide.
If the ROM was built for the latest global RUU, then it should work with some fancy APNs.
GrayTheWolf said:
If the ROM was built for the latest global RUU, then it should work with some fancy APNs.
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Aren't APNs unnecessary for plain text sms and voice calls? I'm unable to even send or receive a text message on most (but not all) roms.
I got the answer thanks to this post.
So the global capabilities depend on the ruu and rom. Probably obvious to most but I wasn't aware and wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong.
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Greetings,
Ive lurked on xda for years without ever posting. All problems are solvable with a little research and the help of our mutual friend google
Im on my 4th HTC device, now a OneX+ that was brought into Dubai from Taiwan. Having successfully rooted and rommed all my phones and tablets, I kinda jumped the gun and started mucking around with my phone a bit early, using the rootboot early on.
I attained SU properly, but I had the same problems as others that in HBOOT, the radio was "unknown". Unfortunately I didnt write down the original radio settings, so im not entirely sure what my device is.
Now with the latest CWM, I have a working radio, CWM and AndroRevolution 3.0 working brilliantly. Radio is being reported again as the EU version of .16
However what I wanted to know are the following questions:
1) Just a bit of confirmation; the boot.img dictates the radio, correct?
2) If yes, then is it possible to flash a different radio than the original? If no, then does this mean since my radio is confirmed and everything is working, my current radio _IS_ the correct one?
3) My region and provider has LTE support and my provider says I only need to enable it on my phone. However using the dialcode to access test settings and change through the modes, it keeps switching from any LTE reception back to something with WCDMA. I cannot even switch to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto. It switches back within 2 seconds.
So what Im trying to ascertain here is, do I possibly have the wrong radio, and if I do is there a way to figure out what it should have been?
The other piece of the puzzle is that despite the unit is from Taiwain, the original language when i switched it on was German, which would suggest it is in fact a EU unit.....
Ive searched through many tools, apps, threads, specs, with no luck in answering the question.... Any help is greatly appreciated.
Paz
1. Boot.img is the kernel and has nothing to do with the radio
2. You can only flash different radio versions by either flashing an RUU or by S-OFF. Radio is a security protected partition. FLASHING A RADIO WILL NOT ENABLE 4G ON A NON 4G DEVICE!! The HOX+ Inrernational version is 3G only. So in answer to your question. Yes you can flash a new radio, but no you will never have 4G on an international hox+
AndroHero said:
1. Boot.img is the kernel and has nothing to do with the radio
2. You can only flash different radio versions by either flashing an RUU or by S-OFF. Radio is a security protected partition. FLASHING A RADIO WILL NOT ENABLE 4G ON A NON 4G DEVICE!! The HOX+ Inrernational version is 3G only. So in answer to your question. Yes you can flash a new radio, but no you will never have 4G on an international hox+
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I do have S-OFF though, so is there a way to confirm if its the international version? The model is PM35110. Any reference online is always in Asian language, so hard to tell. I suppose international version really means all countries.
Bugger.... I bought this specifically for LTE support... :crying:
Paz75 said:
I do have S-OFF though, so is there a way to confirm if its the international version? The model is PM35110. Any reference online is always in Asian language, so hard to tell. I suppose international version really means all countries.
Bugger.... I bought this specifically for LTE support... :crying:
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How did you get S-OFF? Do you mean an unlocked bootloader? because that's a different thing. Nand protection security flag, remains intact when unlocking bootloader. so write protected partitions like radio remain unaffected. Either way it's not a software issue. Its a hardware issue. The LTE device have different radio hardware not just software, So your device is either LTE ready or not.
AndroHero said:
How did you get S-OFF? Do you mean an unlocked bootloader? because that's a different thing. Nand protection security flag, remains intact when unlocking bootloader. so write protected partitions like radio remain unaffected. Either way it's not a software issue. Its a hardware issue. The LTE device have different radio hardware not just software, So your device is either LTE ready or not.
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Er yes, you are not confused, i am. HBOOT is showing S-ON, so I must have been high on caffeine when I was sure I saw S-OFF at one point. However like I mentioned I was playing with the rootboot boot.imgs early on and I was pretty sure I saw S-OFF then. But incidentally that was also when the radio was "unknown" at that time.
Oh well, Im stateside for Xmas and will give my dad the international version and buy myself a new one.
Thanks for your help
p.
Paz75 said:
I do have S-OFF though, so is there a way to confirm if its the international version? The model is PM35110. Any reference online is always in Asian language, so hard to tell. I suppose international version really means all countries.
Bugger.... I bought this specifically for LTE support... :crying:
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You're doing it so, so wrong.
A quick search of the model number reveals that it's the Endeavour C2. If you have an LTE version it would be Evitareul.
1) Wrong. Radios are flashed separately and are not packed into the boot.img.
2) It is possible but unless you are S-OFF you cannot flash one very easily.
3) The reason why is because your device does not support LTE.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
You're doing it so, so wrong.
A quick search of the model number reveals that it's the Endeavour C2. If you have an LTE version it would be Evitareul.
1) Wrong. Radios are flashed separately and are not packed into the boot.img.
2) It is possible but unless you are S-OFF you cannot flash one very easily.
3) The reason why is because your device does not support LTE.
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Yes thanks
Radios are not .img files to be flashed, they're in /system/etc
I am S-Off unlocked HBoot 2.28 Radio 2.23.10.0123r/2.23.10.0124r.
I can only receive a signal from a global GSM network when running a stock based rom. When I try to run a CM 10.+ based rom or any other type of custom rom, I get no signal. The greyed out bars show up like it is trying to work, it doesn't say no service with the X, but it will never get signal. I have played with all the network settings included in the rom and on the *#4636 screen. Nothing works until I flash back to a stock type rom.
I would really like to run a different type of rom. I also had this same exact problem running Hboot 2.27 (or whatever the previous version was to this newest one) with the accompanying radios.
Please help. Thanks!
I am s-on unlocked and put in a friend's T-Mobile sim in on Infected (CM10.1 base) I have not tried a global GSM sim though, but have global enabled in networks option.
Sent from my Infected Rezound using xda app-developers app
Hi,
i own a HTC One S (16GB) device, am running a custom rom (MaximusHD 10.0.1), Android 4.2.2, Htc Sense 5.0, rooted, TWRP 2.7 recovery, HBoot 2.16, Radio 1.20.50.05.16, Carrier is Tmobile, supercid 11111111 and bootloader unlocked. i recently installed maximusHD 10.0.0 everything works fine expect for the network connectivity, i can only make use of 2G (edge) signal but i can't switch to 3G only. Whenever i switch to 3G only my networks goes off but when i switch back to 2G it works perfectly please i would be glad if you guys can help me out
You have the official Tmo version or an international version of the phone? That rom is for the international version and might not be set up to properly utlilize the bands of Tmo service 100 is the first thing that comes to mind.
Confirmed: International version of One S does not utlilize any of the bands for T-Mobile past 2G / Edge.
From HTC's website:
HSPA/WCDMA:2
Europe/Asia: 850/900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
T-Mobile HSPA/WCDMA uses a combo of the 1900 Mhz frequency and a combo 1700/2100 AWS band.
I don't know if I get you correctly but if this is what you mean my device displays either GSM OR WCDMA so that mean I have the official tmobile version
I'm confused...you don't know if your phone came from T-Mobile or not?
My HTC one s is from T-Mobile, pls can help with the situation would really appreciate it
Ok. When you installed the rom, did you also install another radio or firmware package as well? As in the one that was listed in the OP of the rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445392 ? If so, that is probably why. The rom and radio are for the international version of your phone, not the one from T-Mobile. Now, obviously the phone are so similar that the software works on both versions. The only difference is the data bands that are supported for 3g/4g and the radios that interface with those bands. So, if you have never changed your radio like it was suggested in the thread for that rom - change your rom to one based off of T-Mobile software. If you have changed the radio, then flash one for the T-mobile version, and you should be fine. If it doesn't work after that, you'll just want to make sure both the rom and radio are for the T-Mobile version.
Thanks man, I think I messed up my device and a newbies to this time installation things. I actually followed the instructions given in the maximushd Rom, I flash the firmware packages with my tmobile version device. Pls what can I do to fix this I need your help
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Thanks man, I think I messed up my device and a newbies to this time installation things. I actually followed the instructions given in the maximushd Rom, I flash the firmware packages with my tmobile version device. Pls what can I do to fix this I need your help
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Are you S-Off?
If so: http://d-h.st/7V7 - It's a large file with the Aroma Installer to let you pick which radio you want. I believe you'd be looking for the T-Mous 1.13 one. If you aren't S-Off - Don't bother with that.
S-On?
If so, you need to re-lock the bootloader and run the RUU (Rom Update Utility) to get everything back on track, then you can re-unlock the bootloader and redo the recovery and rom stuff. http://www.androidruu.com/getdownlo..._10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe
Guide: http://androidforums.com/one-s-all-...e-how-run-ruu-your-htc-one-s.html#post5568357
Thanks man i really appreciate your effort and time you have render to me, i will work on the instructions you have given to me and let you aware how things turned out
During the installation of Sense-Radio-Installer-v6.zip i came across where it asking to select either US BUILD.PROPS OR NO EDIT please what does that mean
hello guys please I have a Rezound
I flashed it with the RUU_VIGOR_ICS_35_S_VERIZON_WWE_3.14.605.12_Radio_RS_1.22.10.0424r_3622A_MR3_9K_release_270509_signed
now I need to get it work on a GSM network (Im not in the US Im in Africa )
and as you know it doesnt accept any Sim but the VERIZON
so can any one help
NB : its not rooted
the hboot indecates
***locked***
vigor pvt ship S-OFF RL
HBOOT 2.25.00000
radio1.22100421r
Apr 12 2012
PLEASE HELP ME
I tryed the code *#*#4636#*#* but it didnt work
ammar95 said:
hello guys please I have a Rezound
I flashed it with the RUU_VIGOR_ICS_35_S_VERIZON_WWE_3.14.605.12_Radio_RS_1.22.10.0424r_3622A_MR3_9K_release_270509_signed
now I need to get it work on a GSM network (Im not in the US Im in Africa )
and as you know it doesnt accept any Sim but the VERIZON
so can any one help
NB : its not rooted
the hboot indecates
***locked***
vigor pvt ship S-OFF RL
HBOOT 2.25.00000
radio1.22100421r
Apr 12 2012
PLEASE HELP ME
I tryed the code *#*#4636#*#* but it didnt work
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Actually, ALL Verizon phones are SIM unlocked for the last 5 years or so, and the Rezound is SIM unlocked, although on the stock ROM it will give an "Unknown SIM" warning, it does not affect operation of the device and is just an annoyance.
Two things I see here, first is your firmware is NOT global mode (ie. GSM) compliant on the stock ROM... You are on 3.14.605.13 and need to be on a 4.x.x.x firmware of higher for it to work properly, the correct OTA update for you would be 4.05.605.14 which you can update directly from your version, if your phone is STOCK and UNTOUCHED... but seeing it is already S-OFF, it obviously isn't pure stock.
The good news here is you are already S-OFF, so just find the firmware files (Hboot and radios) and flash it with TWRP, then flash a GSM compatible ROM so you don't get the warning message about the SIM, and happily go about your day.
The bad news here is the Rezound was designed as a Verizon CDMA/LTE phone and not really a global device, so it is a HORRIBLE GSM phone, the GSM radios are poorly tuned and need relatively strong signal to even work. Most people who have tried to use this device as their primary phone on a GSM network leave it quickly due to it's poor network performance.
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Actually, ALL Verizon phones are SIM unlocked for the last 5 years or so, and the Rezound is SIM unlocked, although on the stock ROM it will give an "Unknown SIM" warning, it does not affect operation of the device and is just an annoyance.
Two things I see here, first is your firmware is NOT global mode (ie. GSM) compliant on the stock ROM... You are on 3.14.605.13 and need to be on a 4.x.x.x firmware of higher for it to work properly, the correct OTA update for you would be 4.05.605.14 which you can update directly from your version, if your phone is STOCK and UNTOUCHED... but seeing it is already S-OFF, it obviously isn't pure stock.
The good news here is you are already S-OFF, so just find the firmware files (Hboot and radios) and flash it with TWRP, then flash a GSM compatible ROM so you don't get the warning message about the SIM, and happily go about your day.
The bad news here is the Rezound was designed as a Verizon CDMA/LTE phone and not really a global device, so it is a HORRIBLE GSM phone, the GSM radios are poorly tuned and need relatively strong signal to even work. Most people who have tried to use this device as their primary phone on a GSM network leave it quickly due to it's poor network performance.
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thanks again sir
well i've been searching and found a rom (an ruu) its
Rezound_Global_ICS_4.03.605.2_Full_RUU_PH98IMG
i flashed it to the phone and now i have 4choices in the network type
global
lte/cdma
gsm
/umts
cdma only
of caurse i choose gsm
but the problem is that not all the sims work on it ( only one works and barely)
the msgs and mmi cods dont work at all
can you help ? cause i'v seeen something on xda about a gsm fix
is it safe ?????????
ohh i almost forgot
whats in your oppinion the best costum ROM
ammar95 said:
thanks again sir
well i've been searching and found a rom (an ruu) its
Rezound_Global_ICS_4.03.605.2_Full_RUU_PH98IMG
i flashed it to the phone and now i have 4choices in the network type
global
lte/cdma
gsm
/umts
cdma only
of caurse i choose gsm
but the problem is that not all the sims work on it ( only one works and barely)
the msgs and mmi cods dont work at all
can you help ? cause i'v seeen something on xda about a gsm fix
is it safe ?????????
ohh i almost forgot
whats in your oppinion the best costum ROM
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First, in the stock ROM the message app is hard coded to Verizon, try a different SMS/MMS app like Hangouts or Textra.
The GSM fix is to change the default network mode to GSM, it doesn't magically make GSM work (you will find on a reboot you will probably have to change the network mode again manually)... it makes a couple of prop.build. changes and is safe on ROMs it was intended for, meaning AOSP based ROMs, I don't know what happen if you tried to flash it on a CM or Sense based ROM.
As far as best ROMs go, it is tough for me to give advice since I haven't had a Rez for a long time, and my GSM experience with it was, lets just say less than acceptable. Many GSM only users like the ROMs by Sundream, personally I used Evervolv, Talon, and Liquid Smooth.
I just got a new unlocked AT&T M8, switched over from iPhone. I'm going to be using it with T-Mobile, and I'm still struggling to learn how all this stuff works. So the phone is running on Android 4.4.4 currently, and I want to install a custom ROM on it, but I need Android 5.0. Since I have a T-Mobile sim card, I don't have any OTA updates. From what I understand, if I wanted to switch to a T-Mobile ROM, I'd have to pay $25 for Sunshine, which I'd rather not do. Would I also need to do so to get an international ROM? Also, from what I'm reading, my other option is to use the AT&T RUU from HTC's website to update to 5.0, and then install a custom ROM from there. Is this correct, would that remove my unlock, and are there instructions/recommended readings before I try anything? Thanks for any help.
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I just got a new unlocked AT&T M8, switched over from iPhone. I'm going to be using it with T-Mobile, and I'm still struggling to learn how all this stuff works. So the phone is running on Android 4.4.4 currently, and I want to install a custom ROM on it, but I need Android 5.0. Since I have a T-Mobile sim card, I don't have any OTA updates. From what I understand, if I wanted to switch to a T-Mobile ROM, I'd have to pay $25 for Sunshine, which I'd rather not do. Would I also need to do so to get an international ROM? Also, from what I'm reading, my other option is to use the AT&T RUU from HTC's website to update to 5.0, and then install a custom ROM from there. Is this correct, would that remove my unlock, and are there instructions/recommended readings before I try anything? Thanks for any help.
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You probably want the T-Mob radio software, so you can enable the 3G and LTE bands used by T-Mob. Otherwise, you will find that the AT&T radio does not give you 3G and LTE in many locations.
In order to flash another carrier's radio, you need s-off, and there is no way around that. Then you need to change the carrier ID (CID) and model ID (MID) to that of T-Mob.
At that point, you may as well RUU to a stock factory T-Mobile software image (not just the radio) and that would be recommended, is it will get you a complete T-Mobile "baseline" phone as opposed to an AT&T ROM with T-Mob radio, etc.
After running the T-Mob RUU, your phone will be "fully converted" to the T-Mob version in terms of software. Others here have converted the AT&T version for use on T-Mob. So I'll try to find one of those threads instead of trying to explain it all again.
None of these mods will change your SIM unlock. That will remain unlocked.
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/installing-tmobile-rom-att-branded-phone-t3069388
Another point: You can update to the latest AT&T Lollipop software by RUU. And you can flash custom Lollipop ROMs after that. But neither of these will enable the 3G and LTE bands used by T-Mob. So that is why I suggest "converting" the phone to T-Mob stock software instead.
Thanks for the response! Appreciate it. A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together? Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
Thanks again!
grant523 said:
Thanks for the response! Appreciate it. A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together? Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
Thanks again!
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Yes it's different the AT&T ruu won't give you the T-Mobile bands. And you can install custom roms if you want but I would reccomend paying the $25 to s-off and fully converting to t-mobile and either stay on stock or flash a custom t-mobile rom
grant523 said:
A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
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I think your first phrase was intended to read "flash the T-Mob RUU, then install a custom ROM".
The radio is not contained in the ROM, and flashing a ROM doesn't affect the radio in any way.
The radio is contained in what many folks here called the "firmware package" or firmware.zip; and it can be installed by flashing the RUU.
Another thing that will help you understand, is that the phone has something like 36 (or more) partitions. The ROM is just one of those. The radio is a separate partition (as bootloader, recovery, and others have their own separate partitions as well). Flashing one partition, does not effect the others. The RUU is a complete software image that flashes all the partitions to factory stock for a certain carrier version.
You can also flash the radio or firmware.zip manually (without flashing the whole RUU). But my personal recommendation would be to baseline to a fully stock T-Mobile software profile, since you are on the T-Mob network, to make sure every partition plays well together (as opposed to mixing T-Mob and AT&T software components).
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If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together?
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I wouldn't say that. Custom ROMs have their place. But a custom ROM will not open up the T-Mob bands. As mentioned, you can only do that by flashing the radio, which isn't affected by flashing the ROM.
After baselining to a T-Mob stock config as I've suggested, you can feel free to flash a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs if you like. But if would be for other reasons than the radio bands; such as performance, customization, debloating, etc..
grant523 said:
Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
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Basically yes. If you want to be sure a phone works fully on a certain network "out of the box", you should buy the phone that is branded for that network. Otherwise, you should always thoroughly research a phone (not branded for your carrier) before trying to use it on your network.
Luckily for you, on this device the radio bands can be changed in software using the mods I've noted above. On past devices, the band support was set in hardware, meaning where was no way to change it in software. In that case, you would really have some buyer's remorse to deal with.
Ah OK thanks for the responses! I think I'm starting to understand. I did research how an At&t m8 would work with T-MOBILE but I didn't realize i would have to go throw this whole software process to make it work! Anyhow I appreciate the help and I'll buy a Sunshine license when I get a chance. Thanks again!
You are quite welcome.
Here is a thread with more info on changing from AT&T to T-Mob software: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/installing-tmobile-rom-att-branded-phone-t3069388#post60606278
Good luck!