Hi all!
As this is my first post, i apologies in advance in case i'm not following some of the proper ways, is such the case, please let me know.
I have search and can't find any thread about this, so here i'm writing.
So, i need to drop the android from the atrix phone and install a native linux on it.
I don't need all the phone functionality, but i DO need access to use all the hardware (i'm planning to use this as an industrial grade motherboard)
Right now my problem is that i have recompile kerner, initrd, even system, but i can't get the linux working properly... my big problem is that i can't initialize the console (no via native screen or hdmi :S) i have try the CM7 kernel and a compiled by my self kernel also, but no way.
I have lots of experience on linux on pc, but this is my first working on a arm or a android based board/phone.
Can someone give me a hand or guide me thou?
Or maybe there is an img there with what i need and i can't find it?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
You'll need to search but I'm pretty sure I saw where a functional edition of Ubuntu was ported to the Atrix about a year ago. I'm not sure how far they took it though.
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AnotherBill said:
You'll need to search but I'm pretty sure I saw where a functional edition of Ubuntu was ported to the Atrix about a year ago. I'm not sure how far they took it though.
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I have search it and can't find it :S (maybe the project never go far enough?)
Thanks!
There is no Linux replacement for Android on the Atrix. Best you will do is to use Ubuntop, Gentop, etc., as Webtop replacements.
Wee bit of searching and you would have known this.
Cheers!
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I would like to develop my own application, I've gotten my feet wet in programming in java and a little c++ but I want to learn everything I can.
Also maybe are there compiling tools available directly on Android?
Can anyone get me started?
Much thanks for people who help.
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Download the Android SDK and the ADT Plugin for Eclipse from here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html. After I got it all running, I found a nice little Android Development Tutorial online and went to work (it was probably on this same site). Eclipse is a little slow on Windows, so I switched to an Ubuntu machine, but that is not a must.
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Download the Android SDK and the ADT Plugin for Eclipse from here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html. After I got it all running, I found a nice little Android Development Tutorial online and went to work (it was probably on this same site). Eclipse is a little slow on Windows, so I switched to an Ubuntu machine, but that is not a must.
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sorry if this is noob, but did you dual boot or run it in a VM? would either be sufficient? or would an actual dual boot be better?
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sorry if this is noob, but did you dual boot or run it in a VM? would either be sufficient? or would an actual dual boot be better?
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I made a dual boot machine. VM works well for many -- definitely a good option to be able to play around with Linux to see if you like it. For development purposes, I thought it better to get the best performance, thus the dual boot system.
I have the need to move my development machine often, so I did my research and got a laptop that is very compatible with Ubuntu -- many are not. It has all worked out very well to this point.
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I made a dual boot machine. VM works well for many -- definitely a good option to be able to play around with Linux to see if you like it. For development purposes, I thought it better to get the best performance, thus the dual boot system.
I have the need to move my development machine often, so I did my research and got a laptop that is very compatible with Ubuntu -- many are not. It has all worked out very well to this point.
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thank you very much! i just recently decided i want to become a developer and possibly a get a degree in computer science. (im stilll young, luckily i got time to do this) and so im very new to all this. ive been rooting and flashing for 2 years, but never have created anything. so thank you for taking your time to answer me, regardless of my noobness
I recently got started with developing for Android, and using the Android SDK with eclipse is definitely a great way to get started. I would recommend making a simple application that does some type of math function.
If you have developed in Java before, it will be pretty easy to get started with Android. I common first app is a tip calculator. If you get stuck or have any questions, google is your best friend. Also, you can always PM me, I have been looking for people to develop with.
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I recently got started with developing for Android, and using the Android SDK with eclipse is definitely a great way to get started. I would recommend making a simple application that does some type of math function.
If you have developed in Java before, it will be pretty easy to get started with Android. I common first app is a tip calculator. If you get stuck or have any questions, google is your best friend. Also, you can always PM me, I have been looking for people to develop with.
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I may PM you tonight, I'll see if I can get that tip calculator to work. Thanks!
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Sorry first off I'm not sure if this is the right forum. Was thinking developers but there was an ominous warning at the top of that one so I decided not to take the chance.
The question is can Linux be installed on an Android based device natively? I'm aware of chroot enviroments and have done those. I also found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981688 which is slightly cooler but it's still an AUFS based chroot mount. I found the same question asked here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272964 but there was no answer and I didn't want to zombie the thread. Google searches didn't turn up anything useful either.
While I'm thinking the question is fairly device agnostic my device is a Droid 2 Global. I'm getting ready to replace it soon but I'm thinking it might make a nice little embedded system. From what I've read about my device in particular it's got some type of "lock" that disallows the use of other kernels but I am not afraid of recompiling the kernel for my device with additional needed modules for file systems or whatever. I have done this in the past.
I'm not super picky on the distro, but given a choice I guess I'd go with Debian (hardly ever changes so I can just check for security updates once a week or so and otherwise forget about it).
I wouldn't expect anyone to be able to answer this directly as I'm sure it'd be a novel. I'm more hoping someone might have a link to a guide or something that I just completely failed to locate.
So I kept digging and I found this: http www dot htc-linux.org forwardslash wiki forwardslash index.php. As the link suggests it's focused towards HTC devices but between it and some other links on there I think I can work with it.
I'll mark the thread as [SOLVED], but since it ended up being fairly useless (sorry) go ahead and delete if it amuses you to do so, any passing admin.
Ubuntu is coming out with an official version for Android soon.
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Ubuntu is coming out with an official version for Android soon.
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This is probably your best answer. The Ubuntu build that runs on top of Android for webtop/lapdock purposes is running from the same kernel as Android is according to what I've heard. They will be providing the source so we'll see what the community can do with it.
It is possible on some Android devices, such as the Transformer and Desire.
But the Droid 2 Global, having a locked bootloader and the inability to install custom kernels, is not able to use native Linux.
If you want an Android device that is able to use native Linux do some research to find the one that fits you best.
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have you seen this? interestiong reading...
http://whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Debian
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have you seen this? interestiong reading...
http://whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Debian
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I tried it a small time ago. Everything works but zygote and its forks fail to start, perhaps due to mount namespaces implementation on Android, but I'm not sure. Seeking a way out for this but not successful so far due to lack of knowledge.
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I am looking for suggestions.
What could I use my Lapdock for, now that I made the switch to CyanogenMod?
Is there a good solution for making the VNC'ed ARM Ubuntu (look for Ubuntu Installer in the Play Store) work better with the touchpad? Should I sell it? Is there a solution to make remote control apps such as TeamViewer or Splashtop integrate with the Lapdock's keyboard and touchpad? Is there any way to make the device switch to Tablet mode without rebooting? That would be rather interesting to see. By the way, the CM9 ROM I am currently running has got Landscape HDMI working flawlessly, so that should not be an issue...
PS: Please do not ignore this thread. Any suggestions are welcome! (Use your common sense though)
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I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
Paranoid Android Rom
I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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31083061[/URL]]I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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Maybe they are waiting for the unified linux/android kernel 3.4 this would most certainly make it easier to port and updates trivial.
kurtcocaine said:
I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
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Hello friend, I did the same thing you did, go back to blur....but now I am stuck in the original ubuntop, I mean I can not install all the apps needed to be a fully working laptop....could you help me with it?. I can not understant the steps in the webtop original thread.
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
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Cocolopes said:
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Made me laugh out loud!
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kurtcocaine said:
I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
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Currently, I use it for watching movies as well, and I am looking forward to pairing a Wii Remote and/or a DualShock® 3 to my Atrix™, so that I can play some games such as GTA III and Shadowgun (Max Payne *-*) on the big screen.
I was happy with Blur until the day I ran into that tempting CM9 thread. I did not know what smoothness and responsiveness really were. Blur was the smoothest I thought it could ever get... But I was wrong, and now I have to choose between fluidity and Webtop. :thumbdown:
I actually went back to Blur some months ago, but unfortunately, prolonged use of ICS can cause dependence. Believe it or not, I was pretty happy with Blur. Webtop was working flawlessly, I even had BackTrack installed, but then came the relapse: I could no longer resist to ICS. I am now back to CM9, and with it comes my dilemma...
I am looking for a way to use the Atrix™ as a more desktop-ish platform when docked (especially to the Lapdock). I believe the ideal would be Ubuntu through a local VNC client, or a remote desktop app, I just wish they would play nicer with the keyboard and touchpad...
Basically, something like a key mapper (easy-to-use, I am still unable to figure out WiiMoteController's key mapping scheme) for Lapdock's hardware. We could make a keyboard-powered Ouya!
What still concerns me though, is that games would not be optimized for it e.g. Minecraft PE, games where the camera angle for example, is controlled by dragging the screen, so it would have to be a really powerful, but easy-to-use key mapper, and since you can't have everything in life, I'm afraid I'm asking for much...
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Paranoid Android Rom
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What I understand from your reply is that the Paranoid Android ROM could put my Lapdock back to use. But what is the Paranoid Android ROM? What makes it different from other ROMs? How could it (at least partially) solve my problem?
Please be more specific.
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I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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When the official Ubuntu for Android was announced, even though an Atrix 2 was used for the hands-on part, on the project's official hotsite... It was clearly an Atrix™ 4G standing there on the dock. The differences between our device's design and the Atrix 2's or the Defy's (Defy+'s) are not that obvious, but they are, indeed, noticeable.
You do know what that means, don't you? It means it is almost certain that our device will be on the first batch of officially supported devices!
I don't if the Atrix™ is still there, but if it's not, I can try to find the screenshot I took if you'd like.
I am so proud! :beer:
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Maybe they are waiting for the unified linux/android kernel 3.4 this would most certainly make it easier to port and updates trivial.
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What do you mean? It would have to be ported to each supported device anyway, wouldn't it?
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Hello friend, I did the same thing you did, go back to blur....but now I am stuck in the original ubuntop, I mean I can not install all the apps needed to be a fully working laptop....could you help me with it?. I can not understant the steps in the webtop original thread.
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I have never thought I'd say this but, "Please don't get off-topic". I'd appreciate it if this gets settled in a new thread or via PM.
Anyway, you said "stock UbunTop", I could be wrong, but I think it's either stock or UbunTop, which is a mod born right here on our neighbor forum, Android Development.
If yours is really stock, I suggest you get BackTrack from the BackTop project, I don't it's got aircrack built-in, and I was unable to install it, so unless you're an experienced hacker, don't get too excited with BackTrack's features, but my point is: It is amazingly faster than Webtop, it seems lighter, I used to be able to run more than 3 different apps simultaneously...
If yours is really running UbunTop I'm afraid I cannot assist you, since webtop2sd never worked for me and BackTop and WebtopMOD were the only I could ever manage to get working on my device...
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you can use it as a gift....for me!....
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Hahaha
Nice one. I'll think about it though... Hehe
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gabriel_feo said:
What I understand from your reply is that the Paranoid Android ROM could put my Lapdock back to use. But what is the Paranoid Android ROM? What makes it different from other ROMs? How could it (at least partially) solve my problem?
Please be more specific.
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I can answer this. What he meant is that you should use Paranoid. Paranoid is a rom thats an hybrid of a phone an a tablet, in short words, you can activate tablet mode for some apps, while some other apps still run in phone-mode, for the ease of use.
What I actually meant was to give a name and a designation, which I did.
Google paranoid android rom and you get the website, the website has a much better explanation then I could or should have to provide.
But yes in short it can give you a tablet UI on lapdock.
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I can answer this. What he meant is that you should use Paranoid. Paranoid is a rom thats an hybrid of a phone an a tablet, in short words, you can activate tablet mode for some apps, while some other apps still run in phone-mode, for the ease of use.
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Random Canadian said:
What I actually meant was to give a name and a designation, which I did.
Google paranoid android rom and you get the website, the website has a much better explanation then I could or should have to provide.
But yes in short it can give you a tablet UI on lapdock.
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I did before you guys answered and after I posted my reply, and was about to post an apology to you, my friend (Random Canadian).
Sometimes my brain takes just way too long to figure some things out...
I am sorry.
Anyway, thank you very much! This might just solve it all!
>>>>> But even if it works for me, please don't stop sharing your ideas! <<<<<
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I did before you guys answered and after I posted my reply, and was about to post an apology to you, my friend (Random Canadian).
Sometimes my brain takes just way too long to figure some things out...
I am sorry.
Anyway, thank you very much! This might just solve it all!
>>>>> But even if it works for me, please don't stop sharing your ideas! <<<<<
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So no gift for me? ... hahaha... just a joke... glad you solve it...
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Is it possible to get paranoid android on the lap dock in native resolution?(1376)
I was thinking in try to port Ubuntu Touch to my Android Device (Razr D3).
I've saw Ubuntu running on some devices, but only devices that developers give attention (Nexus series per example). I've saw once Ubuntu Touch running in a Xperia Mini Pro, but did not understand how that guy ported the SO to the Xperia series.
Well, my doubt is: Where do I start this job? Where do I get the files to try something? How do I create compatibility for my device?
I really don't understand anything about this, I want to learn. And, if success, try to port Ubuntu to all Razr series.
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I was thinking in try to port Ubuntu Touch to my Android Device (Razr D3).
I've saw Ubuntu running on some devices, but only devices that developers give attention (Nexus series per example). I've saw once Ubuntu Touch running in a Xperia Mini Pro, but did not understand how that guy ported the SO to the Xperia series.
Well, my doubt is: Where do I start this job? Where do I get the files to try something? How do I create compatibility for my device?
I really don't understand anything about this, I want to learn. And, if success, try to port Ubuntu to all Razr series.
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(apologies for crap urls, still a new member here........)
Best place atm is wiki dot ubuntu.com/Touch/PortingFlippedInProgress but it's still kind of a mess given the ubuntu team hasn't given it many updates recently to reflect the flipped images. Unless you're well experienced in messing android with both android and ubuntu I'd give a miss until someone rewrites it.
I've been trying to get my tf201 working for months now to no avail but good luck to you!
p.s. the irc log from a porting day has good info as well irclogs dot ubuntu.com/2013/08/01/%23ubuntu-touch.html
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(apologies for crap urls, still a new member here........)
Best place atm is wiki dot ubuntu.com/Touch/PortingFlippedInProgress but it's still kind of a mess given the ubuntu team hasn't given it many updates recently to reflect the flipped images. Unless you're well experienced in messing android with both android and ubuntu I'd give a miss until someone rewrites it.
I've been trying to get my tf201 working for months now to no avail but good luck to you!
p.s. the irc log from a porting day has good info as well irclogs dot ubuntu.com/2013/08/01/%23ubuntu-touch.html
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Thanks, but, the links do not work. Can you post a functional link?
Also, I have been searching for something in official Ubuntu page, but a didn't find anything! Dude, is there another forum or ftp severs that stores at least generical images to download? The official comunity seems to do not give a minimal help or importance to work to do ports made by amateurs developers, I cannot understand how Ubuntu Phone be open source if any source is available.
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are you including the sub domain when you're entering the urls?
wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/PortingFlippedInProgress
irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/01/%23ubuntu-touch.html
i need a very simple way to flash my phone with ubuntu touch please
thought it would be simpler to just paste the thread title.... im running in circles trying to accomplish this but keep smashing into brick walls....
tried installing from Ubuntu itself.. its an old version.. too old to understand the $ cmd.......when it comes to linux im a complete moron..... but im smart enough to know that my samsung Ace2 is too damned slow on android.. to the point im having difficulty answering calls
i want android GONE.. i dont want dual boot.. i want android GONE
and, i want a simple install please.. as simple as wubi.exe... in fact it was the only way i was capable of installing ubuntu or xubuntu on my notebooks.. yes ladies and gents.. im converted.. im done with microsoft, most likely 4 good... so please tell me how i can accomplish this task
thank you, much regards to all you for keeping linux alive till today...
Chris
Ubuntu Touch is not for your device... Sorry.
There is the deprecated Ubuntu for Android.
Try this XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009
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Ubuntu Touch is not for your device... Sorry.
There is the deprecated Ubuntu for Android.
Try this XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009
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might i ask why my smartphone isnt elidgible ?
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might i ask why my smartphone isnt elidgible ?
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It will only work if there's a port for your device. Sadly, mobile devices aren't as easy to handle as desktop computers. On the desktop you can take the OS and install it on (almost) all devices because it includes drivers for all standard PC components. On mobiles, however, you need separate drivers for every device as all devices are special and (more important) the manufacturer often does not make it easy for devs to write the necessary drivers. Always remember, we who are modding our phones are a minority.
You shouldn't be too sorry about the absence of a port for your device though. Ubuntu is (even though it's rapidly making progress) much slower than Android, even on officially supported devices.
thank you, but i wont give up.. i downloaded kali linux.. now just trying to figure out a way to open a .img file from android
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thank you, but i wont give up.. i downloaded kali linux.. now just trying to figure out a way to open a .img file from android
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Dude, you are going to brick your phone. You can't just flash whatever to wherever.
Your phone was built for Gingerbread. It is thin on Hardware resources. I'm sure it is struggling if you've updated it into Jelly Bean. There are alternate ROMs that might run better on an Ace 2. Check the Ace 2 forum at XDA... http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-ace Debloat the damn thing. Samsung layers so much icing on there you can't taste the actual cake. I mean the skin (Touchwiz) is sooo thick it robs the performance. Especially at your phone's age and the major jumps in OS version it's gone through. You've got to blast out a lot of the grunge that's clogging the pipes.
If you truly want away from Android get a phone designed for another OS. You can get a brand new phone fairly inexpensive off contract and not have to deal with Android. I like the Nokia Lumia 520. A great entry level phone that is modern and runs well without breaking the bank. Or maybe you can find a quality used phone on Craig's list.
i find it hard to believe a bricked ace 2 is any different than a functional 1.. i never flashed anything onto it...
okay.. ill try downgrading it to gingerbread..... need to figure out how though lol
ragez0r said:
i find it hard to believe a bricked ace 2 is any different than a functional 1.. i never flashed anything onto it...
okay.. ill try downgrading it to gingerbread..... need to figure out how though lol
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Dude, not to be an ass. But there are a couple things... You will need to develop your own drivers. If you do (somehow) get a standard Linux distro installed, you won't even be able to get the screen to turn on. Second of all....YOUR PHONE CAN BARELY RUN ANDROID! What makes you think it can handle a full Linux operating system like Kali Linux? And the last thing you need to realize. You WILL NOT be able to make calls, text, or get mobile data on your phone. If the phone is that bad...go out and get a new phone. Sorry man.