I have flashed a few ROMs for the Notei717 and still like the stock. The other ROMs are great but I like the stock feel and apps like s-pen,memo... but I cant seem to find the split screen view on any. If anyone knows how to get this feature or what ROM has it can you let me know?
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You can flash Paranoid android and it now includes SPen gesture support. You still have to use third party apps like Papyrus or Gnote but the support is there.
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I've had my Note 2 for a few weeks. This is the first phone I haven't rooted and put on a custom ROM. I came from a Galaxy Nexus where I tried many flavors of ROM. The one thing I really miss from 4.2.2 is the ability to put widgets on the lock screen. (I use pattern lock).
Let me say that I'm not annoyed by TouchWiz so that's not the incentive to put on a custom ROM. And I definitely don't want "pure Google" as I'd choose AOKP over AOSP any day.
I'm tempted to put on a 4.2.2 ROM on the Note 2 but I'd like to know what I'd lose by doing so. The ROM threads talk about the features of their rom but don't tell me about what I'll lose. So, here are some questions.
Do all of the unique features of the phone work properly?
Does the Spen work properly?
Are the Spen apps that Samsung supplies available?
Does Multi-Window still work?
Can I have a floating video player?
Do the capabilities of AllShare go away?
I'm especially dependent upon Samsung Motion: Palm touch to mute, quick glance,
Does Smart Stay work? (Screen stays on while looking at it)
Is there a bullet list of things that go away?
Thanks for any help given. I like to be informed before I jump in.
As long as it's a TouchWiz ROM everything works. On AOSP, it's trickier. S-Pen works as a stylus, but you need third party apps to get some of the features back, and you have no multi-window, and all the motion, smart stay, and similar features go away.
But, stick to TouchWiz ROMs and it all works fine.
Edit: I just noticed that you referred to AOKP and AOSP separately, but they aren't. AOSP is the Google open source drop, and many ROMs from CM to AOKP to PAC and more are based on AOSP. So, AOKP *is* AOSP.
If you use a non-touchwiz rom, all the things that make the Note a Note, go away. All the Samsung features, multi window, s-pen, smart everything, s-pen preview, pop-up browser, s-planner, everything goes away.
You can use a third party note taking app, there are other floating browsers, s-pen works as a stylus only, not cut & paste or pop-up notes.
Stick with MeanBeans or CleanROM if you want full functionality.
Thanks for the quick replies. Very helpful information. It begs new questions.
1. Is there a TouchWiz ROM that is running 4.2?
2. If not, what's the benefit of installing a 4.1 TouchWiz ROM?
3. Can I easily tell if a rom is TouchWiz? Do they state it in their description?
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Thanks for the quick replies. Very helpful information. It begs new questions.
1. Is there a TouchWiz ROM that is running 4.2?
2. If not, what's the benefit of installing a 4.1 TouchWiz ROM?
3. Can I easily tell if a rom is TouchWiz? Do they state it in their description?
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1. None of the TW ROMs are 4.2 at this point.
2. The advantages of the custom ROMs are that they combine lots of individual mods to improve overall functionality. Things like adding all apps to multi-window, editing the APN information to use another carrier's sim for data, changing the toggles in the notification window, etc.
3. The ROM description will tell you if the ROM is touchwiz based. Take a look at the dev forum...they are all listed there http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1888
There are no 4.2 TW ROMs. There are 4.1.2 ROMs, but they are not based on Verizon software. Whether or not that matters depends on whether or not you use Verizon apps. My Verizon works fine, but Visual Voicemail, NFL Mobile, etc will not work. All the Samsung stuff still works fine.
As for benefit, they are leaner, usually quicker, and have more features and customizations available. You can choose what stock apps you want to install and which you want to leave out, and generally give you more control over your phone. Possibly of particular interest to you since you mentioned multi-window specifically, all the TW ROMs I've tried allow any app to be added to the multi-window toolbar, and not just the few that Samsung decided to put in there.
Look for one that isn't AOSP, CM, AOKP, etc. Also, if it's 4.2, it's not TW. Generally, you're going to find TW ROMs in normal development, and non-TW in original development.
Clean ROM 1.5 is based on Verizon ll4 code base. Almost everything should work. You can pick and choose what stock apps you want to install when you flash it.
This is the closest to stock experience while still getting the benefits of a custom ROM.
Link to all the features
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073390
Note 2 - Nexus 7 - Charge - Player 5.0 - Fascinate
Read twice, flash once
I know that this looks like it has been asked a dozen times, but I assure you that I have looked high and low and have installed literally 10 or so keyboards trying to compare features.
Here's what I am looking for (if it's possible):
Looking for a port of the keyboard that comes with AOKP 4.2.2 Milestone 1 or later. I know that there are tons of Jellybean keyboards out there and they even have gesture typing, but the one that comes with AOKP has the long press alternate keys exactly where I want them as well as the right selection.
I have tried the Google Keyboard from the Play Store and it doesn't have the long press alternates (aside for a select few that aren't labled).
Does anyone know how I can get this keyboard to work on my Note II? I have even gone so far as to extract it from an AOKP ROM and it loads fine, however the gesture typing does not work (just shows the gesture trail but doesn't type anything)
Is this at all possible? Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance!
eric2112 said:
I know that this looks like it has been asked a dozen times, but I assure you that I have looked high and low and have installed literally 10 or so keyboards trying to compare features.
Here's what I am looking for (if it's possible):
Looking for a port of the keyboard that comes with AOKP 4.2.2 Milestone 1 or later. I know that there are tons of Jellybean keyboards out there and they even have gesture typing, but the one that comes with AOKP has the long press alternate keys exactly where I want them as well as the right selection.
I have tried the Google Keyboard from the Play Store and it doesn't have the long press alternates (aside for a select few that aren't labled).
Does anyone know how I can get this keyboard to work on my Note II? I have even gone so far as to extract it from an AOKP ROM and it loads fine, however the gesture typing does not work (just shows the gesture trail but doesn't type anything)
Is this at all possible? Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance!
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If AOKP is like the other AOSP Roms then the keyboard is the Google keyboard, unless they are using the older AOSP keyboard which is the same thing with a different name. AOKP may just use a different one but I doubt that.
Have you tweaked with the settings in the keyboard once installed to make sure the gesture trail is turned on?
You might get more help in the Themes section seeing how they deal with a lot of keyboards and mods for keyboards.
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If AOKP is like the other AOSP Roms then the keyboard is the Google keyboard, unless they are using the older AOSP keyboard which is the same thing with a different name. AOKP may just use a different one but I doubt that.
Have you tweaked with the settings in the keyboard once installed to make sure the gesture trail is turned on?
You might get more help in the Themes section seeing how they deal with a lot of keyboards and mods for keyboards.
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I tried everything. Gesture trail is turned on. The keyboard version is 4.2.2. Not really sure what else to do. Seems like maybe a lib file is missing or something.
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I had a few questions about AOSP ROMs and such. Firstly, I know what an AOSP ROM is, don't get me wrong, but one thing I didn't know is if an AOSP ROM for the S4 came with the features the phone is supposed to have like smart scroll, air gestures etc. Do they, or is there one that does? My second question was, if AOSP ROMs do not include these features is there a way to theme the phone to look like AOSP or a ROM (other than Eclipse) that looks like AOSP but has the features of the phone? I really like the AOSP look, but I want the features the phone is supposed to have. Also, the reason I don't want to run Eclipse is because I've tried it and loved it, however, the clock with the owner information for the lock screen doesn't work (at least for me, the owner info doesn't show up) and I really want the owner info there. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
By its v very definition, those features are not part of AOSP roms. They ate proprietary to Samsung's TouchWiz overlay.
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Ok so I'm in the market for a large phone and I decided to get this one used. Spent about 200 on a decent one. Im planning on unlocking it and rooting it so that I can flash away. However I notice that you lose some features Samsung pushes when you refrain from stock ROMs ( i had a S2 and I would lose all those special features when switching to custom non stock ROMs). So does the same rule apply here in regards to the S pen?
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There is like 1 or 2 custom roms with s-pen features. They are based on android version 4.1.2 and have touchwiz in the framework. Any 4.2 roms won't have touchwiz or s-pen features. The pen still works on them to write. But the button and gestures are limited.
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There is like 1 or 2 custom roms with s-pen features. They are based on android version 4.1.2 and have touchwiz in the framework. Any 4.2 roms won't have touchwiz or s-pen features. The pen still works on them to write. But the button and gestures are limited.
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you clearly have never flashed carbon, or cm10.1 ...
im not sure which others, but both of those support s-pen button gesture support, and allow for plenty of note apps from the market
Thanks were given to both of you. I can't wait until my note comes in. You guys have any tips or can you enlighten me on any persistent problems? Ill be using Tmo services on the Note btw.
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Possible problems will depend on the roms/kernels and other mods that you are going to apply to your phone. It will be best for you to read and research the roms/kernels and other mods you are planning to use before diving in.
If you want stock-based roms, you can go to the dev section and try Padawan or Blackstar. They are both very popular.
Like Jamie mentioned, non-stock-based roms may have some/similar s-pen gestures. Some people prefer the stock s-pen setup, some don't. I personally used to prefer to stick with stock-based roms for the stock s-pen features, but not anymore. I just found that I can place a widget (google keep, evernote or sticky note, and others) or a shortcut to a note-taking app (papyrus) for quick note-taking.
I only use the pen for notetaking and drawing. The s-memo app is nothing to cheer for.
Since you spend most of your phone time doing other things, base your rom choice on the features that you like . . . and just use an app you like for notes and drawing.
Use papyrus and apex launcher for double tap on home screen and you will be fine
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I've been switching around between a few different ROMs lately, trying to find one with a combination of features that I like enough to outweigh the features that it's missing.
So, what ROM are you using right now and what features do you enjoy most about it? What do you miss from previous ROMs that you wish your current ROM had?
The purpose of this question is partially curiosity and partially me asking for help to make up my mind on what ROM would best serve my interests.
I'm currently running CM11 (1/21 nightly). I love all the features of KitKat 4.4, the look, the status bar, Google Now being present on every page, print from phone integration. I miss some TouchWiz features like the Spen functionality/integration and apps (though there are sufficient substitutes), dock audio, swipe to call/text.
So what's your input?
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