[Q] Moving apps to SD with extremely low memory (Froyo) - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm new to this forum, and I am really scared after watching the video about being slaughtered for posting a new thread. I searched for a solid half hour before posting, and I did not find any appropriate existing threads, although some were somewhat similar.
I am about to get my first Android phone. It is a Motorola Flipside (I am on a budget and I need a physical keyboard; hopefully, if you didn't hate me for posting a new thread you will not hate me for buying a Flipside). The phone comes with Eclair, but can be upgraded to Froyo. When I do this, I know that I will have less than 100MB of free space (could be as little as 60MB) on the internal hard drive, but I am not sure how much less, and I don't want to mess around with moving too much bloatware or rooting. In order to get the apps that I have preselected to all fit, I'm going to need to get them in a certain order. I should get the ones that I can move to SD first, and then get the ones that are not able to be moved.
I have heard that App 2 SD is a good program, although Froyo can probably do it on its own. Do I need App 2 SD?
I am wondering which of the following large-ish apps can be moved so that I don't need to install apps only to be forced to delete them because they cannot be moved:
1. Battleheart
2. Battleloot
3. Modern Conflict
4. Plague, Inc.
I e-mailed the support of each company first [except Miniclip for Plague, Inc. because their website nearly forced my PC to poop itself (see, no swearing!)]. None of the companies replied after 3 days, so I am hoping that collectively the users of this forum have these games and can tell me if they can be moved to an SD card without rooting the phone. Sorry if I have done something wrong by posting this here.
-ThePicotrain

Hi, when you have root use titanium backup. Luckypat..( I don't know i can say the name complete). Search for an old version, new one don't go with the patcher( hoppla). Titanium 5.50 or down.
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Thanks, but I was hoping to not root this phone. I basically want to leave it as it is (uninstalling only obviously unnecessary apps), and try to move the extra things I want to an SD card.

ThePicotrain said:
Thanks, but I was hoping to not root this phone. I basically want to leave it as it is (uninstalling only obviously unnecessary apps), and try to move the extra things I want to an SD card.
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If u want 2 use ur device as max, u'll find rooting is essentials as well as buying an android device., don't worry about rooting. U can use DTa2sd script to move almost all of /data size into /sd-ext partition of ur sd-card. & then pump ur self with all android apps.
Now, every week I root 2 deviced, more over it's reversable.
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mohazia said:
If u want 2 use ur device as max, u'll find rooting is essentials as well as buying an android device., don't worry about rooting. U can use DTa2sd script to move almost all of /data size into /sd-ext partition of ur sd-card. & then pump ur self with all android apps.
Now, every week I root 2 deviced, more over it's reversable.
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I understand, but I am really just looking to install apps without rooting. I was wondering if any of the above apps are movable.

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[Q] Important questions for choosing, NT vs KF

I am very Noob in this, but I have questions that I am sure that are gonna help a lot of people.
I am going to buy a cheap e-reader/tablet, and I have seen that the two best options are Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire.
The difference between the prices is 50USD, and I accept them. But I want to permanent root my device, so, the question is:
If I permanent root the Nook Tablet, will I be able to access all the device memory? Because without rooting it is limited to 1GB.. Will I be able to put for example 4gb of video without MicroSD?
Because if I cant access all the storage, I will have to buy a 16gb microSD.. So the difference between the two devices will be about 80USD, which is quite a lot.
The other questions are: Can you really access the Android Market and download apps if you root the Nook Tablet?
What does that means that the bootloader in the Nook tablet is locked? Is the rooting going to be unstable for that?
Thank you very much.
All these questions have been answered to other threads. Please read or search for them.
xdahgary said:
All these questions have been answered to other threads. Please read or search for them.
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I have been in a lot of forums, and I know perfectly that before you ask, you have to search for your questions. I have been about half hours looking for them, and I have found different answers, so I need the real one.
Some answers say that you can only access all the memory for the installed apps, but not for all the medias.. others say that you always need a MicroSD card.. so, tell me please, which of those threads is the truth?
skipped said:
Some answers say that you can only access all the memory for the installed apps, but not for all the medias.. others say that you always need a MicroSD card.. so, tell me please, which of those threads is the truth?
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The first one. You install to the internal, and can make folders (I suggest putting them in data or media, and not anywhere in the main directory) anywhere. Downloads from other app stores and ebook stores save all over the place, but usually by default to an SD card. Just learn to use a file manager and expect to root it.
It's easier to get every other application/store/video to run on a rooted Nook Tablet (compared to a KF), but it'll be much easier to make custom roms for a Kindle Fire due to the bootloader. What this means is that: if you have a kindle, you will sit around fiddling with rooting and unrooting if you want their Instant Video to work, until a whole new rom (entire OS overhaul) is available. In comparison you can root a Nook Tablet, and put whatever you want on it and run it and most things will work (if they're tablet apps, and depending on what stores you use), but it will be much harder to load a new OS on it, if ever. For someone who wants to hack and mod a tablet, they will want to do it on a device that is supports it (KF). For someone that wants to read books, play games, watch videos, read comics, very easily right off the bat (with 10 min of work), the Nook Tablet is better (and has a few important higher specs).
And the suggestion to find the many threads that answer your question wasn't "go out there and find other forums with lots of conflicting answers" but *SCROLL DOWN.*
skipped said:
I am very Noob in this, but I have questions that I am sure that are gonna help a lot of people.
I am going to buy a cheap e-reader/tablet, and I have seen that the two best options are Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire.
The difference between the prices is 50USD, and I accept them. But I want to permanent root my device, so, the question is:
If I permanent root the Nook Tablet, will I be able to access all the device memory? Because without rooting it is limited to 1GB.. Will I be able to put for example 4gb of video without MicroSD?
Because if I cant access all the storage, I will have to buy a 16gb microSD.. So the difference between the two devices will be about 80USD, which is quite a lot.
The other questions are: Can you really access the Android Market and download apps if you root the Nook Tablet?
What does that means that the bootloader in the Nook tablet is locked? Is the rooting going to be unstable for that?
Thank you very much.
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There are definitive answers, so I don't know that you've searched all that much. However, to answer some of your questions:
Yes, you can install the market once rooted, and the bootloader being locked means that the simplest solutions for installing new ROMs will not work. People are trying workarounds at the moment, but there is no ETA. This has no bearing on having the device rooted.
I think it is also important to mention that until a verified means of preventing OTA updates to the system is created, it is possible your device to become un-rooted after it updates itself.
So far, I have seen no sure-fire ways to prevent the NT from updating itself - only guesses. So your "permanent root" may not be so permanent for the time being.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
Is there even a patch for the zergrush expolit?
dkb218 said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
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For the KF at least, its coming in the form of silent updates. Once you're on wifi, the update is pushed down.
Honestly its a hazard of the game until we have different roms. If they plug the hole, they plug it. I'm holding out for the ROM solution, regardless of elegant/inelegant the solution proves to be.
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JoeM01 said:
For the KF at least, its coming in the form of silent updates. Once you're on wifi, the update is pushed down.
Honestly its a hazard of the game until we have different roms. If they plug the hole, they plug it. I'm holding out for the ROM solution, regardless of elegant/inelegant the solution proves to be.
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True enough. Often inelegant=most effective. Same when I first rooted my TF101. Used the ADB root. Which meant I had to self-teach ADB. Best thing that happened as not only I achieved root but learned something new that has helped with other devices.
dkb218 said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
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If the NT does OTA updates like the NC there is no prompt to accept the update, just a message that the update occurred. It is not the same as a phone.
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Moving apps to sd not working ?

Hi, just received the phone today. I'm trying to put some apps and stuff on my sandisk 64.gb but using app2.sd and app manager there doesn't seem to be an option. The sd card is showing in settings menu as 59gb.
How can I put stuff on it?
Sent from my Galaxy S3 using XDA
Why would you want to put your apps on the SD card? There is masses of space on the phones internal memory you'll be hard pushed to fill it.
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any good reasons for moving it to external sd????
btw looking at your post count i think you missed a bit of info. sgs3 uses the whole internal memory(11gb) for apps along with user data. so there is no need for app2sd
I just checked as well. I don't see that option with any of my apps using the Application manager. I'm using stock LEF firmware.
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bala_gamer said:
any good reasons for moving it to external sd????
btw looking at your post count i think you missed a bit of info. sgs3 uses the whole internal memory(11gb) for apps along with user data. so there is no need for app2sd
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It's a standard Android option, so it should have been included in the ROMs that Samsung designed in my opinion. Some people would like to use their 11GB of storage for other things, but have a huge external memory card.....just a matter of preference, no need to insult the person because of low posts.
bala_gamer said:
any good reasons for moving it to external sd????
btw looking at your post count i think you missed a bit of info. sgs3 uses the whole internal memory(11gb) for apps along with user data. so there is no need for app2sd
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don't jump to conclusions and make assumptions. I have 32gb on my phone and have used 16gb for apps. So no, 11gb would not cut it for me as well as others. your use of a phone is not the same as everyone. You are not the standard.
Why must the op provide YOU with a good reason to? Are you some sort of phone police?
Either provide a useful solution or find another thread to spread your ignorance.
ronj1986 said:
It's a standard Android option, so it should have been included in the ROMs that Samsung designed in my opinion. Some people would like to use their 11GB of storage for other things, but have a huge external memory card.....just a matter of preference, no need to insult the person because of low posts.
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its not an insult mate.. he might be missing that info hence i conveyed it to him. apart from gnexus and sgs3 all the mobile have limited data partitions which forces the need for app2sd, thats not the case with sgs3.
there are already many threads for this same thing , if the op searched for it he would have seen that info.
billybobjones said:
don't jump to conclusions and make assumptions. I have 32gb on my phone and have used 16gb for apps. So no, 11gb would not cut it for me as well as others. your use of a phone is not the same as everyone. You are not the standard.
Why must the op provide YOU with a good reason to? Are you some sort of phone police?
Either provide a useful solution or find another thread to spread your ignorance.
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can you tone it down???
your usage also wont set the standard for anyone, i just said the way how sgs3 handles apps.there is nothing wrong in asking a reason.
why do you people jump over in a friendly forum??
billybobjones said:
don't jump to conclusions and make assumptions. I have 32gb on my phone and have used 16gb for apps. So no, 11gb would not cut it for me as well as others. your use of a phone is not the same as everyone. You are not the standard.
Why must the op provide YOU with a good reason to? Are you some sort of phone police?
Either provide a useful solution or find another thread to spread your ignorance.
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Thanks for your support. Like you I also have a lot of apps so would prefer to put them on the sd
Sent from my GT-I9300 using XDA
bala_gamer said:
any good reasons for moving it to external sd????
btw looking at your post count i think you missed a bit of info. sgs3 uses the whole internal memory(11gb) for apps along with user data. so there is no need for app2sd
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Because he wants to isn't a good enough reason? Since when does post count determine how much lurking/reading someone has done on the forum? YOU may not have a need to but many of us do, whether you agree or not.
billybobjones said:
Why must the op provide YOU with a good reason to? Your use of a phone is not the same as everyone. You are not the standard.
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Agreed
916x10 said:
Because he wants to isn't a good enough reason? Since when does post count determine how much lurking/reading someone has done on the forum? YOU may not have a need to but many of us do, whether you agree or not.
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first of all nothing is said in an offensive way but its been understood in an offensive way. If the op has read enough then why do he post a question thats already been discussed? a simple search would have helped him to get other members opinion.
i agree with the point that there are many who read a lot here but dosent posts.
btw, stay on topic and try helping the op if you can
Xplorah said:
Hi, just received the phone today. I'm trying to put some apps and stuff on my sandisk 64.gb but using app2.sd and app manager there doesn't seem to be an option. The sd card is showing in settings menu as 59gb.
How can I put stuff on it?
Sent from my Galaxy S3 using XDA
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theres some apps mentioned in this thread, none of which seem to support the S3 yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694063&page=2
Hopefully developers will get this fixed sooner rather than later.
I don't have the device yet, so I can't really be of more help Im afraid.
bala_gamer said:
first of all nothing is said in an offensive way but its been understood in an offensive way. If the op has read enough then why do he post a question thats already been discussed? a simple search would have helped him to get other members opinion.
i agree with the point that there are many who read a lot here but dosent posts.
btw, stay on topic and try helping the op if you can
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It just gets tiresome hearing people try to dismiss the wants and wishes of another member just because they don't have the same. If we all wanted the same bs we'd all have iPhones for crying out loud. Embrace the differences!
I dont think 11gb is quite big for GAMES, i have installed max payne and its a 1.3gb game, some HD games dont go lower than 400mb.
So yes I need to move apps to the external SD. hoping to hear some updates about this
GL to SD
Guy until the developers find some solid solution you can use GL to SD app from market. It would move the Game Loft games from internal SD Card to External SD card. Although this app is for Game Loft games but it works for any game which install its data files in /sdcard/android/data or /sdcard/data folder.
Move them using the GL to SD and in the settings of GL to SD check the option /sdcard/Android under add mounted folder. Once done then price mount button the top of GL to SD app and then press menu and exit (don't press unmount and exit otherwise it would not work). This would mount your external SD card as /sdcard/android. If GL to SD fail to move the games to SD card then you can even do it manually by copying games data folder from /sdcard/android/data to /extsdcard/data and do the same procedure as above.
I am very poor in explaining things but I hope that I am able to explain it properly.

Which SD Cards Work With S5830i?

I saw a old thread similar to this but I wanted to post a new one because:
I have a 32gb class 10 San Disk sd card and it doesn't work with my phone. It doesn't readily read, i have to keep on reinserting it, and at times my phone asks to format it because its broken. I use a custom rom (razo droid latest version).
Which 32GB sd cards are reliable and definitely work with this phone? If people reply with one's that don't, I don't mind editing the first post with a list of SD cards to stay away from with this phone.
Nice development thread you got here. Is it too hard to go to the General section instead of development?
Try to ask it here
You will get more answers
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mc-sonic1 said:
I saw a old thread similar to this but I wanted to post a new one because:
I have a 32gb class 10 San Disk sd card and it doesn't work with my phone. It doesn't readily read, i have to keep on reinserting it, and at times my phone asks to format it because its broken. I use a custom rom (razo droid latest version).
Which 32GB sd cards are reliable and definitely work with this phone? If people reply with one's that don't, I don't mind editing the first post with a list of SD cards to stay away from with this phone.
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Nice development. Btw is this a ROM? A kernel? Or a scripts? I wanna apply this on my phone. Please add how to apply this on my phone please. I wanna make my phone super power like this.
instead of making jokes cant you just report this thread to mod??
-HellRaiser- said:
instead of making jokes cant you just report this thread to mod??
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Already Done Bro
I'm terribly sorry for making such a stupid mistake. Really I am, I know I'm a noob, and unfortunately too many people like me are here, sorry.
Going back to the post, from first hand experience should
san disk class 10 32gb micro sd card work on a custom rom of s5830i?
So what he accidentally posted in the wrong section,everyone makes mistakes... what I find funny is the fact that the people who are making fun of him attempt to do so with what they undoubtedly believe are witty comments and comebacks, but half the time they don't make sense and end up failing completely
To those of you who simply reported it to get it moved to the general section you're clearly more mature than most, especially those who simply have to post cocky comments
Back to the question now, I think 32 gig is supported, I had a problem like yours with my brand new 8 gig SD card it turns out there was a problem with it,i got it exchanged and everything works perfectly now, I suggest getting it checked out or exchanged especially if your phone keeps saying to format it because its damaged or unable to read it
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mc-sonic1 said:
I'm terribly sorry for making such a stupid mistake. Really I am, I know I'm a noob, and unfortunately too many people like me are here, sorry.
Going back to the post, from first hand experience should
san disk class 10 32gb micro sd card work on a custom rom of s5830i?
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I am happy that you realized that was a mistake
I hope you got your answer and
As a fellow user of XDA
Post your Questions here next time instead of creating new threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089279
Thanks both of you
Is there any way for me to delete this thread? I feel bad flooding this forum
Section.
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You haven't flooded the forum it's meant to be here, this is the place to put questions, as long as it's new and you've searched beforehand, areebjamal and others are only annoyed that noobs post new topics to easy questions without searching and easily finding there answer
No you can't delete it, only moderators can delete stuff
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[Q] More space?

Any way to get APP2SD Working? Just rooted and installed Google Edition ROM, however the avail storage is still the same.. the whole reason why I wanted to switch..
Please help!
Folder Mount. Google dropped support for apps to SD.
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nrnx said:
Any way to get APP2SD Working? Just rooted and installed Google Edition ROM, however the avail storage is still the same.. the whole reason why I wanted to switch..
Please help!
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You won't be able to get working apps to sd at this time unless you unroot and take the OTA update. However, from what I understand, the apps to sd doesn't really allow for a ton of extra internal storage.
Sorry about that mate, my mistake.
Yeah, I went back to stock since before I rooted/bootloadered I didn't notice the App2SD already hit US. I was expecting it to take some time to hit but I was mistaken.
I went back to non-rooted by flashing the OTA through Kies. To be honest, I like TouchWIZ, just hate all the space being taken up my phone has less than 1 gb left, and I figured ROMing it would resize the partitions. Is there currently anyway possible to resize the partition to 2 GB OS, 14GB Data? I thought that by now there would be someone that created a GE ROM that would have this working?
Anyway since I got the OTA, App2SD works, however it doesn't work for my largest files -- My games! I am using the GS4 as a mobile gaming device (primarily use the DNA for all else) and I have only 10 games installed (Fruit Ninja, Totemo HD, Montezuma 3, Final Fantasy III, Riptide GP, ShadowGun, Shine Runer, Sonic CD, PAC-MAN) and have others I have purchased over the last 3 years I want to install but don't have any more space. Only a few of the games actually moved their data over when I selected move to SD.
So I was trying to look online for a method of moving over the games in question, however just by searching for the game by nature it brings up too many warez sites and not enough real information. If anyone here knows of an APP that will move the data and change the game build to recognize where the Data is, please I would love some help
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Once again, I will point you in the direction of Folder Mount.
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LG L70 Dual [rooted] - How I get a better storage using a SD?

Hi. I'm new on XDA and what has brought me to this forum is a crap about my device storage, since I know REALLY nothing about smart devices .
As the title shows, my smartphone is a LG L70 Dual, with only 1,5 GB of free to use storage. It's an old and weak phone, however, I do not plan to buy another anytime soon.
I bought a new SD card and rooted it only trying to solve the problem, like creating links to the ExternalStorage, and other ways that included some apps. But I found no success, primarily because of my lack of knowledge. What I intended was to expand, link, or invert the storages, using the SD to install apps.
What I'm asking is some help to try to get what I want, but in some way I still understand what to do and have accuracy assurance and confidence that the method is safe if properly applied. Safe for the mobile and the SD. But I have no fear that the method is difficult, as long it be realizable and and whoever help me have patience for my ignorance.
Woah! I wrote too much ... I hope that someone help me, I really need this. Thanks

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