Just got the GT-I9100 International version for my daughter (we are on AT&T). What do I need to know before checking and installing updates? I started to check for updates but it asks for my location and I read somewhere about people who downloaded U.S. version (in the U.S.) and installed it on their non-U.S. phones and they screwed up the machine. I believe the phone is from Germany (the initial language when we turned it on was German).
Thanks.
sbi1 said:
Just got the GT-I9100 International version for my daughter (we are on AT&T). What do I need to know before checking and installing updates? I started to check for updates but it asks for my location and I read somewhere about people who downloaded U.S. version (in the U.S.) and installed it on their non-U.S. phones and they screwed up the machine. I believe the phone is from Germany (the initial language when we turned it on was German).
Thanks.
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There is no version of the i9100 sold in the US. What you probably read about is someone who flashed firmware or a ROM for the i777 (or some other different variant model) to an i9100. The i777 is the variant sold by AT&T. The i9100 is sold internationally.
As long as you stick to flashing things meant for the i9100, you should be fine.
Also, make sure of the exact model. There is also the i9100G variant, which is incompatible to the i9100 in terms of firmwares, kernels, and ROMs.
Just be careful, and if you intend on flashing anything, only use things meant for that exact model phone.
Thanks. I meant OTA update. If I check OTA update, isn't it getting updates from Samsung US or something like that?
BTW, these are the specifics of this device. I am also considering rooting it. Not sure what would be the best way though (I only have experience with rooting my I777) l.
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sbi1 said:
Thanks. I meant OTA update. If I check OTA update, isn't it getting updates from Samsung US or something like that?
BTW, these are the specifics of this device. I am also considering rooting it. Not sure what would be the best way though (I only have experience with rooting my I777) l.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda app-developers app
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I don't believe you'll get any OTA updates on the i9100 while in the US. I haven't, in over a year. Besides, you can turn it off. (OTA)
Aint the updates controlled by CSC?? From the pic it seems to be XW -> UK i guess? So you should still get UK updates ...
Rooting is simple (My guide is to skip rooting and jump straight for custom rom, but the steps to root are the same)
1. Download any version of CWM from here
2. Get desired rom (kernel too if you want)
3. Place everything in Externel SDcard
4. Boot into stock recovery (Power+Home+Vol up)
5. Use stock recovery to flash CWM
6. Backup Current stock rom
7. Wipe the usual
8. Flash Custom rom (Or just kernel)
9. Reboot
10. ?? Profit ??
Now you got Custom rom or Kernel + Full stock rom backup (can always get stock rom from sammobile if you lose it)
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Aint the updates controlled by CSC?? From the pic it seems to be XW -> UK i guess? So you should still get UK updates ...
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As I said, I have had this phone for over a year, bought from the UK, and never had an OTA update. I am in the US, and am an AT&T customer.
Thank you both!
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Aint the updates controlled by CSC?? From the pic it seems to be XW -> UK i guess? So you should still get UK updates ...
Rooting is simple (My guide is to skip rooting and jump straight for custom rom, but the steps to root are the same)
1. Download any version of CWM from here
2. Get desired rom (kernel too if you want)
3. Place everything in Externel SDcard
4. Boot into stock recovery (Power+Home+Vol up)
5. Use stock recovery to flash CWM
6. Backup Current stock rom
7. Wipe the usual
8. Flash Custom rom (Or just kernel)
9. Reboot
10. ?? Profit ??
Now you got Custom rom or Kernel + Full stock rom backup (can always get stock rom from sammobile if you lose it)
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Did I understand correctly? This is just a temporary CWM? How do I get a permanent CWM?
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Did I understand correctly? This is just a temporary CWM? How do I get a permanent CWM?
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By flashing a kernel that has it included. You can do this with a CWM flashable package from within the temporary CWM. Recovery is part of the kernel package on this phone.
This is where it comes into play that you make sure you flash a kernel meant for the i9100.
Recoveryception bro
Not sure why I cannot find stock in sammobile.
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As I said, I have had this phone for over a year, bought from the UK, and never had an OTA update. I am in the US, and am an AT&T customer.
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Reason I am asking about update is that the phone keeps 'suggesting' to check for Software Update and when I start the update process it asks me to choose which country I am at. So I am wondering what will happen if I download an update OTA. I read somewhere that it comes from Samsung US and Samsung US only have updates for US models.
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By flashing a kernel that has it included. You can do this with a CWM flashable package from within the temporary CWM. Recovery is part of the kernel package on this phone.
This is where it comes into play that you make sure you flash a kernel meant for the i9100.
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Do I need specific kernel for LPI (current is I9100XWLPI), or any kernel for I9100?
sbi1 said:
Reason I am asking about update is that the phone keeps 'suggesting' to check for Software Update and when I start the update process it asks me to choose which country I am at. So I am wondering what will happen if I download an update OTA. I read somewhere that it comes from Samsung US and Samsung US only have updates for US models.
Do I need specific kernel for LPI (current is I9100XWLPI), or any kernel for I9100?
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Depends. A custom kernel like Siyah will do. I don't think OTA works on this phone in the States.
I'm not a fan of all the advice that you're getting. The advice being given to you is for those who want to run custom firmware. You mentioned wanting the OTA (which won't likely happen for you as a user residing in the US). Simply download Samsung Kies and install on your desktop.
http://www.samsung.com/us/kies/
Once it detects your phone plugged in via USB, it will tell you which firmware you're on, and what the most recent firmware for your model is. If the most recent is newer than what you have, it will prompt you to update.
EDIT: See attached image for a screenshot of my Kies w/my SGS2 i9100.
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I'm not a fan of all the advice that you're getting. The advice being given to you is for those who want to run custom firmware. You mentioned wanting the OTA (which won't likely happen for you as a user residing in the US). Simply download Samsung Kies and install on your desktop.
http://www.samsung.com/us/kies/
Once it detects your phone plugged in via USB, it will tell you which firmware you're on, and what the most recent firmware for your model is. If the most recent is newer than what you have, it will prompt you to update.
EDIT: See attached image for a screenshot of my Kies w/my SGS2 i9100.
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Well, at the end of the day I do want to root and maybe even install a custom rom (trying to convince my daughter that it's safe ). I did root and run Shostock on my I777, but I don't have any experience with the I9100.
I don't necessarily want the OTA update, I was just worried that if I try to update it (currently 4.0.3...not sure if there is a newer version at all), the OTA will put something that does not belong there. As I said, I read somewhere about Samsung US downloading US version that doesn't work with the I9100.
If you want to root and rom, this is the right place. If you or your daughter are more comfortable with a stock ROM, get Kies. It's not going to download the US firmware. Here's why.
-you plug it in and it detects the phone, literally saying, "Hey, I have an i9100 here, not an i-777!"
-It looks for your current firmware, literally saying, "Hmm, I see UK 4.0.3 here, let's see if there's more current UK firmware."
-It then finds the more current firmware for what is currently installed, "Egads! There's a 4.0.4 UK firmware!"
Anyway, there is in fact a more recent firmware for your device (4.0.4) and it contains numerous bug fixes. I'd recommend installing Kies and running that update. Then, if you haven't done much with the phone yet, factory reset it to clean out any left over garbage. It will give you a smooth experience. And for what it's worth, I've had no desire to root/rom my SGS2. On my Incredible, not only did I root/rom, but I had my own project (Liberation) that I ran on these very boards. With the SGS2, there's been no need for me to do that.
Some like the "pure google experince"
So indeed we got an update through Kies. Thank you.
BTW - it is a German phone. It came with, and re-installed with the update, some German links/apps (I removed them when we first started it). For some reason the updated stock is not shown in the Kernel version as it did before (see pic).
Question: I am using TB on my I777. Maybe I'll skip the root on her phone, she will be going to college and I won't be around to fix things if needed . Is there an app to backup user apps without root?
sbi1 said:
So indeed we got an update through Kies. Thank you.
BTW - it is a German phone. It came with, and re-installed with the update, some German links/apps (I removed them when we first started it). For some reason the updated stock is not shown in the Kernel version as it did before (see pic).
Question: I am using TB on my I777. Maybe I'll skip the root on her phone, she will be going to college and I won't be around to fix things if needed . Is there an app to backup user apps without root?
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Since you are on german firmware, I'd recommend learning how to use ODIN as your next step. Switch it over to UK firmware. All apps are in English. Once you use Odin to switch over to a different country's firmware, Kies will only detect your device as being from the new country, and only look for compatible firmware within that country. This is something that you can do that won't require root, won't risk voiding your warranty (if you follow the simple instructions), and can be a precursor to root/romming if your daughter wants to go that route.
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Since you are on german firmware, I'd recommend learning how to use ODIN as your next step. Switch it over to UK firmware. All apps are in English. Once you use Odin to switch over to a different country's firmware, Kies will only detect your device as being from the new country, and only look for compatible firmware within that country. This is something that you can do that won't require root, won't risk voiding your warranty (if you follow the simple instructions), and can be a precursor to root/romming if your daughter wants to go that route.
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Thanks jaykresge. I am familiar with Odin. As I mentioned - my I777 is rooted. What I don't know though is how/where to get the correct UK firmware to replace the one I have and "UK'ing" the device
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I saw a guide pertaining to branded firmwares, but didn't see a guide regarding changing various countries firmware permanently to the Uk firmware. If there is guide on this subject, could you please direct me to it?
1. If you have a unlocked firmware from one of the various countries, how do you flash to the UK unlocked Firmware?
2. Additionally, if and when you are able to flash to the UK unlocked firmware what needs to be changed so that your phone is recognized as a UK unlocked firmware phone (to always get the latest updates)?
3. The latest update on Kies just released, this is available for UK unlocked phones?
4. If the UK firmware always gets the updates first, then why doesn't everyone update their phone to the UK firmware?
AC
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I saw a guide pertaining to branded firmwares, but didn't see a guide regarding changing various countries firmware permanently to the Uk firmware. If there is guide on this subject, could you please direct me to it?
1. If you have a unlocked firmware from one of the various countries, how do you flash to the UK unlocked Firmware?
All firmware is unlocked flash firmware via ODIN .
Details in the STOCK rom post in dev section .
3. The latest update on Kies just released, this is available for UK unlocked phones?
All Phones that match product codes .
4. If the UK firmware always gets the updates first, then why doesn't everyone update their phone to the UK firmware?
Because the UK has never got the firmware first you are misinformed .
Samsung release firmware by location its sent to the network providers who then choose to update or not they send it to Kies .
Stock rom post dev section .
jje
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Thanks. Also:
1. Doesn't Europe in general usually get the lastest updates first?
2. Is there a carrier that you can flash your phone to so that you will always get the latest updates?
3. Cant you flash your phone to a different country firmware? Isn't the advantage of this that you would always get the firmware first if that particular area usually has them first?
4. Carriers in what particular area get the firmwares first?
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Attackcenter said:
1. Doesn't Europe in general usually get the lastest updates first?
No it varies but probably more towards the front of the queue
2. Is there a carrier that you can flash your phone to so that you will always get the latest updates?
No
3. Cant you flash your phone to a different country firmware? Isn't the advantage of this that you would always get the firmware first if that particular area usually has them first?
Yes if your supposition was true .
In which case Europe firmware .
4. Carriers in what particular area get the firmwares first?
None they all get them at the same time from Samsung and they decide if and when to release .
Most XDA users flash latest firmware stock Samsung via Odin from dev section stock roms or Samfirmware.com. That gets the latest firmware .
Current latest is KG3 .
jje
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Appreciate the help. Few more Q's
1. I have seen at least one person that bricked his phone using Odin? How rare is that? Isn't there an safety advantage of taking a chance with flashing your phone to Europe firmware and always getting your firmware from Kies?
2. The KG3, is that a beta leak or the final release version?
3. If your phone is unlocked, would KG3 eventually be available through Kies? What's an estimated time frame?
4. Have any of the updates in the past been rolled out OTA and not through Kies? If so is this for carrier locked phones only?
Thanks,
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Attackcenter said:
1. I have seen at least one person that bricked his phone using Odin? How rare is that? Isn't there an safety advantage of taking a chance with flashing your phone to Europe firmware and always getting your firmware from Kies?
Safety Odin v Kies Odin about 1% chance of bricking phone rising to 100% if not following instructions .
KIES about 15% chance of a failed firmware update
return to Samsung for a fix .(or use Odin as thats what Samsung will use )
2. The KG3, is that a beta leak or the final release version?
Its not a Beta .
3. If your phone is unlocked, would KG3 eventually be available through Kies? What's an estimated time frame?
Eventually 3 weeks to 3 months time scale or nobody really knows .
4. Have any of the updates in the past been rolled out OTA and not through Kies? If so is this for carrier locked phones only?
OTA only just switched on July and testing inplace though it does seem to have started its carrier roll out for some phones .
Should be both Kies and OTA but we dont really know yet .
jje
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Very Helpful thanks. ?
1. I've heard if you update to KG3, you have to wipe your phone in the process. What is the equivalent to wiping on the I9100? Does it mean that your everything will be wiped clean including settings, apps, miscelanous files, and videos? Of just your settings will be reset?
3. Does the process of upgrading to KG3 include having to root? Because of there being more steps involved because of a wipe, is there any reason not to just root your phone? Is your phone rooted?
2. If KG3 does include the process of having to do a "full wipe" equivalent to a format, and then is there any reason not to just update with the most recommended and stable custom roms?
3. Do you have KG3 on yours? If so do you have the full KG3 or partial, please explain? Do you have one of the custom roms
I've thanked you on every post and hope everyone else does the same.
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Attackcenter said:
1. I've heard if you update to KG3, you have to wipe your phone in the process. What is the equivalent to wiping on the I9100? Does it mean that your everything will be wiped clean including settings, apps, miscelanous files, and videos? Of just your settings will be reset?
Wipe is everything .
3. Does the process of upgrading to KG3 include having to root?
No
Because of there being more steps involved because of a wipe, is there any reason not to just root your phone? You van just root .
Is your phone rooted?
ALWAYS from day two .
2. If KG3 does include the process of having to do a "full wipe" equivalent to a format, and then is there any reason not to just update with the most recommended and stable custom roms?
No you could use one of the roms no problem .
3. Do you have KG3 on yours? If so do you have the full KG3 or partial, please explain? Do you have one of the custom roms
Current is Cognition rom 1.2 KG2 based later release 1.3 is KG3 but i have not bothered to update to 1.30
Also Villain Rom both in dev section .
If i update to a new rom as in new builder i do a full wipe and reinstall my apps as a matter of course and then would not update again just for minor upgrades in the rom . Preferring to wait and see if their is any real reason to upgrade .
Recovery to warranty state is a matter of flashing a stock Samsung rom or the correct branded rom for the phone even an old one . Resetting the custom rom counter via the usb recovery jig and Samsung non the wiser .
Lot of users rush in to putting a custom rom on the phone followed by multiple custom roms and never bothering to read the instructions end up with a bricked phone . but a bricked SGS has a 99% chance of recovery by flashing a stock rom back .
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Thanks for all of your help. Comment/Question
I went ahead and updated to the No wipe KG3, posted by Intratech and found here:
Frankenstein non-wipe package:http://www.multiupload.com/G3X5DJSUBK
I noticed that Intratech also posted the Stock XXKG3 kernel: http://www.multiupload.com/7LEXO574OT
Password: [email protected]
1. Is there any advantage of installing a wipe vs no wipe package? Will a no wipe package now or in time leave remnants of installations and eventually not give you a clean installation?
2. What was the intention of the posting of the Kernel? What is it for? Doesn't the NO Wipe package already include this?
I had not known exactly what to expect (even with the title no wipe). So I backed up my apps with Super Manager and App Backup. I also backed up my APN'S with APN Backup and Restore and APN Manager. I flashed with the instructions by Intratech at: (which was painless) at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Afterwords I found this was an easy and painless process. All of my apps, settings, and APN's were still there and intact (didn't even require the backups as I presumed).
3. I notice that I am able to just use the windows explorer to move files directly to my i9100 now instead of having to use Kies. Was this always the case? I am not sure because I had crashing when I tried to do this before. I do notice however, that when I move supported files directly to the device through explorer that works fine, but when I tried to move an unsupported movie format (ts movie file) to the i9100 it crashes and won't let me do it? Is this because my I9100 isn't rooted that it is restricting me from doing this?
4. What are the advantages of rooting for you?
Hey everyone,
First post, n00b question - please be gentle.
First, I'll start with a positive. I have come from using an iPhone, and I was quiet comfortable with jailbreaking and cydia. I now have a Samsung Galaxy S 2 / II (GT-I9100T). I am from Australia, and on the Telstra network. Whoever is in the same boat would know it is quiet an adjustment, but you can root! (if you wanted to know).
I followed this persons 3 part guide and with sucess:
I cannot post the link but it is on YouTube and the video title is:
How To Root The Samsung Galaxy S II - Part 1
How To Root The Samsung Galaxy S II - Part 2
How To Root The Samsung Galaxy S II - Part 3
Username is mattj101101
I had Android 2.3.3 installed.
Second part is a question, is there any debranding roms / kernals that is ok for the GT-I9100T? I have tried the *#272*IMEI# but it only had 'Preconfig - TEL'
My phones info:
PDA: 19100TDVKF4
PHONE: I9100TDVKF2
CSC: I9100TTELFK3
My Kernal version, after the root is 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKDD-CL161513root<insertATsymbol>DELL103 #2
Hopefully with these answers I can help other fellow people out with this particular model (that are sold in Australia). Also if someone has the stock Telstra rom for re-flashing (if needed for warrenty) please point me in the right direction.
Thank-you.
Hey,
Ive got the GT-I9100T from Vodafone (both can run on the telstra bandwidth now ) and have had no issues flashing most roms. Only thing you may notice is the new modems aren't as good as the stock ones you currently have, so you may need to reflash the original modem through odin to get the best support.
Before you do flash though, make sure you back up your /efs folder, it contains the bin files for your IMEI for your phone, and people have reported flashing a rom can change that, so beware! also, before you do flash, try find the stock telstra rom for your phone incase you need to reflash. There are a few threads about it all, so good luck
The i9100T can use i9100 roms, but it will change the product code to i9100.
Easiest way to root is using CF-root, match the part of the version number in bold "PDA: 19100TDVKF4"
My phones info:
PDA: The rom/kernel
PHONE: The modem/radio, responsable for signal quality and speed, you dont need to match this to rom version, and the best way to find a good one is to test different ones.
CSC: APN settings and bundles apps, no need to match this, but if you do chose to all you may have todo is enter your APN settings for internet and MMS manually.
You can flash any rom onto any SGS2 via odin, see this guide, that will debrand etc.
Also, you rooted using a very old insecure kernel, people have had random reboots with that one, I suggest you flash back your stock kernel (you will keep root) or flash a version of cf-root (you will gain clockworkmod recovery, a way to flash roms/etc from your phone, and nandroid, a whole phone backup system, like snapshots)
I would recommend flashing DarkyRom2 on your S2. Runs fast, stable and great battery life. It roots your phone as well and changes your kernel to SuperCore which has a lot of optimisations.
Instructions:
Since you're not rooted (stock firmware/kernel)
1. Flash SuperCore_1.7.tar with Odin (put in PDA and do NOT tick repartition)
2. Get DarkyROM2 Tool and Superuser from market
3. Upload DarkyROM2_XXKH3_Base_R2.zip to SD-Card (INTERNAL)
4. Open DarkyROM2 tool. Accept SuperUser access request notification (this confirms you are rooted.
4. Under the DarkyRom tab, be sure "Wipe User data" is selected AND "INSTALL MODEM" is NOT SELECTED. (this will wipe everything from your phone but keep your stock KF4 modem. Any other modem causes signal problems for our I-9100T. )
5. No need to select "Install Kernel" Since SuperCore 1.7 is already installed.
5. Go back to the General Tab and use "Flash/Install File from SDCARD" to browse to and install DarkyROM2_XXKH3_Base_R2.zip
6. Wait for the phone to reboot and flash the new firmware
Get the files here:
http://www.darkyrom.com/community/index.php?threads/rom-cwm-sgs2-darkyrom2-kh3-base.4950/
I modified the instructions given on that link and posted it above for you since it's a little different for our I-9100T phones.
more info on I-9100T here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16824749&postcount=10
Interestingly, I just purchased a SGS2 here in Thailand (I'm also an Aussie) and the model of the phone is GT-I9100T.
Unfortunately I cannot seem to find a KL2 kernel for CF-Root to patch it with... any suggestions?
Also, the site that held all the OEM kernels (MultiUpload) for download is now showing a "Shut down by the FBI" logo : )
As long as you're certain you've got a I9100T, use the KL1 CFRoot kernel. Will work fine.
ApriliaM3 said:
Interestingly, I just purchased a SGS2 here in Thailand (I'm also an Aussie) and the model of the phone is GT-I9100T.
Unfortunately I cannot seem to find a KL2 kernel for CF-Root to patch it with... any suggestions?
Also, the site that held all the OEM kernels (MultiUpload) for download is now showing a "Shut down by the FBI" logo : )
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My phone details are as follows:
Model: GT-I9100T
Android: 2.3.6
Baseband: I9100TDCKL1
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-I9100TDCKL2-CL767350 [email protected]#2
Build: GINGERBREAD.DCKL2
This is not an Aussie phone such as the Telstra I9100T that I see spoken about.
I purchased this phone here in Thailand 3 days ago and I have a few questions.
1. Is there a way to backup the original kernel before rooting?
2. Will the KL1 kernal make me lose things such as Thai language options etc?
3. Any way to restore the KL2 kernel in the future?
Thanks for taking the time to reply!
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As long as you're certain you've got a I9100T, use the KL1 CFRoot kernel. Will work fine.
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1) Doubt it. And the only link for DCKL2/Thailand in Intra's official firmware thread is dead as it was MegaUpload, and he more than likely won't have a backup (you could always ask him tho). Search around elsewhere online, you might find a copy of this kernel somewhere.
2) I don't know for certain, but I don't think so. I would have thought something like language would be more firmware-related.
3) Refer to 1) I don't see why you'd need to ? In order to get warranty service from Samsung, all you'd need to do is flash the most recent firmware available for your phone (for all they know you could easily have got this from an OTA update via Kies), do a factory reset/make sure there's no apps left on your phone that could tip off whomever repairs it that the phone was rooted, and use a jig to reset the flash counter. Obviously there are no rolled gold guarantees with getting warranty service once you've voided same by rooting the phone/running non-stock firmware firmware on it, tho.
ApriliaM3 said:
My phone details are as follows:
Model: GT-I9100T
Android: 2.3.6
Baseband: I9100TDCKL1
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-I9100TDCKL2-CL767350 [email protected]#2
Build: GINGERBREAD.DCKL2
This is not an Aussie phone such as the Telstra I9100T that I see spoken about.
I purchased this phone here in Thailand 3 days ago and I have a few questions.
1. Is there a way to backup the original kernel before rooting?
2. Will the KL1 kernal make me lose things such as Thai language options etc?
3. Any way to restore the KL2 kernel in the future?
Thanks for taking the time to reply!
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I was just worried it might stop future updates to ICS or similar via Kies.
At least I think I've managed to find another copy of the latest kernal on a site other than MegaUpload...
It's at 50% and counting : )
3) Refer to 1) I don't see why you'd need to ? In order to get warranty service
Running a CFRoot kernel over stock firmware should still allow you to receive OTA updates via Kies. If you find it doesn't, simply use Checkfus (search for it on here), it allows you to find/download the latest firmware for your phone/country that you'd normally get via Kies.
Really ? Cool Might wanna post a linky to your source over in Intra's thread. I'm sure there will be other people who might need it at some stage.
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I was just worried it might stop future updates to ICS or similar via Kies.
At least I think I've managed to find another copy of the latest kernal on a site other than MegaUpload...
It's at 50% and counting : )
3) Refer to 1) I don't see why you'd need to ? In order to get warranty service
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Ok so would you believe...
I ran the guide from Intra.
Installed an insecure ROM and then ran SuperOneClick and was rooted.
I restored the OEM kernel that I found online and BINGO - UNROOTED!
I repeated the procedure just to check everything again... same deal!
Phone is currently unrooted again...
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Running a CFRoot kernel over stock firmware should still allow you to receive OTA updates via Kies. If you find it doesn't, simply use Checkfus (search for it on here), it allows you to find/download the latest firmware for your phone/country that you'd normally get via Kies.
Really ? Cool Might wanna post a linky to your source over in Intra's thread. I'm sure there will be other people who might need it at some stage.
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Yeah, if you flash an original (unrooted) kernel over your rooted kernel you'll lose root.
There's a procedure for removing the yellow warning triangle at boot in the CFRoot thread & also retaining root, but I found it too fiddly when I first rooted my phone so I simply bought a jig & did it that way.
I can't speak for anything to do with SuperOneClick as I've never used it.
ApriliaM3 said:
Ok so would you believe...
I ran the guide from Intra.
Installed an insecure ROM and then ran SuperOneClick and was rooted.
I restored the OEM kernel that I found online and BINGO - UNROOTED!
I repeated the procedure just to check everything again... same deal!
Phone is currently unrooted again...
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Apparently so... now I'm confused about what the guide was trying to achieve.
Also, Kies now tells me it's not compatible with my device... Perfect!
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Yeah, if you flash an original (unrooted) kernel over your rooted kernel you'll lose root.
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As I said, I have no idea whatsoever about anything to do with SuperOneClick. If you want a rooted phone minus the yellow warning triangle at boot without fiddling around, root it with a CFRoot kernel, buy a $3 jig from eBay, done.
So far as Kies not working, you could try uninstalling/reinstalling Kies, or simply use Checkfus as I've said previously. Me, I'd use Checkfus. Quick, easy & like the paragraph above, no fiddling around.
Edit to add - Yes, obviously Kies won't work if you're running an "insecure rom" as per your post above. I presume you mean a custom rom you found somewhere on here or elsewhere ? One of my earlier posts did say Kies should (not always) work if you're running a rooted kernel over a stock Samsung rom. If you're running a non-stock rom Kies won't work.
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Apparently so... now I'm confused about what the guide was trying to achieve.
Also, Kies now tells me it's not compatible with my device... Perfect!
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ApriliaM3 said:
Apparently so... now I'm confused about what the guide was trying to achieve.
Also, Kies now tells me it's not compatible with my device... Perfect!
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Yeah, if you flash an original (unrooted) kernel over your rooted kernel you'll lose root.
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Ditch Kies there is a better alternative out there. MyphoneExplore, do a seach via google. You'll also need to get the app client software from the android market. I use it to synch my work Outlook Calendar to my phone. You can also back up your contacts, sms and call records.
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Edit: I tried CF-Root KL3 (wanted KL2) and it seems fine so far.
I have root and everything else seems the same (Thai language support etc.)
I'll keep you posted : )
Thanks for taking the time to deal with my issues!
Hope I can do the same for some others on this Forum in the future.
I'd not heard of Checkfus so I'll give that a try, thanks : )
There's no CF-Root to match my phone exactly but I guess there's nothing to lose now by trying something close : P
I ordered the jig almost a week before getting the phone but it seems the postage to Thailand is sloooow.
I'm running a stock ROM and unrooted but Kies is still misbehaving.
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As I said, I have no idea whatsoever about anything to do with SuperOneClick. If you want a rooted phone minus the yellow warning triangle at boot without fiddling around, root it with a CFRoot kernel, buy a $3 jig from eBay, done.
So far as Kies not working, you could try uninstalling/reinstalling Kies, or simply use Checkfus as I've said previously. Me, I'd use Checkfus. Quick, easy & like the paragraph above, no fiddling around.
Edit to add - Yes, obviously Kies won't work if you're running an "insecure rom" as per your post above. I presume you mean a custom rom you found somewhere on here or elsewhere ? One of my earlier posts did say Kies should (not always) work if you're running a rooted kernel over a stock Samsung rom. If you're running a non-stock rom Kies won't work.
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Something may have borked so far as the CSC goes (which tells Kies, the Market, etc where you are). I did say you should be able to use Kies, you're not the first person to have problems with it after rooting
Personally speaking, I've never used Kies & almost certainly won't use it. Ever. Custom roms/kernels are a piece of you know what to flash via CWRecovery (or Odin for that matter), and official firmware updates are easy to get with Checkfus & flash via Odin if I ever have to go down that path for warranty purposes or whatever.
Kies is a truly awful piece of software
Edit to add after your edit - No worries
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I'd not heard of Checkfus so I'll give that a try, thanks : )
I'm running a stock ROM and unrooted but Kies is still misbehaving.
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Yeah Kies is dodgy...
When I got home I plugged it into Kies on the home PC and everything was fine!
Have you experimented much with any Custom ROM's?
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Something may have borked so far as the CSC goes (which tells Kies, the Market, etc where you are). I did say you should be able to use Kies, you're not the first person to have problems with it after rooting
Kies is a truly awful piece of software
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I went to software update and there is a 197mb update on my phone then i started to download and it downloaded just fine but after rebooting it is failed always at 12% and meesage comes up " update through kies or contact samsung"... on kies there is no update.
My phone is not rooted.S II I9100 from KSA.
anyone?
This is what exactly going on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHkU_57zmlM&feature=player_embedded
Assuming you're running stock & have never messed with (rooted/run non stock firmware) the phone, try a factory reset/wipe in the first instance (boot into recovery), then try the update again.
You could flash a stock ICS rom manually with Odin, but be aware if you bork it in the process (very unlikely/small risk, but still a risk nonetheless), you'll likely not get it fixed under warranty. Get the PC version of Checkfus if you want to go down this route (search for it on here/Google), this will enable you to download the update manually, then flash it following the instructions here.
Ton need at least 40% to install an update.
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Assuming you're running stock & have never messed with (rooted/run non stock firmware) the phone, try a factory reset/wipe in the first instance (boot into recovery), then try the update again.
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actually i have rooted my phone before 2 months but now it is not rooted... i just want to install official ICS using kies or through OTA ...don't want to root again.
Then take your pick. Do the reset & try it again (make sure you've got at least 40% battery; I think that's what JT meant), or do it manually with Odin. Or try the first option, then the 2nd one.
Up to you.
Also, if you can't find the firmware you need with Checkfus, search Samfirmware or here
Edit after your edit - In that case definitely the first option. If it doesn't work & you don't want to do it manually, take it to a Samsung service centre & ask them to put the latest firmware on it for you.
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Then take your pick. Do the reset & try it again (make sure you've got at least 40% battery; I think that's what JT meant), or do it manually with Odin. Or try the first option, then the 2nd one.
Up to you.
Also, if you can't find the firmware you need with Checkfus, search Samfirmware or here
Edit after your edit - In that case definitely the first option. If it doesn't work & you don't want to do it manually, take it to a Samsung service centre & ask them to put the latest firmware on it for you.
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Ok, after reseting there is no update available on my phone when i try to update using phone.
OK. Have you ever flashed any other stock firmware on the phone ? I have two theories about this 'upgrade' - one; if you've flashed stock firmware for other regions on your phone, there's may be some issue with the CSC (even if you're currently running correct firmware for your region) preventing you from getting OTA updates successfully. Also, the update you saw may have been not for your region, because your CSC is messed up , it may have tried to pull an update for the region whose firmware you had on the phone previously. And when you did a reset it might have somehow fixed the issue with the CSC, and there is no update for your region. Conjecture, but hard to know exactly without knowing the history of the phone & exactly what you've done it.
Two; the size of the update sounds a bit strange. I would have thought it would be bigger than 197MB. Even zipped, I have a carrier branded ICS firmware and it's huge (>700MB). That you were able to download it, yet there was nothing on Kies is really strange.
Go into settings/about phone & tell me all the details you have in there. Also tell me everything you've done with the phone since you got it so far as rooting/flashing other firmware goes (details of kernels, roms, etc). And we'll see if we can shed a bit more light on things.
And one other thing, in your last post you say there's no update on the phone, have you checked Kies again. If not, have a look.
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it may have tried to pull an update for the region whose firmware you had on the phone previously. And when you did a reset it might have somehow fixed the issue with the CSC, and there is no update for your region. Conjecture
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This might be true
Go into settings/about phone & tell me all the details you have in there
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I bought S2 from Saudi Arabia.
baseband version: I9100XXKI4
Kernal Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100JPKJ2-CL655700 [email protected] #2
GBuild Number: GINGERBREAD.JPKJ2
]Also tell me everything you've done with the phone since you got it so far as rooting/flashing other firmware goes (details of kernels, roms, etc). And we'll see if we can shed a bit more light on things.
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I have used this guide for rooting http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s2-...t/482994-rooting-galaxy-s2-dummies-guide.html
but after trying 5 or 6 custom ROMS i just unroot my phone.
And one other thing, in your last post you say there's no update on the phone, have you checked Kies again. If not, have a look.
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no update on kies either.
I have also used this method toinstall official stock firmware http://www.technetinfo.in/mobile/mobile-software/stock-gingerbread.html
let me quote my own message while i was having problem with CSC.
k i did factory reset and wipe all data now it doesn't show "that device doest not support software upgrading via KIES" but firmware info is totally different now, it is suppose to be (KSA) not (XSG).
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one thing more i would like to mention here is that before rooting....KIES showing
PDA:KJ2 / PHONE:KI4: / CSC KJ1 (KSA)
now it's showing
PDA:KJ2 / PHONE:KI4: / CSC KJ1 (XSG)
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FIXED BY CHANGING CSC CODE
OK. Given all that, then it's obviously a CSC issue. Which means either it showed an update was available for the wrong region, and now that CSC issue has been resolved. Or there is an update for your region but your CSC is messed up so it can't get the update.
I've had a look at Checkfus, and the stock rom you're currently running is the latest for Saudi Arabia (GT-I9100LKAKSA -I9100JPKJ2/I9100OJPKJ1/I9100XXKI4/I9100JPKJ2) which was released on 25/10/2011.
So I'd say that update you saw was for another region, and the factory reset you did fixed whatever issue there was. There are no updates for your region, put it that way.
Edit - Unless it's some kind of minor carrier specific update ? That could explain the relatively small size of the one you saw. I guess you could find this out by contacting your carrier.
Thanks a lot MistahBungle, i really appreciate your help.
Now i have changed my CSC code from (KSA) to (JED) and now i'm getting official update from kies. Just curious about changing CSC, is there any negative effect on my phone in future by just changing CSC code?
Given you're getting OTA updates OK, probably not. Normally if you change your CSC to a different region, you often have problems getting OTA firmware updates. If it's working for you, it's obviously fine.
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Given you're getting OTA updates OK, probably not. Normally if you change your CSC to a different region, you often have problems getting OTA firmware updates. If it's working for you, it's obviously fine.
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not sure about OTA but on KIES it is showing my firmware info correctly, i mean i can get updates through KIES without any issues.
suppose if i want to change my CSC back to original one (KSA) then what will happen?
As long as you can get it via Kies you're set. And even if you couldn't, it's simple to download the firmware with Checkfus & flash it via Odin. That's what I'd do if I were on rooted stock, for example (but I probably wouldn't be in any event).
I don't know. Try it & find out. Yes, I'm serious. I hate stock firmware, it's rubbish, and haven't run it since the first week I got my phone. So I honestly don't know.
Well it's regarding rooting.
I heard it opens up a world of opportunity with your smartphone, and some apps I really want are only available vain rooted phones. I have the Samsung galaxy s3 international version. It was originally from Australia if that matters at all. It is on 4.0.4. Anyways, being a noob to android more or less, and being a bit apprehensive (because I have no warranty and I cannot obtain another phone easily) I was wondering basically how risky it is to brick your phone in a) the process of rooting your phone. Is it common? If it does get bricked is it reversable by a restore or simply gone? Also after rooting, is there any upkeep or management I need to do to make sure my rooted phone does not screw up? And lastly. What is the safest and easiest way to root the international quad core gs3 on ics. Thank you to everyone for your time
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Well it's regarding rooting.
I heard it opens up a world of opportunity with your smartphone, and some apps I really want are only available vain rooted phones. I have the Samsung galaxy s3 international version. It was originally from Australia if that matters at all. It is on 4.0.4. Anyways, being a noob to android more or less, and being a bit apprehensive (because I have no warranty and I cannot obtain another phone easily) I was wondering basically how risky it is to brick your phone in a) the process of rooting your phone. Is it common? If it does get bricked is it reversable by a restore or simply gone? Also after rooting, is there any upkeep or management I need to do to make sure my rooted phone does not screw up? And lastly. What is the safest and easiest way to root the international quad core gs3 on ics. Thank you to everyone for your time
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Well, most you could pick up be reading a bit, everything is already explained around here but since i was in your shoes very recently:
- there's always a risk. You need to be aware of that. That said, most cases that actually go wrong it's usually user's fault who failed to follow instructions closely. So read them. And read some more. And then read again just to make sure. And then i'd read again.
I used this very recent method from chainfire (salute and donate to the man if you like and can, he deserves it) to root my 4.0.4 international GT-I9300 S3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273
Triangled away next and everything worked like a charm. This preserves everything as stock as possible just adding root to your phone.
- from what i can tell, as long as you don't do anything that messes with the bootloader, you can always recover from a procedure gone wrong. Just disconnect, remove battery, insert and try again. Rebooting the computer or changing usb ports usually helps too (on odin).
- after rooting successfully, the very first thing you should do is backup your /efs folder. This is easy, just pick up root explorer or some other file manager that allows exploring you root (/), go up in your folders until you get to / look for the efs folder and just copy it (NOT MOVE) elsewhere (sd card, external sd, your computer preferably, whatever, just have that safe). This will come in handy in case you lose your imei at some point. Just restore this folder's contents and you're good to go. If that happens and you don't have a backup, it's a f'ing pain you can do well without.
- anything else root related is just common sense. Since you have the potential to screw up your entire phone with root permissions (this is why you don't have them in the first place), if an app pops up asking for root permissions, be sure what it is before allowing. If you're not sure, you can always deny first and allow later in the superuser app.
- you can also look into backing up with nandroid. You can think of this as an image of your entire phone. With this you can restore your phone to the same state it was when you did it. Useful when something went wrong and your phone doesn't boot anymore or you just wanted to try new roms with the option of coming back to what you had before. Not sure how you do it on the S3 still, but it usually requires a modified recovery like CWM. The method to root above doesn't install one though, it preserves what you had. Check this instead if you're interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
Cheers dude, i'm sure everything will go well for you too.
Chance of a brick about .0001 % rising to 100% for those that are to lazy to read follow instructions .
BASICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
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Thankyou very much to everyone who has read and replied to this. 3 more minor questions. Is there a way to first update my phone to jellybean 4.1 via Odin or something like that? Or is this possible after root, because I don't want to stay on ics. Also what exactly happens if I update while rooted. Does it wipe or unroot my phone or the like? Also should my phone be in use debugging, and lastly what does it mean to unlock my bootloaders? That was more than 3 questions sorry thanks again
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Thankyou very much to everyone who has read and replied to this. 3 more minor questions. Is there a way to first update my phone to jellybean 4.1 via Odin or something like that? Or is this possible after root, because I don't want to stay on ics. Also what exactly happens if I update while rooted. Does it wipe or unroot my phone or the like? Also should my phone be in use debugging, and lastly what does it mean to unlock my bootloaders? That was more than 3 questions sorry thanks again
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1) You don't need to root to update to JB.
Just download any ROM you want from http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9300 (I recommend the UK unbranded ROM, BTU) then use Odin3 to flash it to your devices. Search the forums for specific instructions on this procedure. I'll just tell that it takes no more than 2-3 minutes.
2) If you're going to root, I suggest you do it beforehand, by flashing a kernel like Siyah (in ICS), and then proceed to flashing the stock JB ROM, HOWEVER, instead of using Odin3, you will use MobileOdion (available from Play Store), because that way you'll have a fully rooted and stock device.
3) Using step 2 above, it will not wipe not unroot your phone. It is safe and retains all your settings. That is the beauty of MobileOdin. There is a free version.
If you root and THEN install via Odin (PC), then you'll lose root, but not your settings.
In either case, you only wipe the device IF YOU WANT TO.
So, the best option is to:
a) Install SiyahKernel using Odin3 (PC)
b) Download the JB BTU ROM from http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9300
c) Extract the .md5 from the ZIP file and move it to the device's ext. sd card
d) Install MobileOdin in the device
e) Use MobileOdin to flash the .md5 you moved to it in step (c)
f) install TriangleAway (download from XDA) and run it to reset binary counter (which got incremented in step [a] )
Results: rooted, JB, stock, all settins retained, no binary counter increment
Simonetti2011 I have been searching the internet here in New Zealand and that has been the best answer I have found so far!
I do have a slight question thought. I live in New Zealand and have the GT-I9300T model of the GS3 and I'm wanting to install the international unbranded rom for that I can get updates faster (here in NZ it takes months and months to get updates)
I downloaded the International UK unbranded firmware 4.0.4 and was going to flash that rom onto my phone then upgrade to jelly bean via kies but have since relised I should just download the jellybean UK firmware straight away. Do you by any chance havea link to the firmware that I would need, I noticed there were a few different versions.
Also about the CSC, would I need to do any changes?
Many many thanks in advance, Sorry for hijacking this thread, just figured I was on the same pages as the OP
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Simonetti2011 I have been searching the internet here in New Zealand and that has been the best answer I have found so far!
I do have a slight question thought. I live in New Zealand and have the GT-I9300T model of the GS3 and I'm wanting to install the international unbranded rom for that I can get updates faster (here in NZ it takes months and months to get updates)
I downloaded the International UK unbranded firmware 4.0.4 and was going to flash that rom onto my phone then upgrade to jelly bean via kies but have since relised I should just download the jellybean UK firmware straight away. Do you by any chance havea link to the firmware that I would need, I noticed there were a few different versions.
Also about the CSC, would I need to do any changes?
Many many thanks in advance, Sorry for hijacking this thread, just figured I was on the same pages as the OP
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The 9300T and the 9300 are NOT the same device, therefore they use different firmware (ROM). The ROMs for the 9300T are here: http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9300T
I don't think there is a 9300T ROM for the UK, since the model released there is the 9300 (non-T).
It seems that either Samsung-updates hasn't indexed any ROMs for your model or they haven't been released.
About CSC: just don't worry about it... download and flash any ROM you want for your specific model and don't worry. If you don't like it, just download and flash another one.
Thanks heaps for that!
I actually just tried the UK unbranded rom that was for the i9300 on my i9300T and suprisingly everything seems to work ok so far (phone calls, txting, 3g etc)
Thankyou to everyone!
Thank you for your responses to my post regarding rooting my s3. They were very helpful. i succesfully rooted via chainfire cf auto root for the I9300 model without problem. Just one last question, I have been searching around a bit and some people are saying that flashing the jellybean firmware via odin, is not a perfect copy.. i mean some say they have been experiencing very minor problems here and there. So, if i update to the uk firmware on jelly bean via odin or mobile odin, and i experience some problems, can i still get the official ota update or jellybean 4.1 via kies when it is released? Thanks again for your help. Im pretty new to this android stuff
My stats: Fairly comfortable with computer and other forms of tech, but have only recently began diving into the Android system. I have limited development/programming experience, however, I'm not a novice or noob to it but definitely not advanced. Importantly for those willing to help I understand most terminology and can follow instructions. Thanks in advance.
Phone Stats: AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note SGH-i717
Android Version: 2.3.6 (Gingerbread)
Baseband Version: i717UCLF6
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.11
Build number: GINGERBREAD.UCLA1
Root Access: Yes
Stock Rom: Unsure, bought online.
Carrier/Service Provider: Straight Talk (U.S.) Phone was previously used on the AT&T network exclusively, and done so with an AT&T provided SIM card. After I purchased it, I ordered a new SIM card from Straight Talk (U.S.) and reprogrammed the APN settings under their instruction in order for my phone service to work correctly, and have had no problems with that.
I can't stand being on Gingerbread any longer. I guess, since my phone is an AT&T phone but I'm using it through Straight Talk I can't get any of the OTA updates. I've tried downloading the OTA's several times, both, prior to and post Root access without success in either case.
So here are my questions:
1. Am I doing something incorrectly which might be keeping me from getting OTA updates? Please remember, I've tried downloading the OTA's several times both with and without Root Access and the conclusion is the same each time: "No Updates Available At This Time. Your Phone Appears To Be Up To Date. Try Again In 24hrs."
2. Is my only option at this point to manually update to a newer firmware? If so, should I update to a newer STOCK version or a custom ROM version?
3. If a manual update is the option, after reading my above outline of my own experience with the Android system, what would be way to go? Simple, not overly complex yet doesn't assume the user is either a complete moron or can write code in his sleep. I've checked into a couple of options. Rom Manager seems like it would be a nice route to go, but in the Recovery Setup portion I basically get told I can't use that application because my specific device isn't supported.
I checked out GooManager and, unless it's just me, it seems like it's an app that likes to do all the work without telling you what it's doing exactly, but when it does ask me or tell me information, I'm not always sure how to answer or react to it's warnings.
Plus, I've noticed that sometimes when downloading a ROM, sometimes I have to "flash" the gapps myself and other times I don't.
4. Is it easier to download everything separately and apply them one by one, for example the ROM then gapps then Kernal...etc? Or look for something that has it all in one package?
I have a laptop in which I can download/transfer programs and apps between it and my Note so download space and internet access isn't a problem.
Also, it most likely isn't information that is going to help in anyway, but I live in Oklahoma, United States of America.
Thanks for all the feedback...UnluckyOnion
I'm not answering these in any specific order,
As I kinda just sped read thru most of it...
Since you're rooted, or know how to, goomanager is superior to Rom manager.
It supports this device and has a current version of twrp to install, instead of an outdated cwm.
Just use it to install recovery, then boot your device into recovery and use that. Not the app. You'll be provided with much more information and this is the preferred way of flashing.
Official Updates are always "manual" either with a less than user friendly program called kies, or with a less annoying way (which you may be familiar with seeing as you've rooted) ODIN. Both pc programs used with the phone in download mode connected with usb cable.
Gapps are only needed to flash separately with an aosp based Rom as it's against Google's T.o.S. to include them in am entirely aftermarket compiled firmware, however if it's a Modified version of a stock based Rom (in this case TouchWiz) they can be, and thusly are, included within.
Official or custom is up to you really.
If official..just grab the .tar and flash it with Odin.
If custom, obtain a custom recovery either the way i mentioned above or downloading a .tar of twrp and use Odin to flash that.
Once you have a custom recovery, you'll simply be able to flash a Rom from there.
Roms include a kernel, if you want to use a different one than what is included, that would be flashed after the Rom.
After flashing you'll have to input your carriers apn settings in again.
studacris said:
I'm not answering these in any specific order,
As I kinda just sped read thru most of it...
Since you're rooted, or know how to, goomanager is superior to Rom manager.
It supports this device and has a current version of twrp to install, instead of an outdated cwm.
Just use it to install recovery, then boot your device into recovery and use that. Not the app. You'll be provided with much more information and this is the preferred way of flashing.
Official Updates are always "manual" either with a less than user friendly program called kies, or with a less annoying way (which you may be familiar with seeing as you've rooted) ODIN. Both pc programs used with the phone in download mode connected with usb cable.
Gapps are only needed to flash separately with an aosp based Rom as it's against Google's T.o.S. to include them in am entirely aftermarket compiled firmware, however if it's a Modified version of a stock based Rom (in this case TouchWiz) they can be, and thusly are, included within.
Official or custom is up to you really.
If official..just grab the .tar and flash it with Odin.
If custom, obtain a custom recovery either the way i mentioned above or downloading a .tar of twrp and use Odin to flash that.
Once you have a custom recovery, you'll simply be able to flash a Rom from there.
Roms include a kernel, if you want to use a different one than what is included, that would be flashed after the Rom.
After flashing you'll have to input your carriers apn settings in again.
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Thanks for all the information and help...more importantly, thanks for taking the time. I have ODIN on my laptop and have always used it when needed but I saw a highly rated and positively commented Mobile version of ODIN in the Play Store that claims you can do everything from the convenience of your phone which sounds appealing, however it's kinda pricey, especially if it doesn't work. Would you recommend the mobile version or PC version? Also, I have been doing a lot of ROM and Root research as of late, and wondered something...Why so many different Galaxy Note's? It seems as though I have the least popular version with the most popular being from the Galaxy Note "N" series, specifically the N7000. If I download and use an application that says it's meant for the Galaxy Note N7000 and I use it on my Galaxy Note SGH-i717, what will happen? Nothing, something, brick, work perfectly, etc...?
The N series is not carrier branded and sold internationally, so naturally it's more popular compared to a north American variant.
DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING FOR THE N7000
IT WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
The international version has a different cpu, gpu and antenna, for north American LTE bands to work those key components needed to be different.
So I say again just to stress:
DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING FOR THE N7000
IT WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
As for Odin, you're either going to flashing a stock firmware, or if you choose a custom Rom, you'll only need Odin once to flash TWRP. Then all the rest will be done in recovery on the phone itself. No need for it after you've either manually updated to the latest stock rom, or flashed a recovery for use of custom roms
So... imo mobile Odin, though being nifty, is a bit pricey for how little you'll need it, whereas it's free on pc.
I don't think mobile Odin is even available for the i717. It's not listed in supported devices.
I tried installing mobile odin and it's not supported
Thanks for the reply. And an even bigger Thanks for downloading the app and checking. I admire sacrificing your own work just to help me out. So what about yourself? Would you suggest, advise or heed caution to anymore of my questions?
By the way, what are you two running?
As long as you read the op of threads and all other important posts that follow BEFORE ever touching your phone, I'd say try a custom Rom...if you decide you don't like any of them, you can Odin flash the stock jellybean firmware at any point.
I myself am running unofficial aokp compiled and posted by a fellow team member BlownFuze.
Oh yeah, how's it running? Nice and stable or crawling with bugs? Any key selling points?
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I'm on the stock 4.1.2 release and rooted.
Everything works, no bugs, but battery sucks. Even after removing and freezing useless processes a stock rom will never be as light and battery friendly as a custom rom.
I just upgraded to the same version. Planned on rooting over weekend. Any success since your last post? Do you nave preferred Root method?
Thanks
Unlucky Orion
Use Odin to flash twrp
Newest version of twrp "should" Sr that you're not rooted and ask if you would like to do so within recovery before booting back into the os.
If not, there's links to an su.zip to flash in twrp for root.
studacris said:
Use Odin to flash twrp
Newest version of twrp "should" Sr that you're not rooted and ask if you would like to do so within recovery before booting back into the os.
If not, there's links to an su.zip to flash in twrp for root.
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Hey man, thanks, it worked like a charm. I appreciate the help from both you.