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Does anyone have news on when we are getting this update?
Now that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is going on sale officially in NYC on June 8 WITH 3.1, I hope it is soon!
I just emailed the Samsung dev email from the Google I/O Device page. Hopefully I receive a meaningful response.
cisox said:
I just emailed the Samsung dev email from the Google I/O Device page. Hopefully I receive a meaningful response.
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I already did that. No response after 3 days...
Not very nice support for devs...
10.1 I/o Edition
Guys ...I cant install adobe flash on my tablet and some of the apps from market are not visible and or wont install.. any ideas ?
I guess nobody got any luck in response. I say all that receive there Limited Edition 10.1 email Samsung until they put a press release or reply to someone. This is so unprofessional on there behalf.
I did and will everyday til i get something,,,,logic would dictate there is not going ot be an update for 3.1 since all the tabs coming out have it so hopefully they do something or it will be avail to load once the tabs come out
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I guess nobody got any luck in response. I say all that receive there Limited Edition 10.1 email Samsung until they put a press release or reply to someone. This is so unprofessional on there behalf.
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Guys ...I cant install adobe flash on my tablet and some of the apps from market are not visible and or wont install.. any ideas ?
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Not compatible with tablets.
I have the galaxy tab 10.1V and had no issue with my flash installation, so not sure why you say it isnt compatible with tablets
I got an e-mail from Samsung stating they have no idea when will the google IO limited edition tab will get an OTA update. Will post the e-mail here shortyl.
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Not compatible with tablets.
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Flasg IS compatible with tablets
I think happilyaccosted was more referring to why some apps don't show up in the market on a tablet when he said "not compatible with tablets" and not that Flash wasn't compatible.
Dear FGARCIA25,
Thank you for your inquiry. We are unable to speculate when/if a software revision with this feature might be available due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion.
Should this be available, it will be posted in our website or you will be informed by your service provider.
Please feel free to check with us periodically for updates
Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
Marge
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If there is no OTA on Wednesday when the retail model is released, I assume it won't be long before someone who got one in NYC posts a system dump.
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If there is no OTA on Wednesday when the retail model is released, I assume it won't be long before someone who got one in NYC posts a system dump.
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Which I agree.. Just don't understand as to why these where handed out to developers when its design to be tested for 3.1.... Especially when there is no option for United States OTA.
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Which I agree.. Just don't understand as to why these where handed out to developers when its design to be tested for 3.1.... Especially when there is no option for United States OTA.
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I think part of the reason it was handed out (besides publicity for Samsung) was to get some developers a real 3.X device to do any development on, and write some app, any app. Google needs Honeycomb apps up on the market, bad. At that point not having 3.1 yet isn't that big a deal. The Honeycomb emulator is a pile of suck and Google admitted as much at the conference, so this is a way to get people making stuff.
And if they can't directly OTA these things up to 3.1 from the gimped version of 3.0 that's on them right now, that doesn't seem like that big a deal. Google/Samsung can always email people instructions to go flash a zip; if you got on a plane to SF to go to an Android developer conference then an "adb push" and reboot should be a piece of cake for you
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I think part of the reason it was handed out (besides publicity for Samsung) was to get some developers a real 3.X device to do any development on, and write some app, any app. Google needs Honeycomb apps up on the market, bad. At that point not having 3.1 yet isn't that big a deal. The Honeycomb emulator is a pile of suck and Google admitted as much at the conference, so this is a way to get people making stuff.
And if they can't directly OTA these things up to 3.1 from the gimped version of 3.0 that's on them right now, that doesn't seem like that big a deal. Google/Samsung can always email people instructions to go flash a zip; if you got on a plane to SF to go to an Android developer conference then an "adb push" and reboot should be a piece of cake for you
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Well it didnt work since they all sold them on ebay
fgarcia25 said:
Dear FGARCIA25,
Thank you for your inquiry. We are unable to speculate when/if a software revision with this feature might be available due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion.
Should this be available, it will be posted in our website or you will be informed by your service provider.
Please feel free to check with us periodically for updates
Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.
Sincerely,
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Can you share the email address to contact as well as the web page? Thanks
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Can you share the email address to contact as well as the web page? Thanks
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Sure can. Here it is.
Samsung Customer Support Center <[email protected]>
That's what they used to reply to me back. It does not state do not reply. Hope that works.
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Can you share the email address to contact as well as the web page? Thanks
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I've used this one and this still have no news:
http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/google/io.device.do?platformId=1
Has anyone been using their Droid DNA with an Exchange 2010 email server using ActiveSync? If so, are you able to download email attachments at a reasonable speed?
I'm running fully stock Android 4.1.1 on my Droid DNA . Compared side-by-side with my old Thunderbolt, using the same internet connection and the same exchange server settings, the DNA downloads email attachments at approximately 1/20th the speed. (I'd estimate that the attachment download rate is no greater than 50 Kbps, while I'm getting 25 Mbps on a speedtest.net download test.) This behavior is the same whether the phone is on WiFi or 4G LTE. I have tried deleting and re-creating the account with no success, and the speed is not improved (even temporarily) by a device reboot.
This is a painfully annoying issue. My work's IT department basically told me it's not their fault, they didn't change anything.
Any ideas as to why this is happening or whether this is a known issue would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Has anyone been using their Droid DNA with an Exchange 2010 email server using ActiveSync? If so, are you able to download email attachments at a reasonable speed?
I'm running fully stock Android 4.1.1 on my Droid DNA . Compared side-by-side with my old Thunderbolt, using the same internet connection and the same exchange server settings, the DNA downloads email attachments at approximately 1/20th the speed. (I'd estimate that the attachment download rate is no greater than 50 Kbps, while I'm getting 25 Mbps on a speedtest.net download test.) This behavior is the same whether the phone is on WiFi or 4G LTE. I have tried deleting and re-creating the account with no success, and the speed is not improved (even temporarily) by a device reboot.
This is a painfully annoying issue. My work's IT department basically told me it's not their fault, they didn't change anything.
Any ideas as to why this is happening or whether this is a known issue would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Noticed slow downloads as well. I just figured it was our intenet connection to the exchange server though. Sounds like it could be something else.
Same problem here. Happens on both 4G and WiFi.
I sent an email to HTC requesting support on this issue, and they said they were not aware of the problem. They also said it would be helpful if others having this problem reported it to them as well.
For anyone else experiencing this problem, please take a second to submit your issue to HTC using their simple webform at htc[dot]com/us/support/email-support.
Hopefully we can get this fixed. Thanks.
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I sent an email to HTC requesting support on this issue, and they said they were not aware of the problem. They also said it would be helpful if others having this problem reported it to them as well.
For anyone else experiencing this problem, please take a second to submit your issue to HTC using their simple webform at htc[dot]com/us/support/email-support.
Hopefully we can get this fixed. Thanks.
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I have the same issue on my HTC One X Plus
jrt8587 said:
I sent an email to HTC requesting support on this issue, and they said they were not aware of the problem. They also said it would be helpful if others having this problem reported it to them as well.
For anyone else experiencing this problem, please take a second to submit your issue to HTC using their simple webform at htc[dot]com/us/support/email-support.
Hopefully we can get this fixed. Thanks.
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I also sent an email to HTC. Would really like to get this one fixed.
Hi,
I have raised a case with HTC. My case number is 12GBCW51ENA000043. I sent HTC a link to these forums to show that this issue isnt an isolated issue but they wont look at external websites.
Please can you give me your case numbers numbers so that we can show that there is an issue here on multiple devices?
Thanks,
Ben.
BenBrazil said:
Hi,
I have raised a case with HTC. My case number is 12GBCW51ENA000043. I sent HTC a link to these forums to show that this issue isnt an isolated issue but they wont look at external websites.
Please can you give me your case numbers numbers so that we can show that there is an issue here on multiple devices?
Thanks,
Ben.
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Here's my case number - 12USCW51ENA000196.
They suggested I delete and recreate my exchange account and clear cache. Did both with no improvement.
jimm2 said:
Here's my case number - 12USCW51ENA000196.
They suggested I delete and recreate my exchange account and clear cache. Did both with no improvement.
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Thanks,
I've given them the case number.
So I have received another response from HTC. They have a solution. And that solution is to install Touchdown. Are you kidding me HTC? Exchange email is an advertised feature on your top-of-the-line device. It needs to work properly. And buying a $20 app that doesn't integrate into the OS (or look nice, for that matter) is hardly a fix.
For what its worth, I do note that attachments download very quickly with Touchdown. Let me know if any of you find a real solution.
Also, BenBrazil: my case number is 12USCW50ENA002130
HTC also suggested that I use Touchdown. They also told me it's an exchange server problem and I should contact my IT admin to see if they can help, lol. Sure, everyone experiencing this issue all of a sudden has exchange server problems after they updgrade to the DNA.
I couldn't even get them to acknowledge they are trying to duplicate the problem. Their support people only tried to blame the problem on everything else but the device.
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So I have received another response from HTC. They have a solution. And that solution is to install Touchdown. Are you kidding me HTC? Exchange email is an advertised feature on your top-of-the-line device. It needs to work properly. And buying a $20 app that doesn't integrate into the OS (or look nice, for that matter) is hardly a fix.
For what its worth, I do note that attachments download very quickly with Touchdown. Let me know if any of you find a real solution.
Also, BenBrazil: my case number is 12USCW50ENA002130
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OK,
So my case has been escalated. They have asked me to create a test account in my environment for them to test with which I have done. I would have thought that they would have their own test lab rather then rely on their customers.
I have an HTC Desire HD which doesnt have the slow attachment speed issue so I am hoping that they will acknowledge that the issue is not with Exchange but on the device.
Is the Mail application one of HTC's applications or is it part of Android? I wonder if it is an Android 4.1.1 issue?
I've also tested with Touchdown HD and attachment download speed is fine.
Ben
BenBrazil said:
OK,
Is the Mail application one of HTC's applications or is it part of Android? I wonder if it is an Android 4.1.1 issue?
Ben
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The mail app has been customized by HTC for Sense so it's not stock Android.
They also wanted to escalate my ticket but when they submitted the list of requirements I had to meet, it seemed to me they were just hoping I would go away if they made me jump through enough hoops. My opinion is they are not actively trying to address the problem. They would not even acknowledge that other users had reported the same issue.
Asking customers to do their own testing of HTC apps to duplicate problems just seems wrong. With that approach, not too hard to see why they are failing in the marketplace.
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BenBrazil said:
OK,
I have an HTC Desire HD which doesnt have the slow attachment speed issue so I am hoping that they will acknowledge that the issue is not with Exchange but on the device.
Ben
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I also mentioned I don't have this speed issue on my HTC Incredible 2 using the same exchange server. Their response was that since both phones run different firmware, it's meaningless to compare download performance between them. Huh? I've now corresponded with several of their support personnel and they don't seem to have a clue. One guy actually said I should ask my IT admin to play around with exchange server settings to see if it would help my problem. I told him we have 50,000 email users globally so you can probably understand why that's not going to happen.
Been a long time HTC customer but this experience with their support group is leaving a lingering bad taste.
Just got an update on this issue from HTC. They say they have entered an 'information gathering mode' as multiple users have reported the problem, and that once they diagnose the problem they will give us a way to fix it or a software update. The email gives no timeframe for this, other than to say the development process can be lengthy.
If they have to push a firmware update to fix this, I doubt we'll get anything in the short-term. It'll have to go through VZW before it gets to us.
Sorry guys, I gave up on their support group. Mostly corporate doublespeak is all I could get. "We're sorry about your problem, there are many 3rd party email apps in the Play Store that might meet your needs".
I certainly don't expect a quick solution but how much information gathering do they need to do? Just all seems like lip service.
Dna / exchange active sync
Having the same god awful attachment speed download. I have called HTC twice hoping I would get in contact with someone who actually understands the severity of this problem. Can't deploy this phone in our environment with this bug. I was told to purchase a 3rd party app...
The guy I spoke with also said this was the first time he has heard of this and asked me to test with different accounts and phones. I have already tested it and found this problem only happens on Exchange 2010. Exchange 2008 and 2003 work perfect.
Amazing how this product went to production with this being over looked!
Based on the type of response everyone has been getting from HTC support, it sure doesn't instill much confidence that a fix will be forthcoming in the foreseeable future. I'm beginning to think that HTC support in the US is nothing more than a few people handling support calls and emails with no actual support work being done here.
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Based on the type of response everyone has been getting from HTC support, it sure doesn't instill much confidence that a fix will be forthcoming in the foreseeable future. I'm beginning to think that HTC support in the US is nothing more than a few people handling support calls and emails with no actual support work being done here.
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Hi,
I'm in the UK and my case is still open with support.
They asked me to create an Exchange 2010 account for them to test with. I can see that they have connected to the account using an One X and not a One X Plus which is where I am having the problem. I dont know if this problem exists on the One X. The emails that they have sent to test with dont contain attachments so I am wondering if they have missed the point.
Anyway, like the rest of you, I am not optimistic unless a large scale customer raises this issue.
I'll update if I get anywhere.
Ben
BenBrazil said:
Hi,
I'm in the UK and my case is still open with support.
They asked me to create an Exchange 2010 account for them to test with. I can see that they have connected to the account using an One X and not a One X Plus which is where I am having the problem. I dont know if this problem exists on the One X. The emails that they have sent to test with dont contain attachments so I am wondering if they have missed the point.
Anyway, like the rest of you, I am not optimistic unless a large scale customer raises this issue.
I'll update if I get anywhere.
Ben
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Not getting very far with HTC support. They have said that they cant reproduce the problem, but I dont believe that they have actually tested downloading attachments as they havent sent an emai with attachments on the test mail account which I set up for them.
Does anyone have a case number where they have acknowledged that there is an issue?
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Not getting very far with HTC support. They have said that they cant reproduce the problem, but I dont believe that they have actually tested downloading attachments as they havent sent an emai with attachments on the test mail account which I set up for them.
Does anyone have a case number where they have acknowledged that there is an issue?
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Every email I received from HTC support tried to blame the problem on exchange servers or connections. They wouldn't even acknowledge if or when they planned to do any testing to see if they could duplicate the issue.
I havent even gotten the phone yet, it's in the mail. Thankfully i came in here to read and now i know to block ota if i want any hope of getting root.
But it leaves me wondering why do they hate rooting so much? Wireless tether is legal on Verizon and most anything else i can think of would hurt google and app devs before verizon...
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it's not just verizon. the sprint s4 has the same going on. at least according to someone i know that has one. it supposedly has something to do with the knox crap and possibly the lojack stuff they're trying to add to the phones.
i haven't bothered to confirm any of this. just got it from a bit of skimming. work's picking up a bit so i haven't been able to read as much.
It is all about security. Rooted phones do not work well with secure environments. I mean if you really think about it. With the right set up any app can be given root permissions without the user even knowing.
Wayne Tech Nexus
It also voids warranty. If I were selling a product and the consumer rendered the device useless through mods and what have you, I wouldnt want to warranty it either. One of many reasons.
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I can totally understand it---there could be a lot of headaches for the carrier. That said, I wish Verizon would not block it so much as give the user a Verizon-approved way to root with copious warnings about all the terrible things that can happen. It seems to me that would be sufficient.
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I can totally understand it---there could be a lot of headaches for the carrier. That said, I wish Verizon would not block it so much as give the user a Verizon-approved way to root with copious warnings about all the terrible things that can happen. It seems to me that would be sufficient.
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Yeah but that brings its own worries. They did give at least an option. The Dev Edition.
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Yeah but that brings its own worries. They did give at least an option. The Dev Edition.
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Very true, and it's pretty clear from the name that you're getting something different.
It also presents a problem with technical support. A standardized system is far easier to troubleshoot than one wroth dozens of unknown variables.
Also, the OP is only partially correct regarding wireless tether. While Verizon cannot block users from using third party tether apps, they also have the FCC's explicit blessing to require a separate tethering fee for unlimited plan holders
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HTC lets you unlock the bootloader via a code on their website specific for the individual phone's serial number. One clicks to waive the warranty to get the unlock code, and anyone can boot the phone into bootloader mode to see "unlocked" or "tampered" displayed. That means no warranty.
Verizon was OK with it for HTC phones.
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Its all about the money they lose so much money as a company.. even though they make billions monthly they still are all about making the consumers pay more
For the s4 its all about security. Samsung is trying to get into the corporate phone market. They released this new locked down bootloader to make companies feel all warm and fuzy. My company allows me to access my work email on my phone but to do so I have to have the phone encrypted with no root.
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help...
Verizon Blocks Users from Root
Yeah, I'm having that issue myself. I have rooted my previous devices but just purchased a Motorola Turbo from VZW which is LOADED with bloatware that won't go away. So, I thought I'd go the "decent" route and see if they may be nice in return and help me unlock my phone. Holy cow, you'd think I was trying to hack Fort Knox or the Fed! The Mod at the Verizon Community Website summarily deleted my question regarding this. Well, admittedly, I probably was stupid for doing that but, again, I thought I would be "nice" about it but they decided to get nasty and tried scaring me by tell me I was "in violation of FCC regulations and my terms of service" if I even attempted to root my device and he was going to "open an investigation into my "hacking" activities." Wow, talk about a Mod with delusions of god-hood! Okay, illegal to root MY phone, which I PAID for. So, I called VZW CS (I hate talking) and explained my issue and got a complete dolt (as expected) who didn't have a clue even what the Verizon Community Website was...fact is, my only desire is to remove the damn bloat-ware, ads, etc. and increase the battery life. This phone has such potential and they lock it down to such extremes, it's really disappointing. Finally, I got fed up and asked for her supervisor, who was not much better. Supposedly, she is escalating this to Tier 3 Support. Permission to have root access to MY own phone. I was a sys admin for 25+ years and never had to ask permission for root access for my computers...
Suggestions?
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Suggestions?
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Buy a Nexus 6p or 5x.
A little late for that.
I thought the new Droid Turbo just got root and bootloader unlock... I think it was RootJunky or DroidModderX who just put up a video on that...
That said, like smitchell said, it's Samsung trying to capture the corporate market from Blackberry, and Verizon wanting money from users, combining to screw over people like us who want to flash custom software.
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A little late for that.
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No. They're still being sold.
mike.s said:
No. They're still being sold.
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You misunderstand, Friend. I meant that I had purchased my Motorola Turbo too recently, so the prospect for purchasing another would be impossible at this time.
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XxD34THxX said:
I thought the new Droid Turbo just got root and bootloader unlock... I think it was RootJunky or DroidModderX who just put up a video on that...
That said, like smitchell said, it's Samsung trying to capture the corporate market from Blackberry, and Verizon wanting money from users, combining to screw over people like us who want to flash custom software.
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From what I've read, Verizon has made it impossible to do, unless you want to pay $20 for mofo, and that's no guarantee. Where is this video?
Thanks!
Verizon is evil. I have a Galaxy Note Pro from them that I can't even put linux on due to the locked bootloader and kernel without chroot. It's a sad state of affairs. The government should have laws for giving consumers rights to use their devices as they wish
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You misunderstand, Friend. I meant that I had purchased my Motorola Turbo too recently, so the prospect for purchasing another would be impossible at this time.
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From what I've read, Verizon has made it impossible to do, unless you want to pay $20 for mofo, and that's no guarantee. Where is this video?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnfCtvYawVc
http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/galaxys4.pdf
I woke up this morning and on my phone was a request to update from Verizon, it was an official update.
I haven't seen anything anywhere and I can't believe that I am one of the first on XDA to get this;
I go first!
Lol :laugh:
Lol, spam is spam!
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No offense, but you are a little late to the party. The update has been out for a week now.
See these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731099 - Thread created on first rollouts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658480 - Discussion thread
The only nice thing is that VZW finally released info on the update.
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No offense, but you are a little late to the party. The update has been out for a week now.
See these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731099 - Thread created on first rollouts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658480 - Discussion thread
The only nice thing is that VZW finally released info on the update.
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I didn't think I was the first but I haven't been following lately so I didn't see anything. How do you get rid of that constant nag?
What is so exciting about an update that essentially kills write permissions to the SD card and adds more bloat? Not being sarcastic. Just do not see the benefit. S4 seems fine, pre update.
JMO
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What is so exciting about an update that essentially kills write permissions to the SD card and adds more bloat? Not being sarcastic. Just do not see the benefit. S4 seems fine, pre update.
JMO
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Didn't add more bloat. Please explain in detail what bloat you are talking about. Most bloat can be turned off. As a matter of fact, one of the best parts of the update is the ability to disable bloat from the app drawer. Also, 4.4 added the framework for Tap to Pay. There are plenty of reasons to update. Kit Kat runs better for me and has features I find very useful.
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Didn't add more bloat. Please explain in detail what bloat you are talking about. Most bloat can be turned off. As a matter of fact, one of the best parts of the update is the ability to disable bloat from the app drawer. Also, 4.4 added the framework for Tap to Pay. There are plenty of reasons to update. Kit Kat runs better for me and has features I find very useful.
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I don't believe you can disable KNOX(crap) without root. There are probably a few other verizon apps that cannot be disabled without root.
Knox? I haven't had a problem with it... It does nothing on my phone. Can you please explain what your problem is with Knox?
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You CAN disable knox....The only thing I wish I could disable that u can't is the stupid security update notifications
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It's not that it's a bad update by any means, 4.4 code has a lot of efficiencies over 4.3, but with as long as the wait was i guess people over hyped it and expected more new end-user features.
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My phone didn't show the update till a few hours ago. At first I was semi excited, then I remembered I still plan on rooting the crap out of the thing..... Verizon and their slow nonsense don't sit well with me sometimes.
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My phone didn't show the update till a few hours ago. At first I was semi excited, then I remembered I still plan on rooting the crap out of the thing..... Verizon and their slow nonsense don't sit well with me sometimes.
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If you want the update and be rooted, go here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
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What is so exciting about an update that essentially kills write permissions to the SD card and adds more bloat? Not being sarcastic. Just do not see the benefit. S4 seems fine, pre update.
JMO
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Honestly, the SD card "issue" is so overblown its not funny. It doesn't kill write permissions... what it does do, is make it so that apps don't have the right to go willy nilly across you card, to folders it shouldn't have permission to (unless you agree that a random app you download should have the ability to muck with other programs folders).
I made the jump on my phone more than a month ago, and my day to day impacts are NILL. Poweramp still plays all my music just fine, and not one program has had a FC or any other issue. In fact, had i not read articles from other people about the sky falling, i would have never known anyway....
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Honestly, the SD card "issue" is so overblown its not funny.
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It's an unexpected, undocumented change. That you don't run applications which get broken doesn't mean that others aren't hurt by it.
Google is the new Microsoft - they think because they're successful they can do no wrong, but in reality they're clueless about a lot of things. Big enough to not care, and it's the users who get hurt.
Adding *nix permissions to a vfat volume is the right thing to do (short of requiring a modern file system on an SD card), but they're doing it wrong by not phasing it in so apps can accommodate the change.
Well, fill me in. What broke? What app needs to write willy nilly to folders it shouldn't be in that is now no longer working?
For all the moaning people give, i seem to have trouble finding REAL problems...
Divine_Madcat said:
Well, fill me in. What broke? What app needs to write willy nilly to folders it shouldn't be in that is now no longer working?
For all the moaning people give, i seem to have trouble finding REAL problems...
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Subsonic is one example. Here's a detailed explanation with another example.
Your Google-fu is weak.
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Subsonic is one example. Here's a detailed explanation with another example.
Your Google-fu is weak.
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At the end of the thread, its reported fixed, and your other article is from 2012 and has nothing to do with any of this.
Keep trying....
As it is.. apps may write to any folder they own, and may read from every folder. Unless the app is badly written, this change should honestly be a non issue.
Divine_Madcat said:
Honestly, the SD card "issue" is so overblown its not funny.
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I agree 100%
Divine_Madcat said:
At the end of the thread, its reported fixed, and your other article is from 2012 and has nothing to do with any of this.
Keep trying....
As it is.. apps may write to any folder they own, and may read from every folder. Unless the app is badly written, this change should honestly be a non issue.
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LOL. It was "fixed" by manually changing things in the application, fortunately the app had a setting where the storage path can be configured by the user, many don't. KitKat broke something which worked before because it introduced new restrictions with no prior warning to developers.
The linked article is about this issue, exactly. You didn't read the comments, did you? Or try searching ? The change has been around for a while (back to Honeycomb), but manufacturers worked around it for most devices. Now Google seems to be enforcing it as a requirement with KitKat (or Samsung decided to not do the work-around anymore, we'll see). Maybe it's not causing you problems, but it is causing problems for people.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/08/0...ty-fix-heading-to-xperia-z-series-this-month/
This is to confirm Sony will be pushing out an update to protect their Z series phones first from this Stagefreight problem that involves hacking our Androids with simply MMS. The issue is for us is that we still haven't had Lollipop to our phones for this long. Will this patch update may even take Verizon to do a hell a lot longer before they could even give us our deserved update? Because this is a serious issue that must be addressed.
I've also attached a screenshot from the analysis app for my Z3v, and we're definitely vulnerable...
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we are ****ed
Watch vzw give us a patch without 5.1...
Old news Vzw is a terrible carrier
Not only stagefright but now certifi-gate, and certifi-gate you need to update the whole OS to fix it, so maybe we will finally get Lollipop, but wouldn't hold your breath.
I feel like a duck sitting on a pond surrounded by hunters, being a sitting duck I don't like.
SO LETS SEE HOW VZW PROTECTS THEIR NETWORK NOW!
Will VZW patch or will VZW not?
The quick fix solutions I have found so far in credits to Android Authority is to either download Textra for your messaging app, or disable auto downloading of MMS attachments on your messaging app.
To do that on our phones, go to stock Messaging app, Settings, then scroll down to uncheck Auto MMS Retrieval.
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The quick fix solutions I have found so far in credits to Android Authority is to either download Textra for your messaging app, or disable auto downloading of MMS attachments on your messaging app.
To do that on our phones, go to stock Messaging app, Settings, then scroll down to uncheck Auto MMS Retrieval.
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Good tip, did that yesterday to mine and my wife's phone after reading the exploit news.
Be careful, any MMS can have the exploit attached.
Forgot to add, I disabled "Hangouts" too, I think it is affected too.
I was on my phone and went to xda news and saw the pushbullet article. I click on comments and get a redirection with a mess of ads and a android message talking about being infected....wth xda!!!
1linuxfreak said:
Not only stagefright but now certifi-gate, and certifi-gate you need to update the whole OS to fix it, so maybe we will finally get Lollipop, but wouldn't hold your breath.
I feel like a duck sitting on a pond surrounded by hunters, being a sitting duck I don't like.
SO LETS SEE HOW VZW PROTECTS THEIR NETWORK NOW!
Will VZW patch or will VZW not?
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Where are you reading that you need to update the whole OS to patch Certifi-gate? Read this article, particularly the quote from the google spokesperson. http://www.zdnet.com/article/androcertifi-gate-remote-access-security-hole-malware-seen-in-the-wild/
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Where are you reading that you need to update the whole OS to patch Certifi-gate? Read this article, particularly the quote from the google spokesperson. http://www.zdnet.com/article/androcertifi-gate-remote-access-security-hole-malware-seen-in-the-wild/
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Took you long enough to try and disprove me.
Do some reading you will find it. It is a problem with a layer in the OS, I had the information before the Black Hat conference.
1linuxfreak said:
Took you long enough to try and disprove me.
Do some reading you will find it. It is a problem with a layer in the OS, I had the information before the Black Hat conference.
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I did read, couldn't find anything to support what you are saying but did find what I linked. If you have something else feel free to share with the rest of us. Kind of a moot point to me really as I am on my Nexus 6, which apparently isn't vulnerable.
That's okay I'm fine with being right don't have to prove it to you.
1linuxfreak said:
That's okay I'm fine with being right don't have to prove it to you.
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you have something against sharing with the community?
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you have something against sharing with the community?
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Your name is "community"?
Pleasure to meet you Community.
If you have Nexus 6 and are not at risk, are you just here to gloat and point fingers at us and laugh? Not very friendly.
1linuxfreak said:
Your name is "community"?
Pleasure to meet you Community.
If you have Nexus 6 and are not at risk, are you just here to gloat and point fingers at us and laugh? Not very friendly.
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Who's pointing fingers and laughing? There is a community of users here that could benefit from the information you have if you'd share it. I only asked where you got your information from as the information I had seemed to imply something different.
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Who's pointing fingers and laughing? There is a community of users here that could benefit from the information you have if you'd share it. I only asked where you got your information from as the information I had seemed to imply something different.
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If you know as much as you imply you would already know what I know and there would be no need for further discussion.
So as far as you are concerned the scare is over. Patches are out everything is fine. At least with your Nexus 6.
I will not post up something that is available on the inter web and you can find yourself. LAZY! Wait you may not get it right so here --
"Android-based mobile devices are under threat from yet another major security vulnerability and this time a simple download patch won’t fix it. Making smartphones and tablets safe against the new 'bug', dubbed Certifi-gate, will reportedly require a rewrite of the underlying software, leaving most mobile devices vulnerable until a new operating system version is released." -- there copy and paste this into your browsers search window or highlight and right click and do "Search Google" for this. Wait here -- https://www.google.com/search?q=certifi-gate+requires+a+OS+rewite&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=certifi-gate+requires+a+OS+rewrite
since you can't do it yourself.
Please go away now troll.
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If you know as much as you imply you would already know what I know and there would be no need for further discussion.
So as far as you are concerned the scare is over. Patches are out everything is fine. At least with your Nexus 6.
I will not post up something that is available on the inter web and you can find yourself. LAZY! Wait you may not get it right so here --
"Android-based mobile devices are under threat from yet another major security vulnerability and this time a simple download patch won’t fix it. Making smartphones and tablets safe against the new 'bug', dubbed Certifi-gate, will reportedly require a rewrite of the underlying software, leaving most mobile devices vulnerable until a new operating system version is released." -- there copy and paste this into your browsers search window or highlight and right click and do "Search Google" for this. Wait here -- https://www.google.com/search?q=certifi-gate+requires+a+OS+rewite&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=certifi-gate+requires+a+OS+rewrite
since you can't do it yourself.
Please go away now troll.
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wow, I really feel that was completely uncalled for.
BladeRunner said:
wow, I really feel that was completely uncalled for.
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Really bro and what you did to me was kosher? Alrighty then!
Should have left it alone, I all but begged you to drop it.
So now I am wrong for sharing, really?
1linuxfreak said:
Really bro and what you did to me was kosher? Alrighty then!
Should have left it alone, I all but begged you to drop it.
So now I am wrong for sharing, really?
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WHT, exactly, did I "do to you"? Wrong for sharing? Absolutely not. It's what I wanted from the beginning. Wrong for personally attacking by calling me lazy and a troll. Absolutely, I am neither, thank you very much.
This thread was on its way down the list but I just had to wake it up......