Hi, I think is good that we have LG's UI.
Because I have a Galaxy Nexus with a CM10 and there is nothing else. All the ROMs look exactly the same. With LG we will get mix of LG and CM or Aosp and that will look better.
What you guys think?
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I agree. I'm not to fond of all the Roms and how they are all the same. They all look the same and to me that's boring. I really like the ui.
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Eventually, maybe even sense.
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I would tend to agree with you. Having different UIs are a nice change of pace while other roms that mimic AOSP are visually boring after a while. However, I think the UI is taking up too much resources that causes the significant battery drain that many reviewers seem to complain about. Personally, once CM10 comes to the Optimus G, I will be using that instead.
With external SD u can have mutiple roms with different flavours
Biggest advantage that I feel which is pushing me for upgrade to this one , obiviously apart from monstorous horsepower underneath is the external SD card. I kinda liked having two roms simultaneously installed in my galaxy S2, always kept one TW based and other CM based.
With One X ,Lost this flexiblity. I hope we get good Devs derived to buy this powerhouse and can provide alot on rom options , both with LG UI and CM/AOKP. This is one of the reason I'm looking for this one.
Cheers to all who are already enjoying this !
noob question here, almost too embarrassed to ask, but how do you add/remove screens? Haven't figured it out yet :\
Yeah.. that's definitely not gonna happen.
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Eventually, maybe even sense.
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It just all depends on what u want. For me I'm a aosp user and hate every other overlay so for me it doesn't bother me if ROMs look the same. If it bothers someone then learn to theme or buy a device that u like the manufacturers skin on but no skin will ever perform as well as aosp.
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Yeah.. that's definitely not gonna happen.
It just all depends on what u want. For me I'm a aosp user and hate every other overlay so for me it doesn't bother me if ROMs look the same. If it bothers someone then learn to theme or buy a device that u like the manufacturers skin on but no skin will ever perform as well as aosp.
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That's not always true. While aosp uses less resources, since it is geared to work on everything, it may not be as optimized as stock is. Apparently, the nexus 4 performs worse than the optimus g, which could mean that lg did a good job of optimizing it for the device in a way that aosp did not.
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thats not always true. While aosp uses less resources, since it is geared to work on everything, it may not be as optimized as stock is. Apparently, the nexus 4 performs worse than the optimus g, which could mean that lg did a good job of optimizing it for the device in a way that aosp did not.
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Good argument but these manufacturers just take aosp and add **** on top. So your still getting the same aosp as a google phone with **** added on that always makes it slower and there's no way in hell an optimus outperforms the new nexus. Whoever said that (I don't care if it was a 100) is crazy.
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That's not always true. While aosp uses less resources, since it is geared to work on everything, it may not be as optimized as stock is. Apparently, the nexus 4 performs worse than the optimus g, which could mean that lg did a good job of optimizing it for the device in a way that aosp did not.
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I believe it only outperformed it because the benchmarks weren't optimized for 4.2 yet. Who knows what kinda of framework changes Google has done. Also keep in mind that all the Nexus 4 right now have pre-release software. All of them are bound to have bugs.
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Seriously, what if we never officially get JB? Will we just have to rely on the N4 conversion? Will it affect development?
And how angry will you be?
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I will be so mad bro
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Well I'll never be getting another LG device, for one. At least I assume it's LG's fault
But, I'll be running CM when it comes thanks to the devs so it won't be too much of a factor for me. Now if it's a factor for the devs, that's another story... Then I will be severely pissed off
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theres already a few JB roms based on our phone, just not the att variants. im currently waiting for a base JB after the official one drops, but if that doesnt happen, ill just use the canadian one
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Well I'll never be getting another LG device, for one. At least I assume it's LG's fault
But, I'll be running CM when it comes thanks to the devs so it won't be too much of a factor for me. Now if it's a factor for the devs, that's another story... Then I will be severely pissed off
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This. My next device will also not be carrier branded. I'm sick of this s***! :silly:
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At least I assume it's LG's fault
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Nope. This is AT&T, like normal. Since they have a Jellybean build for several of the other variants, I am sure we are just waiting on AT&T to add all their bloatware to it.
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Nope. This is AT&T, like normal. Since they have a Jellybean build for several of the other variants, I am sure we are just waiting on AT&T to add all their bloatware to it.
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Nope a dev on here can add bloatware in a few minutes code it properly in a few day day so I'm sure an entire team of programmers at at&t can do this fast enough. It's marketing on Googles behalf. They have the moderately inferior nexus which has jelly bean 4.2.1 if they update the og to jelly bean what's the point in getting a nexus?
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Nope a dev on here can add bloatware in a few minutes code it properly in a few day day so I'm sure an entire team of programmers at at&t can do this fast enough. It's marketing on Googles behalf. They have the moderately inferior nexus which has jelly bean 4.2.1 if they update the og to jelly bean what's the point in getting a nexus?
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The xperia z is launching with 4.2 soooo that excuse is bogus, we just want 4.1 ha
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Nope a dev on here can add bloatware in a few minutes code it properly in a few day day so I'm sure an entire team of programmers at at&t can do this fast enough. It's marketing on Googles behalf. They have the moderately inferior nexus which has jelly bean 4.2.1 if they update the og to jelly bean what's the point in getting a nexus?
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? Hmmm I don't know, maybe because it's not carrier branded, a clean-slate version of Android, and significantly cheaper to buy off-contract... Seems to me like there's still plenty of incentive to buy the N4 regardless if the OG has JB or not.
Whatever the reason, I really like this phone and am glad I bought it. However, unless things change before my contract is up, I'll avoid LG like the plague when choosing my next device. There is no reason anyone can give to me...to me... not anyone else, that in my mind justifies this piece of hardware not having official JB released for it by now. The work the developers are doing with one hand tied behind their back is awesome, but it shouldn't have to come to this. I'll vote with my dollars next time and go back to Samsung. It's a shame, too.
Like what has been mentioned and discussed ad nauseum since December, this device very well could have shipped with JB if they wanted it to. It most certainly could have been upgraded by now, especially with international versions of JB out. That tells me it is 100% AT&T who is holding this up.
Have a great weekend! Can't wait to see what the devs have cooked up!
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Seriously, what if we never officially get JB? Will we just have to rely on the N4 conversion? Will it affect development?
And how angry will you be?
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So you really feel the need to complain about jellybean in 2 diff threads. This thread is a waste of space. You just created a topic in general and now q&a. Come on bro
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ATT is probably too busy updating the note, note2, s3, one x, and all the other big selling devices. That said, looking at LG open source site there is only one device showing more than one os update, and that was froyo to gingerbread to ice cream sandwich. So jellybean will probably be the end of official updates for this phone.
Hint's the reason to why I swtched from this to the note 2 plus the fact that it's just a sweet ass phone lol so smooth n fast has a better pic to than the LG sound is better everything is lol Lg just sucks on upgrading there stuff that's all it really is Stuiped SOB's lmao
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Hint's the reason to why I swtched from this to the note 2 plus the fact that it's just a sweet ass phone lol so smooth n fast has a better pic to than the LG sound is better everything is lol Lg just sucks on upgrading there stuff that's all it really is Stuiped SOB's lmao
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In this case it's AT&T. If our developers can reverse engineer a hack to convert this to an N4, the mfg could have put JB on this device with the schematics and kernel files in their possession from day one. There are no two ways about it, simple as that. I mean they built both phones at the same time with almost identical specs for crying out loud..
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LG? At&t They know what they can both go do It start's with f and ends with U lmfao
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The xperia z is launching with 4.2 soooo that excuse is bogus, we just want 4.1 ha
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Nope because xperia is Sony nexus 4 and LG og is both by lg
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Nope because xperia is Sony nexus 4 and LG og is both by lg
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But as far as I know, Google is mostly responsible for the N4 software and LG is mostly responsible for the OG.
Google shouldn't have anything to do with us not seeing an update, just like how the N4 users aren't thanking LG for their updates.
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So you really feel the need to complain about jellybean in 2 diff threads. This thread is a waste of space. You just created a topic in general and now q&a. Come on bro
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I didn't make this thread to complain. I was just curious. I had to call AT&T on another matter, asked about JellyBean, and then posted the other, not to complain, just to report.
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I wouldnt hold my breath. Converted when the method first came out and have never look back. I don't know why people are so scare of bricking Im yet to see some one bricking their phone converting and in case you didnt know there is always a chance of bricking even if you are just flashing a simple script all it takes is a simple mistake... why do you think devs always have disclaimers on their roms???? I'm just waiting for 5.0 to drop and you will see a ton of people converting. No one likes old news man same goes for phones why would you want to stay on an outdated OS? makes no sence.
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Hint's the reason to why I swtched from this to the note 2 plus the fact that it's just a sweet ass phone lol so smooth n fast has a better pic to than the LG sound is better everything is lol Lg just sucks on upgrading there stuff that's all it really is Stuiped SOB's lmao
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Each to their own... I have a note 2,think it sucks ass. Too big, amoled screen has poor color reproduction, plastic land...
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I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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Patience is key. You can't force a dev to make a ROM or "develop" for a device. They have lives as well. Everything is pretty close to being here.
Besides if your not likening the "Development" you can always try and make a ROM buddy. Then maybe you can see how its not done overnight.
Oh look this thread again
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On the One X we went months before we had what we have here. Locked boot loader, an unrootable stock release and no source.
How can you call the Free Gee project and the N4 conversion and such slow development? /boggle
I felt the same way at first, and I am probably going to buy the moto X phone or the gsIV, but right now you just gotta find a room you like and settle into it.
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Btw I came to this phone from the sgs3. A huge dev section isn't the only thing to base buying a phone.on. this phone has some sweet hardware. Excellent build quality, and awesome speed. I'm in love.
@Phonephan, I totally hear where you're coming from. I would have hoped for more options by now as well, but I knew what I was getting into when I picked this bad boy up and that there was the chance its potential would go unrealized. However, Rome wasn't built in a day and there have been some unique challenges that some very good developers are about to overcome. Our empire is about to be built! We've already got a solid JB build that doesn't require conversion thanks to SnowLeopardJB. There are a couple solid ICS ROM's as well (shout out to team nocturnal, nygfan, etc.) The real treats are just around the corner and if you check in to the irc chat room you will see just how close. Hang in there bro, you'll be glad you did.
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PhonePhan said:
I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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You need an N4. Oh wait this phone can become one... What are you looking for that the existing custom stock roms or conversion don't provide?
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You need an N4. Oh wait this phone can become one... What are you looking for that the existing custom stock roms or conversion don't provide?
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Nexus 4 with GPS and LTE.
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whats a rom?
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whats a rom?
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half of a rom-com?
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whats a rom?
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Something that wasn't built in a day?
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Ah well I've never built one of those. All mine take a few hours
Stroked from my Dirty Nocturnal'd Optimus G
This thread needs to get closed before things get ugly...
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A rom is a pile of code that makes my sh!t look cooler than the dude's phone next to me... aka, bragging rights!
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There are devs lurking, just be patient and see what happens. Until then go convert your Optimus G to an N4 like others have stated..
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Funny to think that just a few years ago modifying the OS on your phone was not an option. Now folks cry when they don't have 100 variations of the same base rom within a week or two.
Maybe buy a device you like next time. Or wait longer and not buy the device on launch day, that way you can give the dev community time to work thereby ensuring you get an active community to take care of your flashing fix.
Why exactly do you feel the need to tell us that you're leaving? Did you do any development? Write any documentation? Are you afraid we wouldn't notice you were gone?
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Seriously!? We have an ICS phone that developers have transformed into an upgraded nexus 4. Other developers have domesticated foreign JB Roms so well that this phone has every feature enabled today. We may only have a few topics... But major progress happens in them. This is the height of Android options with native pure Google and branded on the most recent versions.
You can install Roms from 3 forums onto this phone... US OG, Intl OG and N4.
The conversion will really pay off in six months when this is the first device with SD card and full android 5 while every other phone has gmail 5... Converted to 4.1
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Okay...
Didn't see that coming. If you look at my post I said I'm possibly getting a new phone not telling you I am and I was asking people if they felt the same. Also it's been months since its release so the fact that it's only 2 real ROMs for this phone makes me upset no, disrespect to devs obviously but it does seem like this phone is getting like no attention and it's one if the best phones out. Converting to n4 is a bit too much just to enjoy this phone. This phone was meant to be an LGOG not a nexus ..it would have been named nexus
Anyways that was just a thought/concern I had about the phone.. Don't see why people are offended?
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Nobody bothered to develop ICS Roms other than pretty much stock based ones since we were promised Jelly Bean so early and obviously that didn't happen. Once Jelly Bean gets officially released, I know the devs will be all over it and Roms won't be an issue. The nexus 4 conversion is easy to do, I did it intoxicated twice. So either do that or just be patient. We're just waiting on AT&T now
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I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
Might I suggest checking out the development and original development threads?
You can currently follow along with joelz while they trouble shoot a new port.
AOSP
CM10
MIUI
Sense 4
Sense 5
Several kernels
Looks like development to me.
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I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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Hmm... Can't tell if serious or troll
shobon said:
What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
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You may be blind sir...
cstrife999 said:
You may be blind sir...
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Im thinking that may be the case
Bigandrewgold said:
Im thinking that may be the case
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In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
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In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
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Braille
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Braille
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... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
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... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
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Seriously, is there something you want that is not developed such as a specific rom, kernel, recovery, etc?
I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
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I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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Is it because they are mostly built from the same base? I can see that being confusing to some, thinking there is no real development going on.. However, the same base != the same rom. There is real development going on for our device and all other devices on these forums.. I for one feel we have plenty to choose from and things are only going to get better and easier down the road... May have an official Sense 5 rom for the devs to play around with if Verizon gets things going.. I love it here!! Am I wrong? :good: :highfive::highfive:
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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That was sarcasm. In other words most of our roms have a completely different feel. On the GNex there were a lot of dups for sure.
Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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We also have MIUI!!!
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Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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Don't get me wrong, its an amazing phone that could easily compete with the SGS4, but it's Verizon exclusive so it never made it to that status. It was a mistake on Verizons and HTCs part to make this beast a carrier exclusive.
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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well, considering that verizon sells the iphone and the SGS4 (and the SGS3 if you want to talk about 2012), will them having close to 50% and 30% market share, respectively, i dont really see how the DNA could have been anywhere near a top seller. not to mention the note 2 and others. i would probably label this phone "unpopular". most people have never even heard of this phone. i'm glad they are making the "droid" branding exclusive to motorola. the DNA's exclusivity to Verizon killed the awesome potential this phone had. but still, i think we have awesome development. except, i dont understand why we have 5 million aosp roms.
Dear Devs,
Android 4.4 is out and will support our devices too. Any one to work on to support our beloved Optimus One or All developers moved to a high end device already.
Thanks,
Kiran Kumar
Ya Google said that the low end android smartphones having at least 512mb of ram can run Kitkat smoothly. It will be new birth to our beloved Lg optimus one
Waiting for our developers reaction.
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Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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But... what about porting AOSP rom ?)
OMG, but one problem all developers are to lazy work with this legacy device! Sorry am bad English
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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that's not a problem.
-_-
You are like "I want that new 4.4 thingy, i don't know the new features but who cares cos it's New! Yeee ^_^ make it work make it".
Don't get me wrong but,
GB or 2.3.x was the best Android OS for our p500, well i still believe it is.
Why?
Cos there wasn't any Fc's, no post like "oh nooo camera image sh1ty", no malfunction on hardware level nor software,
Some dev, cavemen i believe was his name, fixed our multitouch problem, i don't think this fix was implemented on ics or jb since i've never found any evidence for it, test with "multitouch app" see what i mean.
The ICS is still in development, 4.2 JB has reached his final build, 4.3 has started it's dev.
With ICS we got less free ram, less free storage space but we gained better UI, kinda, and most important better system compatibility. Battery was somewhat intact.
With JB 4.2 we got the 3.0 kernel, more functionality and great battery drain but huge with wifi on. Less ram again, less space, new bugs, and the end of p500 gaming era xD.
Custom Rom numbers have fallen a lot too.
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
(i find Talho and Ginger DX best Roms, Talho as you know for gaming and Ginger as the best customized rom, so much functionality. But I'm running JB only cos gives me the BEST sound quality.)
Cheers.
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Is the new google experience launcher work? I mean does it at least work at the basic level?
please don't expect nexus 4 or nexus 5 functions shinny gimmick but if at least the basic feature of a launcher works then it is little improvement
to experience the feel of newer OS
as for the comment about perfecting 4.0 or 4.2
I am a bit in the middle with that .
because usually newer code is cleaner, thus more efficient, and who knows it maybe backward port friendly
and I think our development for 4.0 and 4.2 has reached is max because of the kernel limitation (correct me if I am wrong)
trying to port 4.4 would be an interesting hack In my opinion . a challange
and proof of concept I know software developer / programmer likes to proof their concept
they like challenge
try and get the google experience launcher here
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/31/download-and-install-the-new-google-experience-launcher/
nomancoolboy said:
Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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Velvet will fix this
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Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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chalo99 said:
Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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But the source is not available for armv6 devices ...so we have to wait
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I think that cm will be habit late so why don't you drvs start with another ROM! Maybe simple aosp or a better one slimkat which is already out for nexus 4. I believe that slimkat will fit our phone perfectly as it is slim and needs less system storage.
Thx in advance! Devs are making a valuable effort! Hats off for them!
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another version of google launcher
this time it is XDA version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506488
Velvet FCs for me. Problem may well be an armv7 jni once again. Those FCs make the launcher really fun.
There is a launcher3.apk around which bypasses the Google Now business.
Will 4.4 run on our devices? Really?
Two problems:
Armv6! Pre-compiled closed source stuff for armv7. Just like before.
Room on /system for various new libraries. I am trying them on sdext with symlinks. This is Linux so this should work. This is Android so who knows?
Newer gapps and components are bigger than ever. Sort of contradicts all the buzz.
I was wrong ..
Most of the people are using it as a primary phones :thumbup::thumbup:
Thats good
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Left4DeadMW said:
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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Exactly. Project Svelte is what I was referring to. So we should see some better performance than with Jelly Bean.
Logan_M said:
But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Perhaps.
Never said something like useless.
And getting high expect = won't get disappointed at the end.
So kitkat4.4 would have better performance then JB?
I mean, CM team spend time porting/dev JB ROM to our, well I might as say old, p500 and couldn't perfect it, greatest issues still are camera/battery/more space same storage, as android versions progress more and more storage space is taken, as well as ram usage.
And now somehow, google will make 4.4 universal build with all features from previous versions?
Google hasn't made any ICS or JB p500 specific ROM then it would take so much time.
But, making universal builds for phones-alike would be better option but builds won't be phone specific optimized.
I doubt kitkat's realization. It's a nice though but imagine the number of phones that still run on ROMs under JB.
EDIT: (source: xda and wiki)
"video playback performance issues due to missing libraries for hardware assisted decoding since ICS"
Would this be fixed? I remember now, I could never watched those Naruto downloaded ep's, video playback was like 1frame-per-sec (online streaming still fine)
Coming from the galaxy nexus this phone is really nice. Super fast, nice screen, and overall a great feel. The factory interface isn't too bad, but I do still prefer vanilla android. I'm on T-Mobile and there is a lot of bloatware on here. Does anyone foresee this phone getting much attention from devs?
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jnralp00 said:
Coming from the galaxy nexus this phone is really nice. Super fast, nice screen, and overall a great feel. The factory interface isn't too bad, but I do still prefer vanilla android. I'm on T-Mobile and there is a lot of bloatware on here. Does anyone foresee this phone getting much attention from devs?
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Check out the dev sections, already tons of ROM's out for it including several AOSP ROM's. It's a great phone, welcome to the G2 world!
jnralp00 said:
Coming from the galaxy nexus this phone is really nice. Super fast, nice screen, and overall a great feel. The factory interface isn't too bad, but I do still prefer vanilla android. I'm on T-Mobile and there is a lot of bloatware on here. Does anyone foresee this phone getting much attention from devs?
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Just curious, what exactly makes you prefer vanilla Android over LG's UI on the G2?
I'll be joining the G2 community soon. Can tell you now... My plan is to root, stay on stock system and heavily debloat and tweak the system myself. Personally I'm tired of flashing roms and dealing with fixes, workaround and bugs. That's why I'm now on stock on my S2....And plan to keep it that way. After the tweaking and debloating it's smoother, better battery life and bugless.. Unlike just about any custom rom I've ever ran. I totally get the fun of flashing stuff and all that tho..... I'm just personally done with it. I just want a super stable device.
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jordache16 said:
Just curious, what exactly makes you prefer vanilla Android over LG's UI on the G2?
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I don't use any of the bloatware from tmobile. I prefer the simple clean look of aosp.
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jnralp00 said:
I don't use any of the bloatware from tmobile. I prefer the simple clean look of aosp.
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I believe he is asking why you like AOSP over LG's skin, not bloatware related since that can be removed either way.
I said I prefer the simple clean look of aosp....
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Root it. Freeze and or remove bloatware. You can also remove the bottom software keys.
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I don't want or need the bells and whistles LG baked into their launcher/home app. 7 gigs for a phone OS is pure crap. Just my opinion.
How big is the N5 ROM?
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give it a try, you might find yourself sold on the stock ui, its much smoother then any custom rom I have seen, even with all the bloat. This is coming from an recovered flasher.
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I just installed CleanROM XE 2.0 - more details in the AT&T dev thread. I've the AT&T LG G2, but it looks like it's set up to work on the T-Mobile variant too. Two days in and I think it's a keeper - performs really well and battery life seems just a bit better than stock. The way that the dev set up the install allows you to cherry pick the features that you want to keep from stock, as well as some of the stock software. It's a pretty slick install and I'm happy with this stock mod. Check out the details - the big draw for me is no Carrier IQ - and see if you like it.