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Hello,
Just wanted to know if the new yellow model specifically still supports 1700 AWS 3G like the initial black models Rogers sold does.
Also, I'm assuming Nokia in the USA will not honor the warranty of a Canadian phone?
OJ in Compton said:
Hello,
Just wanted to know if the new yellow model specifically still supports 1700 AWS 3G like the initial black models Rogers sold does.
Also, I'm assuming Nokia in the USA will not honor the warranty of a Canadian phone?
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Correct & correct. When Rogers updated their supply of L920s they only added new colors. The internals are the same. I believe you can even see for yourself on their site.
Rogers, best L920 version!
I have seen this question asked multiple times on this forum so I thought I'd just make a thread.
The AT&T Lumia 920 has the hardware to support pentaband 3G including AWS. This means you CAN use it on T-Mobile and the other Canadian AWS carriers like WIND and any of their MVNOs. Unfortunately it is DISABLED out of the box. You will need to flash an alternate ROM to enable the AWS band!
You will need to install Nokia Care Suite and flash your phone to a different ROM. This will WIPE your phone, but it will enable AWS 3G!
Just flashing the Euro Dev ROM should get enable AWS 3G. It is for the RM-821 but you can flash RM-821 ROMs on the RM-820 without issue. I believe the only difference between the two models is what signal amplifiers and antennas they have installed as their ROMs are cross-compatible.
Check out this thread from January for posts from people who have gotten their AT&T L920 working on T-Mobile AWS. These were some of the lucky few who got their unlock code before May 9.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097815&highlight=aws+3g
NOTE: ONLY FLASH RM-820 OR RM-821 ROMS! Do NOT flash ROMs for any phone other than the Lumia 920 to your Lumia 920!
I can't offer you any support and am obviously not responsible if you brick your device (though this really shouldn't happen).
I thought only the Rogers 920 was Pentaband. The AT&T version actually has a different transceiver in it which puts a physical limit on the bands it uses.
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petard said:
You will need to install Nokia Care Suite and flash your phone to a different ROM. This will WIPE your phone, but it will enable AWS 3G! Just flashing the Euro Dev ROM should get enable AWS 3G.
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I have an unlocked AT&T Lumia 920 and would like to enable AWS 1700/2100 for WIND Mobile in Canada. I have flashed in the following order using Nokia Care Suite 5.0.0 (2013.1.3):
Flash to Pre-Portico Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.2109.1242.1002_039
OTA Update to Rogers ROM (1308)
Flash to European Developer ROM: RM821_059R4H6_1232.5957.1308.0002_027
Flash to Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.5962.1314.0000_156
Flash to Global Black Swap ROM: RM821_059Q5C6_1232.5951.1249.1004_044 (No H/H+ as claimed by others, LTE disappeared from network options)
Flash to Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.5962.1314.0000_156
No luck bringing up WIND on AWS 1700/2100, whereas my Rogers Lumia 920 is bringing it up on 3G/4G. Everything I have seen is pretty general instructions which leaves a lot of details out so this is the best I can do. Anyone else manage to do this that can provide more detailed instructions?
Solarenemy68 said:
I thought only the Rogers 920 was Pentaband. The AT&T version actually has a different transceiver in it which puts a physical limit on the bands it uses.
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Where did you read this? I've never seen this and I've only read about some people managing to get AWS enabled. They're both the same model number.
In one of the many threads discussing which phone is better, the Rogers or the AT&T version. Check out this page, I was even corrected in the fact i thought they where the same till several said otherwise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045639&page=2
Solarenemy68 said:
In one of the many threads discussing which phone is better, the Rogers or the AT&T version. Check out this page, I was even corrected in the fact i thought they where the same till several said otherwise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045639&page=2
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I think you might have posted an incorrect link. No one says anything like that in this thread.
And if that were the case how come multiple people have reported success enabling AWS on the ATT L920? Plus that doesn't really make sense for it to not have the hardware to do AWS 3G because it has the signal amplifier to do AWS LTE which runs on the same bands.
petard said:
I think you might have posted an incorrect link. No one says anything like that in this thread.
And if that were the case how come multiple people have reported success enabling AWS on the ATT L920? Plus that doesn't really make sense for it to not have the hardware to do AWS 3G because it has the signal amplifier to do AWS LTE which runs on the same bands.
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There's only 1 user who has explicitly stated that they (possibly) weren't just connecting to refarmed 1900mhz towers unfortunately. Still, as someone who's been browsing these forums for months hoping for some kind of breakthrough, I hadn't seen that post and it gives me hope.
Colinbo, why don't you shoot a private message to dullerm and ask for more details? It certainly looks to me like you followed the steps correctly from what you posted.
OJ in Compton said:
There's only 1 user who has explicitly stated that they (possibly) weren't just connecting to refarmed 1900mhz towers unfortunately. Still, as someone who's been browsing these forums for months hoping for some kind of breakthrough, I hadn't seen that post and it gives me hope.
Colinbo, why don't you shoot a private message to dullerm and ask for more details? It certainly looks to me like you followed the steps correctly from what you posted.
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He did not follow dullerm's directions. Here is the quote for comparison.
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To follow up my previous post: after flashing some more, I managed to enable the AWS band on my AT&T Lumia 920. Unless T-Mobile lit up a 1900 tower just in the few minutes that the phone was rebooting after flashing GLOBAL BLACK SWAP, I am certain that I can now use 3G on AWS with it. For those who are interested, here is what I did to my AT&T Lumia 920:
start off with a Portico AT&T ROM (OTA-updated a few weeks ago on the still locked phone)
remove SIM unlock with AT&T provided unlock code
flash pre-Portico Rogers ROM
OTA-update to Portico Rogers ROM
flash Portico EURO1 DEV ROM (RM-821!)
flash Portico Rogers ROM
flash Portico LTA1 MX ROM
flash Portico GLOBAL BLACK SWAP ROM (RM-821!) ---> saw H, H+ indicator after this!!!
flash Portico Rogers ROM ---> 4G indicator
While flashing the LTA1 MX ROM (the Latin America ROMs are nicely debranded RM-820 ROMs but don't support LTE, at least in their cellular settings for highest connection speed), I decided for whatever reason to just give another RM-821 ROM a try and went for the GLOBAL BLACK SWAP. Maybe flashing EURO1 DEV again would have also done the trick as well and just flashing back and forth somehow enabled AWS. I don't know exactly what caused it but I am happy AWS works on the AT&T Lumia 920. This phone now certainly is the Überphone
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Also more than one person has claimed to have AWS 3G working. Not only dullerm says he enabled it but so do these THREE other people, for a total of 4, just from that one thread.
ka24 said:
DAMN! thanks mate , I just flashed RM-821 VAR EURO1 DEVELOPER firmware on my device it enabled AWS. I was skeptical flashing RM-821 firmware on RM-820. My developer device is back to running on HSPA on T Mobile . Now question is if it enables AWS for all those unlocked devices , which I think it should.
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patrick92260 said:
Just tried a T-Mobile sim and it looks like I have AWS enabled now too on my sim unlocked att 920! Now the only thing left is to make sure LTE still works...
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jhr said:
what story, or what phrase or how many phone calls...pretty much coach us what keywords to use to convince AT&T to persuade them to give us the unlock code for our 920's
Any feedback would be great. Thanks
While flashing the LTA1 MX ROM (the Latin America ROMs are nicely debranded RM-820 ROMs but don't support LTE, at least in their cellular settings for highest connection speed), I decided for whatever reason to just give another RM-821 ROM a try and went for the GLOBAL BLACK SWAP. Maybe flashing EURO1 DEV again would have also done the trick as well and just flashing back and forth somehow enabled AWS. I don't know exactly what caused it but I am happy AWS works on the AT&T Lumia 920. This phone now certainly is the Überphone
for the latin america roms, debranded and no LTE, did you get "4G" from att service, not LTE? I have a AT&T Lumia 920 on Straight Talk, and they dont get LTE so I wont miss it. but if you can confirm. I will flash to my hearts content this weekend.
THanks
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In conclusion I have to believe the ATT L920 is fully capable of supporting AWS 3G.
So it seems that if simply flashing the Euro Dev ROM does not enable AWS for you, try flashing following the directions quoted above in this post including flashing the Latin America ROM
OJ in Compton said:
Colinbo, why don't you shoot a private message to dullerm and ask for more details? It certainly looks to me like you followed the steps correctly from what you posted.
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He did. Uploading the two ROMs he needs right now.
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He did. Uploading the two ROMs he needs right now.
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That's great. If we can get a fully reproducible method of enabling AWS on the ATT L920 I'm sure a LOT of people will be happy.
I unfortunately can not do any testing on my own L920 because I have AT&T AND I live in a refarmed T-Mobile area so I wouldn't be able to tell if I'm on AWS or 1900MHz.
H+, H and 4G indicators are all capable of showing up if you're connected to a 1900mhz tower on T-Mobile though which is why I'm still a bit skeptical. I believe dullerm since the chances of a 1900mhz tower going up while he was doing the tests is pretty slim. Colinbo is using his phone on Wind in canada which does not have 3G on 1900mhz, so if he can get it working it'll be definitive proof for me that this method does work.
And you're right, it seems he missed this step to flash the Portico LTA1 MX ROM.
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He did. Uploading the two ROMs he needs right now.
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Great, can't wait to see what his results are.
petard said:
He did not follow dullerm's directions
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You are correct - I was unable to locate the product code for the LTA1 MX ROM. I now have the product code thanks to dullerm's PM: 059S0M8
I'm pulling down the LTA MX1 bits now through NCS firmware download. It's slow so I'll re-attempt the flash tomorrow and report back. My plan is as follows:
Flash to Pre-Portico Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.2109.1242.1002_039
OTA Update to Rogers ROM (1308)
Flash to European Developer ROM: RM821_059R4H6_1232.5957.1308.0002_027
Flash to Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.5962.1314.0000_156
Flash to Latin America Mexico ROM: M820_059S0M8_1232.5957.1308.0001_036
Flash to Global Black Swap ROM: RM821_059Q5C6_1232.5951.1249.1004_044
Flash to Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.5962.1314.0000_156
As a pre-caution based on a post I saw somewhere I will also use the "Reset your phone" after every application of a ROM to ensure there are no old config values kicking around.
The comparison device I have is an unlocked Rogers Lumia 920 which is connecting to WIND showing 3G/4G indicators -- not sure if there is any way to tell which frequency it is using.
colinbo said:
You are correct - I was unable to locate the product code for the LTA1 MX ROM. I now have the product code thanks to dullerm's PM: 059S0M8
I'm pulling down the bits now through NCS firmware download. It's slow so I'll re-attempt the flash tomorrow and report back. My plan is as follows:
Flash to Pre-Portico Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.2109.1242.1002_039
OTA Update to Rogers ROM (1308)
Flash to European Developer ROM: RM821_059R4H6_1232.5957.1308.0002_027
Flash to Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.5962.1314.0000_156
Flash to Latin America Mexico ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.5962.1314.0000_156
Flash to Global Black Swap ROM: RM820_059S0M8_1232.5957.1308.0001_036
Flash to Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.5962.1314.0000_156
As a pre-caution based on a post I saw somewhere I will also use the "Reset your phone" after every application of a ROM to ensure there are no old config values kicking around.
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OK, that's great that you can get the missing ROM(s) yourself. My upload is awfully slow (or the ROMs large). Let me know if you still need them.
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H+, H and 4G indicators are all capable of showing up if you're connected to a 1900mhz tower on T-Mobile though which is why I'm still a bit skeptical. I believe dullerm since the chances of a 1900mhz tower going up while he was doing the tests is pretty slim. Colinbo is using his phone on Wind in canada which does not have 3G on 1900mhz, so if he can get it working it'll be definitive proof for me that this method does work.
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There is even a really definitive proof for it - you can check which tower you are on in the service menu:
Go to the phone app
Enter ##3282 and call; this will take you to the service menu
Choose "3G Reselection Status"
Look at the value for the 2nd line "Serving UARFCN", which gives the active downlink channel
If the UARFCN is 1xxx or 2xxx, you are on AWS (1700/2100). If it is below 1000 or 9xxx, you are on PCS (1900). This is not exact but good enough to tell AWS and PCS UMTS bands apart. And T-Mobile only uses those two bands for UMTS so the 1xxx-2xxx rule is easy to remember for on the road
For the exact channel numbers, please check this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands#UMTS-FDD
@petard You might still be able to tell the difference. T-Mobile is only deploying HSPA+ 21 on PCS (as far as I know) while on AWS they deployed HSPA+ 42. Probably not everywhere, though, and depending on the load of the tower, it might not make a difference after all. Just some detail to add.
dullerm said:
OK, that's great that you can get the missing ROM(s) yourself. My upload is awfully slow (or the ROMs large). Let me know if you still need them.
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There is even a really definitive proof for it - you can check which tower you are on in the service menu:
Go to the phone app
Enter ##3282 and call; this will take you to the service menu
Choose "3G Reselection Status"
Look at the value for the 2nd line "Serving UARFCN", which gives the active downlink channel
If the UARFCN is 1xxx or 2xxx, you are on AWS (1700/2100). If it is below 1000 or 9xxx, you are on PCS (1900). This is not exact but good enough to tell AWS and PCS UMTS bands apart. And T-Mobile only uses those two bands for UMTS so the 1xxx-2xxx rule is easy to remember for on the road
For the exact channel numbers, please check this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands#UMTS-FDD
@petard You might still be able to tell the difference. T-Mobile is only deploying HSPA+ 21 on PCS (as far as I know) while on AWS they deployed HSPA+ 42. Probably not everywhere, though, and depending on the load of the tower, it might not make a difference after all. Just some detail to add.
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##3282 and ##3282# don't do anything on my 920. I'm using AT&T ROM though. I am not going to flash it though, WP doesn't offer complete backup/restore and the 920 I experimented on I wasn't able to get it back to running the AT&T ROM. It was my 920 with dust in the FFC and I experimented with it when I got my replacement and before I sent the old one back.
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He did. Uploading the two ROMs he needs right now.
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Great, it looks we will have a simple method to recover AWS in att lumia 920.
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##3282 and ##3282# don't do anything on my 920. I'm using AT&T ROM though. I am not going to flash it though, WP doesn't offer complete backup/restore and the 920 I experimented on I wasn't able to get it back to running the AT&T ROM. It was my 920 with dust in the FFC and I experimented with it when I got my replacement and before I sent the old one back.
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Did you try typing ##3282 and then pressing "call"? Pre-portico did work without hitting call (#3282#, I think) but Portico ROMs (both AT&T, if I remember correctly, and Rogers) do require pressing call.
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Did you try typing ##3282 and then pressing "call"? Pre-portico did work without hitting call (#3282#, I think) but Portico ROMs (both AT&T, if I remember correctly, and Rogers) do require pressing call.
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Yeah I tried pressing call, doesn't work on my ATT L920 with latest OTA
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Yeah I tried pressing call, doesn't work on my ATT L920 with latest OTA
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It has been disabled since 1308.
ATT Lumia 920 on Tmobile
Hi all,
I would like to know if anyone had success using an ATT lumia 920 on Tmobile. I see some have had success. I would appreciate if someone could share the exact steps that would make it work.
I am planning to buy an unlocked ATT 920 (from amazon) and then try making it work on Tmobile. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Rom locations.
I have NaviFirm Plus 1.7 and its not accesing any files anymore.
I was wondering if anyone can share the files needed to make the ATT Lumia 920 completely work with TMobile USA. I have a you sent it account if that helps. Thanks.
Hello,
I've seen the thread that focusses on adding AWS to AT&T versions or re-adding AWS to Rogers versions, but has anyone tried enabling AWS on an RM-821? Could it work by flashing the Euro developer's ROM?
Thanks in advance!
hawc1506 said:
Hello,
I've seen the thread that focusses on adding AWS to AT&T versions or re-adding AWS to Rogers versions, but has anyone tried enabling AWS on an RM-821? Could it work by flashing the Euro developer's ROM?
Thanks in advance!
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The ROM does not control what bands the phone can receive. The bands are hardware and no ROM on earth will enable or disable them.
hawc1506 said:
Hello,
I've seen the thread that focusses on adding AWS to AT&T versions or re-adding AWS to Rogers versions, but has anyone tried enabling AWS on an RM-821? Could it work by flashing the Euro developer's ROM?
Thanks in advance!
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It is impossible to enable radios on a phone when they don't exist. Only the RM-820 variant has the AWS radios in the wireless modem. This is why you are able to possibly enable the respected radios with the AT&T model after flashing, due to them disabling the AWS radios for WCDMA/UMTS. On the European/international units, they use an entirely different LTE module to work with LTE networks outside the Americas (Russia for example uses the 2600MHz band for LTE, a frequency not present on the Americas' version). This incompatibility issue though, is good for power users, and LTE users everywhere. If your device was broadcasting all these different frequencies at once, the modem would simply drain your battery extremely fast. In the future, Qualcomm will release chipsets that will have all the frequencies needed on a single modem. The firmware would then optimize the LTE bands you need to use that operator's LTE network. Keep your hopes up and hope they release this within the next two years!
-Arekusandaa
So, I'm getting a bit sick of waiting for the Nokia Black firmware update to appear on Three UK, so I was thinking of flashing my phone to the Country Variant so I can get all the updates quicker.
I know LTE was disabled with the early CV-GB ROM, and then I think they enabled it, but does it enable all the LTE bands for that country? Any idea if the Three LTE bands are available, and would I lose anything by switching to the stock ROM?
elyl said:
So, I'm getting a bit sick of waiting for the Nokia Black firmware update to appear on Three UK, so I was thinking of flashing my phone to the Country Variant so I can get all the updates quicker.
I know LTE was disabled with the early CV-GB ROM, and then I think they enabled it, but does it enable all the LTE bands for that country? Any idea if the Three LTE bands are available, and would I lose anything by switching to the stock ROM?
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I've flashed My Lumia 920 cv-it and I didn't get the lite band... I think this will enabled by the provider
Does anyone have an authoritative link or source for the different S23 ultra regional model variants and their respective bandwidth frequencies such as for 4g and 5g?
Can't find this information for any including the USA variant eg which specific frequencies of 4g and 5g does the USA model support?
The chipset and x70 modem makes it possible for this phone to truly be a global phone but.....
asking the same as well, cant find these details.
Here's hoping that the band unlock methods for the s22's and s21's also work on the s23's.
jcsww said:
Here's hoping that the band unlock methods for the s22's and s21's also work on the s23's.
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I'm sure it will be the same to unlock the bands, no one will really know until they have one in hand.
Can you elaborate on these band unlock methods?
And could they unlock mmwave for example on the international variants so that 5g could work in US? And unlock international bands on US version so it could work everywhere else?
evangelionpunk said:
Can you elaborate on these band unlock methods?
And could they unlock mmwave for example on the international variants so that 5g could work in US? And unlock international bands on US version so it could work everywhere else?
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This is the thread you probably want to have a look at. This method also worked for the s21's.
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
What is this? This is a guide on how to enable all LTE and 5G bands on the US or Canadian S22 series phones by going through the service menu. This guide is mostly based on this S20U guide by mellojosh, but has been adapted for the S22U phone...
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jcsww said:
This is the thread you probably want to have a look at. This method also worked for the s21's.
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
What is this? This is a guide on how to enable all LTE and 5G bands on the US or Canadian S22 series phones by going through the service menu. This guide is mostly based on this S20U guide by mellojosh, but has been adapted for the S22U phone...
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Interesting....
So basically you could enter the service menu and turn on all the extra bands?
In that case wouldn't the US version be the best one to have since it would have mmwave hardware baked in too? It should then work everywhere.
Though it sounds like you'll lose the function on os updates and resets?
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Interesting....
So basically you could enter the service menu and turn on all the extra bands?
In that case wouldn't the US version be the best one to have since it would have mmwave hardware baked in too? It should then work everywhere.
Though it sounds like you'll lose the function on os updates and resets?
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OS updates from Samsung are never fast. Doing so once every 2 to 3 months isn't so bad for the extra band support.
Samsung's modem software works well for the US and Canada because the hardware is the same and only the modem software separates the bands based on carrier/region. Due to the wide spread of mess across North America, US and Canadian models are always a good choice for potential band support. In some cases though, mixed ROM's can also bridge the support. In the S9 days, you could.jeep.the base.for.your region but flash the carrier side of the firmware to unlock band 71 on some overseas models. I don't know if this is still possible today but with all devices being very similar. I am hoping the hardware, including dual-SIM pins on the main board, will be there to enable through a firmware change or mod.
Do we know if the international dual sim variant has the same USA hardware based on s22/21/20?
Does it have mmwave baked in but just disabled by software?
I am still not clear what 5G bands are supported on the SM-S918BZKPEUB, nor if unlocking the bands through the service menu works. @UK S23, your deliveries are in place already, has anyone tried?
It seems as though the bands might only be disabled in software? If so, then it should be possible to enable whatever band you need. The only exception would be if a hardware component is needed or missing then it wouldn't be possible which likely wouldn't be the case for your 3g, 4g and 5g standard range. Maybe only 5g mmwave which is essentially only in US anyway.
If that's the case it sounds like US variant might be the best to get for global coverage barring lack of dual sim (though it does have physical+esim).
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It seems as though the bands might only be disabled in software? If so, then it should be possible to enable whatever band you need. The only exception would be if a hardware component is needed or missing then it wouldn't be possible which likely wouldn't be the case for your 3g, 4g and 5g standard range. Maybe only 5g mmwave which is essentially only in US anyway.
If that's the case it sounds like US variant might be the best to get for global coverage barring lack of dual sim (though it does have physical+esim).
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Samsung's band support is mostly software, at least when it comes to 4G and 5G. I have never bothered to change 2G and 3G bands because there is no use for them unless you are in a very rural area or roaming. This is why it is so easy to convert the North American models and why in the days of the S9+, you could get band 71 on international models with dual-SIM.
jcsww said:
Samsung's band support is mostly software, at least when it comes to 4G and 5G. I have never bothered to change 2G and 3G bands because there is no use for them unless you are in a very rural area or roaming. This is why it is so easy to convert the North American models and why in the days of the S9+, you could get band 71 on international models with dual-SIM.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't get mmwave bands on the international dual sim models right?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't get mmwave bands on the international dual sim models right?
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I'm not sure when it comes to mmWave. You can enable it on the W for Canada even though the cell coverage and technologies used up there are probably never going to deploy it. Overseas, I have no idea.
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I'm not sure when it comes to mmWave. You can enable it on the W for Canada even though the cell coverage and technologies used up there are probably never going to deploy it. Overseas, I have no idea.
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I've read that the US and CA models are basically identical so that might explain it. It's also possible I suppose that in s23 since it uses x70 modem, which has native support built in, that all model variants might be able to do it but for software. Though we won't know for sure till someone from different region goes into their service menu and checks.
mmWave requires a specific antenna to function. This antenna used to cost like $50 but I'd be surprised if it's gone down much beyond $30 so manufacturers will still leave it out if it's not necessary.
EtherealRemnant said:
mmWave requires a specific antenna to function. This antenna used to cost like $50 but I'd be surprised if it's gone down much beyond $30 so manufacturers will still leave it out if it's not necessary.
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Thanks and that probably means it likely won't be in other region variants.
Personally, I'd just make a single phone that is globally universal and can be used everywhere. The massive scale should drop the component pricing considerably. Carrier exclusives and market restrictions if any needed in software only. But that's just me lol.
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Thanks and that probably means it likely won't be in other region variants.
Personally, I'd just make a single phone that is globally universal and can be used everywhere. The massive scale should drop the component pricing considerably. Carrier exclusives and market restrictions if any needed in software only. But that's just me lol.
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Yes, you would think they would do this, but Samsung has always customized difference models for different regions so it must not be that straightforward. I believe that regulatory bodies would require them to test and submit all the documentation for that extra antenna, for example. It also wouldn't surprise me if the mmWave equipment is outright banned in some regions either for whatever reason.
EtherealRemnant said:
Yes, you would think they would do this, but Samsung has always customized difference models for different regions so it must not be that straightforward. I believe that regulatory bodies would require them to test and submit all the documentation for that extra antenna, for example. It also wouldn't surprise me if the mmWave equipment is outright banned in some regions either for whatever reason.
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Yeah.
Are iphones globally all exactly the same now?
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Yeah.
Are iphones globally all exactly the same now?
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No. There are 5 different models of iPhone 14 Pro Max, for example, and each will have different band configurations.
That said, the NA models have the most complete bands of any device released so far this year and it was released last year with an older modem. They even have support for Dish Network's n70, a band exclusive to them worldwide, something Samsung didn't even choose to support on their NA variant this year despite having a contract with Dish for radio equipment supporting that band.
I actually think the NA iPhone 14 Pro models support every commercially available band worldwide but I don't really keep up on bands not used in the US.
iPhone 14 Pro Max Model Number A2651, A2893, A2894, A2896, A2895 Differences - TechWalls
The iPhone 14 Pro Max comes in 5 model numbers, which are A2651, A2893, A2894, A2896, and A2895. Let's check out their differences and all the part numbers.
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