Video recording at gigs - Galaxy Note II Themes and Apps

Hi guys. Just a quick query - I was recording 1 or 2 short videos at a gig I went to recently. When I got home I checked the quality and the picture was fantastic. Fair play. The sound was awful though. When it got too loud it couldn't deal with it. Something which my iphone (shudders) could. Is there an app that can handle high levels of volume when recording at gigs for example?

If the microphones are maxing out then there's nothing any app could do to fix it. You'll need to muzzle the microphone holes somehow, perhaps your fingers might be enough. There are holes at both ends of the phone because it's stereo input.

We used to have Supercurio for that, his work was awesome for the SGS1. he really maxed out the Wolfson chip inside.
Too bad he's not really motivated to do this anymore for the note 2/SGS3.

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[Q] Poor audio quality in camera record. There's a reason?

HI,
I want to see if the problem is only with me. Right now I'm really disappointed from Samsung. here shows comparison of camera quality:
iphone 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKm-7rzfS2g&feature=player_embedded#at=124
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGAteITuZVo&feature=player_embedded#at=59
s2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TFm93qvGnU&feature=player_embedded#at=65
Quality absolutely awful compared to the iPhone 4, there are quite strong background noise (Even I was recording in a completely quiet room I can hear background noise)...
* I will note that the Hacked Camera.APK mod of Potatoman still did not help
Is my cell phone is broken or simply Samsung had blown it???
it seems that you were standing right infont of the left loud speaker, were with the iphone it seams the guy way in the middle. so it wont get so much distortion.
I have the same problem with my S2 when the outside audio level is high.
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i far from the speakers , the iphone 4 is closer to the speakers
and you can hear the different.
and i have more video that you can hear that iPhone better if you wants..
i try to fix the S2 problem mic record not to compare.
thanks
Are you certain you installed the Camera.apk correctly? 6 seconds should equal roughly 12Mb (stock is about 9). If anything this is either the modded camera (When I used it the audio was very shrill, much like the video you recorded. This is due to the larger sampling and bit rates.), Samsung screwed up (maybe this is just how the mic records), OR you were standing in a poor location (the two video weren't recorded in the same place from the look of it).
I think that being close to a speaker should not be a problem if the auto-volume adjustment worked properly. What we are trying to understand here is if this is just a problem with our devices or a general issue. Is there anybody who can confirm that videorecording live music performances with the S2 does NOT produce distorted audio?
haka.it said:
I have the same problem with my S2 when the outside audio level is high.
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Same problem here as well...
same problem, please help
Same problem! I would love to see a fix for that. Even a little bit of wind will screw up the sounds completely. I'm also looking for an external mic now....
It looks like you can't use an external mic either...
outofmyelement said:
I just did a test with 2 different earbuds w/mic. the Camera app doesn't seem to use the external microphone when recording video, it just uses the internal mic. When I used the voice recorder app it does indeed use the external mic and makes a huge difference.
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somebody can help us?
Problems with the sound during a video recording ?
Welcome to Samsung
No during,
after we record video
we wants to hear and we have a lot of white noise and loud audio,
you can hear the video i upload, the iphone 4 is better.
" welcome to samsung "
noo, i believe that the best developers can help us
maormark said:
Quality absolutely awful compared to the iPhone 4, there are quite strong background noise (Even I was recording in a completely quiet room I can hear background noise)
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I have the same problem (record in a quite room with no noise, then when i play it back there's a hiss)
I've checked Youtube and there's only 1 video demonstrates this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pePAqjgugHM
Now is this a fault with the phone or can I fix it? Just wanted to ask before I send it back to Samsung.
The white noise (hissing sound) comes from a plastic piece inside the phone that is over the microphone. Removing it removes the white noise. You cannot do this without voiding the warranty, so bringing it down to the service center would be a good idea.
The plastic piece over the mic is like cupping your ears with your hands. HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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It looks like you can't use an external mic either...
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Now that I am on Android 2.3.4, recording video using an external microphone works. I used your headphone mic and I got rid of the distortion. Has anyone tried the Brando Mini Capsule Microphone (or any other mini microphone) on their SII?

Video Settings

On my old HD2 the video wasn't bad but when i was in a club and took some vids the bass distortion was always there,i tried playing around with the settings but still couldn't get rid of the distortion, with the GS2 having more settings can someone recommend what settings i should set if if im looking to shoot some vids in a club playing dance music,basically i don't want heavy bass distortion i want it to be smooth and clear.
thanks
Basically, dont use your phone to record in such situations as the mic simply is not designed for such applications.
I really dont think any amount of tweaking the settings will help.
The mic is simply too small to cope with the levels it will be subjected to.
But ive seen recordings taken by other people who's phone wouldn't be half as good as the GS2 and there is no bass distortion so im thinking there has to be a way, i don't particularly want to, and cant really afford a camcorder,if you've spent this much money on a phone that is capable of 1080 recording surely eradicating bass distortion should be able to be achieved, or can anyone even recommend an app that could be capable of this.
cheers
had the same problems with recording my son's rock bank music. We tried out many things and ended up putting a little cotton with a clear film on top of the mic . After this the bass came softer and didn't swallow the rest of the music. However, my son had the better idea, we recorded the sound with an external recorder and sync the sound later onto the video. that worked perfect except it is a little work but when you have to cut your video you can easily edit the sound during the cut.
hope this helped
RbbCHan said:
had the same problems with recording my son's rock bank music. We tried out many things and ended up putting a little cotton with a clear film on top of the mic . After this the bass came softer and didn't swallow the rest of the music. However, my son had the better idea, we recorded the sound with an external recorder and sync the sound later onto the video. that worked perfect except it is a little work but when you have to cut your video you can easily edit the sound during the cut.
hope this helped
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Yeah covering the mic to attenuate the levels is a pretty good idea.
There are a lot of variables involved as well. Ie. distance from the sound source, where you are in the building, overall freq spectrum coming from the source at the time of recording etc.....
Trial and error.....
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Is there some type of app or program which can reduce bass distortion?
I haven't actually used the video yet at any gigs or clubs but i will be doing so.

Video Quality Examples

meh, i'm not as impressed as i was days ago. i did some 720 and 1080 tests; 720 looks like kinda crappy on the pc and pixelates easily, and 1080 looks better...720 is nice because it's 60fps, though. (actually, this is what i was told..and 720 looks smoother....buuuuuut in windows, ti still says my 720 videos are 30fps?! wtf? any ideas anyone?)
recorded some guitar videos; the video looks good, but the audio is GOD AWFUL. it encodes at 128kbps; that's absolte ****. i set the videos to mono, so maybe that has something to do with it, but idk.
either way, there's random clicks and pops and the frequency of the audio continuously changes, making it sounds like complete ass and there being no consistant guitar tone in it.
then again, this is just a phone that can also make videos, so who am i to complain? lol
720p guitar:
http://youtu.be/FiJodPE8ZYQ
1080p guitar:
http://youtu.be/5IMRlQ6Bx2s
720p outside with dog:
http://youtu.be/T2rr3k-MqjE
720p outside with dog 2:
http://youtu.be/nE1xw7YY0mI
slowmo 720 (which i think is pretty sweet):
http://youtu.be/1kyJkxzri70
1080p outside:
http://youtu.be/zfeeC574R5Q
JUST video quality, 1080p, not a lot of light (audio in these comes from my guitarport USB interface)
http://youtu.be/Nf-OB0y9B3E
http://youtu.be/WLwzK_QKuSA
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11/21 Vids (i have a feeling this mic just can't handle lows well, so when certain low freqs hit, something is messing up and making that squink noise. i guess my drums aren't hitting that low of a freq that my bass cab (which is four 15 inch speakers) and my guitar cab (four 12 inch speakers) are apparently throwing out.)
1080p Drums: (sound clipped a bit, but don't notice the squink noise)
http://youtu.be/Dl29M4jlyvE
1080p Bass: (lower freqs mess it up)
http://youtu.be/OYiG4NyONoQ
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added 11/24, still has pops and freq changes
blues rock improv:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56I1hBjecpc
panama (sloppy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn2M8vpTHqQ
honestly, the quality of the audio is really starting to piss me off. 128kbps is NOT ENOUGH for a camera to encode audio, damnit! time to continue with my open ticket to HTC about their ****ty audio.
overall, the audio is INCREDIBLY disappointing. why do they make high quality video, with such ****ty audio? i guess they figure the public doesn't know the difference between 128kbps and 320, which is kind of lame. oh well. guess i'll continue to use my crappy $40 kodak waterproof 720p camera for guitar vids lol
i propose that somehow, app devs or regular devs, we should all look into making the audio record at a higher quality. for example, built in voice memo records at like 96kbps..which is awful. tape recorder, a free app, can record up to 320mbps, which is MUCH better. there's gotta be a way to change that in the built in camera app, or maybe a new app that utilizies 1080p video and can record at a higher bitrate!
the problem with the pixelation is the intense hand movements with the guitar are too much for the phone not to mention the awesomeness of the sound being produced by the guitar is also too much for the phone to handle.
i have not checked out the other videos(just the guitar ones) so no comment on those.
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hahahahaha now THAT'S a response i can live with
when you watch the 720p outside dog videos, you'll notice some colors seem to "lump" together and pixelate.
did you hear how it sounds like there's a phasing effect on the guitar videos' audio? sounds like it's phasing in and out of diff frequencies. i wonder, maybe this built in mic just can't handle loud volumes..but at the same time, that amp wasn't THAT loud :\
Your phone isn't meant to replace a high end video camera, lol. I have a ContourGPS race camera that I used all the time. The 720p was capable of 60fps and a wider angle than 1080p so I almost never used 1080p.
I forgot I had the mic sensors turned down, so if you actually want to watch the video put the volume up lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM2iPxNem0k
damn i think they came out pretty good. I havent check out the video cam yet...sweet dog too....I rescued a Lab/Rhodesian RidgeBack last year...
And don't even try recording on a high volume environment like a club. Sound really bad. Distorted. NOKIA n9 and iPhone 4 even wp7 sound from videos way way better quality. Every htc phone I owned sound from videos its been crap
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yeah, it's because the mic's are too sensitive and they record at suhc a low bitrate. my amp wasn't that loud, and there's serious frequency issues, it's like constantly readjusting to the frequency, even though my guitar tone/freq isn't changing.
etiher way i don't expect it to replace high end, but i do expect it to replace low end. my kodak is a cheap 40 dollar 720p crappy little camera, which records much better audio, but ****ty video...if you watch a few of my videos on there, i've done them with that camera, and you can hear how the audio is exponentially better, even though it's still crap.
in a phone where AUDIO IS THE SELLING POINT, why teh F would HTC screw this up so damn bad for the video camera? that's what pisses me off.
AtLemacks said:
Your phone isn't meant to replace a high end video camera, lol. I have a ContourGPS race camera that I used all the time. The 720p was capable of 60fps and a wider angle than 1080p so I almost never used 1080p.
I forgot I had the mic sensors turned down, so if you actually want to watch the video put the volume up lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM2iPxNem0k
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that's awesome dude. stang?
Yep, 04 Cobra, just traded it 3 weeks ago, I blew out all my control arm bushings that day, it was too hot to race on the setup I had. That was my 3rd heat, which is why you see me lose the rear end on the 2nd lap around turn 11.
But, even the mics on that camera suck ass. They positioned them on the front of the body, so exterior videos sound like **** without the sensor turned way down. I wouldn't expect a phone to be any better than a camera that is made specifically for high wind high volume sports.
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Wind examples....... disgusting
http://contour.com/stories/3rd-run
http://contour.com/stories/run-3--2
Nice, i knew a chick who had an 04 mystichrome cobra.
Yeah, Idk man. Thers gotta be a way to get better audio quality on this thing haha
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Only thing I can think is what you should already know being a musician! Fabricate some sort of insulating piece that can cover the mic. I just realized this phone doesn't have noise cancelling mics. The X2 had 3 mics.
wait, it doesn't? i thought it had 2 mics too?
AtLemacks said:
Your phone isn't meant to replace a high end video camera, lol. I have a ContourGPS race camera that I used all the time. The 720p was capable of 60fps and a wider angle than 1080p so I almost never used 1080p.
I forgot I had the mic sensors turned down, so if you actually want to watch the video put the volume up lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM2iPxNem0k
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"Granny shifting, not double-clutching like you should"
hahahahaaha ok vin diesel
lol, was my first time ever on a road course and had no instructor to tell me what was up, I had only ever Auto-x and Drag raced prior... But I wasn't RPM matching, and that the issue initially, the bushings were all shot by that heat, there was no coming back for it. Double clutching is unnecessary.
added a couple more videos to OP; these ones are just video quality...turned sound off, and synced up with sound i recorded on my PC throuhg my usb guitar port. synced them together, so the audio/video sync isn't perfect
Dude, you are good as ****! lol I am JUST learning how to play. Bought my girl a guitar for Christmas too.
haha thanks man, i've been playing for like 11 years now lol..
what kinda gear do you have? what kind did ya get her?
know what else i noticed?
slow mo feature randomly just freezes up for a second and then starts again..i thought it was just how the video was on the phone, but nope, it's even on youtube...watch, you'll see what i mean. it's going along..just freezes for a sec or two..then starts again. ugh.
Just an Epiphone Special-II GT. I got her a Fender Acoustic, she is more serious about learning than I am lol.
I am trying the slow mo feature right now, I wonder if maybe it is the SD card Read/Write speed?
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Mine skipped on me too in 720p.

poor video recorded sound quality

Just wondering what you guys think of it? I go to a lot of concerts and music festivals and the video quality on the note is superb. However, the sound from the video is horrible. The one thing that me and my friends all agree upon is the video sound recording on the iphone is better than any phone out there. The note simply cannot handle loud sounds, particularly really loud bass. The sound on the whole video is just off and it sounds like the microphone is in direct wind. Dont get me wrong, I love the note and I am an android fanboy, however I think this is an area which the iphone dominates. What do you guys think about the sound recording quality? Is there anyway to fix this through software? hardware?
never found a problem with audio from video recordings. few weeks ago i was filming a drift event at a local track and sound came out fine with all the loud noises going on.
Speaking of, do you guys have any YouTube links of vids with your note?
I just can't seem to live with out a removable storage, and I have been leaning in the notes direction.
I am just worried about video, and pic quality with the note...I had a 4g galaxy s and the pics were awful.
Sorry if I am hijacking.
What's your honest.opinions about vid quality?
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the playback of audio recorded with a video is going to bad if you are recording anything with a lot of bass or any high dB sounds that are above the microphones ability to capture. These phones use a microphone thats really just a small speaker, when loud sounds are being emitted and your trying to capture them they can ofter "bottom out" the microphone so that all you hear is loud static distortion or if the bass is really heavy, nothing at all.
freakboy13 said:
Speaking of, do you guys have any YouTube links of vids with your note?
I just can't seem to live with out a removable storage, and I have been leaning in the notes direction.
I am just worried about video, and pic quality with the note...I had a 4g galaxy s and the pics were awful.
Sorry if I am hijacking.
What's your honest.opinions about vid quality?
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I think the video quality is awesome on this phone. I haven't watched them on any external devices though, my opinion is purely off of viewing the videos off the phone.
As far as the drift meet you went to, I'm pretty sure the note can handle the sounds of screeching tires, I am mainly talking about BASS. I understand that almost all devices have a certain limit until the microphone can no longer handle the strong bass. The sound gets distorted, and you can't hear anything else. All I am saying is that somehow the iphone is able to handle strong bass at a concert even when you are standing pretty close to the stage. Anyone else experience the distorted sound on their note?
I have personally experienced this and it must be due to the different build qualities of the microphone. Is it possible to attach an external microphone via the headphone jack and use that to record video sound rather than using the one built into the phone? that would make a huge difference IMO
freakboy13 said:
Speaking of, do you guys have any YouTube links of vids with your note?
I just can't seem to live with out a removable storage, and I have been leaning in the notes direction.
I am just worried about video, and pic quality with the note...I had a 4g galaxy s and the pics were awful.
Sorry if I am hijacking.
What's your honest.opinions about vid quality?
sent from my hoXl
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www.android-dev.us
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http://youtu.be/N06GsbGyh28 shot this 2 weeks ago, first time messing with video on the phone, i was impressed by the clarity of both picture and sound, just need a dern zoom feature while filming
also not sure why your expecting amazing quality sound from recording a live performance, no matter what phone if ur close to the speakers your not going to get non distorted sound, ive owned every iphone and never heard clear quality sound after going back and watching vids i took at partys and such, i do belive i saw something on engadget the other day about a better quality mic u can plug into the headphones jack
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/31/irig-mic-cast-hands-on/ well its for idevices but im sure there has to be something similar for android
I was just thinking about this before bed last night. I was looking at some recently shot kareoke videos from my note. The audio quality is absolutely horrendous. Like...disappointing bad.
My atrix was was leaps and bounds better. Was able to handle (and reproduce) bass just fine. Never distorted the audio like the note does. From concerts (rock mind you) to kareoke, anything...I guess its an unfortunate con ill have to live with.
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freakboy13 said:
Speaking of, do you guys have any YouTube links of vids with your note?
I just can't seem to live with out a removable storage, and I have been leaning in the notes direction.
I am just worried about video, and pic quality with the note...I had a 4g galaxy s and the pics were awful.
Sorry if I am hijacking.
What's your honest.opinions about vid quality?
sent from my hoXl
got a-Dev ?
www.android-dev.us
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I know exactly what you mean, in terms of capturing sound at, say...a concert. It is overpowered. I've heard that one way to tackle this problem is to put tape, or a finger, over the mic hole when recording.
Here's a vid I took when I saw The Black Keys a cpl months ago. I even wrote in the description that it's a shame the sound is crappy...
http://youtu.be/oHB95ciSArA
Projectdwnshft said:
http://youtu.be/N06GsbGyh28 shot this 2 weeks ago, first time messing with video on the phone, i was impressed by the clarity of both picture and sound, just need a dern zoom feature while filming
also not sure why your expecting amazing quality sound from recording a live performance, no matter what phone if ur close to the speakers your not going to get non distorted sound, ive owned every iphone and never heard clear quality sound after going back and watching vids i took at partys and such, i do belive i saw something on engadget the other day about a better quality mic u can plug into the headphones jack
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/31/irig-mic-cast-hands-on/ well its for idevices but im sure there has to be something similar for android
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I am not expecting amazing sound quality, just good enough so that it doesnt sound like crap. Obviously microphones on phones have their limits, but as I have stated, and as others in this thread have stated, the note is pretty bad at recording sound. My girlfriend has an iphone and all of my friends have iphones, and trust me, the sound recording is much better on it. Still love my Note though, best phone ever!
I seen rammstein and just like the others said.. Very loud sounds makes the audio sound very muffled and hard to hear.. I wonder if I had the the recording volume set halfway. If it would of sounded better?
Intro rammstein:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=iz5ln0mDOZ0
Rammstein du hast mich song: The fire on the stage even made my video playback weird from the light!
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=iz5ln0mDOZ0
I can tell you this, its way better than HTCs Video playback. Their sound quality is low.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
SKyRocKeting727 said:
I can tell you this, its way better than HTCs Video playback. Their sound quality is low.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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That's sad. Because I can't imagine anything worse than the note... makes me miss my atrix.
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I found a solution by connecting the ear set of the phone and using it`s mic to rec sound. At levels as high as 110db that i tested (in a consert)
Sound quality was audible enough. So thats my pov on this subject. You should try it.

does the V30 have a knob to control the directivity of the microphones?

The V20 has a directional setting for the sound when recording video. You can bias the recording to sounds coming from either the lens side or the screen side of the phone. The former is great for when you are recording people or events, the latter has been fantastic when the shooter is commenting on what is being videoed. Does the V30 still have this front-to-back mic bias selector?
The V30 does not have that slider. Not exactly sure why but the guess is due to the mic arrangement.
The V20 had three mics that were constant and could be switched between. (Although, to this day I still can't find anything that shows where the third mic was.) The V30 has two mics and the RAM (Receiver As Mic) when the decibels get high enough. You don't get to control that last one, it just comes on when the volume of what you're recording hits an ear splitting level. So there's really only two mics recording the rest of the time.
Any time I've been out trying to record with the V20, the slider only made a minor difference. I'd still pick up ambient noise from behind me. So my second guess is that LG decided the slider wasn't doing enough to justify its inclusion this round. Reality is that there's a reason you run separate soundtrack recording from video if you're really doing sound sensitive recordings. (That's part of the reason you see that clapboard at the beginning of filming for movies and videos. It gives an audio and visual alignment point for mixing the two later.)
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The V30 does not have that slider. Not exactly sure why but the guess is due to the mic arrangement.
The V20 had three mics that were constant and could be switched between. (Although, to this day I still can't find anything that shows where the third mic was.) The V30 has two mics and the RAM (Receiver As Mic) when the decibels get high enough. You don't get to control that last one, it just comes on when the volume of what you're recording hits an ear splitting level. So there's really only two mics recording the rest of the time.
Any time I've been out trying to record with the V20, the slider only made a minor difference. I'd still pick up ambient noise from behind me. So my second guess is that LG decided the slider wasn't doing enough to justify its inclusion this round. Reality is that there's a reason you run separate soundtrack recording from video if you're really doing sound sensitive recordings. (That's part of the reason you see that clapboard at the beginning of filming for movies and videos. It gives an audio and visual alignment point for mixing the two later.)
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Thank you for your detailed answer! Have you tried that RAM solution in a noisy environment or have some link for an audio test? In fact I can't find much audio recording tests online for the V30 despite its growing popularity as if no one cares about it ...
Oh yeah, I definitely had it kick in on me Wednesday night. I was standing in front of a speaker stack at a concert. A message pops-up when you start recording and it senses you're in such an environment. You probably won't see many tests of the RAM as it takes something around 120 decibels to kick in. My left ear is still ringing from Wednesday night and yesterday I was dizzy.
That said, how does it sound? As long as what you're recording stays constant, it sounds pretty good. If there's changes, specifically loud to extremely loud, you hear a change that makes you realize it's just applying a simple filter to the audio. Which is to be expected. To pull off the miracle of having the sound keep a constant in such a situation would require a much larger recording operation than will fit in a phone. (My audio geek friends are still surprised at what control you can get with the V series.)
Once I know I can hear what I recorded the other night, I'll load some up to YouTube and link back on one of the threads here.
CHH2 said:
Oh yeah, I definitely had it kick in on me Wednesday night. I was standing in front of a speaker stack at a concert. A message pops-up when you start recording and it senses you're in such an environment. You probably won't see many tests of the RAM as it takes something around 120 decibels to kick in. My left ear is still ringing from Wednesday night and yesterday I was dizzy.
That said, how does it sound? As long as what you're recording stays constant, it sounds pretty good. If there's changes, specifically loud to extremely loud, you hear a change that makes you realize it's just applying a simple filter to the audio. Which is to be expected. To pull off the miracle of having the sound keep a constant in such a situation would require a much larger recording operation than will fit in a phone. (My audio geek friends are still surprised at what control you can get with the V series.)
Once I know I can hear what I recorded the other night, I'll load some up to YouTube and link back on one of the threads here.
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Eagerly awaiting to hear your recordings! Thank you so much!

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