So last week I kept receiving texts from AT&T on 10/26 ,asking me how was my replacement device and to make sure I return my old phone. I ignored them because , my pops was robbed at gun point on 10/20 and I was assuming that he used my line or something to replace his, since we're on a family plan together. But after talking to him and finding out that he went to the store and purchased another phone out of pocket, I finally go online and check my account and low and behold there was not just one, but TWO CLAIMS! One on 10/18 and then another one on 10/22, just four days later for a total of $398.00!
So after calling AT&T and Asurion insurance company for about three days and finding out that they shipped the phones to Fort Worth , Texas and Justin, Texas....WHEN I LIVE IN FORT LAUDERDALE ,FLORIDA! I finally got the charges reversed , me personally I do not see how you can approve of two claims within 4 days? And then today I get a call from a close friend of mine who also has a Note that he also received false claims on his account on the same two dates the 10/18 and 10/22 and both phones where shipped to somewhere in Texas too! So now we're both trying to figure out how in the hell did this happen, the only thing we have in common is we both run custom ROMS on our Notes FJ UCLF6 and I'm not in anyway saying that was or is the problem, but just that's the only thing we have that connects us.And he says that he never calls AT&T about his account from his phone, but I do.
All I can say is watch your accounts and make sure there's a extra password on your account!
Wow, I'm curious, dis you ever flash a rom with spen gestures?
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Wow, I'm curious, dis you ever flash a rom with spen gestures?
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I was on BlackStar, Pandroird and The Collective all within the last couple of weeks, but my friend has been on FJ's build only for months.
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I was on BlackStar, Pandroird and The Collective all within the last couple of weeks, but my friend has been on FJ's build only for months.
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Hmmn, 2 of the 4 had the gestures. Coincidence??? "the security risk was never proven." wonder if it had anything to do with it? How would they get an account number. Maybe from the att app?
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That's just plain strange...This needs to be looked into more ..Like dafox said..there was a security issue with a mod implemented in some roms that weren't suppose to be released!! The security issue would cause a hacker to take camera pictures anytime..And I'm sure alot more were not aware of...
Keep us posted!
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That's just plain strange...This needs to be looked into more ..Like dafox said..there was a security issue with a mod implemented in some roms that weren't suppose to be released!! The security issue would cause a hacker to take camera pictures anytime..And I'm sure alot more were not aware of...
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Yeah I will and I've gone back to complete factory in the mean time!
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Yeah I will and I've gone back to complete factory in the mean time!
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Question..When you called asking about the claims..Did you ask for the addresses were they were shipping the phones to? Since it was your account they should release the info as of where they shipped them exactly? once you get that adress you can call the local authorities there and talk to a detective regarding that?
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That's just plain strange...This needs to be looked into more ..Like dafox said..there was a security issue with a mod implemented in some roms that weren't suppose to be released!! The security issue would cause a hacker to take camera pictures anytime..And I'm sure alot more were not aware of...
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Do we know which mod/feature?
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Do we know which mod/feature?
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It was the spen gestures added to cm and pa roms
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It was the spen gestures added to cm and pa roms
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Cm has a safe spen feature now, it might have been the early release someone got a hold of
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It was the spen gestures added to cm and pa roms
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Is it safe to assume that code has been implemented by now into the PA tree and pushed out?
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Question..When you called asking about the claims..Did you ask for the addresses were they were shipping the phones to? Since it was your account they should release the info as of where they shipped them exactly? once you get that address you can call the local authorities there and talk to a detective regarding that?
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Once I told them that I didn't make the claims, they refused to tell me the address , just the city and state. They claim that they're going to blacklist the phones and they would handle the investigation as far as notifying the proper authority.
Probably an att employee. Internal theft happens all the time
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Probably an att employee. Internal theft happens all the time
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What would make you think its an inside job? Just because AT&T corporate headquarters is in Dallas and the fraud phones were shipped to a Fort Worth address?? I'm sure that's merely a co-incidence :angel:
BTW the gestures security issue was infact that screenshots could be taken without the users knowledge. I'm not saying that's what got your account hacked but it is possible.
The gesture security was really a minor issue. PA's dev left XDA because the issue was made to be alot bigger than what it really was.
In any case, inside job is definitely possible. AT&T may try to blacklist the phones, which I highly suspect that they can actually do, but these phones are unlocked and sold to Europe and Asia.
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What does this have to do with PA? The problem was also in Cyanogen.
And I don't see what any of this has to do with passwords, being hacked, etc... All paranoid conjecture.
Related
TELUS updated the OS Upgrade schedule,
ICS is coming LATE JULY.
Source:
http://www.telusmobility.com/pv_obj...ename/Device_OS_Upgrade_Schedule_June28th.pdf
There has been a slight delay in the submission of ICS for the Note by Samsung.
It is still expected for a commercial release in July
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TELUS updated the OS Upgrade schedule,
ICS is coming on July 13th.
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It's now Early "July"
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/common/pdfs/DOU_May31.pdf
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well this suck...
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chunsaa said:
well this suck...
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I actually thought it meant, "Our original ICS version had at least 1 major bug that we discovered when testing in real-world situations and we aren't going to release it until it is ready for everyone."
Of course, they could have also meant, "At least one of our 'content partners' (who are paying big bucks to get their advertisement disguised as an application inserted into our release) hasn't actually sent in their app yet and we aren't going to release it until it is monefied for everyone."
LOL im so surprised people are surprised by lack of updates from telus/rogers/bell
we may get most phones before the usa, but we pay for it with our carriers holding back updates
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LOL im so surprised people are surprised by lack of updates from telus/rogers/bell
we may get most phones before the usa, but we pay for it with our carriers holding back updates
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I've been on vacation and out of the country, did I miss the AT&T release of ICS for the i717 model Note?
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I've been on vacation and out of the country, did I miss the AT&T release of ICS for the i717 model Note?
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other then the fairly official firmware leak for i717 no, no OTA's, but who waits for OTA's anyways? only people that dont know about xda
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other then the fairly official firmware leak for i717 no, no OTA's, but who waits for OTA's anyways? only people that dont know about xda
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I'm waiting for official update from TELUS,
because I don't want to see any of AT&T's ****s on my phone, they're even in Wi-Fi settings..
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Jckpsa said:
I'm waiting for it from TELUS,
because I don't want to see any AT&T **** on my phone, they're even in Wi-Fi settings..
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who says you have to have or keep that stuff? root is there for a reason
throw on one of the highly debloated roms in the dev section based off LE2 leak.
or go one further and put one of the aosp based roms on there and be gone with all the ATT and Samsung bloat
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who says you have to have or keep that stuff? root is there for a reason
throw on one of the highly debloated roms in the dev section based off LE2 leak.
or go one further and put one of the aosp based roms on there and be gone with all the ATT and Samsung bloat
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I don't like AOSP ROMs, I was using OnlyOne HYFR B4, and it still has those AT&T things in Wi-Fi settings, and carrier name on the status bar.
Actually they were not big deal but it had some kind of bug, when I try installing an app from APK file, I can click "Cancel" but I can't click "Install".
So, I will be staying on rooted stock Gingerbread ROM with the holoNote kernel and wait for official ICS from TELUS.
Wow that's rediculous.....
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This kind of BS is why I almost got the Galaxy Nexus instead of the Note since Samsung is so ****ty at providing OS upgrades for anything that isn't a Nexus device (due to Google). Add the typical carrier delay on top of that..
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This kind of BS is why I almost got the Galaxy Nexus instead of the Note since Samsung is so ****ty at providing OS upgrades for anything that isn't a Nexus device (due to Google). Add the typical carrier delay on top of that..
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Gnex is no different from the note in Canada when it comes to updates
Telus/bell/rogers all have final say when the update is pushed
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Gnex is no different from the note in Canada when it comes to updates
Telus/bell/rogers all have final say when the update is pushed
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I'm confused. Gnex already came with ICS loaded in Canada??? That's what the sales rep at Rogers were telling me. She also said G Note is getting its ICS update in March.
So did she lie to me twice?
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I'm confused. Gnex already came with ICS loaded in Canada??? That's what the sales rep at Rogers were telling me. She also said G Note is getting its ICS update in March.
So did she lie to me twice?
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Gnex is ICS out of the box.
@JamieD81, we're in the same boat with bricked N7000's. I bought another N7000 with a cracked screen just for the motherboard, since the only place to get N7000's fixed is in Europe. Plus I went thru 3 mainboards on my I9000M. I still buy Sammie's crap, but I'm being a little more careful about flashing roms now. I'm waiting until the official rom is released, and played with enough before I throw my i717 on the line this time.
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Gnex is ICS out of the box.
@JamieD81, we're in the same boat with bricked N7000's. I bought another N7000 with a cracked screen just for the motherboard, since the only place to get N7000's fixed is in Europe. Plus I went thru 3 mainboards on my I9000M. I still buy Sammie's crap, but I'm being a little more careful about flashing roms now. I'm waiting until the official rom is released, and played with enough before I throw my i717 on the line this time.
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Yes its ics out of box but 4.0.2 to 4.0.3/4 took/taking longer then Google's branded gnex
And I can't find any damaged n7000's to salvage :-(
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Idk if this is good news but the note for t mobile I believe is coming out the 11th of July! Which means a kernel source, right?
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Oh well not the worst thing in the world at least we have leaks but maybe on the 12th we could see if the s2 X official ics modem will work with our phone for better hspa speeds as I'm sure allot of people on Telus don't have LTE available
Edit: S2X ICS was released today ahead of schedule before an ATT or T-Mobile release, so the future is looking friendly (<-- see what I did there)
They updated the schedule !
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So did she lie to me twice?
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Don't forget that a lot of xda-members know lot more about Android phone than the sales rep. Test them first hehe
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Gnex is ICS out of the box.
@JamieD81, we're in the same boat with bricked N7000's. I bought another N7000 with a cracked screen just for the motherboard, since the only place to get N7000's fixed is in Europe. Plus I went thru 3 mainboards on my I9000M. I still buy Sammie's crap, but I'm being a little more careful about flashing roms now. I'm waiting until the official rom is released, and played with enough before I throw my i717 on the line this time.
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Are you serious? There are so many places that fixes phones in Vancouver/Richmond for a decent price.
http://www.androidguys.com/2012/07/28/htc-rezound-getting-ics-tomorrow/
straight from android guys
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http://www.androidguys.com/2012/07/28/htc-rezound-getting-ics-tomorrow/
straight from android guys
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When Verizon confirms it on twitter, I'll believe it
Week of 7/24, way to pick a tuesday. HTC has said we will get it by the end of july as a soak test and then roll the rest out on august 3rdish, this upcoming friday. We will most likely see it this upcoming week or the week after barring any trouble verizon has.
EDIT: alos just saw android police post the same thing... http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...etting-its-ics-upgrade-as-early-as-july-29th/
who steals who's info I wonder
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Week of 7/24, way to pick a tuesday. HTC has said we will get it by the end of july as a soak test and then roll the rest out on august 3rdish, this upcoming friday. We will most likely see it this upcoming week or the week after barring any trouble verizon has.
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Link to this info??
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Link to this info??
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http://www.popherald.com/2012-07-26-news-article-id-3-19121
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http://www.popherald.com/2012-07-26-news-article-id-3-19121
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Thanks. It says well also get jelly bean
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...etting-its-ics-upgrade-as-early-as-july-29th/
More leakage says we may get it as early as tomorrow.
Edit: Derp, didn't know it was already posted. Delete.
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I dont actually have the phone its my wifes and i should have known something was up i tried to check for updates on it lastnight and it froze on the check for update screen never found updates after i had forgotten about it for a good 30mins to an hour it was still checking never found anything and it let me back out has that ever happened to anybody ?
I called VZW, they are retarded and have no idea about anything.
Reminds of the sign in the bar saying" Free Beer Tomorrow!"
S-Off Rocks! Who knows what Rom I'm on today!
Does anyone actually give a **** anymore?
our ICS roms are great... the RIL development and being able to use AOSP/AOKP/CM9-10 are the only things i give ****s about.
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I called VZW, they are retarded and have no idea about anything.
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why does it say "available for pull" on 6/1.... this is false.
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why does it say "available for pull" on 6/1.... this is false.
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Agreed. This just looks like the same chart that was "leaked" earlier this week, except for the release dates it just said "TBD". Someone probably shopped it then sent it to Android websites.
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Does anyone actually give a **** anymore?
our ICS roms are great... the RIL development and being able to use AOSP/AOKP/CM9-10 are the only things i give ****s about.
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Yes, once the OTA drops, kernel source isn't too far behind, and that's always good for development.
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Does anyone actually give a **** anymore?
our ICS roms are great... the RIL development and being able to use AOSP/AOKP/CM9-10 are the only things i give ****s about.
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Because people prefer OEM equipment and not betas nor any customization. Don't be ignorant.
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Does anyone actually give a **** anymore?
our ICS roms are great... the RIL development and being able to use AOSP/AOKP/CM9-10 are the only things i give ****s about.
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Yeah, we do. The ota means kernel source ..kernel source means custom kernels. Custom kernels mean better ROMs.
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Does anyone actually give a **** anymore?
our ICS roms are great... the RIL development and being able to use AOSP/AOKP/CM9-10 are the only things i give ****s about.
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I wish the mods would just make a rule about ICS update thread not being allowed any more.
Also ASOP is the future of our rezound and maybe Jellybean without the sense crap.
To me its funny about the constant complaint about sense but those who complain bought this phone. Hmmmm
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To me its funny about the constant complaint about sense but those who complain bought this phone. Hmmmm
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Most people bought the phone do to the specs and not sense, we know we can come here and get a sense-less rom.
So did anyone else get the Sprint message about getting their Photon to run faster, which suggested clearing the browser cache? - Bigger question is did anyone else notice that the Photon in the picture was running either ICS or JB!? It was, complete with the new rounded click/weather widgets and five icons along the bottom of the screen. Now if they'd only distribute and release the source, it would make the devs jobs easier, having ICS/JB drivers.
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So did anyone else get the Sprint message about getting their Photon to run faster, which suggested clearing the browser cache? - Bigger question is did anyone else notice that the Photon in the picture was running either ICS or JB!? It was, complete with the new rounded click/weather widgets and five icons along the bottom of the screen. Now if they'd only distribute and release the source, it would make the devs jobs easier, having ICS/JB drivers.
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Can u post some screenshot of this email?
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Can u post some screenshot of this email?
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Yeah posting the email would be great.
Just checked my sprint account, didn't get any such message
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Just checked my sprint account, didn't get any such message
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I got it too. I think it might be a photo of the photon Q?
I just uploaded this picture but I cannot post links. delete the spaces.
imgur . com/DAbTY
That's the Photon Q, look at the speaker grill at the top.
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I got it too. I think it might be a photo of the photon Q?
I just uploaded this picture but I cannot post links. delete the spaces.
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Yeah its a q. Way to go sprint....
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Yeah its a q. Way to go sprint....
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Watch. Next they are going to pass up the note
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XxCE0xX said:
Watch. Next they are going to pass up the note
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Dummies
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If they get a nokia wp8 device and/or new nexus, I couldn't care less about the note.
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If they get a nokia wp8 device and/or new nexus, I couldn't care less about the note.
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This^^^^^ and I would get the note2 tablet instead cuz I would use it for my classes
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Wow I read the first post and got all excited. O well time to keep waiting for ics
Well [email protected]! - I read the message and at a quick gander the very subtle differences don't stand out. Of course there's no reason the think those dip-sticks would use the picture of the wrong phone. I was all excited seeing the ICS/JB OS too.
Fingers crossed that new parent Google slaps some sense into Motorola and unlocks the boot loader and releases ICS or JB soon with source code. You know the expression about the chances being slim to none, well slim is on life support I guess.
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Wow I read the first post and got all excited. O well time to keep waiting for ics
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Need to wait for it, but when....
Stephenhon said:
Need to wait for it, but when....
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Yes that is the question. We know they said Q4 but hopefully it will be early in Q4 and not the end of Q4.
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Yes that is the question. We know they said Q4 but hopefully it will be early in Q4 and not the end of Q4.
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And is there anything whatsoever in your experience that would conceivably lead you to expect them to be as early as possible rather than as late as possible?
That, of course, leaves aside the question of whether there's anything in your experience that would lead you to expect them to honor this claim in the first place.
Ah ! Moto at it again. With Photon Q LTE out with JB, it is unlikely that we will now get an update to either ICS or JB, even though Google 'promised' to keep hardware refreshed for 18 months. We will most likely be extended an olive branch of $100 credit towards another 'Moto Phone' ... really Moto ?
This is my last Moto phone and likely last Android as well. I am ready to convert to Lumia 920.
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This is my last Moto phone and likely last Android as well. I am ready to convert to Lumia 920.
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Heard that! I too will be getting a Nokia wp8 device next. But I would still like to see ice for our phone as my upgrade isn't till July.
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Ah ! Moto at it again. With Photon Q LTE out with JB, it is unlikely that we will now get an update to either ICS or JB, even though Google 'promised' to keep hardware refreshed for 18 months. We will most likely be extended an olive branch of $100 credit towards another 'Moto Phone' ... really Moto ?
This is my last Moto phone and likely last Android as well. I am ready to convert to Lumia 920.
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Technically the 18 months is not over yet. It has only been close to 14 months since the release of the Photon 4G so Motorola could pull something out of its hat and possibly give us a JB update in early January 2013. All these hints about offering $100 for a future Moto device for any 2011 devices that don't receive the ICS upgrade is pretty telling to me.
Anyone get the update text just now
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Anyone get the update text just now
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I did on the 9th
No I just got another message a few minutes ago
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No I just got another message a few minutes ago
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So you received 2 separate text messages on 2 totally different dates? Did they both say the same thing?
AT&T Free Msg: The Samsung Galaxy Note upgrade to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean is now available! This OS update supports enhanced performance and user interface plus other device improvements. To download, open this link from your PC (not your phone) and follow the prompts: samsung.com/us/attgalaxynote/update
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So you received 2 separate text messages on 2 totally different dates? Did they both say the same thing?
AT&T Free Msg: The Samsung Galaxy Note upgrade to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean is now available! This OS update supports enhanced performance and user interface plus other device improvements. To download, open this link from your PC (not your phone) and follow the prompts: samsung.com/us/attgalaxynote/update
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Yea that's what it said. From what Samsung told me it was error on the carrier side. But did give a hint that multi view is on the way. Guess the petition did some good
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Yea that's what it said. From what Samsung told me it was error on the carrier side. But did give a hint that multi view is on the way. Guess the petition did some good
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Um, no, it just means AT&T sent the message twice..
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Um, no, it just means AT&T sent the message twice..
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Not gonna argue that. Just saying that Samsung said multi view update is not available yet. Do I believe them NO. But that's what's they said
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Not gonna argue that. Just saying that Samsung said multi view update is not available yet. Do I believe them NO. But that's what's they said
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If we see it, I think it'll be a positive sign that the carriers listen to the voices of users wanting (demanding) updates and similar featuresets to other models of the same handset (not stripped down) but I'd be really surprised if we ever see another official update out of AT&T for the Note.
We're under contract for two years, IMO we should get good support and reasonable updates for those two years.
I still think if carriers didn't screw with the updates so much, they could get them out faster and cheaper, but I doubt that'll happen
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If we see it, I think it'll be a positive sign that the carriers listen to the voices of users wanting (demanding) updates and similar featuresets to other models of the same handset (not stripped down) but I'd be really surprised if we ever see another official update out of AT&T for the Note.
We're under contract for two years, IMO we should get good support and reasonable updates for those two years.
I still think if carriers didn't screw with the updates so much, they could get them out faster and cheaper, but I doubt that'll happen
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I totally agree
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If we see it, I think it'll be a positive sign that the carriers listen to the voices of users wanting (demanding) updates and similar featuresets to other models of the same handset (not stripped down) but I'd be really surprised if we ever see another official update out of AT&T for the Note.
We're under contract for two years, IMO we should get good support and reasonable updates for those two years.
I still think if carriers didn't screw with the updates so much, they could get them out faster and cheaper, but I doubt that'll happen
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But what about all that content AT&T offers? How would we LIVE without it? /sarcasm
I totally agree, I wish Google enforced an osap release for every device with manufacturers so we'd have the option of vanilla or a manufacturer custom rom. Like that would ever happen lol
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But what about all that content AT&T offers? How would we LIVE without it? /sarcasm
I totally agree, I wish Google enforced an osap release for every device with manufacturers so we'd have the option of vanilla or a manufacturer custom rom. Like that would ever happen lol
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Well it just happen. Google galaxy s4
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Ltilt2 said:
Well it just happen. Google galaxy s4
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true but not exactly what I meant. What I mean is say Samung goes to release say the Note 3, they write an ASOP rom, and then another that has all of the touchwiz, multiple windows and other cool samsung apps. When the phone hits the carrier, it will inevitably be laced with AT&T bloatware, but we'd still have the original ASOP from sammy to choose from. Now I know in this model there's no way a company like Samsung could maintain 2 ROMs for every phone, but I think many of us would prefer to go without touchwiz for a clean experience and true customizability that Android was meant to be.
Really though, if Google went to more of a modular design instead of encoding the hardware drivers within a kernel that would be the end all of that. Yes I do understand that kernal compilation with the drivers provides a speedier system, but heck our phones are packing a dual core and it's just linux and linux is quick by nature.
Just my thoughts.
There's a leaked Samsung Android 4.4 schedule on the net and it points to January for the S4 and N3. Going by the title at the top of the screenshot/picture it's the international variant S4/N3. US will be even longer. I'm quite pissed about this as these are the flagship devices and should be upgraded MUCH sooner. Thoughts?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...xy-s-4-and-note-3-s-iii-and-note-ii-by-april/
Anybody complaining about non nexus devices not getting updates instantly have clearly not been paying attention the last 3 years. January is earlier than I would have predicted.
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Not sure how big of a deal KitKat really will be,...
I installed some of the newer files [Email, Calendar, QuickOffice] from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506623
To get some of the newer available apps, but moving to 4.4 washes away the hard work that Devs [Hashcode, beans, and Hyper] have already invested into 4.3.
I find Root and ROMs much more beneficial than the OS,....for now. De-bloating and customization is key!!
4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
ManOfBusiness said:
4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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That's not entirely true, it does bring host card emulation to allow NFC devices without a secure element to use Google Wallet.
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We're men here. We always want the latest and greatest no matter what!
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Doesn't 4.4 officially have like emojis integrated through the entire system? I could have sworn that's what I could have sworn I read. If it's true, that's enough for me to want the update :thumbup:
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4.4 also allows you to record what your screen is doing natively. That is actually pretty awesome for helping give instructions on how to install etc.
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Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
shiftr182 said:
Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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We are trying to get Eclipse for our Note 3. He has aosp features added into the TW. There's a thread in general section if you are interested should check it out.
Harleydroid said:
We are trying to get Eclipse for our Note 3. He has aosp features added into the TW. There's a thread in general section if you are interested should check it out.
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Still isn't the same as having a bootloader bypass or unlock to truly run aosp.. heck we'd already be on kit kat if we had this that's where i will donate my funds to.
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Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Just flashed CM11 4.4 on my N2
kwkw480 said:
Still isn't the same as having a bootloader bypass or unlock to truly run aosp.. heck we'd already be on kit kat if we had this that's where i will donate my funds to.
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Oh I agree it's not the same.
shiftr182 said:
Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Never buy a locked device expecting aosp. Always assume a locked bootloader will remain that way.
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ManOfBusiness said:
4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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Are you kidding? ART is potentially huge. I'd rather Samsung skip over 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 for this reason.
akellar said:
Never buy a locked device expecting aosp. Always assume a locked bootloader will remain that way.
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I really had to think about it when I chose to get the Note 3, but I figure the features on this phone are pretty amazing, and the way its looking is that phones will mostly be locked in the future. ATT is locking theirs, Verizon is locking theirs, Im sure the rest will follow. If two out of the four major US carriers are doing this, there is a good chance that someone will find a way around it. For the time being, we have Hashcode who has found away around the lock for the most part. We just need to get something like Loki or KEXEC working.
My other option was to keep a phone that has outdated resolution, software and hardware..... I had the Note 2 for a year and was ready to move on.
mi7chy said:
Are you kidding? ART is potentially huge. I'd rather Samsung skip over 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 for this reason.
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That's going to be hard to do since we're already on 4.3
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akellar said:
That's going to be hard to do since we're already on 4.3
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That part was for my Note 2. :cyclops:
We have no one to blame but ourselves. We accept the fact that the US carriers bend us over the barrel and do what they want to us. We accept it everyday by using their services, paying their crazy stupid prices and by accepting their restrictive contracts. Anyone who expects a US Wireless Carrier to offer an update let alone a Samsung update within a reasonable time frame is simply crazy.
The only reason the HTC One is getting it so fast is . . . well they don't have many phones to actually update or are worth updating so they have to keep pushing updates out to stay relevant. Of course the HTC one didn't get 4.2.2 we got stuck with 4.1.2 until we got 4.3. Of course I gave up on my HTC One long ago.
bajasur said:
4.4 also allows you to record what your screen is doing natively. That is actually pretty awesome for helping give instructions on how to install etc.
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Screen recording requires a PC attachment.