There's a leaked Samsung Android 4.4 schedule on the net and it points to January for the S4 and N3. Going by the title at the top of the screenshot/picture it's the international variant S4/N3. US will be even longer. I'm quite pissed about this as these are the flagship devices and should be upgraded MUCH sooner. Thoughts?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...xy-s-4-and-note-3-s-iii-and-note-ii-by-april/
Anybody complaining about non nexus devices not getting updates instantly have clearly not been paying attention the last 3 years. January is earlier than I would have predicted.
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Not sure how big of a deal KitKat really will be,...
I installed some of the newer files [Email, Calendar, QuickOffice] from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506623
To get some of the newer available apps, but moving to 4.4 washes away the hard work that Devs [Hashcode, beans, and Hyper] have already invested into 4.3.
I find Root and ROMs much more beneficial than the OS,....for now. De-bloating and customization is key!!
4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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That's not entirely true, it does bring host card emulation to allow NFC devices without a secure element to use Google Wallet.
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We're men here. We always want the latest and greatest no matter what!
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Doesn't 4.4 officially have like emojis integrated through the entire system? I could have sworn that's what I could have sworn I read. If it's true, that's enough for me to want the update :thumbup:
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4.4 also allows you to record what your screen is doing natively. That is actually pretty awesome for helping give instructions on how to install etc.
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Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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We are trying to get Eclipse for our Note 3. He has aosp features added into the TW. There's a thread in general section if you are interested should check it out.
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We are trying to get Eclipse for our Note 3. He has aosp features added into the TW. There's a thread in general section if you are interested should check it out.
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Still isn't the same as having a bootloader bypass or unlock to truly run aosp.. heck we'd already be on kit kat if we had this that's where i will donate my funds to.
shiftr182 said:
Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Just flashed CM11 4.4 on my N2
kwkw480 said:
Still isn't the same as having a bootloader bypass or unlock to truly run aosp.. heck we'd already be on kit kat if we had this that's where i will donate my funds to.
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Oh I agree it's not the same.
shiftr182 said:
Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Never buy a locked device expecting aosp. Always assume a locked bootloader will remain that way.
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4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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Are you kidding? ART is potentially huge. I'd rather Samsung skip over 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 for this reason.
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Never buy a locked device expecting aosp. Always assume a locked bootloader will remain that way.
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I really had to think about it when I chose to get the Note 3, but I figure the features on this phone are pretty amazing, and the way its looking is that phones will mostly be locked in the future. ATT is locking theirs, Verizon is locking theirs, Im sure the rest will follow. If two out of the four major US carriers are doing this, there is a good chance that someone will find a way around it. For the time being, we have Hashcode who has found away around the lock for the most part. We just need to get something like Loki or KEXEC working.
My other option was to keep a phone that has outdated resolution, software and hardware..... I had the Note 2 for a year and was ready to move on.
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Are you kidding? ART is potentially huge. I'd rather Samsung skip over 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 for this reason.
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That's going to be hard to do since we're already on 4.3
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That's going to be hard to do since we're already on 4.3
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That part was for my Note 2. :cyclops:
We have no one to blame but ourselves. We accept the fact that the US carriers bend us over the barrel and do what they want to us. We accept it everyday by using their services, paying their crazy stupid prices and by accepting their restrictive contracts. Anyone who expects a US Wireless Carrier to offer an update let alone a Samsung update within a reasonable time frame is simply crazy.
The only reason the HTC One is getting it so fast is . . . well they don't have many phones to actually update or are worth updating so they have to keep pushing updates out to stay relevant. Of course the HTC one didn't get 4.2.2 we got stuck with 4.1.2 until we got 4.3. Of course I gave up on my HTC One long ago.
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4.4 also allows you to record what your screen is doing natively. That is actually pretty awesome for helping give instructions on how to install etc.
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Screen recording requires a PC attachment.
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Anyone get the update text just now
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Anyone get the update text just now
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I did on the 9th
No I just got another message a few minutes ago
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No I just got another message a few minutes ago
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So you received 2 separate text messages on 2 totally different dates? Did they both say the same thing?
AT&T Free Msg: The Samsung Galaxy Note upgrade to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean is now available! This OS update supports enhanced performance and user interface plus other device improvements. To download, open this link from your PC (not your phone) and follow the prompts: samsung.com/us/attgalaxynote/update
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So you received 2 separate text messages on 2 totally different dates? Did they both say the same thing?
AT&T Free Msg: The Samsung Galaxy Note upgrade to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean is now available! This OS update supports enhanced performance and user interface plus other device improvements. To download, open this link from your PC (not your phone) and follow the prompts: samsung.com/us/attgalaxynote/update
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Yea that's what it said. From what Samsung told me it was error on the carrier side. But did give a hint that multi view is on the way. Guess the petition did some good
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Yea that's what it said. From what Samsung told me it was error on the carrier side. But did give a hint that multi view is on the way. Guess the petition did some good
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Um, no, it just means AT&T sent the message twice..
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Um, no, it just means AT&T sent the message twice..
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Not gonna argue that. Just saying that Samsung said multi view update is not available yet. Do I believe them NO. But that's what's they said
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Not gonna argue that. Just saying that Samsung said multi view update is not available yet. Do I believe them NO. But that's what's they said
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If we see it, I think it'll be a positive sign that the carriers listen to the voices of users wanting (demanding) updates and similar featuresets to other models of the same handset (not stripped down) but I'd be really surprised if we ever see another official update out of AT&T for the Note.
We're under contract for two years, IMO we should get good support and reasonable updates for those two years.
I still think if carriers didn't screw with the updates so much, they could get them out faster and cheaper, but I doubt that'll happen
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If we see it, I think it'll be a positive sign that the carriers listen to the voices of users wanting (demanding) updates and similar featuresets to other models of the same handset (not stripped down) but I'd be really surprised if we ever see another official update out of AT&T for the Note.
We're under contract for two years, IMO we should get good support and reasonable updates for those two years.
I still think if carriers didn't screw with the updates so much, they could get them out faster and cheaper, but I doubt that'll happen
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I totally agree
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khaytsus said:
If we see it, I think it'll be a positive sign that the carriers listen to the voices of users wanting (demanding) updates and similar featuresets to other models of the same handset (not stripped down) but I'd be really surprised if we ever see another official update out of AT&T for the Note.
We're under contract for two years, IMO we should get good support and reasonable updates for those two years.
I still think if carriers didn't screw with the updates so much, they could get them out faster and cheaper, but I doubt that'll happen
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But what about all that content AT&T offers? How would we LIVE without it? /sarcasm
I totally agree, I wish Google enforced an osap release for every device with manufacturers so we'd have the option of vanilla or a manufacturer custom rom. Like that would ever happen lol
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But what about all that content AT&T offers? How would we LIVE without it? /sarcasm
I totally agree, I wish Google enforced an osap release for every device with manufacturers so we'd have the option of vanilla or a manufacturer custom rom. Like that would ever happen lol
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Well it just happen. Google galaxy s4
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Well it just happen. Google galaxy s4
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true but not exactly what I meant. What I mean is say Samung goes to release say the Note 3, they write an ASOP rom, and then another that has all of the touchwiz, multiple windows and other cool samsung apps. When the phone hits the carrier, it will inevitably be laced with AT&T bloatware, but we'd still have the original ASOP from sammy to choose from. Now I know in this model there's no way a company like Samsung could maintain 2 ROMs for every phone, but I think many of us would prefer to go without touchwiz for a clean experience and true customizability that Android was meant to be.
Really though, if Google went to more of a modular design instead of encoding the hardware drivers within a kernel that would be the end all of that. Yes I do understand that kernal compilation with the drivers provides a speedier system, but heck our phones are packing a dual core and it's just linux and linux is quick by nature.
Just my thoughts.
I'm beginning to lose hope that the bootloader is going to be unlocked. Not because the devs here aren't fantastic - they are undoubtedly incredible. But based on my prior experiences with locked phones, this one seems to be unusually challenging. So what do folks think the odds are at this point?
PS: Forgive me if this belongs in another thread but I figured it's less about the process or the bounty and more about likelihood....
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I'm not holding my breath. But it's reasonable that something may be found along the way by accident or by leak..
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the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
I would prefer a One Max IF you can unlock the bootloader on HTC's site.
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
brandonhatty said:
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
flyinj54 said:
I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
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How long you going to give it? I'm sure as soon as I trade back they will crack it!
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I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I came from the note 2, development for the note 2 is not as active as the s4 but there is development.
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I currently plan on getting the note 3. Not stopping using the gs4, just having the ability to go big when I feel like it. :good:
That and to try to start some projects for it. Always fun to have projects!
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andybones said:
the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
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Wasn't the HTC DNA blocked from being unlocked after a vzw update? If the one is unlockable then I'd gladly switch.
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The odds are the same as finding a way to install a rom on the me7 update
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pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
CC268 said:
pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
CC268 said:
pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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samsung develeoper phones, htc unlock.
theres future rooting..
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Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
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He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
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He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
I think it is going to be the only solution going forward. I don't see any of the manufacturers or providers easing back on locking down these devices. If anything they will get tighter.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
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I am not totally sure, but I felt the CM team was indicating something in the way Google was implementing security and the code that really allows things to be done without the intrusion of root. I am not a developer and likely never would acquire the skills to be more than a guinea pig for them (don't mind) and I learned a lot from folks here especially with my HTC One DE which was a rockin device. I just wished AT&T service was better in my area and I could live with it. Some day I will likely try them again but I just can't do it right now. The big reason I did was to get unlocked phones, but given the sheer lack of LTE for US on the international phones its clear the OEM's are NOT making global phones on LTE today. It could be 10 years before we truly see global LTE phones.
Personalty, It's not about CM to me, I wasn't full access to my phone, if I have HTC I was S-OFF, if this phone I was the boot loader unlock.
Things take time and money, check the bounty, who knows for all I know they have a boot loader unlock and are waiting for it to hit $10G or some other number.
It's hard to say really. But I hope that Verizon still allows their HTC phone to at least get HTC -Dev unlock to allow custom recovery and ROM-Ming, and as for Samsung, if a Dev. edition is the only option, I will buy the phone for at Verizon (whatever one I can sell for the most on Swappa), sell it, make about enough money to buy the Dev. edition at only $200 after selling the device.
Just some ranting, sorry.
I was doing some reading and came across this interesting article. I hope our devs can UN dm-verify our stock kernel.
It may make rooting future devices much more difficult. I wonder what bug crawled up Google's butt.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-taking-aim-at-device-modders-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
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There always seems to be work around on every new version but this looks like bad news. Read the whole thing. Scary stuff for locked bootloaders.
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So do we get the pitchforks out and commence advance on LGs social media, etc? To get them to churn out an official build, of course.
It's a great phone and I bought it knowing they might not be quick on the draw. Didn't consider that 4.4 might make all these ROMs all for naught. Still, I needed a faster phone and this certainly fits the bill!
At same time I did know that short of a GSM Nexus that I couldn't have guarantee of latest Android.
I'm stuck on Verizon until March 2013. I can then slap a GSM Sim in, hopefully. But I paid retail so it's not like I want to buy a new phone anytime soon.
Well. I have myself to blame. Again. But I am off contract in March and this will never happen to me again!
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I am hopeful that when 4.4 comes out our devs will be able find a way for us to upgrade from 4.2 to a custom rooted 4.4 with out any issues. I do think that even stock unrooted this phone is fantastic it is carrier iq that is killing me. I'm sure att will put it in 4.4 also. Even though it was the carriers idea LG allows it to happen so I blame them also.
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Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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sacredsoul said:
Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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LG to my knowledge locks the bootloader on all its devices regardless of carrier.
This is troubling. The reason I chose the G2 was because it was the closest thing to the Nexus 5 on Verizon and had good developer support. Hopefully our fantastic developers will figure out a solution.
From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
I guess I'm selling the g2 for the nexus 5
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This is rubbish man..
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From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
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That's my take on it. It is built into the 4.4 kernel. I wonder if this had anything to do with Google buying Motorola in August. Lock the phones way down for the carriers.
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If there will not be a 4.4 rom within 3 months guess it is a dirty shot for those who bought it and want to buy it like me
Looks like I'll be rolling with Nexus devices from now on. I guess it was bound to happen though, I'm sure OEM's wanted another security layer because of bootloader work a rounds. On the upside though, there will be less threads on device release days asking for root and ROM ETA's!
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the funny thing even though android are opensource, the phones and hardware are not. Thats where improvement is. If you create an abstraction layer, where due to propriatary stuff its closed and updateable by vendor. Another layer, the OS can go on top, thusly eliminating hardware dependancy as well as increasing updatability. OS and security issues can then more easily be adressed, without the now unduable vendor involvement needed in integrating the new OS with all the hardware specifics. Given the entropy rate of new phones coming out, its undoable. This last, as wel as commercial reasons is why updates and fixes for security holes dont come fast. As of yet.
Right now we see the true devs juggling various devices as the rate of entropy in new devices is higher then more true devs coming in. Devices not even picket up by community cause there are no devs for it. The breaking point has come.
A new design must be made for this momentum, a new standard
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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hhhmmmm not enjoying reading this thread
brucipher said:
The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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right. as long as you can flash custom kernels all this stuff should not be a problem.
it's about time to build some kitkat
KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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I just uninstalled recovery and was about to unroot and return to store, you guys gave me the slap in face I needed. Going to keep my badass phone now, thanks, drinks on me.
Am I the only one that feels like the S4 has been partially abandoned by most devs [MK2]? Like AOSP is a dream we can say good bye to?
AOSP FOR MK2 IS THE MAIN POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION. STOP MENTIONING MDK
If you have an MDK S4 there are aosp ROMs available. If you aren't on MDK you're stuck with TW. I've actually seen a jump in the amount of developers in the past couple months.
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Am I the only one that feels like the S4 has been partially abandoned by most devs? Like AOSP is a dream we can say good bye to?
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not sure what you are saying...even with safestrap I have many ROMS to choose from
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Am I the only one that feels like the S4 has been partially abandoned by most devs? Like AOSP is a dream we can say good bye to?
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And also more Devs are making ROMs generic now... Like liquid smooth. Its one file for all s4's and it detects which carrier/boot loader your phone is and installed the propper files.
This opens up many more options for the future of mdk s4 at least.. Philz recovery also has this now too so more and more are starting to use this method
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Future reference, you should never buy a phone in which you don't like the stock software.
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not sure what you are saying...even with safestrap I have many ROMS to choose from
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None AOSP which is the biggest downer.
Mistertac said:
And also more Devs are making ROMs generic now... Like liquid smooth. Its one file for all s4's and it detects which carrier/boot loader your phone is and installed the propper files.
This opens up many more options for the future of mdk s4 at least.. Philz recovery also has this now too so more and more are starting to use this method
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Not talking about MDK, MDK is awesome and has CM and other aosp based roms, talking about MK2.
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Future reference, you should never buy a phone in which you don't like the stock software.
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Bought it w/ MDK software. Only bought it because of the exploit.
Had to replace phone.
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None AOSP which is the biggest downer.
Not talking about MDK, MDK is awesome and has CM and other aosp based roms, talking about MK2.
Bought it w/ MDK software. Only bought it because of the exploit.
Had to replace phone.
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Yeah I remember you saying that before, but this is exactly the situation that can happen. I would've never bought a Samsung device if I didn't love Touchwiz. Sure I run AOSP a lot, I'm on Google Edition right now, but if something happened to this phone I would be perfectly content with stock Touchwiz.
If you're going to stick on Verizon, it seems Motorola is the only company coming out with AOSP phones on this network.
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Yeah I remember you saying that before, but this is exactly the situation that can happen. I would've never bought a Samsung device if I didn't love Touchwiz. Sure I run AOSP a lot, I'm on Google Edition right now, but if something happened to this phone I would be perfectly content with stock Touchwiz.
If you're going to stick on Verizon, it seems Motorola is the only company coming out with AOSP phones on this network.
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The Hardware was amazing at the time of my purchase. I couldn't resist. Yay A year an a half more of Touchwiz... Goodie.
ericerk said:
The Hardware was amazing at the time of my purchase. I couldn't resist. Yay A year an a half more of Touchwiz... Goodie.
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You can always sell the phone and buy another on Swappa
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You can always sell the phone and buy another on Swappa
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They're selling for less than I purchased it on contract. Which is also a bummer. Honestly If there was some for of aosp like GPe port or a kexec method I'd really love this phone. I'm currently running foxes w/ a holo(yolo) theme which is the only reason I haven't chucked it out of a third story window.
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They're selling for less than I purchased it on contract. Which is also a bummer. Honestly If there was some for of aosp like GPe port or a kexec method I'd really love this phone. I'm currently running foxes w/ a holo(yolo) theme which is the only reason I haven't chucked it out of a third story window.
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Yeah like I said foxhounds is as close as you're going to get for the time being. And they're going for 300-500 depending on accessories etc. Which would still cover a Moto X, maybe a Maxx if you're lucky.
Just trying to help lol I know a lot of people hate TW I don't blame you.
It's funny how passionate we are about the look of or phone software when 99% of people could give a fuc.k
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joshm.1219 said:
Yeah like I said foxhounds is as close as you're going to get for the time being. And they're going for 300-500 depending on accessories etc. Which would still cover a Moto X, maybe a Maxx if you're lucky.
Just trying to help lol I know a lot of people hate TW I don't blame you.
It's funny how passionate we are about the look of or phone software when 99% of people could give a fuc.k
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It really is... But I really do wish that it would be up to us to choose.
ericerk said:
It really is... But I really do wish that it would be up to us to choose.
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Hey I know what your saying I felt the same way when I had the locked down one... The money part is a bummer but after I bought this mdk one and sold my other s4 I think in total I spent only $100 out of pocket so I could deal with that... Check it out.. may work for you too
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Mistertac said:
Hey I know what your saying I felt the same way when I had the locked down one... The money part is a bummer but after I bought this mdk one and sold my other s4 I think in total I spent only $100 out of pocket so I could deal with that... Check it out.. may work for you too
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That's a concept, but why put in more money for something w/ 100% no warranty?
Just buy something off contract, like that moto x or a G2
HOPE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
There seems to be hope.
ericerk said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
There seems to be hope.
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The last thing that remains in Pandora's box.
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Surge1223 said:
The last thing that remains in Pandora's box.
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Indeed indeed. I'm hoping that you guys will be successful.
If only bypassing the whole locked os was possible and just booting from an SD card (like the HD2), or kinda like what they did on the touchpad.
Just re-write the whole system. Seems like that would be just as easy.
ericerk said:
Indeed indeed. I'm hoping that you guys will be successful.
If only bypassing the whole locked os was possible and just booting from an SD card (like the HD2), or kinda like what they did on the touchpad.
Just re-write the whole system. Seems like that would be just as easy.
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If anyone is going to figure it out.. It's the people working together in that thread. It is a shame Verizon is such a pain in the asssss lol. My other s4 on sprint (granted its crappy sprint service) is nice an easy. Root it..use whatever form you want for a recovery and you're good to go....
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ericerk said:
Indeed indeed. I'm hoping that you guys will be successful.
If only bypassing the whole locked os was possible and just booting from an SD card (like the HD2), or kinda like what they did on the touchpad.
Just re-write the whole system. Seems like that would be just as easy.
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Unfortunately I cant find the right resistor to short to start the boot from SD process, though im still looking. The boot from SD is being tested on the note 3 today by some others so we'll see how that goes and go from there I guess.
I wish Samsung was as helpful as HP was with the touchpad, well that and a device was found with android already on it to help jumpstart that process.
With KitKat incoming, everything is being pushed into hyperdrive. http://m.cnet.com/news/samsung-updates-galaxy-s4-note-3-with-android-kitkat/57619025
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im still waiting for a miui port
Like I said in the question, when do we think we get the update?
A. within a week
B. within two weeks
C. within a month
D. within 3 months
E. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably as long as it takes verizon to put all there bloat in it and chains and shackles to make sure it stays locked down so we can't root it or anything
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qudwis said:
Like I said in the question, when do we think we get the update?
A. within a week
B. within two weeks
C. within a month
D. within 3 months
E. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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VERIZON is holding on to the update cuz they think giving us kitkat will cannibalize sales of the S5
so i say give it a week to a month after the S5 is on sale as for me im thinking of getting rid of my S4 not like im on verizon's network any more might as well get an international model or an s5 -_- annoyed i love this phone
DjSkreem said:
VERIZON is holding on to the update cuz they think giving us kitkat will cannibalize sales of the S5
so i say give it a week to a month after the S5 is on sale as for me im thinking of getting rid of my S4 not like im on verizon's network any more might as well get an international model or an s5 -_- annoyed i love this phone
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You sure about that? I would say 90% of Verizon customers don't know what 4.4.2 Android means.
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joshm.1219 said:
You sure about that? I would say 90% of Verizon customers don't know what 4.4.2 Android means.
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thats what i read on the verizon forums alot of people want their kitkat updates lol its believable if you ask me
cuz every one else got their kitkat update
I think once Samsung/Verizon are done with it, Kitkat on the non-MDK S4 will look more like Gingerbread than real Kitkat anyways.
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VERIZON is holding on to the update cuz they think giving us kitkat will cannibalize sales of the S5
so i say give it a week to a month after the S5 is on sale as for me im thinking of getting rid of my S4 not like im on verizon's network any more might as well get an international model or an s5 -_- annoyed i love this phone
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joshm.1219 said:
You sure about that? I would say 90% of Verizon customers don't know what 4.4.2 Android means.
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DjSkreem said:
thats what i read on the verizon forums alot of people want their kitkat updates lol its believable if you ask me
cuz every one else got their kitkat update
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The people on all forums about the VZW S4 are a very small number of VZW users. Almost all people will not get a new phone until their current plan is up. Therefore the S5 coming out is irrelevant to when KitKat is released. The majority of people will update to KK when it's pushed and most have never heard of it, let alone care.
VZW taking longer also means Samsung has worked out some bugs in their initial releases. Bloatware doesn't have much to do with it, IMO, most apps are tweaked to work with new software fairly quick.
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The people on all forums about the VZW S4 are a very small number of VZW users. Almost all people will not get a new phone until their current plan is up. Therefore the S5 coming out is irrelevant to when KitKat is released. The majority of people will update to KK when it's pushed and most have never heard of it, let alone care.
VZW taking longer also means Samsung has worked out some bugs in their initial releases. Bloatware doesn't have much to do with it, IMO, most apps are tweaked to work with new software fairly quick.
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I agree.
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qudwis said:
Like I said in the question, when do we think we get the update?
A. within a week
B. within two weeks
C. within a month
D. within 3 months
E. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tomorrow.
Ask me again, tomorrow, and I'll tell you the same.
Its sad that this thread needs to exist. I am on the 4.4.2 GE ROM from Danvdh which is running great.
All I really want is the new modem file that goes with it.
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i guess your right but whats the hold back unless 4.3 and other had serious flaws or verizon is nit picking about buggs
what i wont mind waiting for is if they give us the GS5 touch whiz with out 4.4.2 rom lol make all other s4 owners sick lol
DjSkreem said:
i guess your right but whats the hold back unless 4.3 and other had serious flaws or verizon is nit picking about buggs
what i wont mind waiting for is if they give us the GS5 touch whiz with out 4.4.2 rom lol make all other s4 owners sick lol
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They should, Samsung should give the latest and greatest to the S4 and Note 3, they still are flagship phones.
fillyo said:
They should, Samsung should give the latest and greatest to the S4 and Note 3, they still are flagship phones.
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DjSkreem said:
i guess your right but whats the hold back unless 4.3 and other had serious flaws or verizon is nit picking about buggs
what i wont mind waiting for is if they give us the GS5 touch whiz with out 4.4.2 rom lol make all other s4 owners sick lol
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+1
We have Verizon.. So we have great service but have to deal with locked bootloaders and wait forever for OTA updates lol what can we do.. Maybe move over to TMobile?!
Probably what I'll end up doing eventually just to have an updated phone I actually want that can have a custom recovery.
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was in VZW yesterday (held a S5, kinda nice feeling) and asked as they tried to repair my S4. Dude seemed very tech savy until i pointed out VZW is last to get KK. he didnt even know when it'll b out.. Some "flagship" device right? makes me think they'll be pulling a dinc2 ICS move on us
This is getting annoying. 4.3 update fixed none of the issues or bugs really.... and then they make the flagship phone wait for kitkat.
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This is getting annoying. 4.3 update fixed none of the issues or bugs really.... and then they make the flagship phone wait for kitkat.
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VZW has been known to only care about the brand new phones. I had a HTC Droid Incredible 2 and at the time the Inc series was their flagship, but the Dinc2 was still 3g. ICS was getting put on everything and they had their lists out showing what would and wouldn't and our Dinc2's were on the confirmed list just never received nothing . VZW passed blame to HTC and of course HTC passed it right back to VZW. Then about 6 months or so later or so VZW comes out and says our old flagship isnt gettin ICS at all, stated communication errors with just that phone. Wouldnt even release source for it. Now if it was the 4g model, which was the Incredible S, we would've had ICS and source. I dont trust VZW as far as updates and they'll probably state same excuse and offer us a discounted S5 or a free upgrade to switch our plan totally and for us to pay more in about 4 months. If KK drops just be amazed if we get passed 4.4.2. this phone probably wont see 4.4.3
swieder711 said:
Its sad that this thread needs to exist. I am on the 4.4.2 GE ROM from Danvdh which is running great.
All I really want is the new modem file that goes with it.
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I, for whatever reason, had very bad luck with data on GE. It forced me back to AOSP 4.3.
Some of us still want a vzw branded KK.
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