So apparently verizon has somehow modified the stock hotspot mode to try and contact them first for approval, hence products like Wi-Fi tether and Open Garden. However I really dislike the interface and feel of these apps, and their widgets are ugly. I have a nice beautiful theme going on and then SPLAT, some ugly out of proportion tether widget ruining the whole look. I'd really like to be able to get the native hotspot mode functioning. Does anybody know a way to do this? Or does it just have to be hacked by the dev's somehow to get a working apk or whatever that doesnt phone home to verizon for approval?
The Hotspot app that comes in a Verizon rom, is a paid feature.
The only way to have that app functioning, is to pay Verizon for the service.
I don't think there are many if any devs, willing to hack or modify that application to be used without paying for the service.
There are many ways to tether without devs doing anything illegal or unethical.
Just thought I would point out why you won't find that app working without paying for it.
Oh I understand how it works, I just remember in the early Sense leaks that team bamf or whoever had provided a working stock hotspot that didnt phone home to verizon for permission every time. Guess they abandoned that and just let people download wifi tether and such. I just always found the stock hotspot to be infinitely better than any 3rd party app. Aside from having a cleaner interface and functioning properly with the kernel/hardware, it was MUCH faster than other aps. I could easily get 15-20mbps with stock hotspot, now I'm lucky to get 2mbps with wifi tether.
RunNgun42 said:
Oh I understand how it works, I just remember in the early Sense leaks that team bamf or whoever had provided a working stock hotspot that didnt phone home to verizon for permission every time. Guess they abandoned that and just let people download wifi tether and such. I just always found the stock hotspot to be infinitely better than any 3rd party app. Aside from having a cleaner interface and functioning properly with the kernel/hardware, it was MUCH faster than other aps. I could easily get 15-20mbps with stock hotspot, now I'm lucky to get 2mbps with wifi tether.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All I know is that the built-in tethering feature works on the AOSP ICS ROM I'm running, and works well. I know what you mean about it being a simple, clean design, but what I miss is the ability to see who's connected and how much data you use.
Related
Right now I'm on BAMF Sense 3.0 Gingerbread using MR2 radio (MR1 had no service) and every time I hook up USB and hit "Share internet with PC", I drop 3G and 4G and don't even get 1x. It's irritating.
And when I use Wifi Hotspot built in application, I get very very shaky consistency. If the screen turns off, 4G drops. After 10-15 seconds, 4G resets.
One of the primary reasons I traded my iPhone for a Thunderbolt was to bypass the need for a cable modem but I'm having no such luck.
Can anyone recommend a rom that has 100% stability with tethering? I'd prefer Wifi tethering but I'll settle for USB tethering as long as it works as well as it did on any other HTC Android phone I've used.
And yes, I've tried Barnacle and no, I do not like it.
Try Wifi Tether.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
I love it and it works fantastic for me.
I just found Wireless Tether and I'm giving it a shot. Aside from tethering issues, BAMF 3.0 is a great rom so I'd hate to move away from it.
I'm surprised Verizon found a way to block Wireless Tether from Market. They sure are getting ahead in their game! So far I haven't had any drops! *knocks wood*
It's funny that some rooted app on market is better at tethering than Verizon's own hotspot feature. You'd think if they want people to pay for it, the least they can do is make their app the best for it.
I always find apps created by independent programmers seem to be the best anyway. The features of Wifi-Tether are awesome too, you can change the SSID, enable encryption, and manually enable or disable devices from connecting to your hotspot. Cant beat all that for functionality.
i use SYNERGY 3.0 latest nighty with the wireless tether app and dont' have your issues. as far as i know, this is the only GB rom that doesn't have this problem. all froyo roms worked perfectly for me. with the stock kernel it came with and mr2 radio.
WiFi Tether for the win. I used it just yesterday to DL a 500mb disc img.
CM7's USB Tethering works great for me.
Beastclaw said:
I always find apps created by independent programmers seem to be the best anyway. The features of Wifi-Tether are awesome too, you can change the SSID, enable encryption, and manually enable or disable devices from connecting to your hotspot. Cant beat all that for functionality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 to that. Running BAMF 3.0 RC4 MR2.5. Using wifi tether. works great. If you cant find the wifi tether on the market, just put your phone in airplane mode and use wifi to connect then go back to market and search wifi tether for root.
I am using this version of WiFi Tether ... http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...tail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-beta1.apk&can=2&q=
I have found in order to get a stable connection, if you go into Settings and scroll down under the LAN option ... there will be a checkbox for Routing fix. Once I turned that on, my connection has be very stable.
Hope this works for you.
I'm using the AOKP rom for my Galaxy Nexus and using the native tethering (not verizon) built into that rom and also using a pre- build of the WiFi Tether app, I was able to tether to my TF201. The latest version of WiFi Tether does not work however, and i dont know why.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...ail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-pre113.apk&can=2&q=
that one might work, though the one i have is pre110, but i don't see that on the download list.
Look, there is a consistent theme here that has been pretty much established some days back now that explains why if works for you...
*your using a custom ROM and you have native tethering built in said ROM
So not sure it is worth a whole new thread over your success to be honest, I could have told you this would work.
I also have the Galaxy Nexus and, for whatever reason, I can't get either pre110 or pre113 to work (although pre110 worked for my Nook Color), but I can tell what does work (without a ROM that has the native tethering built in).
I got SwitchPro from the Market and am using its AndroidAP toggle as a widget on my GNex home page. Somehow, that SwitchPro toggle allows the native tethering to work without calling up the Verizon subscription page. I'm using it right now.
GirLuvsDroid said:
I also have the Galaxy Nexus and, for whatever reason, I can't get either pre110 or pre113 to work (although pre110 worked for my Nook Color), but I can tell what does work (without a ROM that has the native tethering built in).
I got SwitchPro from the Market and am using its AndroidAP toggle as a widget on my GNex home page. Somehow, that SwitchPro toggle allows the native tethering to work without calling up the Verizon subscription page. I'm using it right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice.... but again, something different than the big tethering issue blocking ad hocs networks for tethering via an APK. Not an apples to apples comparison to those of us NOT on a custom ROM and with no native tethering.
Lock-N-Load said:
Nice.... but again, something different than the big tethering issue blocking ad hocs networks for tethering via an APK. Not an apples to apples comparison to those of us NOT on a custom ROM and with no native tethering.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
did you ever hear back from the maker of the tether apps yet?
demandarin said:
did you ever hear back from the maker of the tether apps yet?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope
Sent a direct email to the Barnacle dev who helped with the TF101 ad hoc issue. Nothing back.
I did hear back from the member that helped get this fixed for the TF101 with the help of the Barnacle dev. He said he would help. I looped him into what I/we have tried and even sent him some info today about my latest test using some files from the Prime's HC system dump. Just not heard back so might be slow on that front to get movement. Back in my original thread I posted last nights test and failure and why I think it failed.
Now that my phone is rooted I want to know what AT&T junkware is safe to delete? I have Titanium Backup (not the Pro version) and it only allows me to delete stuff. I would like to get rid of the AT&T Navigator and anything else AT&T related but I don't want to get rid of anything that could cause conflicts.
Any tips would be appreciated.
If you remove any bloatware, you may not be able to apply any future OTA updates from AT&T. Keep that in mind.
The first one in my mind is Tethering Manager. With this removed, you will be able to tethering without paying for tethering plan. But keep in mind, AT&T can still catch you tethering.
The ones I'd keep are:
AT&T Hotspots --> this allows you to get free wi-fi access from AT&T wi-fi hotspots (it checks you account to make sure you are qualified with a Smartphone data plan).
Swype -> Best Android keyboard IMO.
AllShare-> DLNA client. Very useful for streaming from PCs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504766
foxbat121 said:
If you remove any bloatware, you may not be able to apply any future OTA updates from AT&T. Keep that in mind.
The first one in my mind is Tethering Manager. With this removed, you will be able to tethering without paying for tethering plan. But keep in mind, AT&T can still catch you tethering.
The ones I'd keep are:
AT&T Hotspots --> this allows you to get free wi-fi access from AT&T wi-fi hotspots (it checks you account to make sure you are qualified with a Smartphone data plan).
Swype -> Best Android keyboard IMO.
AllShare-> DLNA client. Very useful for streaming from PCs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually removed AT&T Hotspots because it constantly runs in the background and it's a waste of battery to me. Even if you FC it, it comes back after a little while. Also I've only been one place where there was an AT&T hotspot and it was slower than 3G, so that was pretty much useless
Things running at background all the time. It doesn't mean they waste battery. This app never showed up in my top battery usage chart.
3G in my area is pretty slow (100k to 800k). So the wi-fi hotspot sometimes is useful.
jpeg42 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504766
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I pretty much froze everything on this list that can be removed rather then removing it.
Im pretty sure it works the same way... that way if you make a mistake uninstalling something -- you don't have to re-flash a stock rom
So I came across this:
http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bi...i-tether-mobile-hotspot-on-your-droid-bionic/
Tried to do the same thing while running Scott's CleanROM GBE 1.7...the closest match is com.android.providers.settings (Settings Storage), which while it does contain settings.db, the file does not have a Settings entry. The closest I have come are lines in "secure" and "system"...there are multiple hotspot related items but nothing that seems as though it would have the same effect as the value edited in the tutorial.
Disclaimer: I am posting this in the interest of simple hacking, not necessarily bypassing a carrier's policy or business model. I am grandfathered in to unlimited data and I will, as long as I am able, exploit that fact on my LTE device, be it through "legitimate" means like Tether by ClockworkMod, Wireless Tether for Root Users (which I have as yet not been able to get to work properly), or by using some exploit in a Verizon-provided app. Anyone using any means to tether without paying for the service is solely responsible for any possible repercussions or consequences.
With that aside...anyone got any ideas?
Edit: I encourage whoever happens to come across this to try it on whatever ROM you're running. Post your results...maybe we'll come across something.
Just use WiFi Tether, it works the same and it's free.
I came from the Droid Bionic. When you use the Mobile Hotspot hack, the data you use from Mobile Hotspot app is recorded in a special category that is separate from your normal data.
Did I note that Wireless Tether isn't working properly? Perhaps it's because I'm on a Gingerbread ROM...I've read that Wireless Tether only works in infrastructure mode on ICS ROMs.
socal87 said:
Did I note that Wireless Tether isn't working properly? Perhaps it's because I'm on a Gingerbread ROM...I've read that Wireless Tether only works in infrastructure mode on ICS ROMs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Works for me. Use the newest beta.
It works on GB with the latest beta. Works perfectly on ICS and all my devices pick up the signal no problem.
wifi tether does not work in infrastructure mode on gingerbread. The kernel only allows ad-hoc network with wifi tether. On the ICS roms it works in infrastructure.
socal87 said:
So I came across this:
http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bi...i-tether-mobile-hotspot-on-your-droid-bionic/
Tried to do the same thing while running Scott's CleanROM GBE 1.7...the closest match is com.android.providers.settings (Settings Storage), which while it does contain settings.db, the file does not have a Settings entry. The closest I have come are lines in "secure" and "system"...there are multiple hotspot related items but nothing that seems as though it would have the same effect as the value edited in the tutorial.
Disclaimer: I am posting this in the interest of simple hacking, not necessarily bypassing a carrier's policy or business model. I am grandfathered in to unlimited data and I will, as long as I am able, exploit that fact on my LTE device, be it through "legitimate" means like Tether by ClockworkMod, Wireless Tether for Root Users (which I have as yet not been able to get to work properly), or by using some exploit in a Verizon-provided app. Anyone using any means to tether without paying for the service is solely responsible for any possible repercussions or consequences.
With that aside...anyone got any ideas?
Edit: I encourage whoever happens to come across this to try it on whatever ROM you're running. Post your results...maybe we'll come across something.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used to have a Bionic and used this hack successfully. However, I don't see this being possible on the Rezound. I believe the hack was possible because of the way Motorola designed their software. HTC is completely different.
I am very good at searching before I post questions, but I keep getting an error saying search is currently not available.
On my S3 there were ways to tether via WiFi and USB without being detected on my grandfathered in unlimited data play. Can anyone confirm that there is proven method via the LGOG. Ny phone is rooted, unlocked, custom kernel, snow rom, and various other mods.
If someone can confirm a working way of doing this, I will provide them with file hosting and subdomain on my server, with full ftp access... etc. Thanks!
Sent from my LG-E970 using xda premium
Also, let me know if this is in the wrong section
I used the native tethering on SnowJB fairly heavily without issue and as far as I can tell it was never detected.
I was rooted and running various ROMs on my Samsung Infuse a few months ago, and I got an email saying they would add the tethering service to my plan if I continued to use it.
A couple years ago I had a jailbroken iPhone and tethered a lot of data and never had an issue.
I have not yet tried on the LGOG in fear of getting a $40/month service automatically added to my bill.
Sorry I don't have an answer, just sharing my experience I've encountered while tethering.
Sent from my LG-E970 using xda app-developers app
Script said:
I am very good at searching before I post questions, but I keep getting an error saying search is currently not available.
On my S3 there were ways to tether via WiFi and USB without being detected on my grandfathered in unlimited data play. Can anyone confirm that there is proven method via the LGOG. Ny phone is rooted, unlocked, custom kernel, snow rom, and various other mods.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
avoiding detection would probably mean using a method that doesn't rewrite the TTL's on the outbound packets. I've used wifi-tether w/o issue as have many others, I'm sure. I suspect that wifi-tether doesn't preserve the TTL's, but people get away with it because the cost/benefit to carriers is to pick the top 1% of bandwidth users and examine their usage for good reason to stop them somehow, illegal tethering being a good convenient one.
I'm sorry I don't have a solution for you, as I've also searched for just such a thin and not found it. I am curious what others are doing for tethering on this device, though.
If used sparingly, you PROBABLY won't get caught. I used foxfi on my old phone on different occasions and never recieved any notifications about tethering.
jonasl (if you don't recognize the name, he is very good at what he does) had a post in the SnowJB thread a while back about fixing the tethering issues people were having. From what I understand of it, the tethering checks to see if AT&T customers have the entitlement to tether, but since this is a ported ROM, it isn't able to find out if you are entitled (the code doesn't exist to finish the check). His fix circumvents the check (which as he says "This will as a sideeffect also give you tethering even if you aren't paying for it").
I have implemented the fix in case I needed it, but have not had a need to tether since, so I can't vouch for it in that regard, I can say everything still works as expected.
jonasl's post
If you really want to avoid detection, you could run a socks proxy on your phone that forwards to another socks proxy on the internet. Then you need a way to use the socks proxy on your phone. On the client side it can be easy (web browsers have a socks proxy setting, and there are wrappers to socksify anything on your pc) or harder (if you're tethering a tablet or game console or something). Finally, you need a way to bring up both your wireless and mobile data connections at the same time - you could use wifi tether for this if you only need to tether wireless clients, or a more manual method if you need your phone to be a regular wifi client on your network.