Hey guys,
I thought it might be useful to collect some benchmarks about internal memory speed, to see if the problems are consistent through all devices.
I used "A1 SD Benchmark" to check speeds. Please enable "Use longer testing" in Settings to receive more accurate results.
Use this form to post your scores: (just quote to receive the correct BBCODE)
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Internal Memory:
Read:
Write:
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you can also attach scores from other parts (like RAM, sdcard, etc.) but i think internal memory is the most important. Furthermore, you might want to add a screenshot to prove that your scores aren't fake.
my speed is:
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Internal Memory:
Read: 17.78 MB/s
Write: 2.94 MB/s
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edit: could someone please correct my typo "benchmerks" to "benchmarks" in the thread title? thanks
Urool said:
edit: could someone please correct my typo "benchmerks" to "benchmarks" in the thread title? thanks
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ERMAHGERD! BERNCHMERKS!
Sorry, Couldn't resist
Urool said:
edit: could someone please correct my typo "benchmerks" to "benchmarks" in the thread title? thanks
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why cant you?
Dreamcarr said:
ERMAHGERD! BERNCHMERKS!
Sorry, Couldn't resist
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Beat me to it
Transformer Prime (AndroWok 1.3 JellyBean, Performance mode):
Read: 27 MiB/s
Write: 2.76 MiB/s
Just for comparison:
Samsung Galaxy S3 (quadcore version, Stock JB):
Read: 41 MiB/s
Write: 20 Mib/s
Samsung Galaxy S2 (SlimBean 2.9):
Read: 22.34 MiB/s
Write: 2.63 Mib/s (same speed as Prime)
Asus really screwed this up, they chose to use Flash memory which reads fast but writes very slow.
Curious why the write performance on the Galaxy S2 is so much better compared to the prime even with both having the same flash write speed. Maybe there can be improvements in software. Some ROMs I used on the Prime where significantly less laggying when writing to internal storage (Team EOS f.e.).
Have not tried on my tf201 yet... but here are scores from my samsung galaxy note 10.1
Regular test
Read: 47.23
Write: 20.46
Extra long testing
Read: 36.50
Write: 12.55
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TF201, JB, factory reset after update, stock ROM, locked, rooted
Read: 34 MB/s
Write: 14 MB/s
Seems to be on par with Galaxy Note 10.1 and only slightly worse than Galaxy S3 above.
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wow yours is quite high - I wonder why yours is so good ?
TF201, JB, factory reset after update, stock ROM, locked, not rooted
Internal Memory - 1st time
Read: 112.84 MB/s ?!
Write: 15.01 MB/s
Internal Memory - 2nd time
Read: 81.55 MB/s ?!
Write: 14.98MB/s
Internal Memory - 3nd time (went to settings and selected Use longer)
Read: 25.15 MB/s ?!
Write: 15.49 MB/s
Felisek said:
TF201, JB, factory reset after update, stock ROM, locked, rooted
Read: 34 MB/s
Write: 14 MB/s
Seems to be on par with Galaxy Note 10.1 and only slightly worse than Galaxy S3 above.
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Hey.. lets compare apples to apples...
Internal sd card read/write is 9/6 in the benchmark from the screenshot u uploaded. In galaxy note the same reading is 36.5/12.5
Internal memory in galaxy note is 40/14, which is 34/14 in the screenshot u uploaded for tf201.
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smrsxn said:
Hey.. lets compare apples to apples...
Internal sd card read/write is 9/6 in the benchmark from the screenshot u uploaded. In galaxy note the same reading is 36.5/12.5
Internal memory in galaxy note is 40/14, which is 34/14 in the screenshot u uploaded for tf201.
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This test is a bit confused. "Internal SD card" is in fact the microSD in my slot, while "External SD card" and "Internal memory" are the same (look at total/free size and measured speed: it's the same thing).
My TF201's internal memory test is about 34/14, as you pointed out. The test result you quoted for Galaxy Note is 37/13 - this is long testing. Short testing seems to be very inaccurate and rather random. So, we have Galaxy Note 37/13 and TF201 34/14. Very comparable results.
The weird thing is that my TF201 gives much faster read/write speeds (in particular write) than reported by Urool and Kashban above...
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This test is a bit confused. "Internal SD card" is in fact the microSD in my slot, while "External SD card" and "Internal memory" are the same (look at total/free size and measured speed: it's the same thing).
My TF201's internal memory test is about 34/14, as you pointed out. The test result you quoted for Galaxy Note is 37/13 - this is long testing. Short testing seems to be very inaccurate and rather random. So, we have Galaxy Note 37/13 and TF201 34/14. Very comparable results.
The weird thing is that my TF201 gives much faster read/write speeds (in particular write) than reported by Urool and Kashban above...
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Yes, all benchmarks I reported are with long testing on Samsung galaxy note 10.1.
I would have tested TF201 as well.. but I don't use it so much now.. I have hooked it upto my non-smart TV to play netflix via it. That's all I use my TF201 for, and it works mostly fine for that usage.
Regarding this benchmarking... I think
internal memory = RAM on device
internal SD Card = Staorage space on Device
RAM was always fine on TF201, it's the internal storage where ASUS fitted in class 2 SD cards is the real issue with TF201.
No matter what ROM you load, a class 2 SD card is a Class 2 SD card. will not get better speed.
Galaxy note 10.1 just shows what a real fast internal storage can do.. I/O speed is as important to end user experience as CPU speed...
Actually as a benchmark for the speed of the transformer prime this tool is about as useful as antutu which is to say not useful at all. This test obviously only measures Sequential read and Write scores which are not in the least what causes performance issues with the transformer prime. It is in the random read and write speeds and of those primarily the random write speed where the io bottleneck lives. The only benchmark I have seen that accurately depicts this failing is Androbench.
funny side note: mine just got picked up by UPS is getting reviewed by Asus customer Support (they told me to do so after sending them my benchmarks)
I'll report what they will come up with
report from Asus Repair Service:
"We have exchanged an (obviously) damaged USB-Cable and reset your device's BIOS".
lulz, let's see if it has helped ANYTHING.
Will be reporting.
Our synthetic benchmarks will undoubtedly reflect those benefits. The previous system's stock memory bandwidth was slightly higher.
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Hi there!
I've got four 8gb SDHC memory cards and can't really decide which one to put into my andorid phone (SGA). I'm planning on using it as a /data and maybe /cache too. I ran crystal disk mark and got results:
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Can you help me decide which one to use?
B by far. Although the read speads are about the same, the write speeds are significantly higher.
If only that was that simple..
I've read somewhere that 4k reads/writes are the most important for /data and /cache and those values are greatest in C and D...
B is not bad... High reading and Writing speed is what we want normally.
Found another one, so updated table:
Now it got easy. The best is 'E card', right?
WiCiO_MeDi said:
Found another one, so updated table:
Now it got easy. The best is 'E card', right?
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Those speed are great when tested with computer. But it is a completely different story in phone.
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WiCiO_MeDi said:
Found another one, so updated table:
Now it got easy. The best is 'E card', right?
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You could go with "E", but as melvinchng implied, do not expect the same results (of speed) on your device.
There is actually an app to increase the read speeds on your sd card as well. Most phones are "throttled" to a read speed, so class and read speed don't matter much. If you search the market for "sd card speed fix" you should find it. I use the app and the speed difference when I bring up my gallery is phenomenal.
Lowandbehold is right, but remember that different settings may or may not work as well on different devices (1024 and 2048 are the preferred/best values).
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Lowandbehold is right, but remember that different settings may or may not work as well on different devices (1024 and 2048 are the preferred/best values).
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True story...the preferred values do seem to work the best
I understand that there are some ways to "tune up" the performacne of sd card in the phone, but it's better to tune a faster card from the beginning, right?
So what's the verdict? Those cards are:
A - AData class 6 8gb
B - AData class 10 8gb
C - Noname class 6 8gb
D - Noname class 6 8gb
E - Sandisk Ultra class 6 4gb
Right now i'm using s2e to increase read buffer size to 2mb.
Or maybe there's a better benchmark than crystal disk?
WiCiO_MeDi said:
I understand that there are some ways to "tune up" the performacne of sd card in the phone, but it's better to tune a faster card from the beginning, right?
So what's the verdict? Those cards are:
A - AData class 6 8gb
B - AData class 10 8gb
C - Noname class 6 8gb
D - Noname class 6 8gb
E - Sandisk Ultra class 6 4gb
Right now i'm using s2e to increase read buffer size to 2mb.
Or maybe there's a better benchmark than crystal disk?
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Have you tried using class 10? The performance should be better.
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Right now I'm using class 10 card but I'm wondering if the sandisk ultra would be faster judging by the numbers from the crystal disk test..
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Right now I'm using class 10 card but I'm wondering if the sandisk ultra would be faster judging by the numbers from the crystal disk test..
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Yes, it would be faster.
WiCiO_MeDi said:
Right now I'm using class 10 card but I'm wondering if the sandisk ultra would be faster judging by the numbers from the crystal disk test..
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Try using "SD tools" to see how your SD works
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Try using "SD tools" to see how your SD works
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SD tools is giving me weird values..
for my 'B card' it measures 9mb/s for writing and 35-40mb/s for reading. Every time I start a new test it gives different reading values. So for me this app is useless
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SD tools is giving me weird values..
for my 'B card' it measures 9mb/s for writing and 35-40mb/s for reading. Every time I start a new test it gives different reading values. So for me this app is useless
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Try multiple test. Take average. 35-40mb reading is normal.
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Just curious to know how much is available Ram on 2GB models as:
1. How much originally available for use (1GB has 780MB for use)
2. Free RAM available in normal usage (1GB model usually has about 150~200mb out of available 780mb only). Even my LG O3D with 512mb has same amount of 150+mb available
And pls no comments on memory usage by linux is different or free ram is wasted ram blahblahblah we all know that but still free available RAM is always better.
My PC 4GB shows about 2.4GB available at hand and when i open Chrome with 50tabs at the same time it goes down to 200mb but i still feel no lag whatsoever. HOwever SIII seems to lag (launcher redraws) etc even with the latest updates.
My PC 4GB shows about 2.4GB available at hand and when i open Chrome with 50tabs at the same time it goes down to 200mb but i still feel no lag whatsoever
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Open Task Manager, go in the 'Performance' Tab, and click on 'Resource Monitor'.
Then select the 'Memory' tab and take a look at the 'Free' value.
With computers which have been bused for 1-2 hours, this value is usually far below 100MB, currently mine even shows 0MB free memory.
At the same time Task Manager speaks of roughly 1.5GB of free Memory.
You just contradicted yourself
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Open Task Manager, go in the 'Performance' Tab, and click on 'Resource Monitor'.
Then select the 'Memory' tab and take a look at the 'Free' value.
With computers which have been bused for 1-2 hours, this value is usually far below 100MB, currently mine even shows 0MB free memory.
At the same time Task Manager speaks of roughly 1.5GB of free Memory.
You just contradicted yourself
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How did i contradict myself? I said my memory drops down to few 100mbs when i open CHROME with 50 TABS... U know 50 PAGES full of text/pictures.. If i close chrome it goes up to 2.3GB out of 4GB (32bit os so only 3.xx gb is available).
My PC is on 24/7 and usually reboot once a week after windows update keep pestering me to restart.
So end of 7 days RAM is 2.3GB, plus Skype/MSN services, torrents, dropbox, antivirus, malaware, raptr, wifi, EPU Engine for Asus board plus tons of other software running. So why we can't have decent ram available on a much smaller footprint o/s ?
sak500 said:
Just curious to know how much is available Ram on 2GB models as:
1. How much originally available for use (1GB has 780MB for use)
2. Free RAM available in normal usage (1GB model usually has about 150~200mb out of available 780mb only). Even my LG O3D with 512mb has same amount of 150+mb available
And pls no comments on memory usage by linux is different or free ram is wasted ram blahblahblah we all know that but still free available RAM is always better.
My PC 4GB shows about 2.4GB available at hand and when i open Chrome with 50tabs at the same time it goes down to 200mb but i still feel no lag whatsoever. HOwever SIII seems to lag (launcher redraws) etc even with the latest updates.
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Available ram isn't always better. The launcher redraws because Samsung for whatever reason gave it low cache priority which hopefully will soon be fixed. A well managed cache will take ALL your ram whilst making the phone smooth as hell and the S3 isn't quite there with that yet. A cache speeds things up, but can be seemlessly removed from ram if a specific application actually needs the ram for itself. The Launcher priority is currently set so its one of the first items removed from the cache if an app needs it (Usually the browser as its ram heavy.) which shouldn't be the case, theres plenty of other apps which should be removed first.
dude as far as I know you can do most of the stuff on 1GB ram, I made a stupid mistake when I bought my PC I bought 32GB RAM lol can't even be able to use 20%
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With 32Gb of RAM you can completely disable the swap file for Windows. I've got 18Gb on my home PC and I've been running without a swap file.
U know 50 PAGES full of text/pictures.. If i close chrome it goes up to 2.3GB out of 4GB
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Have you even tried doing what I described?
Of course the system will not immediatly be able to fill up those Gigabytes of RAM with Disk Caching, but it eventually will.
My point is that ALL major operating systems fill up their RAM in an attempt to make the experience better. Linux is nothing special in that regard.
You also didn't comment on my suggestion to remove bloatware you do not need.
By the way, the S3's OS footprint is about 2GB, vs Windows XP 650MB.
Talk about small operating systems...
@Red Wolf: Holy moses, that's a lot of RAM. I've recently had to upgrade our family computer from 4GB to 16GB of RAM because my mom kept opening new Firefox tabs until the computer swapped to disk and then complained about it being so slow.
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Are you seriously trying to compare the performance of a PC to your phone? That's pretty funny.. I dont understand how the memory in your PC and how it is used and managed can be compared at all to an Android phone. phones are powerful but they are no way meant to be a desktop replacement.... yet anyway.
And about the blah blah blah, as much as you hate to hear it Linux DOES handle memory a LOT different than Winblows, that's just the truth.
Now the 2gb will have more free ram, and will probably be able to keep more apps in an open state than the international 1gb. but I seriously think 1gb on a phone will be fine for another year.
With custom rom around 1.3 Gb free
And I totally agree with graffixnyc.
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I want to have a new micro SD card ready to go when I pick up my V30+ next week. There are some decent deals for 128GB cards at BestBuy and Amazon. I have tried searching for the info but haven't had any luck finding the maximum read and write speeds the LG V30's micro SD slot is capable of.
Samsung EVO Plus 128GB - BestBuy
Samsung EVO Select 128GB - Amazon
They are essentially the exact same card, just different branding due to when they were manufactured. Same specs and all but the EVO Select seems to be the newer of the two where the EVO Plus has been around since 2015. If the V30's micro SD card slot isn't capable of 100MB's read and 90MB's write, then I may as well go for something cheaper and slightly slower and save $7.
SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB - BestBuy
Is anyone aware of what the maximum capabilities of the V30's micro SD slot is capable of? Is there a way to test this that someone wouldn't mind testing and posting their results?
jcsww said:
Is anyone aware of what the maximum capabilities of the V30's micro SD slot is capable of? Is there a way to test this that someone wouldn't mind testing and posting their results?
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Somebody did that a few weeks ago, I'll see if I can find the post.
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I was mistaken. It was the internal storage read/write speeds they tested.
V30 Internal storage speed?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/v30-internal-storage-speed-t3687990
They were trying to determine whether the LG V30/V30+ had UFS 2.0 or 2.1. It has UFS 2.1. (Earlier this year, Samsung shipped some S8 phones with both standards -- the Snapdragon S8 got 2.0 while the Exynos S8 got 2.1, while all chipset versions of the S8+ got 2.1.)
But several websites have done thorough reviews and have stated what's inside the V30/V30+, including exact components...
ChazzMatt said:
Both the LG V30 and V30+ have Toshiba UFS 2.1 (THGAF4G9N4LBAIRB) internal storage
LG's press release:
http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2017/08/l...ier-with-premium-cinematography-capabilities/
Memory:
V30: 4GB LPDDR4x RAM / 64GB UFS 2.1 ROM / MicroSD (up to 2TB)
V30+: 4GB LPDDR4x RAM / 128GB UFS 2.1 ROM / MicroSD (up to 2TB)
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Other sites even give the manufacturer and component number:
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/10/lg-v30-review-ultimate-creativity-tool.html
Inside is a Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 chipset with Adreno 540 GPU, 4GB of LPDDR4X ram and either 64GB or 128GB of Toshiba UFS 2.1 (THGAF4G9N4LBAIRB) internal storage, all with microSD card support for expandable storage.
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This 6-inch display features a Quad-HD+ (1440 x 2880, 538 PPI) resolution 18:9 panel with nearly zero bezels all around, and is covered in Gorilla Glass 5. It’s also both Dolby Vision and HDR10 compliant. Inside is a Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 chipset with Adreno 540 GPU, 4GB of LPDDR4X ram and either 64GB or 128GB of Toshiba UFS 2.1 (THGAF4G9N4LBAIRB) internal storage, all with microSD card support for expandable storage.
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As it’s pushing the same resolution screen as the G6 with a processor and GPU boost, it’s pretty obvious why the phone feels so blazing fast all the time. Combine this with Toshiba UFS 2.1 (THGAF4G9N4LBAIRB) storage and you’ll quickly understand that LG has outfitted the V30 with the highest end components available right now.
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Even the Toshiba UFS 2.1 storage inside is a perfect match for Samsung’s best UFS 2.1 storage, which is used in most flagships now, and averages out just as fast as those chips. See the results of the benchmark suite we run for each phone, including 3DMark Slingshot, GeekBench 4, AnTuTu V6 and Futuremark’s PCMark internal storage test.
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/11789/hands-on-with-the-lg-v30
Under the hood, the V30 is powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon 835, with LG using a heatpipe to assist in cooling. This is paired with 4 GB of LPDDR4X, and either 64GB or 128GB of UFS 2.1 storage.
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Just used the A1 SD card speed test app. LG V30 - Samsung 128GB Evo Select formatted as a 'removable' storage device - did the standard 4GB size write / read test twice without closing apps etc (so bit of a real life test) and once did reboot (waited 5 minutes before launching), ran the accurate test (does write, then reboot again with another 5 minute wait, then does read):
Test 1
Read - 64.01 MB/s
Write - 35.38 MB/s
Test 2
Read - 65.25 MB/s
Write - 33.13 MB/s
Test 3 (accurate test)
Read - 60.56 MB/s
Write - 37.63 MB/s
Based on other benchmarks I have seen for this SD card (~95 MB.s read and ~70 MB/s write), it does appear the V30 is not able to get full speed out of it.
And just for 'fun' here is what the internal memory was capable of in this app (only ran the 4GB test once):
Read - 524.87 MB/s
Write - 199.30 MB/s
I am wondering if even if it were stuck at the slower speeds, would this have any impact on the camera, video, music, etc? I am planning on using a 128G SD card also if I get this phone.
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Just used the A1 SD card speed test app. LG V30 - Samsung 128GB Evo Select formatted as a 'removable' storage device - did the standard 4GB size write / read test twice without closing apps etc (so bit of a real life test) and once did reboot (waited 5 minutes before launching), ran the accurate test (does write, then reboot again with another 5 minute wait, then does read):
Test 1
Read - 64.01 MB/s
Write - 35.38 MB/s
Test 2
Read - 65.25 MB/s
Write - 33.13 MB/s
Test 3 (accurate test)
Read - 60.56 MB/s
Write - 37.63 MB/s
Based on other benchmarks I have seen for this SD card (~95 MB.s read and ~70 MB/s write), it does appear the V30 is not able to get full speed out of it.
And just for 'fun' here is what the internal memory was capable of in this app (only ran the 4GB test once):
Read - 524.87 MB/s
Write - 199.30 MB/s
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Excellent! Thank you!
banshee28 said:
I am wondering if even if it were stuck at the slower speeds, would this have any impact on the camera, video, music, etc? I am planning on using a 128G SD card also if I get this phone.
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That should be enough to handle 4k and pictures being directly written to the micro SD card. You will want a card that is better than those speeds but there isn't any need to go for anything super expensive that are rated for super fast performance.
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While the measurement numbers are great info - I didn't need to run a test, I noticed as soon as I tried to play some PSone and PSP games. Any game with heavy disc access while trying to play (sports games especially, due to commentary) stuttered like I was running them off of an external USB hard drive. Move the game to internal storage and (obviously, from the benchmarks, above) no trouble at all.
This is disappointing, as I picked up this phone expressly due to its specs for playing games (It was on sale, and replaced my cheapie Blu phone). Not the end of the world; I can move games to internal that are particularly problematic, but rather annoying and ironic, as the games most affected are the ones taking up the most space, requiring the extra MicroSD storage...
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While the measurement numbers are great info - I didn't need to run a test, I noticed as soon as I tried to play some PSone and PSP games. Any game with heavy disc access while trying to play (sports games especially, due to commentary) stuttered like I was running them off of an external USB hard drive. Move the game to internal storage and (obviously, from the benchmarks, above) no trouble at all.
This is disappointing, as I picked up this phone expressly due to its specs for playing games (It was on sale, and replaced my cheapie Blu phone). Not the end of the world; I can move games to internal that are particularly problematic, but rather annoying and ironic, as the games most affected are the ones taking up the most space, requiring the extra MicroSD storage...
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Go AOSP/non-Stock, format microSD to ext4, flash custom kernel and see how it changes things,
write speed will be improved by 100% (so twice as fast), read speed approx. around 10-20% (or more) compared to exfat.
Also custom kernel got general speed improvements so that might make a difference - haven't tried running anything particularly heavy off the microSD though.
That particular thing is probably the reason why Android/Google doesn't recommend using microSDs - it can really degradate and mess with experience/fun at times
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Go AOSP/non-Stock, format microSD to ext4, flash custom kernel and see how it changes things,
write speed will be improved by 100% (so twice as fast), read speed approx. around 10-20% (or more) compared to exfat.
Also custom kernel got general speed improvements so that might make a difference - haven't tried running anything particularly heavy off the microSD though.
That particular thing is probably the reason why Android/Google doesn't recommend using microSDs - it can really degradate and mess with experience/fun at times
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Thank you for this info! I will definitely look into it - Although I just ran a few tests of my OLD phone, (A Blu Vivo 2(?) XL(?) - I forget), and it's read time from the micro Sd is atrocious, like 32 read and 24 write, and yet it plays PSone games just fine from the Micro SD - the SAME Micro SD that the LG V30 is stuttering on (and I've tried a drawer-full, now) - which leads me to believe it's some other type of bottleneck. After all, an actual PSone cd only reads form 150 to 300 KB (not MB) of data per second. Even with a single emulator emulating individual autonomous chips, there should be headroom, I would think, to keep things going.
... Aannnnd this moves me off-topic from this thread - So I'll stop right there.
I bought a new SanDisk extreme 128 GB V30 micro SD Card with read/write speeds of up to 160MB/s / 90MB/s.
But when I test the speed, it was limited to only about 30MB/s / 30MB/s or less. Tested on
1) A1 SD Bench
2) Disk Speed Test
3) CPDT: Storage and Memory Performance Benchmark
All is the same results. Is this normal for Xperia 1?
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I bought a new SanDisk extreme 128 GB V30 micro SD card with read/write speeds of up to 160MB/s / 90MB/s.
But when I test the speed, it was limited to only about 30MB/s / 30MB/s or less. Tested on
1) A1 SD Bench
2) Disk Speed Test
3) CPDT: Storage and Memory Performance Benchmark
All is the same results. Is this normal for Xperia 1?
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That's a good question. I have the Samsung Evo Select and only get around 30mb/s as well. Thought it was normal so I just ignored it.
This is true for all Xperia devices over many iterations. Not sure why but I live with it.
What? Haven't used Sdcard for a while as my previous phone does not support it. But wtf? Is it a limitation of the ROM or hardware related?
On the official website did not specify details about micro SD Card clearly so I think maybe Xperia 1 not support UHS-I.
But I found someone test Sony's micro SD Card (UHS-I , speeds of up to 95MB/s / 90MB/s.) on Xperia XZ Premium and it works.
Therefore, I tried to believe that this problem was caused by current firmware and expected to be resolved soon.
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On the official website did not specify details about micro SD Card clearly so I think maybe Xperia 1 not support UHS-I.
But I found someone test Sony's micro SD Card (UHS-I , speeds of up to 95MB/s / 90MB/s.) on Xperia XZ Premium and it works.
Therefore, I tried to believe that this problem was caused by current firmware and expected to be resolved soon.
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I'm afraid that the problem will never get solved. Here is the XZ2 running a lastest software 52.0.A.8.83. Several update got released but it still stuck at around 30 MB/s.
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Btw, It strange that devices from 2017 like XZP and XZ1 can be able to achieve a faster speed than the newer one.
Is there an impact of this speed limitation on 4k video recording?
30MB/s saga continues.
funny fact is the speed is slow also in 2021, with their models 1ii and 5ii. Some people even stuff up expensive UHS2 cards inside hoping for better speeds (thou there's no mobile supporting UHS2). The problem lies simply in the cheap reader (cost cut). On the other side, it's better than no SD card support nowadays...
it is best to do a manual test. for some reason the benchmark app doesn't exploit the maximum speed of the micro sd. In A1 benchmark I have 5mb / s in writing and 60 mb / s in reading, 5mb / s is insufficient for the 4k recording however I do not encounter any problem at this level and when I make a manual copy I have peaks at 65 mb / s much higher than the 5 mb / s listed on the A1 benchmark
I currently have the 12gb RAM/ 256gb S22 ultra (U.S version U device) and am looking to trade in and upgrade to the S23 Ultra strictly for SOT improvement and an overall cooler phone experience (my S22 U gets uncomfortably warm outside here in the Vegas scorching heat.)
For S23U folks with the 8gb Ram/ 256gb version- How's the RAM holding up for you so far? I know the S22 Ultra 8gb/ 128gb version got a lot of flak because the RAM wasn't good enough coupled with last year's inefficient Snapdragon processor which is why I stayed away from that version and hence why I'm trying to figure out if the same holds true for the S23 Ultra or not.
I don't really care for the bigger 512gb drive since 256gb is more than enough for my needs and I rarely game for the most part. I also don't tend to leave too many apps open except for google chrome tabs. Even with the free 512gb promotion Samsung U.S.A is currently running right now I can get the 8gb RAM/ 256gb version for a little over $200 cheaper.
Thanks!
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I currently have the 12gb RAM/ 256gb S22 ultra (U.S version U device) and am looking to trade in and upgrade to the S23 Ultra strictly for SOT improvement and an overall cooler phone experience (my S22 U gets uncomfortably warm outside here in the Vegas scorching heat.)
For folks with the 8gb Ram/ 256gb version- How's the RAM holding up for you so far? I know the S22 Ultra 8gb/ 128gb version got a lot of flak because the RAM wasn't good enough coupled with last year's inefficient Snapdragon processor which is why I stayed away from that version and hence why I'm trying to figure out if the same holds true for the S23 Ultra or not.
I don't really care for the bigger 512gb drive since 256gb is more than enough for my needs and I rarely game for the most part. I also don't tend to leave too many apps open except for google chrome tabs. Even with the free 512gb promotion Samsung U.S.A is currently running right now I can get the 8gb RAM/ 256gb version for a little over $200 cheaper.
Thanks!
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I have both the 12gb & 8gb model, the 12gb uses a little more RAM than the 8gb. My 8gb hovers around 4gb of usage at all times... The 12gb use's 5/6gb at all time's. I'd say make the move!!!
I never noticed any over heating on my S22 not one time. My opinion the S23 is optimized better. Your issue could have been a rouge app. Each person used their device different. The S23 is an amazing device but to switch for more SOT I don't know. People get so caught up in that. I mean how much is enough? That is why I just use my device and don't worry about it. But some that brag about huge SOT usually have so much disabled I wonder why they got a flagship device. But here's my thing. Is the S23 better, hell yes it's a beast. If you can afford it go for it.
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I have both the 12gb & 8gb model, the 12gb uses a little more RAM than the 8gb. My 8gb hovers around 4gb of usage at all times... The 12gb use's 5/6gb at all time's. I'd say make the move!!!
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So apart from the usage difference no stutters, freezes or hang ups on your 8gb model? Does the 8gb operate as fast and as fluidly as your 12gb? Thanks!
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So apart from the usage difference no stutters, freezes or hang ups on your 8gb model? Does the 8gb operate as fast and as fluidly as your 12gb? Thanks!
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I ran some benchmarks for you, my 8gb model performs slightly better than my 12gb model . I don't see any kind of difference when using either device. See below
8GB
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1632663
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/571039
12GB
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1632964
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/571109
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I ran some benchmarks for you, my 8gb model performs slightly better than my 12gb model . I don't see any kind of difference when using either device. See below
8GB
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1632663
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/571039
12GB
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1632964
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/571109
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RAM won't affect the Geekbench results. It solely measures CPU performance.
Also, your S23U throttled HARD there.
12Gb version of mine.
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So apart from the usage difference no stutters, freezes or hang ups on your 8gb model? Does the 8gb operate as fast and as fluidly as your 12gb? Thanks!
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RAM will only affect your Multitasking experience. In day-to-day usage, it won't affect the "performance" of your phone unless you run simultaneously 10 large apps that eat your RAM. So, 8Gb or 12Gb, your phone won't feel "faster".
The more RAM you get the better, at this point I wouldn't be getting an 8Gb model.
12Gb is becoming a "standard" for Android nowadays.
You won't notice a difference unless you're running multiple apps at once and switching between them. It could be argued that the speed benefit from the slightly faster storage speeds in the 512 GB vs 256 would be more noticeable. In the US, Samsung is doing the 512 for the price of the 256, so that's a consideration.
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RAM won't affect the Geekbench results. It solely measures CPU performance.
Also, your S23U throttled HARD there.
12Gb version of mine.
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I've noticed the SM-S918B benchmarks a little higher than U/U1 variants.
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RAM won't affect the Geekbench results. It solely measures CPU performance.
Also, your S23U throttled HARD there.
12Gb version of mine.
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Got a similar result, but only on a cold plate lol.
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You won't be able to tell the difference between 8GB and 12GB RAM but without MicroSD 256GB is all the storage your device will ever have. 200 bucks? You'll spend that much on a decent pair of sneakers, you're tripping over toothpicks.
I can't compare the two devices but I'm using the 12gb version and after I debloated it I hover around 3gb, even with several non system apps always running in the background.
My main is a 12/512 S23 Ultra. For a number of business reasons, I must have a back up phone that is a mirror of the main one, so I got a S23 Ultra with 8/256.
The back up only see sees occasional use to synch everything but I used it on occasion. I didn't see any performance difference.
I only use business apps (Office 365, a few banking apps, authentication apps and secure messaging and secured video.
If there would be a performance difference, it would require way more open apps than I normally have.
Gaming is limited to my PS5. Just hate small screens.
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I can't compare the two devices but I'm using the 12gb version and after I debloated it I hover around 3gb, even with several non system apps always running in the background.
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Can u share which apps u debloated n what r the benefits u getting from it?
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Can u share which apps u debloated n what r the benefits u getting from it?
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You can use regular adb commands to do this on any android but for ease of use there's 2 programs that help with it one is universal android debloater from GitHub and is free and open source, and the other is adb app control and it has a free and paid version.
The benefits are longer battery life, and less data usage. I removed everything related to Bixby and most of Samsung stuff (messages, dialer, gallery, Spay, etc.) The only Samsung stuff I left was enough to use theme park with hex themes.
12gb of ram is for keeper, since you '''''''upgrade''''''' from a s22 to s23, you're not a keeper, so get the cheapest one, you'll never notice a difference if you're no a super user, and spend the extra to a dinner to one of your relative and the memories will remain for ever <3
12GB might be useful if you keep the phone for 3-4 years. 8GB is plenty for normal usage, for now.
It also depends on how OEMs manage the RAM. On my old Find X2 Pro, most apps got nuked overnight, despite having 12GB of RAM. S23U has been much better at keeping apps open, despite also having 12GB and a bunch of S-pen services running in the background.
For my use case, I am already using over 10GB, due to a large number of social and work apps. I also never close apps from recent screen, unless they crash or have some misbehavior. I wish Samsung still makes 16GB version like S20 and S21 Ultra though.