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If anyone can get my Pro to work on T-Mobiles 3G network. I heard they are going to carry it and that hardware is the same its just the software....
Shoot me if its not passable but im trying :/
Wow, that's practically a 3rd of the devices price :O. I'm sure people would help you without offering the money. I would wait for the cooked ROMs as the might just fix the issue.
O yea
EDIT: You have to show me how to instal it and give me everything I need to instal it
thanks
GlobalM3 said:
O yea
EDIT: You have to show me how to instal it and give me everything I need to instal it
thanks
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I assume you're kidding right? As the Raphael forum is brand spankin' new I'll throw you a bone and guide you to ROM upgrading guide for the Kaiser from the Kaiser's Wiki. Upgrading the Raphael's ROM will be similar. BTW, seems nobody knows for sure if the UK version of the Raph has the necessary hardware for UMTS with AT&T or T-mobile.
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I assume you're kidding right? As the Raphael forum is brand spankin' new I'll throw you a bone and guide you to ROM upgrading guide for the Kaiser from the Kaiser's Wiki. Upgrading the Raphael's ROM will be similar. BTW, seems nobody knows for sure if the UK version of the Raph has the necessary hardware for UMTS with AT&T or T-mobile.
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Thanks for the help.
Im just lazy to look at all the numbers and roms and threads on if and what works. I just want the radio for 3g T-Mobile to work. It be nice to have some other cool features as well but I really need 3G
thanks again
Yea, as i stated earlier, you have to try out the different ROMs and have the exact settings to get it to work.
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Yea, as i stated earlier, you have to try out the different ROMs and have the exact settings to get it to work.
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I heard that it can brick your phone.....
thanks again
If you follow the instructions, you should be good to go. Just read and once you feel comfortable, do it.
See theproblem is its all over whelming to me.
I don't know if its 1700 or 2100 the phone has to have to work on tmo. And I also seen that the diamond shows 1700/1900 and 2100 umts but they are not active when someone selects it....
Kind of understand my position?
Tnx again for your reply
GlobalM3 - why don't you call TMO support phone number and ask which band to choose for 3G? Probably you also need to try to activate hsupa/hsdpa.
p.s.: anyway you should flash your phone to newest rom and radio available, possibly the fix is already in it...
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See theproblem is its all over whelming to me.
I don't know if its 1700 or 2100 the phone has to have to work on tmo. And I also seen that the diamond shows 1700/1900 and 2100 umts but they are not active when someone selects it....
Kind of understand my position?
Tnx again for your reply
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t-mobile uses umts 2100
it not being active can have many origins
u need a abbo for it , a login, server ip etc
best to check with the customerservice or on the t-mobile website
you can register your account there and the phone
once on the customerpage of your account you can choose to have the settings send by sms
this will auto-configure the proper settings
Guys I am referring to T-Mobile USA 3G not Euro T-Mobile.
THanks for the shot at help
GlobalM3 said:
Guys I am referring to T-Mobile USA 3G not Euro T-Mobile.
THanks for the shot at help
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T-mobile usa uses 1700 and 2100.
GlobalM3 said:
I heard that it can brick your phone.....
thanks again
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Well that's propably why you'll be seeing Rom's being singed to flash to Oli's SPL just like in th Diamond forum's
The main setup is safety.
Bricked devices being sent back to the Provider or HTC is in no one's Best interest (Excuse me if i used the incorrect phrasing here, but you know what i'm trying to say)
Heck i think if you donated 75 to XDA and 75 to anyone willing to help you flash and get the right tools there'd be plenty of users willing to help you out.
I think the most posters above are only trying to save you some money.
You'll need to flash a radio ROM from the AT&T ROMs. In fact, if you can, flashing the whole AT&T ROM may help.
I know AT&T and T-Mo USA have different bands, but the AT&T ROM is the only US ROM/Radio ROM, and so is the most likely to work (unless the devices ship with a radio ROM that covers all bands).
ROM flashing may come with a risk of bricking. Nothing is risk free, but the official RUUs are likely to work best (if the device is not CID locked that is)
Then I will donate some of that money to XDA
I wonder if att has the right band... but why would it :./
Thanks
It may not have the right band, but it's the only radio ROM that'll work at all on US 3G networks.
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It may not have the right band, but it's the only radio ROM that'll work at all on US 3G networks.
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So you are saying that the radio supports it but no the software?
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So you are saying that the radio supports it but no the software?
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I don't know. But without the software, there's no change the hardware will work fully.
As stated, T-mo US uses UMTS 1700 and 2100. The problem is T-mo is separating HSPA between the two bands: 1700 for the uplink (HSUPA) and 2100 for the downlink (HSDPA). I may be wrong, but I don't think any other carrier does this (AT&T 3G uses 850/1900, but both links are available in both bands).
It is unclear at this time whether any of the radio chipsets in current Europe/Asia 3G handsets can support this split implementation, henceforth referred to as AWS (even though AWS is a bit of a misnomer, since AWS refers only to the US 1700/2100 frequencies and not necessarily the split-HSPA configuration T-mo US is using).
We will probably have to wait until T-mo/HTC puts out an AWS-capable device and dissect it to see which radio chipset it uses. If the Pro has the same chipset, there might be a good chance of flashing the radio to support T-mo 3G.
Further Reading:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/aws/index.php?p=i
http://www.breakitdownblog.com/3g-iphone-may-not-work-on-t-mobile-3g-network/
As posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2188467
Do you guys think the devs will be able to enable AWS HSPA bands on the ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS devices?
Many of us in Canada use Roam Mobility (T-Mo MVNO) when we roam in the USA. Having access to AWS + 1900 HSPA would be great so that we're camping on 2G less often.
It is in there, the problem is unlocking it. ATT may have required an efuse based lock that cannot be changed once set at the factory.
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Interesting thing is htc has listed data speeds for canadian version via hsdpa is up to 42mb and it's the same for t-mobile USA, only At&t has different one. This could mean, that Canadian version might be similar to T-mobile version. But, this could just mean at&t's network doesn't support speeds of 42mb on hsdpa. I'm leaning toward network limitations.. But, I'm hoping I'm wrong haha
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Interesting thing is htc has listed data speeds for canadian version via hsdpa is up to 42mb and it's the same for t-mobile USA, only At&t has different one. This could mean, that Canadian version might be similar to T-mobile version. But, this could just mean at&t's network doesn't support speeds of 42mb on hsdpa. I'm leaning toward network limitations.. But, I'm hoping I'm wrong haha
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ATT does not support 42mbit (network limitation).
Hunt3r.j2 said:
It is in there, the problem is unlocking it. ATT may have required an efuse based lock that cannot be changed once set at the factory.
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It was so easy on the S3 / Note 2 (using Qualcomm software). I'm using a Bell version of the HTC One.
WorldIRC said:
It was so easy on the S3 / Note 2 (using Qualcomm software). I'm using a Bell version of the HTC One.
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Once I get mine I will take a look on a telus model with the Qualcomm baseband software, like I did on my note 2.
Dazog said:
Once I get mine I will take a look on a telus model with the Qualcomm baseband software, like I did on my note 2.
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Thanks! I look forward to your findings.
WorldIRC said:
It was so easy on the S3 / Note 2 (using Qualcomm software). I'm using a Bell version of the HTC One.
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That's great, but Samsung's lock was superficial, incredibly easy to bypass. Maybe flashing TMOUS radios will do it, but there's no guarantees and it requires S-OFF.
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That's great, but Samsung's lock was superficial, incredibly easy to bypass. Maybe flashing TMOUS radios will do it, but there's no guarantees and it requires S-OFF.
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We know, but the hack or mod will allow us to keep the latest radio's released modded for all frequencies.
Instead of cross flashing all the time.
Dazog said:
We know, but the hack or mod will allow us to keep the latest radio's released modded for all frequencies.
Instead of cross flashing all the time.
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Honestly I don't think this is something worth investigating until S-OFF is achieved. Then we have to figure out whether or not the lock on AWS WCDMA can be removed with software means.
The iPhone 5 had the same exact problem. For T-Mobile they released a phone with the same model number as the ATT version but with AWS WCDMA unlocked. Apple was unable to do anything for the ATT users because the lock went so low level that no software could change it, so they had to just change the software from the factory instead.
The same thing may be happening here.
Has anyone figured this out yet using the QPST method in the Qualcomm software like we do with Samsung?
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Has anyone figured this out yet using the QPST method in the Qualcomm software like we do with Samsung?
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Is there any update on this?
I can understand them locking the AT&T version down at hardware, but no the International version.
Anyone know if I can flash the International to open up 1700 AWS?
Does anyone know if the AT&T HTC One has the 2600 Mhz 4G/LTE band?
The International model does, but not sure if after converting the AT&T one changing the MID, CID and RUU will unlock the band.
I have the unlocked version sitting on my desk right now.
The only difference seems to be that the radios are not the same?
But I've been reading that the radio might be flashable so it can accept Tmobile frequencies.
One question though, can ROMs from the unlocked version be used on the Tmobile version? Thanks
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I have the unlocked version sitting on my desk right now.
The only difference seems to be that the radios are not the same?
But I've been reading that the radio might be flashable so it can accept Tmobile frequencies.
One question though, can ROMs from the unlocked version be used on the Tmobile version? Thanks
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From what I have read, the T-Mobile H1 can flash any ROM.
The radio flashing is an open question. So far attempts to get the AWS working on the dev / unlocked models have not worked. HTC says they have different radio hardware, but at this point it is anyone's guess if we will ever get AWS working on dev.
If you use the unlocked / dev on TMO, you will get 21 Mb on the 1900 refarmed band, and eventually LTE if you live in an area that has it. Right now there are maybe three areas with LTE.
If you got the 32 Gb unlocked, in my opinion it has no advantage over the T-Mobile model. The Dev edition has 64 gb of storage.
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From what I have read, the T-Mobile H1 can flash any ROM.
The radio flashing is an open question. So far attempts to get the AWS working on the dev / unlocked models have not worked. HTC says they have different radio hardware, but at this point it is anyone's guess if we will ever get AWS working on dev.
If you use the unlocked / dev on TMO, you will get 21 Mb on the 1900 refarmed band, and eventually LTE if you live in an area that has it. Right now there are maybe three areas with LTE.
If you got the 32 Gb unlocked, in my opinion it has no advantage over the T-Mobile model. The Dev edition has 64 gb of storage.
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The tmobile version flashed to the unlocked ROM should retain AWS on HSPA+, correct? That's the route I will probably be taking. The additional LTE bands are inconsequential for me - mainly south america and Philippines.
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The tmobile version flashed to the unlocked ROM should retain AWS on HSPA+, correct? That's the route I will probably be taking. The additional LTE bands are inconsequential for me - mainly south america and Philippines.
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I don't think anyone has tried that yet. I suspect AWS wouldn't work without some modification because the ROM would not support AWS. But I don't think it would hurt anything either.
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The tmobile version flashed to the unlocked ROM should retain AWS on HSPA+, correct? That's the route I will probably be taking. The additional LTE bands are inconsequential for me - mainly south america and Philippines.
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Yes, flashing ROMs doesn't affect frequency compatibility. All GSM One variants have the same hardware and ROMs/kernels are cross-compatible (international HSPA-only, and EMEA/AT&T/T-moblie LTE). ROMs don't include radio software, and so far at least, radio software hasn't affected available frequency bands.
teiglin said:
Yes, flashing ROMs doesn't affect frequency compatibility. All GSM One variants have the same hardware and ROMs/kernels are cross-compatible (international HSPA-only, and EMEA/AT&T/T-moblie LTE). ROMs don't include radio software, and so far at least, radio software hasn't affected available frequency bands.
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If flashing ROMs (not radios) to/from intl, US, EMEA models don't affect supported bands, I don't see why it would affect tmobile -> unlocked. Advantages would be no tmobile bloat, no hacks to please the tmobile overloads, etc.
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If flashing ROMs (not radios) to/from intl, US, EMEA models don't affect supported bands, I don't see why it would affect tmobile -> unlocked. Advantages would be no tmobile bloat, no hacks to please the tmobile overloads, etc.
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It sounds like you're disagreeing with me or something, but yes, flashing an international ROM on tmo One is great because it gets rid of bloat, can edit APNs to enable tethering, and always based on latest firmware rather than waiting for tmo to push an update. Only downside I know of is no wifi calling. I'm running TrickDroid on mine and it works great.
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It sounds like you're disagreeing with me or something, but yes, flashing an international ROM on tmo One is great because it gets rid of bloat, can edit APNs to enable tethering, and always based on latest firmware rather than waiting for tmo to push an update. Only downside I know of is no wifi calling. I'm running TrickDroid on mine and it works great.
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Sorry, that was more directed at stevedebi's comment. Wifi calling can be replaced with SIP calling so that should be fine.
Warranty problems?
One potential issue with getting the T-Mobile version could have to do with the warranty. U.S. carriers seem squeamish about people modding their phones and threaten to void the warranty for unlocking bootloaders, rooting, etc. That said, I don't have specific info at hand that HTC unlocked phones are much more lenient but seems worth looking into.
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Sorry, that was more directed at stevedebi's comment. Wifi calling can be replaced with SIP calling so that should be fine.
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Well, most of the new T-Mobile plans come with unlimited hotspot and WiFi calling. I'm not planning to unlock mine. My One is performing fine on the stock ROM, and TMO will update the software (eventually).
As noted above, I'm not sure that T-Mobile looks kindly on having TAMPERED show up on a phone. They might well deny a warranty claim.
For me get the T-Mobile HTC one I had the 64gb edition got tired of the stupid refarm 1900mhz frequency my icon was switching from H to 3G. Now with my original T-Mobile HTC one I get steady 4g icon and good speeds
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stevedebi said:
Well, most of the new T-Mobile plans come with unlimited hotspot and WiFi calling. I'm not planning to unlock mine. My One is performing fine on the stock ROM, and TMO will update the software (eventually).
As noted above, I'm not sure that T-Mobile looks kindly on having TAMPERED show up on a phone. They might well deny a warranty claim.
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Same here mine is stock Rom with no root or unlocked bootloader only have about 5 T-Mobile apps that don't worry me.
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ahernandez4110 said:
For me get the T-Mobile HTC one I had the 64gb edition got tired of the stupid refarm 1900mhz frequency my icon was switching from H to 3G. Now with my original T-Mobile HTC one I get steady 4g icon and good speeds
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Switching from H to 3G is just what the radio does; it's how the interface is supposed to work. The T-Mobile version works exactly the same way--and you can see this if you flash an international ROM on your tmo One--but tmo assumes Americans are idiots who a. don't know what HSPA+ is, and b. get confused if the radio idles at "3G" when they expect to have "4G" coverage. So stock tmo ROM just shows 4G all the time, but it is just themed connection icons really. Seems like they're right to do this, which is a bit sad.
Of course, that doesn't mean that you would be getting the same speeds with the dev edition, since even in refarmed areas, you could well get better UMTS coverage over AWS than PCS.
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Switching from H to 3G is just what the radio does; it's how the interface is supposed to work. The T-Mobile version works exactly the same way--and you can see this if you flash an international ROM on your tmo One--but tmo assumes Americans are idiots who a. don't know what HSPA+ is, and b. get confused if the radio idles at "3G" when they expect to have "4G" coverage. So stock tmo ROM just shows 4G all the time, but it is just themed connection icons really. Seems like they're right to do this, which is a bit sad.
Of course, that doesn't mean that you would be getting the same speeds with the dev edition, since even in refarmed areas, you could well get better UMTS coverage over AWS than PCS.
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Not to mention that in many cases you get EDGE on 1900 even in refarmed markets.
yeah I was thinking of getting the DE because its 64gb but then I realize that with wifi everywhere, I can just upload pictures or videos to you box account, then delete them to make room, and keep installing apps I want and delete those you dont.
After dealing with 16gb in a Gnexus, you learn how to manage to space
teiglin said:
Switching from H to 3G is just what the radio does; it's how the interface is supposed to work. The T-Mobile version works exactly the same way--and you can see this if you flash an international ROM on your tmo One--but tmo assumes Americans are idiots who a. don't know what HSPA+ is, and b. get confused if the radio idles at "3G" when they expect to have "4G" coverage. So stock tmo ROM just shows 4G all the time, but it is just themed connection icons really. Seems like they're right to do this, which is a bit sad.
Of course, that doesn't mean that you would be getting the same speeds with the dev edition, since even in refarmed areas, you could well get better UMTS coverage over AWS than PCS.
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You are right if you go to phone settings-about- network you could see UMTS and HSPS+ it swicthes between UMTS 3g and 4g HSPS+ and my 4g icon stays the same, this also happen to my old HTC one 64gb developer edition but it never showed the 4g icon like T-Mobile HTC one all it showed was 3g and H icons this happens in a 1900mhz refarm area. Look at T-Mobile HTC One as example thank god it has 1700mhz built-in that's why I got ridoff my developer Edition
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The tmobile version flashed to the unlocked ROM should retain AWS on HSPA+, correct? That's the route I will probably be taking. The additional LTE bands are inconsequential for me - mainly south america and Philippines.
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yes flashing the TMO version on an unlocked rom will allow you to retain the AWS bands tmobile uses for 3g/HSDPA/HSPAP(HSDPA+)
i bought the TMO HTC one and am now using ordroid 4.2.0 on se7en kernel and i have AWS signal. and not just refarmed signal also umts signal as well.
Hi everyone,
What settings can I use to configure my phone to T-mobile? I have an ATT unlocked 920 and I only get E signal. At times it switches to 4G and it drops. I read many posts about changing connection speed but I don't have the option. Is there a firmware that I should install in order to get the most use out of my phone?
Thanks to anyone that can help out.
wantlivenow said:
Hi everyone,
What settings can I use to configure my phone to T-mobile? I have an ATT unlocked 920 and I only get E signal. At times it switches to 4G and it drops. I read many posts about changing connection speed but I don't have the option. Is there a firmware that I should install in order to get the most use out of my phone?
Thanks to anyone that can help out.
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Also, is it possible to make ATT phone see Wind/Mobility AWS networks by flashing a different ROM?
lumia 920 unlocked
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Also, is it possible to make ATT phone see Wind/Mobility AWS networks by flashing a different ROM?
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I unlocked my Lumia 920 at&t version yesterday. But it didn't worked with mobilicity. I don't know what's the problem. Can any one help.
It seems that ATT version, unlike Rogers version, has AWS disabled. And apparently it is not controlled by the firmware image itself, because I flashed Rogers rom. We need to find a way to turn it back on...
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It seems that ATT version, unlike Rogers version, has AWS disabled. And apparently it is not controlled by the firmware image itself, because I flashed Rogers rom. We need to find a way to turn it back on...
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So even that didn't worked??? I think so it wont gonna work.I just emailed to nokia care they say, even flashing the phone with different rom wont gonna work. It's not controlled by firmware.Then too i am planning to flash with rogers version!1 What you suggest????
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So even that didn't worked??? I think so it wont gonna work.I just emailed to nokia care they say, even flashing the phone with different rom wont gonna work. It's not controlled by firmware.Then too i am planning to flash with rogers version!1 What you suggest????
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What is AWS?
will att lumia 920 work with tmobile 4g network?
wcwei5800 said:
will att lumia 920 work with tmobile 4g network?
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For some reason, when I go to different areas around my city, I get 4G, but when I am at home, it switches to edge.
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What is AWS?
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AT&T version doesnt have 1700 frequency so it wont gonna work on WIND / MOBILICITY.
nokian10 said:
AT&T version doesnt have 1700 frequency so it wont gonna work on WIND / MOBILICITY.
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I still don't get this part - are phones sold by ATT and Rogers different in hardware? Because people reported using Wind/Mobilicity on inlocked Rogers phones without any issues. I was under the impression that ATT phone should also work if flashed with Rogers firmware. Is it not the case?
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What is AWS?
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AWS stands for Advanced Wireless Services (wikipedia). It uses 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz bands, and only a few phones support these bands.
So there no way to enable 4g on a AT&T Lumia. I love this phone but if there no way to fix this then what the point on having a slow connection
I have it enabled after they gave me the unlock code. I haven't done anything special to enable it apart from the regular phone updates. I'm not in the USA.
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I still don't get this part - are phones sold by ATT and Rogers different in hardware? Because people reported using Wind/Mobilicity on inlocked Rogers phones without any issues. I was under the impression that ATT phone should also work if flashed with Rogers firmware. Is it not the case?
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AWS stands for Advanced Wireless Services (wikipedia). It uses 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz bands, and only a few phones support these bands.
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yes, Thats what nokia canada told me in a reply that even if you flash it, it wont gonna work
wantlivenow said:
Hi everyone,
What settings can I use to configure my phone to T-mobile? I have an ATT unlocked 920 and I only get E signal. At times it switches to 4G and it drops. I read many posts about changing connection speed but I don't have the option. Is there a firmware that I should install in order to get the most use out of my phone?
Thanks to anyone that can help out.
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AT&T L920 has AWS 3G disabled by default. You must flash an alternate ROM to enable it.
peconaut said:
So there no way to enable 4g on a AT&T Lumia. I love this phone but if there no way to fix this then what the point on having a slow connection
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Yes you can.
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yes, Thats what nokia canada told me in a reply that even if you flash it, it wont gonna work
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They are wrong. They do not want people flashing ROMs on their phone so of course they'll say something like that.
Flash a different ROM to enable AWS band.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097815&highlight=aws+3g
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AT&T L920 has AWS 3G disabled by default. You must flash an alternate ROM to enable it.
Yes you can.
They are wrong. They do not want people flashing ROMs on their phone so of course they'll say something like that.
Flash a different ROM to enable AWS band.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097815&highlight=aws+3g
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I looked through the thread and I assume this method is still possible? If I enable the AWS band will I be able to get 3g and 4g on my phone? (Currently, I have E and 4G, but my house is at the end of the 4g signal...lol.)
wantlivenow said:
I looked through the thread and I assume this method is still possible? If I enable the AWS band will I be able to get 3g and 4g on my phone? (Currently, I have E and 4G, but my house is at the end of the 4g signal...lol.)
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Yes, you will have 100% access to ALL of T-Mobile's network.
BUT the European ROM does not call HSPA+ "4G", it says H+ in the status bar. The European networks never followed T-Mobile's bull**** of calling HSPA+ a 4G network.
Look at the RM-821 column in this chart to see what each connection type will be labeled with a European ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37197816&postcount=51
If you WANT I believe you can flash the Rogers ROM after flashing the Euro Dev ROM if you want the T-Mobile connection labels. Rogers and AT&T L920 ROMs also get updates before the European ROMs, so that is another thing to consider.
petard said:
Yes, you will have 100% access to ALL of T-Mobile's network.
BUT the European ROM does not call HSPA+ "4G", it says H+ in the status bar. The European networks never followed T-Mobile's bull**** of calling HSPA+ a 4G network.
Look at the RM-821 column in this chart to see what each connection type will be labeled with a European ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37197816&postcount=51
If you WANT I believe you can flash the Rogers ROM after flashing the Euro Dev ROM if you want the T-Mobile connection labels. Rogers and AT&T L920 ROMs also get updates before the European ROMs, so that is another thing to consider.
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I'm currently on European DEV ROM. How exactly do you folks confirm that AWS is indeed working? Can anyone please confirm that you were able to get Wind Home on unlocked ATT Lumia 920 that has been flashed to Rogers, European and then back to Rogers ROM?
netgh0st said:
I'm currently on European DEV ROM. How exactly do you folks confirm that AWS is indeed working? Can anyone please confirm that you were able to get Wind Home on unlocked ATT Lumia 920 that has been flashed to Rogers, European and then back to Rogers ROM?
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If you are able to connect to an AWS network. I personally use AT&T so I can't test it out, just repeating what others have said. What I know is that people with Rogers pentaband RM-820s flashed the AT&T ROM and that disabled AWS. Flashing Rogers back didn't re-enable it. So it seems that some ROMs like AT&T reprogram the bands and some like Rogers don't. I don't know any of this for sure, though.
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If you are able to connect to an AWS network. I personally use AT&T so I can't test it out, just repeating what others have said. What I know is that people with Rogers pentaband RM-820s flashed the AT&T ROM and that disabled AWS. Flashing Rogers back didn't re-enable it. So it seems that some ROMs like AT&T reprogram the bands and some like Rogers don't. I don't know any of this for sure, though.
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The most important question now is - which ROMs can reprogam these bands back. With TMo its hard to confirm you are actually getting AWS and not the 1900 MHz 3G. I'm waiting for someone to confirm that with a true AWS carrier (Wind, Mobilicity).
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The most important question now is - which ROMs can reprogam these bands back. With TMo its hard to confirm you are actually getting AWS and not the 1900 MHz 3G. I'm waiting for someone to confirm that with a true AWS carrier (Wind, Mobilicity).
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Yeah if you're in an area with 1900MHz 3G then it is impossible to tell I think. I do not believe the 920 has any good diagnostics app.
Reading through the forums though multiple people have stated that AT&T ROM disables AWS and that euro dev ROM enables AWS. One person stated that the euro dev ROM did not enable AWS and instead he flashed through a ton of different ROMs including some latin america ROMs before finally getting AWS enabled. It's all in the thread I linked to earlier from January.
I'm sorry for the noob question, but I have an ATT One M8 and I would like to convert to the developer edition to get rid of all of this ATT nonsense.
I had a couple of questions:
1. If I do, the LTE radios are different for the ATT version and the developer version, if I use the ruu from a developer edition, will I limit the LTE frequencies I can use?
2. If I convert to developer using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721435, will I be able to get developer updates and pretend that I'm fully unlocked and stock?
Anyways, sorry if these are covered, but I have had a difficult time finding clear answers regarding the radio
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I'm sorry for the noob question, but I have an ATT One M8 and I would like to convert to the developer edition to get rid of all of this ATT nonsense.
I had a couple of questions:
1. If I do, the LTE radios are different for the ATT version and the developer version, if I use the ruu from a developer edition, will I limit the LTE frequencies I can use?
2. If I convert to developer using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721435, will I be able to get developer updates and pretend that I'm fully unlocked and stock?
Anyways, sorry if these are covered, but I have had a difficult time finding clear answers regarding the radio
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Well first you need to convert your phone to the GPE edition before you do anything else, according to that link. Plus is your bootloader unlocked and are you Supercid?
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Well first you need to convert your phone to the GPE edition before you do anything else, according to that link. Plus is your bootloader unlocked and are you Supercid?
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Ok, fair enough, I suppose maybe this is a better guide: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...238-convert-att-device-developer-edition.html
I think the point is, if I s-off and install the developer RUU, then I assume that will use developer radios right? Can I flash the ATT radios after the developer edition RUU?
Maybe a tangential question is how the cell radio frequencies work. ATT uses, 700, 1700 AWS, 1900 PCS, 2300 WCS LTE bands. I would assume, different towers will broadcast different bands. So if you had the developer edition which just supports the 700MHz band, then if you came across a tower that broadcast another, you wouldn't be able to connect. Is that basic premise correct? Is it possible all towers broadcast all bands?
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Ok, fair enough, I suppose maybe this is a better guide: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...238-convert-att-device-developer-edition.html
I think the point is, if I s-off and install the developer RUU, then I assume that will use developer radios right? Can I flash the ATT radios after the developer edition RUU?
Maybe a tangential question is how the cell radio frequencies work. ATT uses, 700, 1700 AWS, 1900 PCS, 2300 WCS LTE bands. I would assume, different towers will broadcast different bands. So if you had the developer edition which just supports the 700MHz band, then if you came across a tower that broadcast another, you wouldn't be able to connect. Is that basic premise correct? Is it possible all towers broadcast all bands?
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Hot damn thats a loaded question and alittle out of my realm lol. Hopefully someone will answer!!!!
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I think the point is, if I s-off and install the developer RUU, then I assume that will use developer radios right? Can I flash the ATT radios after the developer edition RUU?
Maybe a tangential question is how the cell radio frequencies work. ATT uses, 700, 1700 AWS, 1900 PCS, 2300 WCS LTE bands. I would assume, different towers will broadcast different bands. So if you had the developer edition which just supports the 700MHz band, then if you came across a tower that broadcast another, you wouldn't be able to connect. Is that basic premise correct? Is it possible all towers broadcast all bands?
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As long as you are s-off, you can flash whatever radio you want. You also need SuperCID according to the radio thread (since the AT&T CID does not match your device CID): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736921
I don't know where you are getting that the Dev Edition is only compatible with 700 MHz. According to HTC specs, it supports LTE Bands 17/4/2/5, which corresponds to Bands 4 and 17 (700 and 1700 MHz)used by AT&T.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=42973
My understanding is that the US unlocked and DE versions are both intended for use on AT&T. Also my understanding is the hardware is identical to the AT&T variant. I don't see a reason the band compatibility in the radio firmware would be any different.
Moved to Q&A forum.
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As long as you are s-off, you can flash whatever radio you want. You also need SuperCID according to the radio thread (since the AT&T CID does not match your device CID): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736921
I don't know where you are getting that the Dev Edition is only compatible with 700 MHz. According to HTC specs, it supports LTE Bands 17/4/2/5, which corresponds to Bands 4 and 17 (700 and 1700 MHz)used by AT&T.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=42973
My understanding is that the US unlocked and DE versions are both intended for use on AT&T. Also my understanding is the hardware is identical to the AT&T variant. I don't see a reason the band compatibility in the radio firmware would be any different.
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Oh, thanks. For some reason, when I looked previously I couldn't find the frequency specs on the HTC website before. I likely skipped the 'summary' page and went straight to the specs, where it oddly isn't listed. I was assuming the developer edition was the same as the GPE edition, which lists only 700MHz.
So then as a follow up, I'm sort of new to this, but I would like to convert my unit to a developer edition, would the best method be using a developer RUU? And if I do, that would likely flash the developer radio, which is likely the same as the ATT, but would I need to flash the ATT radio? Does an RUU contain radio information? How would OTA updates work? If I kept my CID as a superCID, then can I get OTA updates from HTC? Would it reflash the radio? Does it matter?
Thanks again for the previous clarification, and sorry if this is clearly stated elsewhere. I seemed to be finding conflicting advice and was completely unable to find any radio information.
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Ok, fair enough, I suppose maybe this is a better guide: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...238-convert-att-device-developer-edition.html
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That guide is for the M7. AFAIK, there is currently no RUU for the Dev Edition for the M8. So your questions regarding the RUU don't really apply. But in general yes, they include a radio. RUU is a complete image, it includes all software (ROM, radio, hboot, and more).
If the goal is simply to get rid of the AT&T bloat, gimped features, etc., then my advice would be that it would be to unlock the bootloader, install custom recovery, and flash a custom ROM.
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That guide is for the M7. AFAIK, there is currently no RUU for the Dev Edition for the M8. So your questions regarding the RUU don't really apply. But in general yes, they include a radio. RUU is a complete image, it includes all software (ROM, radio, hboot, and more).
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Ok, I'm an idiot. Here is the guide I am going to follow. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758812
I'll take most of my further questions over to it's thread. Thank you for bearing with the nonsense.
If the goal is simply to get rid of the AT&T bloat, gimped features, etc., then my advice would be that it would be to unlock the bootloader, install custom recovery, and flash a custom ROM.
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My goal is primarily to get rid of ATT bloat and have easy access to up to date 'stable' feature releases from HTC. I'm coming from a S3 with CM11 which I loved from a software standpoint and may end up with before too long, but for the time being I would like to stick with stock. The stock sense is nice enough to use and I appreciate the added stability which was a frustration with the custom ROMs that I've tried. Bluetooth was always a sore spot.
Again, thanks for the help.
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My goal is primarily to get rid of ATT bloat and have easy access to up to date 'stable' feature releases from HTC.
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In any case you will be unlocking the bootloader (modding the phone) in order to remove AT&T bloat. And IMO official OTA updates have no place on modded phones. Updated features come to XDA in the form of custom ROMs, rooted stock ROMs, etc. soon after their "official" release. So to me, that is not an issue. You can try to jump through hoops turning it into a DE phone, and hope you get OTAs (not sure if you will or not). Or you can have complete freedom to flash and mod whatever you want.
To me, its a pretty easy choice.