Has anyone heard of the 32 or 64gb coming to Verizon?
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Has anyone heard of the 32 or 64gb coming to Verizon?
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Why do you need one?
SD card is always cheaper.
I agree, I want something bigger than 16gb (10 usable) as well
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Why do you need one?
SD card is always cheaper.
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Does it matter? There are a variety of reasons someone would want more than 16gb internal. Even with the extra 64gb, I am pretty sure I will max mine out almost instantly when I get it. Some people use more memory than others.
And no, no word on the 32gb model yet.
kimdoocheol said:
Does it matter? There are a variety of reasons someone would want more than 16gb internal. Even with the extra 64gb, I am pretty sure I will max mine out almost instantly when I get it. Some people use more memory than others.
And no, no word on the 32gb model yet.
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64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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Yes, I have tons of data, including files needed for school, work, entertainment since I'm gone almost all day, every day.
50gb of dropbox data is nice, but I like to be able to always access the files physically on my device. Additionally, I have tons of data and this is barely 1% of what I have. Also, for obvious reasons, it is better to have apps installed on the internal opposed to the SD, but 10gb is not that much. The point is Samsung/or the carriers should have delivered on this. Aside from KR and JP, it doesn't seem like any one else got the 64gb version. If that is the case, Samsung may as well say they have a 1tb version of the phone.
I have a macbook ultra, as well, but loathe lugging it around all day. Sometimes it is just nice to have one device that does it all without having to constantly hook it up to the computer, delete files, etc. etc. Aside from that, I don't really question how others use their phone, but can see the need for more data. I know I wouldn't be a [email protected]@ss and tell others to reevaulate their phone usage, though, especially when Samsung makes variants with more available data.
The Verizon Rep said that Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon, like with other USA carriers, will be only 16gb internal storage for right now.
But I do agree that these devices are our computers on the go. So even with 16/32gb SD card the 16gb internal storage is really not much when you see it that way.
Why Samsung thinks that Americans only want 16gbs of internal storage? I don't know. But the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is still the most awesome device at this point in time. Just which service provider do I want (stay with Verizon or go for T-Mobile?).?
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64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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If you use 50gb or more per month on Verizon to access that 50gb Dropbox your bill will be sky high. Until we truly get true unlimited data, data storage within your device/s becomes vital. I understand that you have SD card. But system internal memory is much faster. That is where you want as much data for your apps to be. So the more internal memory the less of a need for your apps to store its data within your SD card and the faster the apps can get to its own data. This allowing you to use your SD card space to store music, podcasts, videos, documents, etc. This way you won't have such of a high bill accessing your data in the cloud.
When it comes to rethinking the usage and needs of any PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer aka Smartphone, I don't see limiting the usage with the device but I see using the device to benefit me. These devices are really PPC aka Pocket Personal Computers with both cellular and WiFi radios. So why not use these devices as a Pocket Personal Computer? A computer you can listen to music, Internet radio, podcasts, watch videos, video podcasts, create and edit documents, manage your daily life, communicate and keep up with other people, give your self a relaxing break, store your data, and so on... So why not use your PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer the same way? The only difference is that your PPC is a mobile device with cellular radio that is with you at all times and is smaller. Smaller size and having a cellular radio (for voice and data) allows the computer device to be mobile for you. And having a mobile Pocket Personal Computer allows you to manage your life and do the other stuff on the go where you need and want them. That making these Pocket Personal Computer devices even more important to have the local space for your stuff and for the applications' data.
I would have to say to you "Rethink what these Android devices really are and what you can do with them having more data storage space, including more internal memory space." And don't be fooled by the fact that these devices have cellular radio. They are really Pocket Personal Computers aka PPC. I personally feel that Samsung Galaxy Note 2's features really makes that point clear.
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The Verizon Rep said that Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon, like with other USA carriers, will be only 16gb internal memory for right now.
But I do agree that these devices are our computers on the go. So even with 16/32gb SD card the 16gb internal memory is really not much when you see it that way.
Why Samsung thinks that Americans only want 16gbs of internal memory? I don't know. But the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is still the most awesome device at this point in time. Just which service provider do I want (stay with Verizon or go for T-Mobile?).?
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If you use 50gb or more per month on Verizon to access that 50gb Dropbox your bill will be sky high. Until we truly get true unlimited data, data storage within your device/s becomes vital. I understand that you have SD card. But system internal memory is much faster. That is where you want as much data for your apps to be. So the more internal memory the less of a need for your apps to store its data within your SD card and the faster the apps can get to its own data. This allowing you to use your SD card space to store music, podcasts, videos, documents, etc. This way you won't have such of a high bill accessing your data in the cloud.
When it comes to rethinking the usage and needs of any PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer aka Smartphone, I don't see limiting the usage with the device but I see using the device to benefit me. These devices are really PPC aka Pocket Personal Computers with both cellular and WiFi radios. So why not use these devices as a Pocket Personal Computer? A computer you can listen to music, Internet radio, podcasts, watch videos, video podcasts, create and edit documents, manage your daily life, communicate and keep up with other people, give your self a relaxing break, store your data, and so on... So why not use your PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer the same way? The only difference is that your PPC is a mobile device with cellular radio that is with you at all times and is smaller. Smaller size allows the computer device to be mobile for you. And having a mobile Pocket Personal Computer allows you to manage your life and do the other stuff on the go where you need and want them. That making these Pocket Personal Computer devices even more important to have the local space for your stuff and for the applications' data.
I would have to say to you "Rethink what these Android devices really are and what you can do with them having more data storage space, including more internal memory space." And don't be fooled by the fact that these devices have cellular radio. They are really Pocket Personal Computers aka PPC. I personally feel that Samsung Galaxy Note 2's features really makes that point clear.
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Alright everywhere has wifi now. Why use 4G LTE when it drains the battery and really isn't anything special. Maybe when you're on the road and can't access it, or if you don't have wifi at home. Not everyone is going to use their data on accessing that dropbox,
I never go over 2-3gb and i'm constant checking email, facebook, netflix, etc. On and off data.
Maybe it's just me, but i dont see how people use so much data or space.
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Alright everywhere has wifi now. Why use 4G LTE when it drains the battery and really isn't anything special. Maybe when you're on the road and can't access it, or if you don't have wifi at home. Not everyone is going to use their data on accessing that dropbox,
I never go over 2-3gb and i'm constant checking email, facebook, netflix, etc. On and off data.
Maybe it's just me, but i dont see how people use so much data or space.
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Because there are people on the go. That means that you are not at home at your WiFi or sitting at the Cafe shop w/ WiFi. And most work places don't allow to use their WiFi, if they have it. That is the reason for the cellular radio to have access to voice and data where & when you need and want it. These device are not for people that stay at home. That is what tablets are for. These PPC devices are for the busy people on the go. That is where you need and want the data and other stuff when you want it without having to pay the large bill to access it. That is where large local data storage on the PPC devices becomes valuable and vital.
If you are just using the device to check email, facebook and watch netflix only, then why use such a powerful productivity and power user device as the Gallaxy Note 2? The features of this device is really designed for the busy people on the go, heavy business users, gamers, heavy media users, artist types, and for the geeks (basically for the power users).
This is where I find the divide between the casual users and the power users. Casual users don't really do anything with their device that they couldn't do with a feature phone. This makes PPC aka Smartphone a true waste for the casual user. While the power users really need the storage space and functionality of the PPC aka Smartphone devices. Another issue is calling Pocket Personal Computers as "Smartphone" devices. Microsoft was trying to compete with Apple's, back then as the new, iPhone. So Microsoft came up with the term "Smartphone" to dumb down the cellular Pocket Personal Computers to be more marketable to the casual user as a more friendly device. That was the big mistake that caused people to think of these devices as more of a "phone" than a computer. This also causes this same divide in the current world of Android.
There are number of true power users that need the functionality, large storage, high CPU power, large RAM, and the power of having a true computer in their hands at all times to need the PPC device. And there are a much larger number of casual users that don't need the PPC devices, more of a feature phone types, that uses PPC devices because they cooler to use. Those casual users are the ones that bring the sales higher, but still can't relate to the power users. This is the same story with laptop and desktop computers.
But just understand what you are holding is really a computer and not just a phone with features.
kimdoocheol said:
Does it matter? There are a variety of reasons someone would want more than 16gb internal. Even with the extra 64gb, I am pretty sure I will max mine out almost instantly when I get it. Some people use more memory than others.
And no, no word on the 32gb model yet.
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I agree. I'm worried that as soon as I start downloading all of my apps, I will be out of storage. On my 16GB Nexus 7, I couldn't download all of the apps that I have on my Galaxy Nexus before I got a low storage warning. I have the basic apps I use daily, and then several games that are rather large. I don't like being limited by the storage, but there is supposedly a work around that can switch the internal memory to the SD card memory so that storage isn't an issue.
The only thing I've heard about the 32GB and 64GB is that Verizon will most likely not sell those versions unless the 16GB versions sales warrant adding those models. However, that could just be rumor. I doubt that if they do decide to release those versions, it wont be any time before the New Year.
I ask because I'm trading up from a 32gb gs3. I just don't want to feel like a step back. I know I could not be lazy and move rom files and stuff to the 64gb card I have but I can't help but feel it's a step back... Blah.
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thanx for the info guys =)
computingwarren said:
64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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No, there isn't. Verizon and AT&T's Note 2s won't get the dropbox promotion.
https://www.dropbox.com/help/297/en
flaring afro said:
No, there isn't. Verizon and AT&T's Note 2s won't get the dropbox promotion.
https://www.dropbox.com/help/297/en
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Someone said on another forum that they have AT&T and got the free Dropbox promotion.
XstitchCowgirl said:
Someone said on another forum that they have AT&T and got the free Dropbox promotion.
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Once rooted, it may just be a build.prop edit, really.. The free space stays afterwards anyway.
I had a Tmo Note 2 for a week, canceled the service and returned the phone due to service issues, and still have the space.
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I don't load up that many Apps for 16gigs to be a concern. The only time I run into problems is when I want to load up a 4gig plus movie on my Nexus 7. With the Note 2 sd card slot the majority of people will not have this issue.
Plus I don't see a $400 Note 2 32gig being a big seller on Verizon. $300 is the max I would pay right now.
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Once rooted, it may just be a build.prop edit, really.. The free space stays afterwards anyway.
I had a Tmo Note 2 for a week, canceled the service and returned the phone due to service issues, and still have the space.
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I'm already so tempted to take out a Sprint Note 2 without the intention of keeping it or the service - don't give me more reasons to do it. lol
cdmoore74 said:
Plus I don't see a $400 Note 2 32gig being a big seller on Verizon. $300 is the max I would pay right now.
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I'm sure they'll bring one out eventually and lower the price of the current Note 2 when they do. My guess is it will be $250/$300 and happen around February, but it's just a guess.
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I don't load up that many Apps for 16gigs to be a concern. The only time I run into problems is when I want to load up a 4gig plus movie on my Nexus 7. With the Note 2 sd card slot the majority of people will not have this issue.
Plus I don't see a $400 Note 2 32gig being a big seller on Verizon. $300 is the max I would pay right now.
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It isn't an Apple product, lol. I would expect the 16gb only to be $50 more. 349.99 which imo, is still a bit much, though. I think the Note2 should've been priced at 249.99 and 300 for the 32gb.
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I'm sure they'll bring one out eventually and lower the price of the current Note 2 when they do. My guess is it will be $250/$300 and happen around February, but it's just a guess.
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I wouldn't count on that for a few reasons:
1.) as advertised the msd slot will make it so many people do not have this issue.
2.) i don't know why you think that'll happen around feb. the s3 hasn't had a price drop yet either and that phone has been out approx. 3-4 months. so in feb the note 2 will have been out 3-4 months, so i don't know why they would slash the price just so they can give us a phone with more memory for the same price.
3.) they are already talking about the S4 in March 2013, so if the phone releases in <1 year, there will be no point for upgrading the memory to 32gb on the N2 since anyone looking to upgrade probably will just wait for the N3.
4.) as said, depends on the #'s of N2's they sell. i don't think this phone will sell extremely well compared to iP5/S3, so i don't see why they would even care about releasing the 32/64 variants since it won't bring in that much extra revenue.
5.) so far, isn't jp and kr the only countries that have different variants in terms of memory? last time i was on the international n2 board, it seems like almost people only had the 16gb version.
6.) vzw sucks
kimdoocheol said:
I wouldn't count on that for a few reasons:
1.) as advertised the msd slot will make it so many people do not have this issue.
2.) i don't know why you think that'll happen around feb. the s3 hasn't had a price drop yet either and that phone has been out approx. 3-4 months. so in feb the note 2 will have been out 3-4 months, so i don't know why they would slash the price just so they can give us a phone with more memory for the same price.
3.) they are already talking about the S4 in March 2013, so if the phone releases in <1 year, there will be no point for upgrading the memory to 32gb on the N2 since anyone looking to upgrade probably will just wait for the N3.
4.) as said, depends on the #'s of N2's they sell. i don't think this phone will sell extremely well compared to iP5/S3, so i don't see why they would even care about releasing the 32/64 variants since it won't bring in that much extra revenue.
5.) so far, isn't jp and kr the only countries that have different variants in terms of memory? last time i was on the international n2 board, it seems like almost people only had the 16gb version.
6.) vzw sucks
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1.) The GS3 has a slot and they still have the options. Onboard ROM is faster and also some people would want the extra storage for music.
2.) I wouldn't be surprised if they lowered it around then due to competitor's phones - and to entice people to buy it that haven't. Just like they are adding color options to the S3. The success of this phone will definitely lead to other manufacturers getting in on the 5.5" scene.
3.) Most people aren't going to wait 6 months or so to upgrade.
4.) They already sold over 3 million before AT&T (and Verizon) got it. This phone is selling more than they expected, I'd bet.
5.) Since they already have the added memory in the GS3, putting it in the Note 2 won't cost much - it's not like they'll have to use anything new.
It shouldn't surprise anyone if a 32GB eventually comes out. I wouldn't wait on it or anything but it's definitely quite possible.
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1.) The GS3 has a slot and they still have the options. Onboard ROM is faster and also some people would want the extra storage for music.
2.) I wouldn't be surprised if they lowered it around then due to competitor's phones - and to entice people to buy it that haven't. Just like they are adding color options to the S3. The success of this phone will definitely lead to other manufacturers getting in on the 5.5" scene.
3.) Most people aren't going to wait 6 months or so to upgrade.
4.) They already sold over 3 million before AT&T (and Verizon) got it. This phone is selling more than they expected, I'd bet.
5.) Since they already have the added memory in the GS3, putting it in the Note 2 won't cost much - it's not like they'll have to use anything new.
It shouldn't surprise anyone if a 32GB eventually comes out. I wouldn't wait on it or anything but it's definitely quite possible.
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1.) gs3 is a lot more marketable. even though we all love n2, most likely will not appeal to the masses. it is like if they made an iP5 that is 5.5", i wouldn't expect it to outsell the iP5.
2.) i would. vzw touts superior coverage + better LTE speeds. they will just say this comes with the territory.
3.) 6 months? who knows when the N3 will be announced. if all goes according to the rumor mill about S4 we could expect that as early as march 2012. if they announced the n3 on the same timeline as the s4 (which obviously i doubt) then i bet many people will wait out for the n3. of course people who don't know may snatch up the note, but i'd bet those people are just up for upgrade and i'm placing my money on more people having upgrades available to them during late q3/early q4 opposed to early q1 where we see a lot less phones being released. obv. companies want to cash in during the holiday season.
4.) still not over >30 mil like the s3. the #'s are good for a phone this size, but then again maybe some people will switch after having a 5.5" phone on next upgrade since there are not many phones available on this size. i think the sweet spot now seems to be around 5"... the n2 is huge in comparison to most phones, even the s3.
5.) like you said, 10 mil sold and the only place you can really pick up a bigger variant is in kr/jp. samsung has advertised it in various nations in various sizes, but there is little to no reason why they advertise it coming in those sizes/not having any stock available. there was a guy who got torn apart in another part of this forum for creating a petition for samsung to release the bigger sized variants. i would say with the expandable memory most people will not care about this. i don't think many people are going to wait to upgrade 3-4 months for a bigger sized variant/it might not be worth it to release it later in terms of sales. it isn't like i said an ip5 or s3 which sell like hotcakes.
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/11/19/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-and-note-2-gain-three-new-colours
not confirmed. it doesn't say us, either. positive step in the right direction though, even though i don't think any carrier in the usa offers the 6 variant colors of the s3
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During the past two weeks I have spoken to two people in upper management at Verizon Wireless regarding the GN2 release. This post is for those that care about the conversation.
Both conversations happened with individuals no further than 3 levels down from the CEO. Keep in mind that many of the same questions were asked or mentioned multiple times and the same answer was not always repeated and thus I had to read between the lines.
Here is what I gathered.
Verizon did not sell the Note 1 (as we know) and was not confident enough that it would work on their network as planned so instead of releasing it when other carriers did, it instead allowed 1) field testers to use it for the past month as they have with much success and 2) allow US Cellular to sell the gray version (to test) since they share many towers.
Realizing the white version is much more popular, US Cellular is not allowed to release it until/after Verizon does (to avoid customers switching to US Cellular). Apparently Verizon and US Cellular share A LOT of towers and if you are in an area without VZLTE, USC may be a better option.
The release is targeted for Christmas shopping and VZ did not see enough demand to warrant releasing it any earlier (ie: prior to Thanksgiving). Given the comment that was made about needing to test the phone, I'm not sure this would have even been an option.
Throughout both calls, both mention that the phone will be released on the 27th and also will be shipped on the 27th but also mentioned that it will be released on the 29th. I purposely did not try to pin down a date since what we have heard is that it will ship by the 27th and release on the 29th. I'm not familiar with Verizon so I'm not sure if a Tuesday release is possible. The Droid DNA is to be released on November 21 so we know Wednesday is an option.
All of this does not help us get our phone any sooner but I ended both conversations felling more aware of why Verizon postponed the release and confident that it will be my next carrier on the 27/29th of November."
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My Desire is starting to feel really outdated due to the tiny amount of internal storage so I'd like to pick up something new. I know there is a Desire HD which looks pretty good, does anyone know if they have a version of it that works with US AT&T 3G (it has to be made for Telstra or Telus since they run the same bands)?
Would you guys recommend the Desire HD? Or would you recommend something else over it? It has to be GSM, work with US AT&T 3G, have lots of internal storage space, and I need to be able to buy it unlocked online. I'm willing to spend about $600 USD or so (but feel free to suggest cheaper phones or more expensive phones if you think I'd like them better).
I'm using a Desire as well.. damn good phone, but yes, its getting very dated, even with running Cm7 and tweaking it to hell for performance lol I'm in canada, but I'm picking up a Galaxy S II next friday. I dont think it's out there yet, but it is due out soon iirc. Id seriously wait for it if you have the money. I've been looking alot, comparing several different phones, but it seems the SGS2 just leads the pack currently, and by quite a bit from the reviews. There are free easy unlock methods online (a couple right on the market) and you can use it on whatever networks you want (our version works across all networks in canada)
I just bought a galaxy s2 from amazon unlocked for 650. It works on att 3g and it's the most future proof phone on three market, but if you hold out you might get a hold of the nexus prime in a couple months. Also if you want something cheaper buy the inspire 4g on ebay or somewhere else. It is the desire hd with att branding and.att.3g bands. Also the development on that phoney is sick. I just sold mine or I would offer it to you for what I sold it for (200).
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^ I'll check out the Inspire. If it's AT&T branded, does that mean they'll have a bunch of useless AT&T links/apps all over, and dev features locked? And will AT&T recognize it as a smart phone (because they don't recognize the Desire as smart phone so I get to use the cheap $15 unlimited internet plan).
To be honest I would like to get an HTC if possible because my last 5 phones have been HTC and I'm basically a fanboy now, lol.
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^ I'll check out the Inspire. If it's AT&T branded, does that mean they'll have a bunch of useless AT&T links/apps all over, and dev features locked? And will AT&T recognize it as a smart phone (because they don't recognize the Desire as smart phone so I get to use the cheap $15 unlimited internet plan).
To be honest I would like to get an HTC if possible because my last 5 phones have been HTC and I'm basically a fanboy now, lol.
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AT&T will recognize it as a smart phone, you should be able to keep your data plan though. Make sure they let you keep your unlimited plan, if the associate can't help ask to talk to a manager, they won't force you to use a limited plan if you already have an unlimited plan. Just make sure you keep the plan cause once it's gone you won't get it back.
The Inspire will come with AT&T crap but that's all easily removed through custom ROM's. The Inspire supports most Desire HD ROM's and visa-a-versa. The Inspire/Desire HD has probably the best developer support of any smart phone, it's a good phone, but the battery is small (1230mAh) and has a huge, battery eating 4.3" display. A lot of people complain about the Inspire's battery life, if you need to make it past a day with moderate usage then stay away from it. Still a good phone though.
I currently have the Atrix 4G and I love it, check it out. The Samsung Galaxy S II looks to be a great phone also.
I'm looking up Inspires on eBay and they're ridiculously cheap (around $300 USD), for example http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Inspire...0600720825?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43a92719b9
Is this right? When I bought my Desire it was around $600, even the Hero was more than 300, I can't believe the Inspire would be so cheap.
Do branded phones have any features locked, such as usb debugging, installation of non-market apps, etc. or can you do all of those things on them? I am one of those people who likes to stick to stock roms if possible, so I can live with a couple of silly AT&T ringtone apps and whatnot but I can't live with important features missing.
The Inspire is rediculously cheap because it is verging on the older side now after being out for a couple of months, and it isn't dual core. As far as I know, the only locked feature on the Inspire was the install unknown sources, but I think they have already allowed that via an ota update.
About your unlimited plan, yes. You will be able to keep it, and if the rep talking to you says that it isn't possible, ask to talk to their manager or just call back for a different rep. The thing is, your $15 Media Net Unlimited plan is not available for smartphones. They will bump you up the the $30 Unlimited Smartphone plan.
I have the Atrix 4G on AT&T's network. I bought it with a contract ($100) but IIRC they are available online unlocked for $400-600. Really great phone: Lightweight, dual-core, and it looks pretty good too. Although I heard the SGSII was the best Android phone to buy nowadays.
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The Inspire is rediculously cheap because it is verging on the older side now after being out for a couple of months, and it isn't dual core. As far as I know, the only locked feature on the Inspire was the install unknown sources, but I think they have already allowed that via an ota update.
About your unlimited plan, yes. You will be able to keep it, and if the rep talking to you says that it isn't possible, ask to talk to their manager or just call back for a different rep. The thing is, your $15 Media Net Unlimited plan is not available for smartphones. They will bump you up the the $30 Unlimited Smartphone plan.
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Hmm, that's not good. So that puts the actual price of the Inspire around $500 (adding in just under 200 for 1 year of the upgraded plan). Right now since the Desire isn't available here I can use it with the cheap plan and still get 3G. Are there any other comparable phones to the Inspire that AT&T doesn't have and that I can run the cheap plan on?
if you can find an unlocked/unbranded xperia play (aka: playstation phone) you should be able to use it on at&t. the only problem is it only has like 350 MegaBytes of internal storage, but it does come with an 8 GigaByte microsd card. it's my current phone (plus it's rooted {and themed with my own custom yellow glow theme}) it's pretty fast, and with root when you delete all the bloatware it gets almost 2 times the battery life . another thing is it isn't dual core (but who gives a crap with playstation controls) heres more info http://www.sonyericsson.com/play/?cc=us&lc=en&cid=sea_xplaylaunch_us_20110206_Google
note: this is MY opinion (never said anybody else agrees). so if you don't agree, go write in your diary or post your disagreeing opinion elsewhere.
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I'd probably also wait for the Nexus Prime.
And you might want to think about that Xiami M1 phone, that is about to come out, you won't find one, that is able to compete price/perfomance.
We'll have to see, how this one actually turns out to be. It it's good, it will at least replayce MY Desire!
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if you can find an unlocked/unbranded xperia play (aka: playstation phone) you should be able to use it on at&t. the only problem is it only has like 350 MegaBytes of internal storage, but it does come with an 8 GigaByte microsd card. it's my current phone (plus it's rooted {and themed with my own custom yellow glow theme}) it's pretty fast, and with root when you delete all the bloatware it gets almost 2 times the battery life . another thing is it isn't dual core (but who gives a crap with playstation controls) heres more info http://www.sonyericsson.com/play/?cc=us&lc=en&cid=sea_xplaylaunch_us_20110206_Google
note: this is MY opinion (never said anybody else agrees). so if you don't agree, go write in your diary or post your disagreeing opinion elsewhere.
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I wouldn't go for the Xperia Play. There's already been talks about it going to AT&T sometime in Q4 2011, and when it does, they'll likely bump you up to a smartphone plan as well. I got caught with the X10. I picked up an unlocked Rogers version a few months before AT&T released it, and the week before it came out, it detected my IMEI and switched me over.
I don't understand the reason why Samsung, like others, launches the higher capacity devices later than the smaller one.
Is this a marketing thing or a production thing?
If it's a marketing thing I don't understand what they gain of it, and if it is a production issue, I can't understand why it so difficult to make different devices at the same time. The difference in the device itself is small and the packaging can't be that hard to differenciate?
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I don't understand the reason why Samsung, like others, launches the higher capacity devices later than the smaller one.
Is this a marketing thing or a production thing?
If it's a marketing thing I don't understand what they gain of it, and if it is a production issue, I can't understand why it so difficult to make different devices at the same time. The difference in the device itself is small and the packaging can't be that hard to differenciate?
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It has to do with the operators.
All the operators offer contracts with a low monthly cost accompanied by high end devices.
When the hype is still high the operators want to commit you for like 2 years with a contract that has a low monthly fee and in order to keep that fee low the device has to be the cheapest possible.
It's rather hard to find cheap contracts with high end devices on their highest capacities. They started doing that with the iPhone and they continue with every brand.
Until the hype is calmed the factories are focusing on production of the cheapest devices because its obvious they are gonna have higher demand(most people dont even know what GigaByte means) since the operators manage to give away good deals with internet and even free calls including the phone.
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It has to do with the operators.
All the operators offer contracts with a low monthly cost accompanied by high end devices.
When the hype is still high the operators want to commit you for like 2 years with a contract that has a low monthly fee and in order to keep that fee low the device has to be the cheapest possible.
It's rather hard to find cheap contracts with high end devices on their highest capacities. They started doing that with the iPhone and they continue with every brand.
Until the hype is calmed the factories are focusing on production of the cheapest devices because its obvious they are gonna have higher demand(most people dont even know what GigaByte means) since the operators manage to give away good deals with internet and even free calls including the phone.
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Thanks, sounds reasonable.
But still, the operators could still offer 16GB with a contract, and operators and others 32/64GB SIM free devices?
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Thanks, sounds reasonable.
But still, the operators could still offer 16GB with a contract, and operators and others 32/64GB SIM free devices?
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I don't think that operator locked devices will have capacities higher than 16GB.
The first wave of phones will mainly be operator locked(hence the contract).
Then the SIM-Free version of 32 and 64 GB will eventually come but right know my guess is that Samsung wants to cover the demand from the operators worldwide first and then move to the unlocked phones.
Either way an android device is unlockable much easier than an iPhone so...
Because probably as always with samsung devices they will never launch 32 and 64gb devices even if they say yes on press releases.
My take is they no people will opt for 32 or 64 so by releasing the 16 first itl help them sell a lot more 16s as people just cant wait and buy just to have
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Vodaphone have exclusive use of 32gb for the first month. I've chosen the 32gb version
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Because probably as always with samsung devices they will never launch 32 and 64gb devices even if they say yes on press releases.
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Hi!
Sadly there seem to be some truth to this statement. Look at the Galaxy Note. It was originally promised available in 16 & 32 gig versions as well. Handtec actually has it "due in soon"
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5587/samsung-galaxy-note--32gb--sim-free-unlocked--blue-
32 Gig SGN has been "due in soon" for a long time. Evidently the term "soon" covers everything between "now" to "never" including both.
What i don´t understand is the reason for making a firm promise when you might end up reconsidering. Wouldn´t it be better to present the product "as is" and state something like "higher capacity devices might follow later".
If i preordered the 32 gig version, waited 3-6 months, and then finally was told that the device wouldn´t be available after all due to "manufacturer reconsidering". I might tend to have eehh-- a somewhat less than positive opinion of said manufacturers truthfullness
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32 Gig SGN has been "due in soon" for a long time. Evidently the term "soon" covers everything between "now" to "never" including both.
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I was under the impression that the 32GB international version of SGN had been officially cancelled? I remember reading that on several sites a few months back... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22528962&postcount=92
I won't settle for less than 32gb, 16 is to little
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I was under the impression that the 32GB international version of SGN had been officially cancelled? I remember reading that on several sites a few months back... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22528962&postcount=92
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I hadn´t seen that but it might very well be true. This illuminates the "meat of the matter" Samsung proudly annunces a 32 GB version at the original product presentation and then cancels somewhere "down the road".
Sadly this behavior is self-amplifying. Look at the SGSIII. why would you want to wait for a 32/64 GB version when you can be fairly sure it´ll never hit the shelves anyway, regardless of nice and pretty promises at the presentation. Subsequently if sales statistics show that the market is saturated with the 16 GB version because the potential customers knew the 32/64 GB versions were "made of hot air", then there is no feasible basis for production and Samsung "regrettably cancelles - so sorry".
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I hadn´t seen that but it might very well be true. This illuminates the "meat of the matter" Samsung proudly annunces a 32 GB version at the original product presentation and then cancels somewhere "down the road".
Sadly this behavior is self-amplifying. Look at the SGSIII. why would you want to wait for a 32/64 GB version when you can be fairly sure it´ll never hit the shelves anyway, regardless of nice and pretty promises at the presentation. Subsequently if sales statistics show that the market is saturated with the 16 GB version because the potential customers knew the 32/64 GB versions were "made of hot air", then there is no feasible basis for production and Samsung "regrettably cancelles - so sorry".
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I know, it really sucks and is annoying. I ordered the 16GB version because I just can't wait. I guess the 32GB will be a Vodafone exclusive and then after that there will be 32GB unbrandeds on the way, but nobody knows when...
I've bought a 64GB SDXC so 16GB should be enough. I don't listen to music using my phone anyway, I have a separate player for that.
I'm guessing that the 64GB version of the SGS3 might pop up sooner or later (my money is on later) and my personal guess is that when/if it is released, it will come in black. I'm not holding my breath though, and I'm definitely not waiting for it. I don't think very many will wait for it, and I think Samsung knows that, and to me it feels like the risk of them cancelling it is pretty big.
So I'm switching to T-Mo hopefully within a couple of weeks, and I really like the S3 and the One S. I like the S3 more, but I don't know if it's worth the extra $130. Opinions?
The SGS3 is for sure worth it. Fantastic phone!!
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So I'm switching to T-Mo hopefully within a couple of weeks, and I really like the S3 and the One S. I like the S3 more, but I don't know if it's worth the extra $130. Opinions?
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If you're cost conscious, get the Galaxy Nexus for $350 from Play with t-mobile's $30/month, 100 minute 5GB prepaid plan (supplementing the 100 minutes with a google voice caller like groove ip). Over the course of two years, the lower plan cost would save you approximately $1000 (assuming that you would've otherwise gotten an $80 plan, not unrealistic including taxes).
Why the Galaxy Nexus? Because it's pentaband. Unfortunately the unlocked versions of the S3 and One X don't support t-mobile's frequencies as far as I know. You could buy the t-mobile version up front, but you'll eat an extra $300 that way for a phone that won't even work with any other carriers if you change your mind. You'd still save $700ish, but it's hardly ideal.
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If you're cost conscious, get the Galaxy Nexus for $350 from Play with t-mobile's $30/month, 100 minute 5GB prepaid plan (supplementing the 100 minutes with a google voice caller like groove ip). Over the course of two years, the lower plan cost would save you approximately $1000 (assuming that you would've otherwise gotten an $80 plan, not unrealistic including taxes).
Why the Galaxy Nexus? Because it's pentaband. Unfortunately the unlocked versions of the S3 and One X don't support t-mobile's frequencies as far as I know. You could buy the t-mobile version up front, but you'll eat an extra $300 that way for a phone that won't even work with any other carriers if you change your mind. You'd still save $700ish, but it's hardly ideal.
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I own a One S and have used an S3. My opinion is that the S3 is only superior in its display. Speed-wise, the S3 and One S are neck and neck. Some tests even show the One S beating out the S3.
At the speeds these phones are at, you won't notice a difference in the overall experience between the 2. However, most people tend to get the S3, since it's the newer phone and has the nicer screen. I personally chose the One S since its screen is only 4.3 inches, which makes it much more comfortable to hold.
Either way, you can't go wrong. Both have good mod support and plenty of ROMs that range from modded stock ROMs, all the way to CM10/AOKP/AOSP roms.
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I'm waiting for the Two hah
Seriously though non-expandable memory kinda kills it for me on the One S and reading the display isn't as sharp as the s3 is a deal breaker for me. One S with non-removable battery cover? Sealed? Ugh what a nightmare..
my answer is different.
if you have big hands or like touchwiz, then use gs3, BUT if you don't have that big of hands(me), or like sense 4(me), then use one s as that is smaller
and even though gs3 has removable storage, it still cannot be used as ext. so all the people you hear saying that sd card is good, I have just shot down half their aurgument
so if you buy an 8 gig galaxy s 3, you actually have less storage space than a one s as you 64 gb SD card is useless except for games and movies
so recap: if you has big hands then get galaxy s 3, if you has small hands get one s
or be me and wait for htc one x+
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my answer is different.
if you have big hands or like touchwiz, then use gs3, BUT if you don't have that big of hands(me), or like sense 4(me), then use one s as that is smaller
and even though gs3 has removable storage, it still cannot be used as ext. so all the people you hear saying that sd card is good, I have just shot down half their aurgument
so if you buy an 8 gig galaxy s 3, you actually have less storage space than a one s as you 64 gb SD card is useless except for games and movies
so recap: if you has big hands then get galaxy s 3, if you has small hands get one s
or be me and wait for htc one x+
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an external sd can also be used as swap partition serving as more ram. you can also install your apps on the sd card instead of internal memory. s3 is probably the best phone out there so far.
S3!!! HTC uses cheap material, i had the HTC G2 and thats my last!
I have only ever owned HTC smartphones, from the original WinMo 6 Touch through my most recent Thunderbolt. Its upgrade time and I'm basically trying to figure out whether staying with HTC is an option for me.
The problem is that one of my major use cases is on airplanes. I need at a minimum to have a couple 1080p movies, 2-3 ebooks and 3-4 3hr+ playlists locally my phone, so 16GB non-expandable is tough for me. Google Music/Amazon Video/Netflix are awesome, but useless without network connections. On the flip side, I have unlimited data so not worried about keeping everything in the cloud otherwise. Also, I had a Thunderbolt and even with the extended battery I would often get off a plane with <20% battery, and with this phone switching to another fully charged battery isn't really an option. Finally, using my Gingerbread Thunderbolt, I have no faith in HTC updating even flagship phones, which undermines the S4 processor/screen is more future-proof argument.
The major upside of this phone for me is price (vs. the Note II, I would buy unlocked so $100 isn't a huge difference but hey), perfect screen size with lots of real estate but one-handed operation (moreso since I do not carry or use a tablet although I have an iPad), my level of comfort with HTC and the developer community (unlocked bootloader!), and build quality (but not design).
What I'm worried about is that there is no way out with this phone. The shortcomings of the Thunderbolt could be fixed via extended battery and by flashing custom/leaked ROMs.
I know this isn't exactly addressing your issues with the DNA but have you ever thought about investing in a tablet? It seems to me that if you need a portable device to watch multiple videos, read books and listen to music for long lengths of time, the Nexus 7 or maybe 10 would be a better way to go than a phone.
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I know this isn't exactly addressing your issues with the DNA but have you ever thought about investing in a tablet? It seems to me that if you need a portable device to watch multiple videos, read books and listen to music for long lengths of time, the Nexus 7 or maybe 10 would be a better way to go than a phone.
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That's a great suggestion. Getting a Nexus 7 for couch-surfing duties did wonders for my LTE GNex's daily battery life, and I expect it to be a huge asset on cross-country flights as well.
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That's a great suggestion. Getting a Nexus 7 for couch-surfing duties did wonders for my LTE GNex's daily battery life, and I expect it to be a huge asset on cross-country flights as well.
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I seriously thought about getting a tablet (Nexus 4+7 works out cheaper than a Note 2), but generally walk around NYC and don't carry a briefcase. I've always been a bit of a minimalist, which is why I am interested in these phablets in the first place (the screen is large enough to read PDFs and ebooks with ease and nice for video viewing).
I don't carry a 2nd blackberry or anything, so I actually will be using this phone to make phone calls, which is an argument for going Nexus 4+7 instead of the oversized DNA or Note 2. On the other hand, Jawbone makes very nice Bluetooth headsets. I also have such a favorable Verizon contract ($60/month for unlimited data and more minutes and text than I have ever used), that I don't want to switch, especially given how nice it is to have LTE when I end up in places like Milwaukee overnight with useless hotel internet.
The DNA may support OTG mode, what does that mean, with a small adapter you can attach a flash/thumb/usb drive to your phone, you'll be able to stream from this as well. The cables can be as short or long as you want and these would be easily portable. I say MAY because no one seems to know, it's not official but some have gotten it to work
on the flip side, if you're having problems with battery life, an external battery also works, I have one that is about the size of 2 of my fingers put together and it has a 5600mA battery, of course you can't use the USB port for keeping stuff on the phone, but maybe charge it afterwards or while watching a movie that is on your phone perhaps? (alternating between the two)
Some thing like this should solve your battery problems
http://www.brookstone.com/mobile-2600-mah-charger?bkiid=SubCategory_Travel_Batteries_External_Cell_Phone_Battery_Chargers|SubCategoryWidget|802209p&catId=
I'd go to another carrier store and ask to hold a note 2. It's probably the better phone for you imo, unless it doesn't feel comfortable in your hand. If it doesn't and you don't play 3D roaming games nor care too much about the camera, I'd look get a Razr Maxx HD. Plugging the phone into a portable charger is just annoying and you may not see any performance difference with what you do anyways.
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empiremaster23 said:
On the flip side, I have unlimited data so not worried about keeping everything in the cloud otherwise.
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I was just wanting to know how you could upgrade to a new phone without losing the unlimited data. I too have the Thunderbolt and am planning on upgrading to the DNA, so how could I stick with my unlimited data? Thanks
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I was just wanting to know how you could upgrade to a new phone without losing the unlimited data. I too have the Thunderbolt and am planning on upgrading to the DNA, so how could I stick with my unlimited data? Thanks
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he stated that he is buying the phone off contract. Doesn't really matter, sounds like Verizon is going to force off contract users off of unlimited data soon enough...
Then those that bought devices off contract to keep it will be all sorts of pissed off.
Why in the world do you need 1080p movies for a 5" screen?
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Why in the world do you need 1080p movies for a 5" screen?
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Need and want can be 2 different things.
For your specific needs, I guess I don't see the DNA being ideal. Between storage and battery life just doesn't seem like a winner. The Screen on the Note II sounds to be very good, and will probably be better all around otherwise if you're comfortable with its size.
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he stated that he is buying the phone off contract. Doesn't really matter, sounds like Verizon is going to force off contract users off of unlimited data soon enough...
Then those that bought devices off contract to keep it will be all sorts of pissed off.
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Yeah, this is why I'm just giving up my unlimited data. Even if they didn't I'd have to use a ton of data to justify paying $400 more for a phone I'll probably upgrade again in a couple years. Right now I only use about 200MB/month and I'm sure I'll use more with a faster 4G phone but I doubt it will be that much more - not enough to justify the money.
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he stated that he is buying the phone off contract. Doesn't really matter, sounds like Verizon is going to force off contract users off of unlimited data soon enough...
Then those that bought devices off contract to keep it will be all sorts of pissed off.
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Do you have any source for your information. I am planning to buy off contract as well.
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Do you have any source for your information. I am planning to buy off contract as well.
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Verizon hasn't said anything, but they also said that anyone with unlimited data would be grandfathered in and be able to upgrade on contract permanently without losing it. Look how long that lasted, and there's nothing stopping them from forcing users with off contract unlimited data to a different plan.
Then again, they are getting a lot more money out of people buying off contract since they are still paying the same price for a plan that was meant to make up for the lowered phone prices. But I still think they are going to pull it.
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Do you have any source for your information. I am planning to buy off contract as well.
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There have been multiple rumors since they changed the rules this summer. Come summer of 2014, no one will be left on contract with unlimited. Had a Verizon rep tell my wife that changes are coming next April. I might wait until then to get new phones.
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Coming from the T-bolt, you will likely be AMAZED. (my $.02).
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Verizon hasn't said anything, but they also said that anyone with unlimited data would be grandfathered in and be able to upgrade on contract permanently without losing it. Look how long that lasted, and there's nothing stopping them from forcing users with off contract unlimited data to a different plan.
Then again, they are getting a lot more money out of people buying off contract since they are still paying the same price for a plan that was meant to make up for the lowered phone prices. But I still think they are going to pull it.
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From a cash flow perspective, having people buy off-contract phones is amazing for phone companies, since it takes them well over a year+ to make money on customers when they upgrade (more for heavily subsidized devices like iPhones, less for mid-range androids and feature phones). Verizon needs cash right now to dividend out and build their network, so I wouldn't be surprised if they continue to allow unlimited data for at least another product cycle (July 2013).
I'm going to AT&T and seeing if I can use the Note 2. If I can, I think that is the phone for me.
Thunderbolt is basically useless now without ICS. Mine lags for minutes when I make an outgoing call and often the keyboard freezes and needs a reset before it works again (stock ROM). It got bad enough that when I travel I switch service to a Droid 3 I have lying around.
My contract has been up. I'm having trouble justifying an upgrade on my phone. The I777 seems to be working for me. I don't have any need for more processing or memory. Curious: what apps do y'all use that requires more than our dual core processor? I'm wondering if I'm missing something?
I'm using SHOstock3 4.0 and no hiccups, plenty of speed. Battery is not an issue as I carry an extra battery and usually in a place where I can charge. I just feel like I have everything set the way I want. Again, I'm wondering what I may be missing?
I also sort of have the option to switch carriers. ATT data plans are ridiculous. 300mb for $20.00 a month is not cutting it. My son (also has I77) on my plan goes over on the data about every month and I had to put a "smart limits" for an extra $5.00 per month (should be free for this!) I travel with my job and often in other countries so I kinda need a GSM phone as many other countries do not even use CDMA. But my goal is to try and get my bill lower. I will not pay more.
If I do upgrade; so far the S4 is in the lead. But I do know I want a phone that has a removable battery and memory card slot. I will not compromise on this.
I really hate these decisions!!! I always have done 2 yr. contracts (I hate contracts, but it's the cheapest way) and whatever one decides on a phone upgrade; your stuck for 2 years!
Think about holding out for the S5. I'm also curious about the Moto G.
What am I leaving out of my thought process?