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So since Sprint makes it far too easy to return these things before 30 days is up... the question is keep or return. I like it. I just am getting a bit concerned I will like it for 2 years!
I hear conflicting info/opinions in regards to a v3.2 upgrade. I also am having issues with certain apps just not working (HBO GO, certain games not using the screen real estate because of bad programming).
So the general question is... if all of you ahd the option to keep or return... what would you do? Should I return and get Puccini? Its a question I ask daily.
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Its a question I ask daily.
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Do you get answers daily?
Seriously, there are already several threads exactly like this.
If you are going to have buyers remorse every time there a "new model of the year", you may as well not buy anything, because that is always going to happen. Its the treadmill of technology.
If, on the other hand, you want to use an awesome device NOW instead of waiting around for an upcoming device that does not even have a release date, then keep the View.
Besides, have you used any Honeycomb tablets? They are all disappointingly laggy compared to the Flyer. HC has some nice features, but Gingerbread is faster and smoother. I'm not so sure I want HC on my Flyer, at least not in its present state.
Also the 7" form factor versus the 10" one is a completely different feel. The 10" ones are much heavier and much less portable. Check some out at the store, to see if you even like them. More screen real estate can be nice for couch surfing. But for portability, the Flyer is superior. Personally, I also tend to prefer the smaller form factor for general use, which is very easy to hold with one hand. But its largely a matter of personal taste and preference.
I actually looked and didn't really see what I was looking for which is I why I asked. The reason I got it was BECAUSE of the 7 inch size which I find much better than 10 inch.
My biggest issue has been the applications either missing (netflix (sideloaded), facebook) or not working (hbo go, some games).
All in all I like it. I think $399 is a good deal for it considering it has the wifi/3g/4g & pen input (a major plus) & 32gig of space.
Just wanted to make sure there wasn't somethign I was missing. I've checked on HTC Flyer forums across the net and most of them (except this one) seem pretty dead... which was a bit of a scare as well.
These threads are a bit old, but contain plenty of arguments for keeping the View/Flyer which may set your mind at ease:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109074&highlight=galaxy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1165803
And honestly, I would not even worry about keeping the device for 2 years. I personally seem to be on a 1 year cycle with smartphones, and other folks on here buy phones much more frequently than that. I'm probably going to plan on a similar 1-year cycle with my tablet. Heck, some people upgrade devices as often as they change underwear!
I've never tried to get out of a Sprint contract with a year left on the contract. Maybe its easier than I assume.
So, it's not so much whether or not you like the Flyer, but whether you want that 2 year contract? I'd be with you on that. Perhaps return it and buy a Wi-Fi only unit?
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So, it's not so much whether or not you like the Flyer, but whether you want that 2 year contract? I'd be with you on that. Perhaps return it and buy a Wi-Fi only unit?
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Good point. I do like the 3g enabled part, though. That's one of the main things I like about the iPad... 3g without a contract.
Buy a WiFi Flyer and activate tethering on your phone.
Starting today, Sprint customers have the option to pay for data access on the Sprint 3G and 4G networks using the HTC EVO View tablet by the day, week or month with no long-term contract. Customers can choose the 3G/4G Day, Week or Month pass that fits their needs:
Day: $14.99 for 150 MB of on-network usage in a 24-hour period (includes 50 MB off-network roaming usage)
Week: $29.99 for 500 MB of on-network usage in a 7-day period (includes 100 MB off-network roaming usage)
Month: $49.99 for 1.5 GB of usage in a 30-day period (includes 150 MB off-network roaming usage)
These options are available for both businesses and consumers.
And there are no overage charges to worry about. Once you hit your data limit, or the end of your day, week or month, the data access automatically turns off.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/community/sprintblogs/announcements/blog/2011/08/22/get-sprint-3g4g-access-for-a-day-week-or-month-with-no-long-term-contract-on-htc-evo-view
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Starting today, Sprint customers have the option to pay for data access on the Sprint 3G and 4G networks using the HTC EVO View tablet by the day, week or month with no long-term contract. Customers can choose the 3G/4G Day, Week or Month pass that fits their needs:
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In that case, $399 for an Evo View isn't a bad deal, seeing as how you don't ever have to actually use the data plan if you don't want.
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I've never tried to get out of a Sprint contract with a year left on the contract. Maybe its easier than I assume.
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I never said anything about getting out of any contracts. I was thinking you can someday upgrade to another Sprint device and pay full the unsubsidized price for it, and keep the existing contract. Or buy a device from a 3rd party, if Sprint will let you switch service to that device. Not sure how WiMax works on Sprint. I'm used to the GSM/HSPA phone service I have on AT&T. I can buy a phone anywhere, as long as its compatible with AT&T's network and unlocked; and just slip my SIM into it and use it on my existing contract.
I think the main point is how you want to use your tablet. You want to use it at home or outdoor, on the go? Do you prefer mobility over big screen or in another word do you want to carry a bag for your tablet all the time you are out or not?
I bought the Flyer because I like the 7 inch size portability ( I had an Archos 70 IT). I would like to use the tablet for ebook reading, web surfing, stylus sometimes for taking notes and diagrams at work, ... Right now, Dual core is not really effective and Honeycomb might look a bit nicer than GB but the performance is worse. HTC also promised to update the Flyer to Honeycomb later, which I would expect in next 2-3 months.
In your case, because you are thinking about buying a 3G version tablets, I guess you would like to use it a lot on the go. So it seems that 7 inch tablets suit you better.
Technology is developing very fast. You will never know what will come out in 2 years time. So it's better to know what to expect from your tablet in +-1 year. Then you probably won't be very much disappointed.
Nomophobia, as in "No mobile phone phobia!" I found this article interesting because, 1. Its definately me. 2. The one chick checks her phone 50 times a day? Please, Im triple that easy!!!!90% of the time im awake, Im on my phone! News, Facebook, bank, XDA, text, 401K, ZumoCast to my home computer, Playstation Network! I can go on forever!
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...our-cellphone-nomophobia-on-the-rise#comments
yep, i got it. and it drags me away from my PC more and more every day as they become more powerful. i mean really, there is not much technology out there that is more handy then a smartphone. i cant read the news for hours on less then 2000mAh on my laptop, but i can on my phone!
and 50 times... i get more then 100 text messages a day, plus 30-50 emails, then phones calls and internet surfing... yeah i def beat her mark of 50. i use my phone as my clock, it would be interesting to see how many times i do turn my screen on. im guessing id be well over 400.
@lroy, I'm probally in the 400+ range also. And speaking of computer, I was just telling guest Sunday, I could not tell you the last time I physically sat at my desk at home or moved that laptop off the coffee table. (She asked could she have it!). The only reason my desktop is powered on is I use ZumoCast when I'm out to access it! Hell, I even program my cable box when I want to see something and I know I will not make it home!
I wanted to bring this back to the front. Last week a friend mentioned she could not take pictures, I replaced 2Gb Card with 16Gb Card for $19.99. Same friend came over and told me she could not send text, told her to delete all of them, fixed! She just now called and asked if her daughter can come over Saturday and I replace her card like I did hers..........This got me to thinking, over the last month or so, I have helped 8+ people with something or another. If your not going to use the features of the smartphone, why spend $600.00? You can still look cool and spend alot less money? And Im not talking about rooting or unlocking, I'm talking about simple, everyday life things to make life simple in which the device was made for?
1. Most of these people did not even know Bank of America had an app to check your bank account? (Members1st Credit Union either?)
2. None knew that you can program your Comcast DVR from your phone?
3. All thought you had to pay $29.99 for hotspot?
4. None knew about Google Music?
5. I tell people about Douphin Browser and they look at me like Im crazy?
6. No one, including my boss who is IT manger knew about Nexflix on smartphone?
Maybe it's me being anal, but you would not get at $2000.00 TV and not know how to use it right? and look at all the phones coming to market now, bigger, faster, larger, etc............. Again, just me!
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Maybe it's me being anal, but you would not get at $2000.00 TV and not know how to use it right?
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That's US carrier subsidies for you!
Carrier subsidies have f^@k*! up the entire system; $600-$700 devices being sold for $200 or less. People don't value smartphones at all.
Think of it, in reality smartphones cost more than most laptops, televisions and audio equipment etc.
Do people upgrade their TVs every year or two? Heck no! But carrier subsidies allow us to buy brand new phones for $200 every 2 years. And in case of Android phones, wait for 6-to-10 months and some models can be had for $100 or even close to free. Who doesn't like that?
And in turn to make their money, these carriers make us sign contracts and buy expensive data plans even if we don't want to.
I don't know of any other country in the world where they make you buy a data plan if you want to run a smartphone on their network.
You simply buy a phone and buy a plan, that's how it should work.
Lots of people I know in other countries have bought their own phones and run it with a simple voice-only plan. If they need data they pay only for what they use. No $40 data plan forced upon them. I wish our major carriers would adopt this policy.
Heck, I will leave Sprint if something doesn't change soon.
I've been with them for 10 years now and paying $80/month for ****ty service.
I'm waiting to see how its LTE network turns out before resigning any contracts.
DH can $uck it with his unlimited plans!
Ok....rant over! Taking a deep breath now....!
OK, My OP was NOT about data plans and contracts (althought you have some truth), I know people that have had their phone for over 10 years, he** I lost a bet because co-worker has flip Sprint phone with SIM card. That said, it is/was about people buying $600.00+ phones to take pictures and text, PERIOD!!! you can get a free phone for that. If your not going to utilize your smartphone with all it can do, why get it?
As for Data Plans, I have been to..........23 countries in the last 5 years. I took AT&T Tilt, flashed it, VodoPhone SIM from Airport, I'm good. I really only used data twice a day for a few minutes if that. But yes, phone only for your used minutes and what data you uses is subtracted from your minutes, no biggie. But also remember, they don't get the $100.00 up front and 2-year contract, they pay full then pick a plan. (For the record, no matter what phone I had, its not working in South Korea with WCDMA!)
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OK, My OP was NOT about data plans and contracts (althought you have some truth), That said, it is/was about people buying $600.00+ phones to take pictures and text, PERIOD!!! you can get a free phone for that. If your not going to utilize your smartphone with all it can do, why get it?
As for Data Plans, I have been to..........23 countries in the last 5 years. I took AT&T Tilt, flashed it, VodoPhone SIM from Airport, I'm good. I really only used data twice a day for a few minutes if that. But yes, phone only for your used minutes and what data you uses is subtracted from your minutes, no biggie. But also remember, they don't get the $100.00 up front and 2-year contract, they pay full then pick a plan. (For the record, no matter what phone I had, its not working in South Korea with WCDMA!)
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Yeah, sorry about that, didn't mean to hijack your thread.
I would gladly buy my phone at full price if they allowed me the freedom of choosing my plan. But they don't. So I end up paying $100-$200 for the phone and then $1800 over the next 24 months in service charges.
I check my phone for email several times a day (definitely less than 50) but I am an average user with regards to every day usage.
I am around Wi-Fi 95% of the time and so are most users, so I don't need or want their ($hitty & spotty) internet service.
My gripe is this: keep the unlimited plans for those who want it but allow those who don't want it to buy a cheaper plan.
The other thing that really p!$$#$ me off is the iPhone!
As everyone well knows, subsidies are the highest for the iPhones. And where do carriers recover their money, in the plans and contracts. I hate it that I pay money for services that I can never fully utilize so that others can have their iPhones. If iPhones were sold at retail without subsidies, we wouldn't have all the iDiots!
Coming back to your original topic: I'm definitely addicted. I need my phone and check it regularly for email, messages, clock, workouts etc.
I'm hooked and can't live without it now.
Has anyone heard of the 32 or 64gb coming to Verizon?
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Has anyone heard of the 32 or 64gb coming to Verizon?
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Why do you need one?
SD card is always cheaper.
I agree, I want something bigger than 16gb (10 usable) as well
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Why do you need one?
SD card is always cheaper.
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Does it matter? There are a variety of reasons someone would want more than 16gb internal. Even with the extra 64gb, I am pretty sure I will max mine out almost instantly when I get it. Some people use more memory than others.
And no, no word on the 32gb model yet.
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Does it matter? There are a variety of reasons someone would want more than 16gb internal. Even with the extra 64gb, I am pretty sure I will max mine out almost instantly when I get it. Some people use more memory than others.
And no, no word on the 32gb model yet.
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64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
computingwarren said:
64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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Yes, I have tons of data, including files needed for school, work, entertainment since I'm gone almost all day, every day.
50gb of dropbox data is nice, but I like to be able to always access the files physically on my device. Additionally, I have tons of data and this is barely 1% of what I have. Also, for obvious reasons, it is better to have apps installed on the internal opposed to the SD, but 10gb is not that much. The point is Samsung/or the carriers should have delivered on this. Aside from KR and JP, it doesn't seem like any one else got the 64gb version. If that is the case, Samsung may as well say they have a 1tb version of the phone.
I have a macbook ultra, as well, but loathe lugging it around all day. Sometimes it is just nice to have one device that does it all without having to constantly hook it up to the computer, delete files, etc. etc. Aside from that, I don't really question how others use their phone, but can see the need for more data. I know I wouldn't be a [email protected]@ss and tell others to reevaulate their phone usage, though, especially when Samsung makes variants with more available data.
The Verizon Rep said that Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon, like with other USA carriers, will be only 16gb internal storage for right now.
But I do agree that these devices are our computers on the go. So even with 16/32gb SD card the 16gb internal storage is really not much when you see it that way.
Why Samsung thinks that Americans only want 16gbs of internal storage? I don't know. But the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is still the most awesome device at this point in time. Just which service provider do I want (stay with Verizon or go for T-Mobile?).?
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64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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If you use 50gb or more per month on Verizon to access that 50gb Dropbox your bill will be sky high. Until we truly get true unlimited data, data storage within your device/s becomes vital. I understand that you have SD card. But system internal memory is much faster. That is where you want as much data for your apps to be. So the more internal memory the less of a need for your apps to store its data within your SD card and the faster the apps can get to its own data. This allowing you to use your SD card space to store music, podcasts, videos, documents, etc. This way you won't have such of a high bill accessing your data in the cloud.
When it comes to rethinking the usage and needs of any PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer aka Smartphone, I don't see limiting the usage with the device but I see using the device to benefit me. These devices are really PPC aka Pocket Personal Computers with both cellular and WiFi radios. So why not use these devices as a Pocket Personal Computer? A computer you can listen to music, Internet radio, podcasts, watch videos, video podcasts, create and edit documents, manage your daily life, communicate and keep up with other people, give your self a relaxing break, store your data, and so on... So why not use your PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer the same way? The only difference is that your PPC is a mobile device with cellular radio that is with you at all times and is smaller. Smaller size and having a cellular radio (for voice and data) allows the computer device to be mobile for you. And having a mobile Pocket Personal Computer allows you to manage your life and do the other stuff on the go where you need and want them. That making these Pocket Personal Computer devices even more important to have the local space for your stuff and for the applications' data.
I would have to say to you "Rethink what these Android devices really are and what you can do with them having more data storage space, including more internal memory space." And don't be fooled by the fact that these devices have cellular radio. They are really Pocket Personal Computers aka PPC. I personally feel that Samsung Galaxy Note 2's features really makes that point clear.
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The Verizon Rep said that Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon, like with other USA carriers, will be only 16gb internal memory for right now.
But I do agree that these devices are our computers on the go. So even with 16/32gb SD card the 16gb internal memory is really not much when you see it that way.
Why Samsung thinks that Americans only want 16gbs of internal memory? I don't know. But the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is still the most awesome device at this point in time. Just which service provider do I want (stay with Verizon or go for T-Mobile?).?
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If you use 50gb or more per month on Verizon to access that 50gb Dropbox your bill will be sky high. Until we truly get true unlimited data, data storage within your device/s becomes vital. I understand that you have SD card. But system internal memory is much faster. That is where you want as much data for your apps to be. So the more internal memory the less of a need for your apps to store its data within your SD card and the faster the apps can get to its own data. This allowing you to use your SD card space to store music, podcasts, videos, documents, etc. This way you won't have such of a high bill accessing your data in the cloud.
When it comes to rethinking the usage and needs of any PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer aka Smartphone, I don't see limiting the usage with the device but I see using the device to benefit me. These devices are really PPC aka Pocket Personal Computers with both cellular and WiFi radios. So why not use these devices as a Pocket Personal Computer? A computer you can listen to music, Internet radio, podcasts, watch videos, video podcasts, create and edit documents, manage your daily life, communicate and keep up with other people, give your self a relaxing break, store your data, and so on... So why not use your PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer the same way? The only difference is that your PPC is a mobile device with cellular radio that is with you at all times and is smaller. Smaller size allows the computer device to be mobile for you. And having a mobile Pocket Personal Computer allows you to manage your life and do the other stuff on the go where you need and want them. That making these Pocket Personal Computer devices even more important to have the local space for your stuff and for the applications' data.
I would have to say to you "Rethink what these Android devices really are and what you can do with them having more data storage space, including more internal memory space." And don't be fooled by the fact that these devices have cellular radio. They are really Pocket Personal Computers aka PPC. I personally feel that Samsung Galaxy Note 2's features really makes that point clear.
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Alright everywhere has wifi now. Why use 4G LTE when it drains the battery and really isn't anything special. Maybe when you're on the road and can't access it, or if you don't have wifi at home. Not everyone is going to use their data on accessing that dropbox,
I never go over 2-3gb and i'm constant checking email, facebook, netflix, etc. On and off data.
Maybe it's just me, but i dont see how people use so much data or space.
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Alright everywhere has wifi now. Why use 4G LTE when it drains the battery and really isn't anything special. Maybe when you're on the road and can't access it, or if you don't have wifi at home. Not everyone is going to use their data on accessing that dropbox,
I never go over 2-3gb and i'm constant checking email, facebook, netflix, etc. On and off data.
Maybe it's just me, but i dont see how people use so much data or space.
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Because there are people on the go. That means that you are not at home at your WiFi or sitting at the Cafe shop w/ WiFi. And most work places don't allow to use their WiFi, if they have it. That is the reason for the cellular radio to have access to voice and data where & when you need and want it. These device are not for people that stay at home. That is what tablets are for. These PPC devices are for the busy people on the go. That is where you need and want the data and other stuff when you want it without having to pay the large bill to access it. That is where large local data storage on the PPC devices becomes valuable and vital.
If you are just using the device to check email, facebook and watch netflix only, then why use such a powerful productivity and power user device as the Gallaxy Note 2? The features of this device is really designed for the busy people on the go, heavy business users, gamers, heavy media users, artist types, and for the geeks (basically for the power users).
This is where I find the divide between the casual users and the power users. Casual users don't really do anything with their device that they couldn't do with a feature phone. This makes PPC aka Smartphone a true waste for the casual user. While the power users really need the storage space and functionality of the PPC aka Smartphone devices. Another issue is calling Pocket Personal Computers as "Smartphone" devices. Microsoft was trying to compete with Apple's, back then as the new, iPhone. So Microsoft came up with the term "Smartphone" to dumb down the cellular Pocket Personal Computers to be more marketable to the casual user as a more friendly device. That was the big mistake that caused people to think of these devices as more of a "phone" than a computer. This also causes this same divide in the current world of Android.
There are number of true power users that need the functionality, large storage, high CPU power, large RAM, and the power of having a true computer in their hands at all times to need the PPC device. And there are a much larger number of casual users that don't need the PPC devices, more of a feature phone types, that uses PPC devices because they cooler to use. Those casual users are the ones that bring the sales higher, but still can't relate to the power users. This is the same story with laptop and desktop computers.
But just understand what you are holding is really a computer and not just a phone with features.
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Does it matter? There are a variety of reasons someone would want more than 16gb internal. Even with the extra 64gb, I am pretty sure I will max mine out almost instantly when I get it. Some people use more memory than others.
And no, no word on the 32gb model yet.
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I agree. I'm worried that as soon as I start downloading all of my apps, I will be out of storage. On my 16GB Nexus 7, I couldn't download all of the apps that I have on my Galaxy Nexus before I got a low storage warning. I have the basic apps I use daily, and then several games that are rather large. I don't like being limited by the storage, but there is supposedly a work around that can switch the internal memory to the SD card memory so that storage isn't an issue.
The only thing I've heard about the 32GB and 64GB is that Verizon will most likely not sell those versions unless the 16GB versions sales warrant adding those models. However, that could just be rumor. I doubt that if they do decide to release those versions, it wont be any time before the New Year.
I ask because I'm trading up from a 32gb gs3. I just don't want to feel like a step back. I know I could not be lazy and move rom files and stuff to the 64gb card I have but I can't help but feel it's a step back... Blah.
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thanx for the info guys =)
computingwarren said:
64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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No, there isn't. Verizon and AT&T's Note 2s won't get the dropbox promotion.
https://www.dropbox.com/help/297/en
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No, there isn't. Verizon and AT&T's Note 2s won't get the dropbox promotion.
https://www.dropbox.com/help/297/en
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Someone said on another forum that they have AT&T and got the free Dropbox promotion.
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Someone said on another forum that they have AT&T and got the free Dropbox promotion.
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Once rooted, it may just be a build.prop edit, really.. The free space stays afterwards anyway.
I had a Tmo Note 2 for a week, canceled the service and returned the phone due to service issues, and still have the space.
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I don't load up that many Apps for 16gigs to be a concern. The only time I run into problems is when I want to load up a 4gig plus movie on my Nexus 7. With the Note 2 sd card slot the majority of people will not have this issue.
Plus I don't see a $400 Note 2 32gig being a big seller on Verizon. $300 is the max I would pay right now.
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Once rooted, it may just be a build.prop edit, really.. The free space stays afterwards anyway.
I had a Tmo Note 2 for a week, canceled the service and returned the phone due to service issues, and still have the space.
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I'm already so tempted to take out a Sprint Note 2 without the intention of keeping it or the service - don't give me more reasons to do it. lol
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Plus I don't see a $400 Note 2 32gig being a big seller on Verizon. $300 is the max I would pay right now.
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I'm sure they'll bring one out eventually and lower the price of the current Note 2 when they do. My guess is it will be $250/$300 and happen around February, but it's just a guess.
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I don't load up that many Apps for 16gigs to be a concern. The only time I run into problems is when I want to load up a 4gig plus movie on my Nexus 7. With the Note 2 sd card slot the majority of people will not have this issue.
Plus I don't see a $400 Note 2 32gig being a big seller on Verizon. $300 is the max I would pay right now.
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It isn't an Apple product, lol. I would expect the 16gb only to be $50 more. 349.99 which imo, is still a bit much, though. I think the Note2 should've been priced at 249.99 and 300 for the 32gb.
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I'm sure they'll bring one out eventually and lower the price of the current Note 2 when they do. My guess is it will be $250/$300 and happen around February, but it's just a guess.
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I wouldn't count on that for a few reasons:
1.) as advertised the msd slot will make it so many people do not have this issue.
2.) i don't know why you think that'll happen around feb. the s3 hasn't had a price drop yet either and that phone has been out approx. 3-4 months. so in feb the note 2 will have been out 3-4 months, so i don't know why they would slash the price just so they can give us a phone with more memory for the same price.
3.) they are already talking about the S4 in March 2013, so if the phone releases in <1 year, there will be no point for upgrading the memory to 32gb on the N2 since anyone looking to upgrade probably will just wait for the N3.
4.) as said, depends on the #'s of N2's they sell. i don't think this phone will sell extremely well compared to iP5/S3, so i don't see why they would even care about releasing the 32/64 variants since it won't bring in that much extra revenue.
5.) so far, isn't jp and kr the only countries that have different variants in terms of memory? last time i was on the international n2 board, it seems like almost people only had the 16gb version.
6.) vzw sucks
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I wouldn't count on that for a few reasons:
1.) as advertised the msd slot will make it so many people do not have this issue.
2.) i don't know why you think that'll happen around feb. the s3 hasn't had a price drop yet either and that phone has been out approx. 3-4 months. so in feb the note 2 will have been out 3-4 months, so i don't know why they would slash the price just so they can give us a phone with more memory for the same price.
3.) they are already talking about the S4 in March 2013, so if the phone releases in <1 year, there will be no point for upgrading the memory to 32gb on the N2 since anyone looking to upgrade probably will just wait for the N3.
4.) as said, depends on the #'s of N2's they sell. i don't think this phone will sell extremely well compared to iP5/S3, so i don't see why they would even care about releasing the 32/64 variants since it won't bring in that much extra revenue.
5.) so far, isn't jp and kr the only countries that have different variants in terms of memory? last time i was on the international n2 board, it seems like almost people only had the 16gb version.
6.) vzw sucks
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1.) The GS3 has a slot and they still have the options. Onboard ROM is faster and also some people would want the extra storage for music.
2.) I wouldn't be surprised if they lowered it around then due to competitor's phones - and to entice people to buy it that haven't. Just like they are adding color options to the S3. The success of this phone will definitely lead to other manufacturers getting in on the 5.5" scene.
3.) Most people aren't going to wait 6 months or so to upgrade.
4.) They already sold over 3 million before AT&T (and Verizon) got it. This phone is selling more than they expected, I'd bet.
5.) Since they already have the added memory in the GS3, putting it in the Note 2 won't cost much - it's not like they'll have to use anything new.
It shouldn't surprise anyone if a 32GB eventually comes out. I wouldn't wait on it or anything but it's definitely quite possible.
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1.) The GS3 has a slot and they still have the options. Onboard ROM is faster and also some people would want the extra storage for music.
2.) I wouldn't be surprised if they lowered it around then due to competitor's phones - and to entice people to buy it that haven't. Just like they are adding color options to the S3. The success of this phone will definitely lead to other manufacturers getting in on the 5.5" scene.
3.) Most people aren't going to wait 6 months or so to upgrade.
4.) They already sold over 3 million before AT&T (and Verizon) got it. This phone is selling more than they expected, I'd bet.
5.) Since they already have the added memory in the GS3, putting it in the Note 2 won't cost much - it's not like they'll have to use anything new.
It shouldn't surprise anyone if a 32GB eventually comes out. I wouldn't wait on it or anything but it's definitely quite possible.
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1.) gs3 is a lot more marketable. even though we all love n2, most likely will not appeal to the masses. it is like if they made an iP5 that is 5.5", i wouldn't expect it to outsell the iP5.
2.) i would. vzw touts superior coverage + better LTE speeds. they will just say this comes with the territory.
3.) 6 months? who knows when the N3 will be announced. if all goes according to the rumor mill about S4 we could expect that as early as march 2012. if they announced the n3 on the same timeline as the s4 (which obviously i doubt) then i bet many people will wait out for the n3. of course people who don't know may snatch up the note, but i'd bet those people are just up for upgrade and i'm placing my money on more people having upgrades available to them during late q3/early q4 opposed to early q1 where we see a lot less phones being released. obv. companies want to cash in during the holiday season.
4.) still not over >30 mil like the s3. the #'s are good for a phone this size, but then again maybe some people will switch after having a 5.5" phone on next upgrade since there are not many phones available on this size. i think the sweet spot now seems to be around 5"... the n2 is huge in comparison to most phones, even the s3.
5.) like you said, 10 mil sold and the only place you can really pick up a bigger variant is in kr/jp. samsung has advertised it in various nations in various sizes, but there is little to no reason why they advertise it coming in those sizes/not having any stock available. there was a guy who got torn apart in another part of this forum for creating a petition for samsung to release the bigger sized variants. i would say with the expandable memory most people will not care about this. i don't think many people are going to wait to upgrade 3-4 months for a bigger sized variant/it might not be worth it to release it later in terms of sales. it isn't like i said an ip5 or s3 which sell like hotcakes.
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/11/19/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-and-note-2-gain-three-new-colours
not confirmed. it doesn't say us, either. positive step in the right direction though, even though i don't think any carrier in the usa offers the 6 variant colors of the s3
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During the past two weeks I have spoken to two people in upper management at Verizon Wireless regarding the GN2 release. This post is for those that care about the conversation.
Both conversations happened with individuals no further than 3 levels down from the CEO. Keep in mind that many of the same questions were asked or mentioned multiple times and the same answer was not always repeated and thus I had to read between the lines.
Here is what I gathered.
Verizon did not sell the Note 1 (as we know) and was not confident enough that it would work on their network as planned so instead of releasing it when other carriers did, it instead allowed 1) field testers to use it for the past month as they have with much success and 2) allow US Cellular to sell the gray version (to test) since they share many towers.
Realizing the white version is much more popular, US Cellular is not allowed to release it until/after Verizon does (to avoid customers switching to US Cellular). Apparently Verizon and US Cellular share A LOT of towers and if you are in an area without VZLTE, USC may be a better option.
The release is targeted for Christmas shopping and VZ did not see enough demand to warrant releasing it any earlier (ie: prior to Thanksgiving). Given the comment that was made about needing to test the phone, I'm not sure this would have even been an option.
Throughout both calls, both mention that the phone will be released on the 27th and also will be shipped on the 27th but also mentioned that it will be released on the 29th. I purposely did not try to pin down a date since what we have heard is that it will ship by the 27th and release on the 29th. I'm not familiar with Verizon so I'm not sure if a Tuesday release is possible. The Droid DNA is to be released on November 21 so we know Wednesday is an option.
All of this does not help us get our phone any sooner but I ended both conversations felling more aware of why Verizon postponed the release and confident that it will be my next carrier on the 27/29th of November."
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I have only ever owned HTC smartphones, from the original WinMo 6 Touch through my most recent Thunderbolt. Its upgrade time and I'm basically trying to figure out whether staying with HTC is an option for me.
The problem is that one of my major use cases is on airplanes. I need at a minimum to have a couple 1080p movies, 2-3 ebooks and 3-4 3hr+ playlists locally my phone, so 16GB non-expandable is tough for me. Google Music/Amazon Video/Netflix are awesome, but useless without network connections. On the flip side, I have unlimited data so not worried about keeping everything in the cloud otherwise. Also, I had a Thunderbolt and even with the extended battery I would often get off a plane with <20% battery, and with this phone switching to another fully charged battery isn't really an option. Finally, using my Gingerbread Thunderbolt, I have no faith in HTC updating even flagship phones, which undermines the S4 processor/screen is more future-proof argument.
The major upside of this phone for me is price (vs. the Note II, I would buy unlocked so $100 isn't a huge difference but hey), perfect screen size with lots of real estate but one-handed operation (moreso since I do not carry or use a tablet although I have an iPad), my level of comfort with HTC and the developer community (unlocked bootloader!), and build quality (but not design).
What I'm worried about is that there is no way out with this phone. The shortcomings of the Thunderbolt could be fixed via extended battery and by flashing custom/leaked ROMs.
I know this isn't exactly addressing your issues with the DNA but have you ever thought about investing in a tablet? It seems to me that if you need a portable device to watch multiple videos, read books and listen to music for long lengths of time, the Nexus 7 or maybe 10 would be a better way to go than a phone.
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I know this isn't exactly addressing your issues with the DNA but have you ever thought about investing in a tablet? It seems to me that if you need a portable device to watch multiple videos, read books and listen to music for long lengths of time, the Nexus 7 or maybe 10 would be a better way to go than a phone.
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That's a great suggestion. Getting a Nexus 7 for couch-surfing duties did wonders for my LTE GNex's daily battery life, and I expect it to be a huge asset on cross-country flights as well.
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That's a great suggestion. Getting a Nexus 7 for couch-surfing duties did wonders for my LTE GNex's daily battery life, and I expect it to be a huge asset on cross-country flights as well.
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I seriously thought about getting a tablet (Nexus 4+7 works out cheaper than a Note 2), but generally walk around NYC and don't carry a briefcase. I've always been a bit of a minimalist, which is why I am interested in these phablets in the first place (the screen is large enough to read PDFs and ebooks with ease and nice for video viewing).
I don't carry a 2nd blackberry or anything, so I actually will be using this phone to make phone calls, which is an argument for going Nexus 4+7 instead of the oversized DNA or Note 2. On the other hand, Jawbone makes very nice Bluetooth headsets. I also have such a favorable Verizon contract ($60/month for unlimited data and more minutes and text than I have ever used), that I don't want to switch, especially given how nice it is to have LTE when I end up in places like Milwaukee overnight with useless hotel internet.
The DNA may support OTG mode, what does that mean, with a small adapter you can attach a flash/thumb/usb drive to your phone, you'll be able to stream from this as well. The cables can be as short or long as you want and these would be easily portable. I say MAY because no one seems to know, it's not official but some have gotten it to work
on the flip side, if you're having problems with battery life, an external battery also works, I have one that is about the size of 2 of my fingers put together and it has a 5600mA battery, of course you can't use the USB port for keeping stuff on the phone, but maybe charge it afterwards or while watching a movie that is on your phone perhaps? (alternating between the two)
Some thing like this should solve your battery problems
http://www.brookstone.com/mobile-2600-mah-charger?bkiid=SubCategory_Travel_Batteries_External_Cell_Phone_Battery_Chargers|SubCategoryWidget|802209p&catId=
I'd go to another carrier store and ask to hold a note 2. It's probably the better phone for you imo, unless it doesn't feel comfortable in your hand. If it doesn't and you don't play 3D roaming games nor care too much about the camera, I'd look get a Razr Maxx HD. Plugging the phone into a portable charger is just annoying and you may not see any performance difference with what you do anyways.
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On the flip side, I have unlimited data so not worried about keeping everything in the cloud otherwise.
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I was just wanting to know how you could upgrade to a new phone without losing the unlimited data. I too have the Thunderbolt and am planning on upgrading to the DNA, so how could I stick with my unlimited data? Thanks
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I was just wanting to know how you could upgrade to a new phone without losing the unlimited data. I too have the Thunderbolt and am planning on upgrading to the DNA, so how could I stick with my unlimited data? Thanks
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he stated that he is buying the phone off contract. Doesn't really matter, sounds like Verizon is going to force off contract users off of unlimited data soon enough...
Then those that bought devices off contract to keep it will be all sorts of pissed off.
Why in the world do you need 1080p movies for a 5" screen?
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Why in the world do you need 1080p movies for a 5" screen?
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Need and want can be 2 different things.
For your specific needs, I guess I don't see the DNA being ideal. Between storage and battery life just doesn't seem like a winner. The Screen on the Note II sounds to be very good, and will probably be better all around otherwise if you're comfortable with its size.
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he stated that he is buying the phone off contract. Doesn't really matter, sounds like Verizon is going to force off contract users off of unlimited data soon enough...
Then those that bought devices off contract to keep it will be all sorts of pissed off.
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Yeah, this is why I'm just giving up my unlimited data. Even if they didn't I'd have to use a ton of data to justify paying $400 more for a phone I'll probably upgrade again in a couple years. Right now I only use about 200MB/month and I'm sure I'll use more with a faster 4G phone but I doubt it will be that much more - not enough to justify the money.
nrfitchett4 said:
he stated that he is buying the phone off contract. Doesn't really matter, sounds like Verizon is going to force off contract users off of unlimited data soon enough...
Then those that bought devices off contract to keep it will be all sorts of pissed off.
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Do you have any source for your information. I am planning to buy off contract as well.
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Do you have any source for your information. I am planning to buy off contract as well.
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Verizon hasn't said anything, but they also said that anyone with unlimited data would be grandfathered in and be able to upgrade on contract permanently without losing it. Look how long that lasted, and there's nothing stopping them from forcing users with off contract unlimited data to a different plan.
Then again, they are getting a lot more money out of people buying off contract since they are still paying the same price for a plan that was meant to make up for the lowered phone prices. But I still think they are going to pull it.
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Do you have any source for your information. I am planning to buy off contract as well.
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There have been multiple rumors since they changed the rules this summer. Come summer of 2014, no one will be left on contract with unlimited. Had a Verizon rep tell my wife that changes are coming next April. I might wait until then to get new phones.
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Coming from the T-bolt, you will likely be AMAZED. (my $.02).
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Verizon hasn't said anything, but they also said that anyone with unlimited data would be grandfathered in and be able to upgrade on contract permanently without losing it. Look how long that lasted, and there's nothing stopping them from forcing users with off contract unlimited data to a different plan.
Then again, they are getting a lot more money out of people buying off contract since they are still paying the same price for a plan that was meant to make up for the lowered phone prices. But I still think they are going to pull it.
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From a cash flow perspective, having people buy off-contract phones is amazing for phone companies, since it takes them well over a year+ to make money on customers when they upgrade (more for heavily subsidized devices like iPhones, less for mid-range androids and feature phones). Verizon needs cash right now to dividend out and build their network, so I wouldn't be surprised if they continue to allow unlimited data for at least another product cycle (July 2013).
I'm going to AT&T and seeing if I can use the Note 2. If I can, I think that is the phone for me.
Thunderbolt is basically useless now without ICS. Mine lags for minutes when I make an outgoing call and often the keyboard freezes and needs a reset before it works again (stock ROM). It got bad enough that when I travel I switch service to a Droid 3 I have lying around.
I have a SGP621, been reading the posts on here but none seem to answer some of the questions I have. I do appologize if seems like some of this info I could just get myself by visiting the stores, unfortunately I have very bad experiences with AT&T sales reps, I always seem to have halfwits who know less about the phones and plans their selling then I do. plus I work almost every day, I dont have the time wait half an hour between each question so the the reps can all play "pass the question" in the hopes that the person to their left knows the answer. its irritating, frustrating, and your own personal experiences would give me a much better picture.
Also, it seems I'm one of the few who fall in the opposite category of what seems to be everyone else who bought the SGP621, I actually don't want to use it as a phone at all, I'm just tired of tethering. Ideally, I'd be happiest with a data only plan, even better if doing so could save me some cash.
AT&T questions:
Can I just get a data plan/add it as a tablet?
As a phone...would/could it be the same number as my normal phone? 2 separate numbers?
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Yeah, it's the same on the Z3TC. I didn't accept the download because I don't want my settings changed so I can't confirm if it has RedPocket , H2O and ATT etc...
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whats this about? is this necessary? what does it change?
How much is it to add to an existing family plan?
how much of a data usage increase do you see with this on your plan?
T-Mobile questions:
Roughly how much for the data only plan?
is it worth it considering I already have a plan with AT&T?
That's exactly what I have with tmobile... Data only... Twenty bucks a month for 1gb, and that does include the free music streaming service
Well incase anyone was wondering, I did actually have some time today. since I already have a mobile share plan with AT&T adding my tablet was pretty cheap.
Its $10 for a tablet (data only), $15 for a phone (phone+data)
When they stuck a sim card in my tablet, AT&T gets confused, classifying it as 2 different things on 2 different levels and thus they could not simply add it. Instead they had to use the serial from one of the instore display devices, so they gave me the option to classify it as a tablet or phone. Even though I was planning to go tablet, 5 dollar diff? i went phone. seems to be working fine so far.
Consider the $15/mo tablet data plan thru Harbor Mobile ($15 for 5GBs). They are simply reselling a T-Mo business line I believe and could prob go under and leave you hanging at any moment...but if you don't have a phone number to lose, who cares.