I haven't been able to properly manage my Android phone ever since the move to MTP. I am currently out of space on my SGS3 and can't figure out what is eating up the space. On a normal directory in Windows I would use a utility like WinDirStat, but to my knowledge you can't use any such utilities on an MTP device.
How can I tell where the space is being used?
Is it possible to add an SD card to the "MTP pool"?
Thanks guy,
Tynen
I know it's an old thread, but I have this exact same problem so I'm bumping to see if anybody has any answer
You can do this using a file explorer app directly on the device. There are hidden folders (starts with a dot) which don't show up with MTP (I think they don't, not sure). These might be taking space. You can view them with a file explorer app. Also, if you have a custom recovery, you can mount the SD card as USB Mass Storage on your computer.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium
Related
Hi all,
Been searching for a while but i cant seem to find the answer, im trying to make my phone appear on my pc so i can recover some files i accidently deleted, the problem is it will only show up as the storage card, i can get the phones memory to show up but only via active sync, so im just wondering is there a way to make the phones internal memory appear as a removable drive so i can run a recovery program on it?
Cheers
lukejenks101 said:
Hi all,
Been searching for a while but i cant seem to find the answer, im trying to make my phone appear on my pc so i can recover some files i accidently deleted, the problem is it will only show up as the storage card, i can get the phones memory to show up but only via active sync, so im just wondering is there a way to make the phones internal memory appear as a removable drive so i can run a recovery program on it?
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not that I know of. Can you not run it via active sync?
or maybe vise versa?
When connecting as a mass storage device, the OS on your desktop/laptop takes control of that "removable disc" (can't access it via the phone). Only sd card - external storage can be available. I presume that the inner storage must be maintained by the phone at all times, when turned on.
You can however make a backup or modify files within the inner storage with a file explorer installed on your device (Resco explorer for example). Just make adjustments, to view hidden and system files.
I wouldn't advise you to delete or modify critical system files tho...
Sent from my HD2
How do I enable USB Mass storage mode instead of the stupid MTP og PTP?
Regards,
BTJ
Not sure if this works for the SGS3 but it worked for the SGS2:
Bring up Settings.
Click More… (under Wireless and network).
Then select USB utilities ~ Set USB cable connection mode.
Select Connect storage to PC then.
Connect USB cable from phone to PC.
Select Turn on USB storage.
That’s all.
Sorry, no such settings in SGS3, we are stuch with MTP or PTP... Don't understand the logic behind removing USB Mass storage mode!! Both MTP and PTP are slow as hell and there is no support for S3 in libmtp at the moment to make matters worse... If I had known this, I would have reconsidered my choice of buying a SGS3.....
BTJ
Like the Nexus, /sdcard is mounted at /data/media (IIRC, mount point could be different), meaning that internal data and the internal sdcard space share the space, rather than being split. UMS removes access to the device that is mounted from the phone, so it cannot be used when the sdcard is shared in this fashion.
I thought libmtp worked? I've been using adb and a GUI for shifting lots of files, qtadb
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Seems to be a problem with both SII and SIII... But I will check out qtadb, thx...
BTJ
So am I reading this right. You can't plug a USB cable in, the SD card appears then in explorer?
I have a sensation XE at moment and use this a lot for transferring files at work/home etc.
So can I not access my files normally now that I copy to SD card, eg docs etc?
Nope... But it sounds like you are using Windows so then MTP will work, kind of like you are used to...
BTJ
The idea about using MTP is it allows you to continue to use your phone without disruption, loading Mass Storage un-mounts the sd from your phone.
However I do think we should still be given a choice
Yes, I guess I understand the idea... What I don't understand is why they have removed the choice we used to have.... :-|
BTJ
I stil don't have an S3, but am a little confused on the MTP etc. Also I use a Mac and a Windows PC.
So when you plug in an S3 on a Windows PC, what does it do in MTP mode? just still allow you to drag/drop files? does the S3 come up as another drive or something in explore?
Also anyone with a Mac, how does this work?
cheers
This might give us some insight on why no USB Storage.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
fylim said:
This might give us some insight on why no USB Storage.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think I got the jist of that article lol but does this mean android developement were looking for devices to have either internal storage or sd storage but because the SG3 has both its sort of screwed things up a bit?
So UMS might be released in a later patch to allow easier access to added SD storage? Or does the current setting allow access to both storage thru windows pc?
Soz if I come across as a noob I havent got sg3 yet but planning to get one in a few weeks for upgrade and Ive been trying to get the low down on positives and negatives before I get the phone
Keep things simple!
Please can someone answer this simply.
Can I plug in the device into my mac/pc and just transfer any file to the micro SD card whilst it is in the phone?
All I want to do is to be able to put avi files on it as samsung kies or doubletwist doesn't seem to suppor them...
A yes or a no with and explanation would be great ta!!
pow001 said:
Please can someone answer this simply.
Can I plug in the device into my mac/pc and just transfer any file to the micro SD card whilst it is in the phone?
All I want to do is to be able to put avi files on it as samsung kies or doubletwist doesn't seem to suppor them...
A yes or a no with and explanation would be great ta!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes you can easily do that. No issues in that. Simply treat it as a normal pendrive in such a case.
sorted!
toxicthunder said:
yes you can easily do that. No issues in that. Simply treat it as a normal pendrive in such a case.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the help. Although I figure out what everyone was talking about.
This is how I did it (maybe this will help others noobs as well):
You will need the 'Android File Transfer program' --> google search it!
1.Connect phone to PC (you will see usb icon at the top of the screen)
2. Pull down the notification centre.
3. Touch the usb thing.
4. Click PTP mode
5. Open the file transfer program
BOOM! Rock on nerds!
Anyone come up with a solution yet for USB mass storage mode to access the external card?
I recently bought a 64gb microsd card and the SGS3 has no option for mass storage mode to access it. Trying to load lots of music files. Very frustrating
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium
You're not able to open windows explorer to drag and drop you music to the SD card? When you click on your phone in windows explorer, it should open up another page to choose between your internal and external storage.
If you mean when connected to a PC, select camera mode when connected, in case the drive isnr compatible with mtp. You should be set then.
I can drag and drop. I was trying to use Double Twist program on my laptop to sync music so I have my itunes playlist intact. For whatever reason Double Twist doesn't recognize MTP or PTP connections on the sgs3.
I've run into a couple other situations with apps that don't recognize the external memory card. I think Quick Office Pro was another app I had trouble with as well.
I really miss the AOSP USB mass storage mode
Yes, not having UMS really sucks. I constantly have to switch between camera or media mode in order to transfer files. I'm 100% a custom ROM would fix this, but it should've been there out of the box. I wonder why samsung removed it.
Can't find Externel SD Card on my PHOne
I installed a 32GB external SD Card on my phone - when I plug in my computer I can see it just fine - I see T999 and Card as, connected to my computer via USB - this looked really different from how I have seen the external SD Card presented on other phones???
Plus - when I open ROOT Explorer or ES File Explorer to try to manage files on the Ext SD Card - I can't seem to find it anywhere - I can see the "SD Card" - which is the internal SD Card that comes with the phone- I have music files I have already put on that along with a ROM and Kernel Zip File that I flashed recently - and which I added prior to getting the 32GB external SD Card.
FYI - On my phone, When I go to 'Settings" Storage - I can see there is an SD Card with 29.71GB of available space (I don't have any files on it yet) - So I know the phone can recognize it - I just can't find it using any of the file explorers - is there some setting I have neglected to turn on ?
when I installed an SD card on my wifes EVO LTE I see both internal and external SD Cards - with names like SD Card - EXT SD Card -and or SDCard2 all depending on what program I was using to locate them -
on my new GALAXY SIII, right now I only see SDCard and can;t locate th external SD Card - any suggestions? (I feel like a real noob)
cjacks519 said:
I can drag and drop. I was trying to use Double Twist program on my laptop to sync music so I have my itunes playlist intact. For whatever reason Double Twist doesn't recognize MTP or PTP connections on the sgs3.
I've run into a couple other situations with apps that don't recognize the external memory card. I think Quick Office Pro was another app I had trouble with as well.
I really miss the AOSP USB mass storage mode
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I gave up using DoubleTwist because of the outdated/slow support like what you are having and how it doesnt work well with mp3s over 10 mb. I switched to Syncr to use iTunes as my playlist manager and it works perfect. Syncr had support for the S3 almost the next day.
mocsab said:
when I open ROOT Explorer or ES File Explorer to try to manage files on the Ext SD Card - I can't seem to find it anywhere
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
go to /mnt/extSdCard
cjacks519 said:
Anyone come up with a solution yet for USB mass storage mode to access the external card?
I recently bought a 64gb microsd card and the SGS3 has no option for mass storage mode to access it. Trying to load lots of music files. Very frustrating
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
have you downloaded the latest samsung drivers? also if you connect the phon to your laptop, shouldnt thepull-down notification now ask if you want to use mass storage?
Stryker1297 said:
have you downloaded the latest samsung drivers? also if you connect the phon to your laptop, shouldnt thepull-down notification now ask if you want to use mass storage?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mass Storage mode has been removed. Samsung now uses multimedia transfer or camera transfer (or something close to that). Mass storage is no longer an option in the drop down menu.
plaut said:
go to /mnt/extSdCard
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome - thanks - I feel like such a noob - and I should have been able to figure that out - it was just so different than other I had seen. By the do you know if CWM will recognize the External SD Card? (on my wife's EVO LTE I could choose which of the two SD Cards I wanted to flash with - is there any wayt to that with CWM and or does TWRP work with this phone?
Thanks for the help - it is appreciated
siirus09 said:
Yeah I gave up using DoubleTwist because of the outdated/slow support like what you are having and how it doesnt work well with mp3s over 10 mb. I switched to Syncr to use iTunes as my playlist manager and it works perfect. Syncr had support for the S3 almost the next day.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never heard of that program but it sounds like something I'll try out. I always used Double Twist in the past just because it imported iTunes playlist flawlessly. Sammy unfortunately takes away the AOSP mass storage mode. Sucks! :crying:
Thanks for this suggestion. I'll give it a go :good:
Stryker1297 said:
have you downloaded the latest samsung drivers? also if you connect the phon to your laptop, shouldnt thepull-down notification now ask if you want to use mass storage?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do have the latest samsung drivers, but unfortunately not all programs or apps recognize the MTP and PTP options that samsung forces us to use
siirus09 said:
Yeah I gave up using DoubleTwist because of the outdated/slow support like what you are having and how it doesnt work well with mp3s over 10 mb. I switched to Syncr to use iTunes as my playlist manager and it works perfect. Syncr had support for the S3 almost the next day.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it "iSyncr" perhaps??? I tried a google search of just "syncr" and I'm having trouble finding it.
man that sucks... Looks like we have to wait for a port for a mod on the I9300 forums.
found this thread in the i9300 forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
Unfortunately it only works for the international version (already tried it). I would hope that something like this could be created/ported for the US variants. I'd do it myself, but this kind of stuff is way over my head
Maybe one of our great devs could make this happen???
mocsab said:
By the do you know if CWM will recognize the External SD Card?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, you can use CWM (ROM Manager) to flash ROMs on the external card (although I prefer booting into Recovery and flashing the zip files manually).
Root Explorer Problem
I am having a similar problem. My phone recognizes my external SD card (64 GB Sandisk Ultra).
I can transfer files from my computer to my ExtSD via usb.
When I go in to my my files on my phone it shows ExtSD Card and SD Card, but root explorer, ES file, and Astro will not show ExtSD.
I have been looking all over for a solution but have yet to find one.
I finally realized what going to mnt/extsdCard meant. Feel pretty dumb.
In case people haven't seen, there is now a way to mount the external card in mass storage mode for US/LTE variants of the SG3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768752
It won't let me see hidden folders in camera or media sharing mode. I hide folders with a "." in front of it, so like /.Wallpapers/ won't show up. Any way to fix this without renaming it?
I find myself using the S3 as a second computer at times. However, this way of using my phone is often interrupted since I can't use my phone during MTP file transfers. Is there a mod to solve this problem somehow?
Mounting the sd card as a usb mass storage device isn't really an option for me since this won't allow me access to the internal memory and also requires an additional step before I can use it. Also, during usb mass storage mode my phone wouldn't be able to access the "external" sd card.
So I basically want MTP, but without the MTP app taking over my phone. Is that possible?
Shameless bump after 2 days
Not possible
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
When I connect my S3 to my Windows XP laptop it connects as a media device, showing only 2 folders - data and media. When I connnect to a Windows 7 desktop I can access both the internal and external SD cards as storage devices - which is what I want to do on the laptop.
Is there any way that I can get full access to my phone's SD card from a Windows XP machine?
itm said:
When I connect my S3 to my Windows XP laptop it connects as a media device, showing only 2 folders - data and media. When I connnect to a Windows 7 desktop I can access both the internal and external SD cards as storage devices - which is what I want to do on the laptop.
Is there any way that I can get full access to my phone's SD card from a Windows XP machine?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd suggest trying to install KIES for the drivers and see if that helps
Or search for the SaMSUNG usb DRIVERS .
jje
I had already installed the Samsung USB driver, so that wasn't the issue. I've now installed Kies, but that seems to have made things worse - I now get an error installing the hardware device when I plug the phone in, and the laptop can't see it at all :0(
itm said:
When I connect my S3 to my Windows XP laptop it connects as a media device, showing only 2 folders - data and media. When I connnect to a Windows 7 desktop I can access both the internal and external SD cards as storage devices - which is what I want to do on the laptop.
Is there any way that I can get full access to my phone's SD card from a Windows XP machine?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? It is my understanding that stock s3 does not support usb mass storage, only mtp (which is why you see it appear as a media device). You can download easy usb mass storage from the s3 android apps forum to enable mass storage mode (requires root and busybox), but only for the external sd card. As the internal sd card is a single partition mounting it in windows would render the device unusable. Could you elaborate on how you are achieving this in win7,and what you are running on your s3 (firmware, rooted etc)?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
jwchips said:
Really? It is my understanding that stock s3 does not support usb mass storage, only mtp (which is why you see it appear as a media device). You can download easy usb mass storage from the s3 android apps forum to enable mass storage mode (requires root and busybox), but only for the external sd card. As the internal sd card is a single partition mounting it in windows would render the device unusable. Could you elaborate on how you are achieving this in win7,and what you are running on your s3 (firmware, rooted etc)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There was no special setup on Win7. I'm running Win7 Enterprise and did not manually install either Kies or a Samsung driver - I just plugged the phone in. The phone is rooted, and running CheckROM 3.5. It is listed as a media player, but shows the internal SD card as "Phone" and the external card as "Card". Now if only I could get XP to do something similar.
Will investigate easy usb mass storage....
itm said:
There was no special setup on Win7. I'm running Win7 Enterprise and did not manually install either Kies or a Samsung driver - I just plugged the phone in. The phone is rooted, and running CheckROM 3.5. It is listed as a media player, but shows the internal SD card as "Phone" and the external card as "Card". Now if only I could get XP to do something similar.
Will investigate easy usb mass storage....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the speedy clarification. If you went into either phone or card could you see non-media files (e.g zip files)? I think you may be running in mtp mode on both machines, and I think you can only see media files in mtp mode. However I am definitely no expert or developer.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
jwchips said:
Thanks for the speedy clarification. If you went into either phone or card could you see non-media files (e.g zip files)? I think you may be running in mtp mode on both machines, and I think you can only see media files in mtp mode. However I am definitely no expert or developer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I'm running MTP mode. The only other option is Camera (PTP). On the Win7 machine I can see all files and directories - it behaves just like a mass storage device.
MTP mode
Connected via Samsung USB cable to Win 7 PC.+ drivers installed
Open My Computer
Open GT-i9300
Two drives Phone and SD card exactly the same as in USB mass storage mode .
Cut Paste Copy Delete all the normal functions on all the user folders .
jje
itm said:
Yes I'm running MTP mode. The only other option is Camera (PTP). On the Win7 machine I can see all files and directories - it behaves just like a mass storage device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I just plugged my phone in to test and can see non-media files in mtp mode. I'm sure it has drawbacks but I'm afraid I can't remember them lol. I know the positive points for mtp is the phone can still access the card, and media files will be formatted to the optimum file type when you transfer them (for example movies will be re encoded to native resolution).
I'm afraid I've reached the limit of my knowledge in this area and don't think I can be of any more assistance. The best I can advise is use easy usb to access the external sd card on your xp machine, and research the limitations of mtp mode, and how xp handles mtp.
Edit: after some brief research it seems you need windows media player 10 or higher for mtp to work on xp, although I seriously doubt you have an older version. Also as you are rooted you could install Solid Explorer Beta from the play store (free) and browse the file system via wifi by pressing menu key and selecting file sharing from within the app.
I'm now officially out of ideas
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
Do you have the latest service pack installed on XP (sp3), as well as as latest windows media player? The XP MTP support comew with one of those, i don't remember which one, though. Wouldn't hurt to have both anyway.
PS: Those recommending Kies should think again! It has NOTHING to do with it and its a piece of cr^H^H^H bloatware.