Seeing stuff about the new Droid DNA that was announced today, just kinda curious of who all will be getting it? I won't be able to get it real soon after release unless money and/or the DNA falls out of the sky into my hands, but just curious of who all would jump on that? It looks sick, and I think ViperDNA would be insane.
Just looking for you guys' thoughts on it.
ill buy it the second its confirmed unlock/rooted/s off/whatever
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Seeing stuff about the new Droid DNA that was announced today, just kinda curious of who all will be getting it? I won't be able to get it real soon after release unless money and/or the DNA falls out of the sky into my hands, but just curious of who all would jump on that? It looks sick, and I think ViperDNA would be insane.
Just looking for you guys' thoughts on it.
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I think it looks amazing, and it is probably my next. But I'm not eligible to upgrade until February, and even then...I have to convince the missus. Cnet's live blog didn't mention a microSD expansion, which is disappointing, but the camera looked amazing. It's always ready to take a picture by pressing the hardware button. Nice!
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ill buy it the second its confirmed unlock/rooted/s off/whatever
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Oh yeah...there is that issue too. Which makes waiting a few months less painful.
Currently on the Dinc4G... I can wait till my official upgrade date in April and I'll buy the best phone available then... Not this though, I think it is way too big for me.
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Currently on the Dinc4G... I can wait till my official upgrade date in April and I'll buy the best phone available then... Not this though, I think it is way too big for me.
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Well, that was a quick move to a new forum...Anyway I just want to say that I called that Verizon's app store is being replaced by Amazon's "services." The product page says you can use a single sign-on to all of the Amazon apps. I like most of them, but I'd rather be able to install/uninstall on my own.
This would be my next phone if it wasn't on Verizon.
I'm planning on buying it, I just have to figure out what I am going to have to do to keep my unlimited data. If you upgrade a limited data line now and use this phone on an unlimited data line they cut the unlimited data plan off. I am thinking of upgrading the limited data line and selling it on EBay then buying another DNA since they can only take it if the device has the same serial number. I haven't been able to find a friend to swap phones with to keep our data packs yet, they dont have upgrades >.<
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I'm planning on buying it, I just have to figure out what I am going to have to do to keep my unlimited data. If you upgrade a limited data line now and use this phone on an unlimited data line they cut the unlimited data plan off. I am thinking of upgrading the limited data line and selling it on EBay then buying another DNA since they can only take it if the device has the same serial number. I haven't been able to find a friend to swap phones with to keep our data packs yet, they dont have upgrades >.<
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No they wont.
In fact... verizon reps will tell you to do this method if you want to keep your unlimited data plan.
No chance. Fixed storage, questionable battery life.
Jumped ship from my Galaxy Note 2 pre-order to nab this one instead. Higher resolution, lots of equal or better specs, and $100 less? Yep. Battery might be an issue but not worried about it as I tend to keep my phone plugged in at my desk at work all day anyways. Bring it on!
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No they wont.
In fact... verizon reps will tell you to do this method if you want to keep your unlimited data plan.
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What is the method? I was gonna buy the DNA on release day without contract but I would way rather save the $400.
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No they wont.
In fact... verizon reps will tell you to do this method if you want to keep your unlimited data plan.
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Verizon didn't tell me to do that method. I called them asking about billing the phone to my account and they told me you can't bill preorders to your account. They also told me that any line that I switch this phone to since it carries a new two year contract is subject to be audited and if they find in their audit that it has the same IMEI number as the one I purchased on my limited data line, they will change my plan for the unlimited data phone to a limited data plan. Verizon is trying to destroy us unlimited data users any way they possibly can.
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Verizon didn't tell me to do that method. I called them asking about billing the phone to my account and they told me you can't bill preorders to your account. They also told me that any line that I switch this phone to since it carries a new two year contract is subject to be audited and if they find in their audit that it has the same IMEI number as the one I purchased on my limited data line, they will change my plan for the unlimited data phone to a limited data plan. Verizon is trying to destroy us unlimited data users any way they possibly can.
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Solution = Upgrade your current phone unsubsidized at full retail, sell your old phone on ebay to offset some of the cost, and retain your unlimited data until it's new contract time down the road.
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I'm planning on buying it, I just have to figure out what I am going to have to do to keep my unlimited data. If you upgrade a limited data line now and use this phone on an unlimited data line they cut the unlimited data plan off. I am thinking of upgrading the limited data line and selling it on EBay then buying another DNA since they can only take it if the device has the same serial number. I haven't been able to find a friend to swap phones with to keep our data packs yet, they dont have upgrades >.<
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Wireless charging + 1080p! I'm sure in!
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No chance. Fixed storage, questionable battery life.
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None of the reviews have questioned battery life, only people here that think that less than 3000mah is some sort of travesty these days.
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Jumped ship from my Galaxy Note 2 pre-order to nab this one instead. Higher resolution, lots of equal or better specs, and $100 less? Yep. Battery might be an issue but not worried about it as I tend to keep my phone plugged in at my desk at work all day anyways. Bring it on!
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not ready to decide between this and the note 2. Note 2 has sd card slot and bigger battery, but samsung plastic sucks and their radios don't seem to get along with cdma. Been a htc fan for a long time, so I want to play with both first.
looks beautiful, and reminds me of a skinny evo mixed with the original incredible!
i didnt know about this release, havent been very up to date >_< but im considering it now
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Just a head's-up for anybody looking to update before the data plan change.
I think this also includes all Motorola phone's
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...artphones-with-their-dads-and-grads-sale-r810
"Sorry folks, the Galaxy Nexus isn't one of the included phones in this promotion."
That ruined my day
Anyone know if I would I be able to get the Bionic for free (w/2 year contract renewal) if I don't currently have an upgrade available? I got the X2 off my dad, they resigned my 2 year contract last year and locked me into the piece of crap till next year. Ugh.
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Anyone know if I would I be able to get the Bionic for free (w/2 year contract renewal) if I don't currently have an upgrade available? I got the X2 off my dad, they resigned my 2 year contract last year and locked me into the piece of crap till next year. Ugh.
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Same here
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"Sorry folks, the Galaxy Nexus isn't one of the included phones in this promotion."
That ruined my day
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That ruined my next two years.
Or however long before Big Red forces all of us into tiered plans.
For existing customers, Amazon has the Galaxy Nexus for $150. (50 bucks cheaper than Verizon)
For NEW customers, the Nexus goes for $50.
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That ruined my next two years.
Or however long before Big Red forces all of us into tiered plans.
For existing customers, Amazon has the Galaxy Nexus for $150. (50 bucks cheaper than Verizon)
For NEW customers, the Nexus goes for $50.
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Thanks for the info. I'll check that out.
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That ruined my next two years.
Or however long before Big Red forces all of us into tiered plans.
For existing customers, Amazon has the Galaxy Nexus for $150. (50 bucks cheaper than Verizon)
For NEW customers, the Nexus goes for $50.
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$150? That aint bad at all
EDIT: Maybe I'm missing something. I'm not seeing it for that price.
EDIT 2: Nevermind. I see it. Nice.
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Well it looks like if I did that, I would need to make changes to my contract. Early termination fee, blah blah blah, etc. If I did it without contract changes it would be $649. So
I just read that since the Galaxy Nexus does not have removable storage the phone does not have USB mass storage. It instead uses MTP.
From what I've read, it seems like data transfer is slower with MTP and you cannot connect it to devices that read stored mp3's through things like Ford Sync (in cars). Also, the phone cannot just sync to photo software? I'm guessing to update and sort out which photos are new?
Does anyone have any information on the MTP vs. UMS?
As much as I detested everyone else leaving the X2 and leaving us behind, I really don't want to be stuck with this phone. Even though there are phone comparison topics found throughout various threads, maybe it would be best if there was one thread dedicated to users looking to share info on phones for comparison sake.
I will also say, $150 just looks so much better than $200 (especially since I have $50 gift card).
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[/COLOR]Well it looks like if I did that, I would need to make changes to my contract. Early termination fee, blah blah blah, etc. If I did it without contract changes it would be $649. So
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Are you selecting upgrade existin line? I didn't see anything about early termination fee. It even lists out the option to keep unlimited data.
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Are you selecting upgrade existin line? I didn't see anything about early termination fee. It even lists out the option to keep unlimited data.
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Maybe I'm taking the early termination fee thing out of context. I think its just warning you about the fee if you cancel after 14 days. But I'm not eligible for an upgrade until April of next year. This would be a contract extension but would amazon or Verizon allow it?
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Maybe I'm taking the early termination fee thing out of context. I think its just warning you about the fee if you cancel after 14 days. But I'm not eligible for an upgrade until April of next year. This would be a contract extension but would amazon or Verizon allow it?
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no they wouldnt allow that. they want you to buy if for $650 or have to pay the early termination which is insane.
Eh dont panic about the Nexus not being there. It is reasonably priced at $200 w/2yr and that price can only go down. Granted, that decrease will take some time but the point is the phone is amazing and worth paying that extra money.
FWIW, Nitro and Ace just started developing for the Bionic, so if youre poor like me and your phone is physically dying, a *free* 4G device sounds pretty darn good
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Eh dont panic about the Nexus not being there. It is reasonably priced at $200 w/2yr and that price can only go down. Granted, that decrease will take some time but the point is the phone is amazing and worth paying that extra money.
FWIW, Nitro and Ace just started developing for the Bionic, so if youre poor like me and your phone is physically dying, a *free* 4G device sounds pretty darn good
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I was even thinking about the droid incredible. I could get a used one on ebay for 70 bucks and not mess with my contract. Dont really know if thats an "upgrade" though. lol
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I was even thinking about the droid incredible. I could get a used one on ebay for 70 bucks and not mess with my contract. Dont really know if thats an "upgrade" though. lol
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nooo thats fine. your getting it off contract. it DOESNT affect your contract. just enter the MEID on the computer and whala!
Well Im just doing research right now. My power button is starting to crap out so if it does, I need to get a new phone. Unless Verizon will just send me a replacement which I will try first. They better, otherwise what the hell am I paying for insurance on this thing? lol
Hopefully Assurion, Verizon's insurance company, has run out of stock for the X2s and you can get something better.
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Well Im just doing research right now. My power button is starting to crap out so if it does, I need to get a new phone. Unless Verizon will just send me a replacement which I will try first. They better, otherwise what the hell am I paying for insurance on this thing? lol
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I'm confident that if and when my physical buttons fall out, Verizon won't hesitate to replace the device. I believe the warranty clause covers physical damages/failures fully.
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I'm confident that if and when my physical buttons fall out, Verizon won't hesitate to replace the device. I believe the warranty clause covers physical damages/failures fully.
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Thanks. I may look into that then.
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Just a head's-up for anybody looking to update before the data plan change.
I think this also includes all Motorola phone's
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um.. what do you mean by data change?? I have been sitting on a upgrade since Jan. should I do it now?? -thx
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If you want to keep your unlimited data and extend it for two years, upgrade now.
If you use that upgrade after July 7, you'll lose your unlimited plan and be dropped down to a 2gb of data limit per month for the same price your paying now for unlimited.
Btw if your holding out for the incred 4g, the rezound is better
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I picked mine up. .. With a ship date by 11/27!?
I really hope it doesn't take that long.
http://shop.verizonwireless.com/?id=galaxynote2
November 27? Wow
It sucks indeed along with the $699 full retail price I paid. Whatever though Ive wanted since we never got the first one. Atleast its coming!
Yes the delay is really unacceptable as well as tbe retail price. I will try to order one today, seeimg as there is no rush.
I really think their stalling to let HTC's Droid branded phablet get a jump on sales it's set to release soon too last I heard.
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Am I gonna lose my Unlimited LTE if I get this phone with 2yr contract?
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Am I gonna lose my Unlimited LTE if I get this phone with 2yr contract?
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So... I'm looking to buy this off contract since I'm not loosing my unlimited data. Currently I only have a 3g phone and never had a 4g plan (3g unlimited is mine), would activating a phone that was purchased without a plan make me loose my unlimited, or have a limited 4g plan???
And yeah this delay is ridiculous, it's a good legitimate complaint that could get the upgrade fee waved for some.
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So... I'm looking to buy this off contract since I'm not loosing my unlimited data. Currently I only have a 3g phone and never had a 4g plan (3g unlimited is mine), would activating a phone that was purchased without a plan make me loose my unlimited, or have a limited 4g plan???
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Good question. I'm not sure, about the 3g to 4g, but my guess is you should be fine. You'll need to get a new SIM for 4g. Best bet is to contact Verizon support and ask if it affects your data plan at all. Hold on to it while you can! Rumors have it that the unlimited plan will end this spring.. You may want to do the math and see if it'd be worth it or not.
The only way to avoid the tiered data plans is by purchasing the phone outright. So as long as you're not buying the phone from Verizon at their 2-year contract/upgrade price, you're keeping you're unlimited data.
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Good question. I'm not sure, about the 3g to 4g, but my guess is you should be fine. You'll need to get a new SIM for 4g. Best bet is to contact Verizon support and ask if it affects your data plan at all. Hold on to it while you can! Rumors have it that the unlimited plan will end this spring.. You may want to do the math and see if it'd be worth it or not.
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If it ends this spring I'll buy it on contract I can live (barely) with 2Gb data a month. If I remember correctly the ETF fee is waived if they change your contract terms, not sure if that's if they notify you or not, i.e. a surprise FU from big red is reason to waive the ETF.
I'll get on the phone soon, thanks.
Got mine preordered today. Supposed to ship by 11/27 also. Cost me 740 and change but worth to keep unlimited data. Funny thing is the rep on the phone didnt even know what the note 2 was. Lol. Funny we know this and they dont.
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So... I'm looking to buy this off contract since I'm not loosing my unlimited data. Currently I only have a 3g phone and never had a 4g plan (3g unlimited is mine), would activating a phone that was purchased without a plan make me loose my unlimited, or have a limited 4g plan???
And yeah this delay is ridiculous, it's a good legitimate complaint that could get the upgrade fee waved for some.
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I was bored so i called and asked your above question about coming from 3 to 4g. I spoke with the contract department so they say and they said if u pay full retail u will keep unlimited no matter what as long as its smartphone to smartphone. Going from 3g to 4g phone doesnt matter. Just make sure when u ordered or buy it u make sure u still have unlimited data. When i bought my S3 full retail they changed my unlimited data to one of their BS plans and i had go through over aweek of calling to get it fixed back. I also asked if paying retail to keep unlimited data was going to be ending by next spring and he said there is no imformation or plans to do that. Doesnt mean much since i/we usually know more than their employees do. All i can say is screw u big red for getting rid of unlimited data in the first place.
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Its bull that att is going get it on nov 6 .. why the hell is it taking verizon a month longer to get theres in? Cause of some crappy branding?
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Its bull that att is going get it on nov 6 .. why the hell is it taking verizon a month longer to get theres in? Cause of some crappy branding?
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Branding and locking the bootloader, just like the s3
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I was bored so i called and asked your above question about coming from 3 to 4g. I spoke with the contract department so they say and they said if u pay full retail u will keep unlimited no matter what as long as its smartphone to smartphone. Going from 3g to 4g phone doesnt matter. Just make sure when u ordered or buy it u make sure u still have unlimited data. When i bought my S3 full retail they changed my unlimited data to one of their BS plans and i had go through over aweek of calling to get it fixed back. I also asked if paying retail to keep unlimited data was going to be ending by next spring and he said there is no imformation or plans to do that. Doesnt mean much since i/we usually know more than their employees do. All i can say is screw u big red for getting rid of unlimited data in the first place.
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Thanks for the info If they are going to kill unlimited the phone would still be cheaper with the ETF fee paid (by ~$125 assuming they add it to the advanced devices page). If taking a subsidized phone means I have to go onto that BS share everything (get less) for the same price plan that means I'm going to pay full retail.
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Branding and locking the bootloader, just like the s3
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Don't forget VZW navigator and useless bloat ware/garbage like that...
Perhaps the delay is to sell more RAZR HD and Maxxs more than the HTC DLX?
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Its bull that att is going get it on nov 6 .. why the hell is it taking verizon a month longer to get theres in? Cause of some crappy branding?
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I noticed the first feature under multi-tasking is the "multi-window" feature. Since most US carriers dont have that feature from my understanding, maybe its to allow time to include the newest possible firmware? (long shot I know, but im bored and sick of waiting just like you guys and looking for any rays of light)
I am going to complain about the release date to directly to Verizon. I really doubt that they are releasing the phone late to improve anything. It is more likely that they are holding off the release to sell another device (as mentioned above).
Verizon seems to take customer complaints serious. This whole release has been a disaster.
Let me know what you send Ill spam em too
Okay I have a few ideas about getting a discounted phone and keeping unlimited data. First off my line is available for an upgrade this November, and another member of my family has an upgrade now, they do not have a smartphone now but will be getting a smartphone with 2gb data. So my first idea is once they get there upgrade, wait until mine is available and then transfer it to their line and have them upgrade again, and then I take that phone and put my sim card into it. Now I'm not sure, but I think the problem with that is when transferring my upgrade and having someone use it, will extend my contract and bump me to tired data, which I can't have happen. So if any of you have tried this method and had success I would really appreciate if you could tell me exactly how you did it.
The other method I read about was having a rep transfer the unlimited data plan to a tired data plan within the family and transferring the tired to the used to be unlimited, and then upgrading with tired data, and then switching the respective data plans back and maintaining unlimited data.
Again if anyone has had any luck with any of these ideas, or were able to keep your unlimited and get a subsidized phone another way, I would really appreciate it if you could leave a detailed response.
Thanks!!
You can use the other person's upgrade no problem, but if anyone uses yours, you will need a new contract and lose unlimited. I don't know about the more complex tiered data switching scheme... sounds like something that might work if the reps were feeling very charitable.
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You can use the other person's upgrade no problem, but if anyone uses yours, you will need a new contract and lose unlimited. I don't know about the more complex tiered data switching scheme... sounds like something that might work if the reps were feeling very charitable.
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Friend, just go to Gazelle and get a nice used phone for a couple hundred bucks and call it a day.
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You can use another family members upgrade by swapping phones after they upgrade, but you can't give your upgrade to someone else without losing unlimited. So either you convince your family member to give them your upgrade and you give them your old phone, you don't have many other options.
Thanks everyone. It sucks Verizon is doing this to its grandfathered users, but I guess I will just have to keep using the Thunderbolt until I have enough to buy a phone of contract.
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Thanks everyone. It sucks Verizon is doing this to its grandfathered users, but I guess I will just have to keep using the Thunderbolt until I have enough to buy a phone of contract.
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Hell yeah, I used 8 gb last month w/ wifi tether...not giving that up for no one lol
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Hell yeah, I used 8 gb last month w/ wifi tether...not giving that up for no one lol
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The funny thing is, I typically use around 3GB per month, even when I tether. I just hate the idea of always checking how much data I used to ensure that I don't go over!
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The funny thing is, I typically use around 3GB per month, even when I tether. I just hate the idea of always checking how much data I used to ensure that I don't go over!
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I'm kind of in the same boat. I am pretty much always on wifi now because I work from home, but I don't want to lose unlimited data in case I ever feel like using more data again. Been considering making a switch over to T-Mobile next time I feel like upgrading.
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I'm kind of in the same boat. I am pretty much always on wifi now because I work from home, but I don't want to lose unlimited data in case I ever feel like using more data again. Been considering making a switch over to T-Mobile next time I feel like upgrading.
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I would love to switch to T-Mobile, but I'm about 15 minutes from the city so I only get 2G here, and I could never live with that. If you do go T-Mobile, I'd check out either the $30/mo. for 100 minutes with unlimited text and data, or the $50 unlimited everything.
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I would love to switch to T-Mobile, but I'm about 15 minutes from the city so I only get 2G here, and I could never live with that. If you do go T-Mobile, I'd check out either the $30/mo. for 100 minutes with unlimited text and data, or the $50 unlimited everything.
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I'm contemplating checking their service out. $50 unlimited everything works well for me since I do make fair use of minutes at times (mostly work-related). If their service in my area is good, I could see getting the Note 2 from them rather than buy it unsubsidized from Verizon.
Regarding the earlier comment about giving your upgrade to someone else, have you verified this? I had read through the grapevine an ok workaround was to transfer your upgrade to another line, use it, then activate it on your line again to bypass all the stuff. Just don't want to try the wrong thing when the time comes and get spanked for it hah.
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Regarding the earlier comment about giving your upgrade to someone else, have you verified this? I had read through the grapevine an ok workaround was to transfer your upgrade to another line, use it, then activate it on your line again to bypass all the stuff. Just don't want to try the wrong thing when the time comes and get spanked for it hah.
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If memory serves me correct it will lock you in for a 2 year contract so you would end up paying for 2 separate lines that way but I am not totally sure there.
Oh, we have the lines. And dumbphones on them that are used (grandparents on jitterbug like phones...heh) I know I can get away with upgrading one of those lines, then activating it on mine. I was just hoping someone had tried transferring the upgrade from smartphone to another line, upgrading, then activating back on real line. In essence, still using your own upgrading and just subverting contractual stuff by doing all the action on another line.
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I'm contemplating checking their service out. $50 unlimited everything works well for me since I do make fair use of minutes at times (mostly work-related). If their service in my area is good, I could see getting the Note 2 from them rather than buy it unsubsidized from Verizon.
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You should check out the T-mobile thread in the Galaxy S3 section before switching. There are a lot of comments regarding the poor quality of service.
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You should check out the T-mobile thread in the Galaxy S3 section before switching. There are a lot of comments regarding the poor quality of service.
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Think that has to do with the Samsung radio gripe which is really hit and miss but can be a problem. My mom has a g nex that gets a little flaky at times at home because of it. Before I put the update on it basically it was a coaster in my hosue
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You should check out the T-mobile thread in the Galaxy S3 section before switching. There are a lot of comments regarding the poor quality of service.
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I'll need to take a look at that and Note 2 discussion on T-Mobile. My area is possibly iffy for T-Mobile, which is why I'm concerned. AT&T was historically a problem. Verizon has had the best coverage at home so I'm reluctant to move away from them.
Just thought I should share my thoughts regarding my latest warranty exchange....my WiFi was having issues on stock Rom unrooted so I called Verizon and see what they could offer.
Battery pull and network refresh(really? I didn't know WiFi was part of the Verizon network but OK)
Factory reset(I though alright atleast were in the right area....)
Finally she proceeded to order me a replacement while telling me that Verizon doesn't tolerate abuse of the network or altering of devices, I asked why do you believe its altered and where is this abuse of your network? she replies, you use an extreme amount of data that is not likely to be consumed soley on the phone.
I couldn't stop laughing, I HONESTLY asked her if she got that from an episode of CSI? I then told her my unlimited plan doesn't include a clause for intruding questions about assumptions on how I use my phone. She quickly backed off and gave me a tracking number for the shipping.
I just was truly caught off guard after the years of having my plan and NEVER being questioned like this LOL....just my interaction and wanted to pass it along
Out of curiosity how much data was it? If you'd happen to know ?
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Unlimited!
Last month I used 96GB. I'm only half way through this billing cycle and already up to 52GB
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Last month I used 96GB. I'm only half way through this billing cycle and already up to 52GB
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Holly Crap Batman thats a lota data but you have the right to use it. Thats why the plan is called "Unlimited" right?
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Holly Crap Batman thats a lota data but you have the right to use it. Thats why the plan is called "Unlimited" right?
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That's what I'm saying.
When I called Verizon the week of the DNA launch, I asked the local store if they would have any devices in on that day. The rep asked me if I was upgrading my line and if I was he tried to sell me the SG3. I told him I was not upgrading, I didn't want that pos, and am planning to buy the DNA at retail price. His statement I clearly remember "Why on earth would you pay $600 for THAT phone when clearly you are eligible and able to get a better phone for $99" ... I said nicely that I would like to keep my unlimited data plan. Then he asked me, how much data do I use on a monthly basis ... I replied, usually 30-40GB+ depending. He said "depending?!! that much data should not be allowed, how can one person abuse Verizon..." I just interrupted him loudly saying ...I have UNLIMITED, UNLIMITED means there is no LIMIT! and hung up.
Since then, I blow my data out the water. Hit over 100GB last month myself and plan to do it continually
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That's what I'm saying.
When I called Verizon the week of the DNA launch, I asked the local store if they would have any devices in on that day. The rep asked me if I was upgrading my line and if I was he tried to sell me the SG3. I told him I was not upgrading, I didn't want that pos, and am planning to buy the DNA at retail price. His statement I clearly remember "Why on earth would you pay $600 for THAT phone when clearly you are eligible and able to get a better phone for $99" ... I said nicely that I would like to keep my unlimited data plan. Then he asked me, how much data do I use on a monthly basis ... I replied, usually 30-40GB+ depending. He said "depending?!! that much data should not be allowed, how can one person abuse Verizon..." I just interrupted him loudly saying ...I have UNLIMITED, UNLIMITED means there is no LIMIT! and hung up.
Since then, I blow my data out the water. Hit over 100GB last month myself and plan to do it continually
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I just think it's funny that people try to say the unlimited plans were taken away "because of people like you". The reality is that Verizon got rid of unlimited plans because they want to make more money. It has very little to do with the few people here and there who "abuse" their unlimited data.
I personally have unlimited and use as little as 2GB or as much as 10GB on any given month...
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I just think it's funny that people try to say the unlimited plans were taken away "because of people like you". The reality is that Verizon got rid of unlimited plans because they want to make more money. It has very little to do with the few people here and there who "abuse" their unlimited data.
I personally have unlimited and use as little as 2GB or as much as 10GB on any given month...
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Netflix, Downloading ROMs, DropBox (Auto-Upload:I take a lot of pictures and videos) YouTube, Google Music (have no problem streaming 2GB a day worth of music)
So I'm not really "abusing" I'm just taking advantage of my unlimited data, especially since the DNA only has a set amount of storage.
Now me downloading the Windows 7/SP1 ISO files from Microsoft every day would be "abusing" yet still legit
and it is all about Verizon wanting more money... They charging you for data usage and selling you phones without sdcards, forcing you to use their data to use your cloud storage
I think Verizon is "abusing" us!
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Netflix, Downloading ROMs, DropBox (Auto-Upload:I take a lot of pictures and videos) YouTube, Google Music (have no problem streaming 2GB a day worth of music)
So I'm not really "abusing" I'm just taking advantage of my unlimited data, especially since the DNA only has a set amount of storage.
Now me downloading the Windows 7/SP1 ISO files from Microsoft every day would be "abusing" yet still legit
and it is all about Verizon wanting more money... They charging you for data usage and selling you phones without sdcards, forcing you to use their data to use your cloud storage
I think Verizon is "abusing" us!
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I agree, Work got me on trips all the time. When at hotels, WiFi costs extra. My phone is the alternative... That uses majority me data there.
I went the route of adding an extra line to get my DNA, came out cheaper that retail!
$199 - for phone with contract
$240 - $10/month for the extra line (2yrs)
$30 - they activate data on the line, switch your two phones then cut the data off the secondary line
I got my DNA for a little over $480 with a pack of 5 free screen protectors lol
My experience with Verizon's customer service has been horrible. If Sprint had the coverage of Verizon, I would still be with them. They finally made things right with me when I was able to do an early upgrade to get my Droid DNA. I was ready to jump back to Sprint lol
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Out of curiosity how much data was it? If you'd happen to know ?
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Well this month it was roughly 132gb as I recall, I've gotten as high as 200gb before. Bottom line is I pay for unlimited and have had this plan going on six years so lets see 12x6=72x30=2160. That's 2,160 reasons why I don't need to explain myself about how or why I use my phone
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I hope you all know eventually they are going to remove the unlimited data plan from everyone. Even when I had unlimited my 3g speeds were so slow on my old phone I never used it, I never even hit 1gb and I still haven't. The most I have ever used was 500mb. But I guess you guys can do as you please since you have unlimited. They can't stop you until they take it away...
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Netflix, Downloading ROMs, DropBox (Auto-Upload:I take a lot of pictures and videos) YouTube, Google Music (have no problem streaming 2GB a day worth of music)
So I'm not really "abusing" I'm just taking advantage of my unlimited data, especially since the DNA only has a set amount of storage.
Now me downloading the Windows 7/SP1 ISO files from Microsoft every day would be "abusing" yet still legit
and it is all about Verizon wanting more money... They charging you for data usage and selling you phones without sdcards, forcing you to use their data to use your cloud storage
I think Verizon is "abusing" us!
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Sad thing is I watched a sales rep convice a friend to switch and she got an iPad thinking there's no way I can use all that data they are offering.....sadly she called me the next day saying Verizon ****ed me now......now she's right around same price monthly and is limited
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^ interesting. I'm new to Verizon and the phone so I have a limited plan but a co worker of mine long time Verizon person has the unlimited plan he says they tried with him also to change the plan he refused. That's some pretty high usuage you use hehe. I can def see how it can be pretty high I don't use my carrier internet to much but just from streaming music and uploading pictures alone gets me a lot of usage.
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Out of curiosity, what are you doing to use that much data? The highest I've gone was like 10 gigs. I don't think I could go any higher if I tried.
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Battery pull and network refresh(really? I didn't know WiFi was part of the Verizon network but OK)
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???
mkzbdroid said:
Battery pull and network refresh(really? I didn't know WiFi was part of the Verizon network but OK)
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I was wondering the same thing. I'm about to get my Droid RAZR replaced to a DNA through warranty and the rep told me I had to pay for the battery and battery cover... I was under the impression that the battery was non-removable. I even have another thread asking this very question and the answer I got was that it was not removable.
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I was wondering the same thing. I'm about to get my Droid RAZR replaced to a DNA through warranty and the rep told me I had to pay for the battery and battery cover... I was under the impression that the battery was non-removable. I even have another thread asking this very question and the answer I got was that it was not removable.
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The battery on the DNA and back cover are NOT removable.
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Well this month it was roughly 132gb as I recall, I've gotten as high as 200gb before. Bottom line is I pay for unlimited and have had this plan going on six years so lets see 12x6=72x30=2160. That's 2,160 reasons why I don't need to explain myself about how or why I use my phone.
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Would you be kind enough to explain to someone (a noob) who isn't knowledgeable enough as to understand how a user could use 200 gb a month?
Could someone use 2000gb......8000gb....or a lot more then that a month?
Please tell me how that would be possible even given exaggerated use. I am new to this, and really don't know.
Thanks,
Dan
ScreenSpace said:
Would you be kind enough to explain to someone (a noob) who isn't knowledgeable enough as to understand how a user could use 200 gb a month?
Could someone use 2000gb......8000gb....or a lot more then that a month?
Please tell me how that would be possible even given exaggerated use. I am new to this, and really don't know.
Thanks,
Dan
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It's could be possible...
1. Get root
2. Install WiFi tether
3. Enjoy the 4g speeds from laptop
4. ....torrent 24/7 to get your exaggerated use
-HTC Droid DNA-
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It's could be possible...
1. Get root
2. Install WiFi tether
3. Enjoy the 4g speeds from laptop
4. ....torrent 24/7 to get your exaggerated use
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Thank You!
I now see it!
Dan
Yes some are bone heads but some aren't. Here's my recent experience.
I have 4 phones on my account with a 10 gig shared data plan. My daughter wanted to move from Sprint to Verizon so my wife and I went to a Verizon store to help her through the transaction. One of the first things I do when I talk to one of the CS reps is state my position and what I want from this conversation with him/her. I like to see what they know or don't know. My rep, John, saw that I wasn't an average clueless customer and he immediately shifted into a smarter mode. Kudos for that.
So, my daughter decides on a Moto X. He runs the numbers and quickly figures out that it's much cheaper for her to join our family plan. No problem, we'll do that. She now pays us monthly for 1/5 of the total bill.
Then he pulls this one: "I'd like for you to look at the Edge plan for that Moto X." Ok, I'm not dumb, I've read all about the Edge plan. Yes it's no contract and yes you can switch to a new phone after a year but you pay for the phone as you go. I've looked at the numbers and it never makes sense to get Edge unless you just can't wait to upgrade phones. But boy do you pay for it.
Right now my opinion of John is changing. He's trying to pull a fast one. So I object saying, "I'm not interested in Edge." He comes back with, "What if I can prove it saves you money?" "OK, wise guy," I'm thinking, "do you take me for an idiot? Show me how smart you are, bonehead." Instead, I say, "Really? How?"
And he shows me. The way the Edge program works is that the monthly cost of the phone on an Edge plan is retail cost divided into 20 months. In the case of the Moto X it's $400 retail or $20 per month. Turns out if you have a 10 gig, or higher, data plan they discount the Edge program by $25 for EACH phone on the Edge plan. So, in her case the $20 plan minus the $25 discount reduced the plan by $5 compared to a 2 year subsidized contract. "So," I thought, "this guy really knew what he was doing."
Other advantages to Edge: The phone can be upgraded after 60% of the retail price is paid off. That's 12 months. If you want to trade it in sooner than 12 months then pay the difference to get up to 60%. This is a trade-in, you don't keep the phone. However, if you do keep the phone for 20 months it's yours to keep, no trade in necessary.
The break even point is phone that retails for $500. At that point the monthly payment is $25 and the discount is $25.
An HTC One and LG G2 are break even on Edge. A Note 3, S5 and LG G3 are only $5 more on Edge. All in all, it turns out, Edge is a pretty good deal if you have the 10 Gig plan.
In the end, my daughter was happy, I'm happy and it was a great experience. So, not all CS reps are idiots.
Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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You can say that again
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You can say that again
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Yeah. Because of how much data I use, they told me they would give me all the deals of a more everything plan plus 20% off my whole bill. Then I said I already have 20% off through a worker who worked there years ago. They said it would add on top of that. So 40% off plus what ever more eveything. But given how much data I use, wouldn't do anything for me.
You lost me at "some aren't"
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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Deekayy said:
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
TabGuy said:
For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
kinstre11 said:
This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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Yes I am well aware...see my posts in that thread.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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No you are not under a contract when month to month. There are no binding terms keeping me locked to any set rules or conditions. However, there is the TOS I agreed to back when I first joined. Aside from that I have been a VZW customer for 15yrs and they have never ended or terminated any service I have had with them. They may discontinue a older plan, but they have never forced me off of any plan I was on. I have no reason to believe they would start doing such things. Just because they did away with the loop hole(add a line/transfer device/put dumb phone on added line) to keep unlimited does not mean they are going to start forcing people off thier unlimited plans. Even if they did, I would simply jump on a shared plan...it is what it is.
Boy did I luck out. Just read this about august 24th. I got a note 3 yesterday! Still unlimited.... and my upgrade I'd in November, seems like people better get their phones now! So what if you buy a used phone and swap sims?? Post Aug 24th...
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Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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the problem with putting any stock in what your account manager says is the simple fact that one could speak to 10 different account managers and get 10 different answers.
Amen to that, verizon employees must not have group trainings as they All seem to have a different answer for you.
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Most people do not realize the 25 dollar credit per edge line per month on the bill.
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