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Hi,
In anticipation of the great work our devs are doing, like porting vanilla 1.6 to Hero, I wanted to put some stock Android apps on my Hero.
The reason for this is; I like the original Android UI better.
I made a list of which Android apps I would like to have on my Hero, I will update the startpost with added howto's, for the people interested.
Ofcourse, I am not capable of doing 'real dev' work, if that was the case, I would try to help port 1.6 to the Hero. But this is all I can do at the moment and I hope I can contribute this way to the community.
[done]
-Home app: download "home switcher" from the Market
[to do]
-sms application
-music player
-calendar
-browser
-cellphone /dialer application
-contact list
-camera application
-albums application
I think if we work together to make the original apps work, we have a viable alternative to a 'real vanilla' android Hero rom. Also I could be more easy to just modify the original Hero roms; when the HTC branded 1.6 and 2.0 will come out, we will know how to switch the apps, which I anticipate to be more easy than porting the kernel, and rebuilding everything, etc
The following stage would be to delete the old apps, and to make Android as clean as possible.
Ofcourse, only for those who want it. A lot of people love the Sense UI and the HTC apps, and that is good. Android is about choice
Also, I will look on how to change the apps, just comment if you know if a certain app can be restored, and even better, if you know how to.
Thanks in advance, everybody!
E2K said:
Hi,
[done]
-Home app: download "home switcher" from the Market
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yeah, it is way easier to set this through application preferences in the phones settings, nothing so special about that.
E2K said:
[to do]
-sms application
-music player
-calendar
-browser
-cellphone /dialer application
-contact list
-camera application
-albums application
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did you check which of these are modified by htc anyway?
tbh i don't really care for a vanilla android, but afaik at least the camera application is the stock android one even in htc roms...
Yes, I checked all those applications:
In the Application properties you can see that it says "hTC Application" after you press the info key.
And in the application list (from the settings menu) it says "HTC corporation" under all the HTC rebranded apps.
edit: the HTC camera application has a different interface
so does anyone know how to get certain original apps back?
How can i remove the sense interface? I'm on modaco 2.8 but don't know for sure what i can delete
Just try that : http://android.modaco.com/content/h...7/13-08-1-0-modaco-hero-rosie-remover/#entry0
(you can download the zip and see in the rep MANIFEST what the update do and do it in adb shell)
delete SYSTEM:app/Rosie.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Rosie.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htcbookmarkwidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcbookmarkwidget.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htccalendarwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htccalendarwidgets.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htccontactwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htccontactwidgets.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htcmailwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcmailwidgets.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htcmsgwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcmsgwidgets.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htcsearchwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcsearchwidgets.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/htcsettingwidgets.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/htcsettingwidgets.odex
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this is what happens for the update.zip, just do a nandroid backup and try it?
i read in some forum that the camera app was identical, sry for that. did you find actual differences in the application, besides from the htc strings?
kendong2 said:
this is what happens for the update.zip, just do a nandroid backup and try it?
i read in some forum that the camera app was identical, sry for that. did you find actual differences in the application, besides from the htc strings?
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Thanks for what what the update.zip changes.
As you can see, it had widget next to everything, which means it only deletes the widget 'front ends' of these applications. It will not restore the stock android apps, like the browser or the music player.
I am trying to contact some Dream-developers/modders as they appear very capable and knowledgeable. They should be able to help us out.
Again, when we learn how to replace the HTC apps, we can have a 'clean' rom in notime, regardless of the android version. For example, if HTC released 2.0, but with sense and all that, we could just delete that, and change out the applications so we end up with a very fast, and clean rom.
I don't have a lot of faith in people porting over/ compiling a fresh, complete and fully working version for the Hero ..
any suggestions
Does anyone know if it is possible to replace the htc apps with the stock google android apps on Hero?
The list in the initial post contains all the apps I need.
I find it strange that this is not possible after such a long time. I would really have my Hero all stock Android. I dont like the HTC approach to things. Why is it so hard to replace the HTC apps with stock Android apps?
Fredriksen said:
I find it strange that this is not possible after such a long time. I would really have my Hero all stock Android. I dont like the HTC approach to things. Why is it so hard to replace the HTC apps with stock Android apps?
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Partly because not all the stock apps are that easy to get, partly because HTC has stuck their brand on practically everything, and partly because if you replace one you have to replace others, else the apk signatures (especially with shared users and other dependencies) don't match. And if we're talking about the Sprint Hero, it gets even worse, because HTC had to modify the core framework beyond recognition, so that it would work with CDMA (so it's possible that just grabbing a vanilla apk, resigning it, and throwing it on there wouldn't work anyway).
All that is just conjecture though, as I haven't tried any of it aside from the Calendar app (gave up cause it didn't work immediately and I didn't have the time). Maybe I'll have time to try it this weekend and see how much can be replaced.
Great explanation, thanks. I miss Windows Mobile (Phone, whatever) where things like these were much easier to adjust without all this hassle.
If you manage to pull it of you will be my ...erm... Hero.
Yeah, the best of luck!
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Partly because not all the stock apps are that easy to get, partly because HTC has stuck their brand on practically everything, and partly because if you replace one you have to replace others, else the apk signatures (especially with shared users and other dependencies) don't match. And if we're talking about the Sprint Hero, it gets even worse, because HTC had to modify the core framework beyond recognition, so that it would work with CDMA (so it's possible that just grabbing a vanilla apk, resigning it, and throwing it on there wouldn't work anyway).
All that is just conjecture though, as I haven't tried any of it aside from the Calendar app (gave up cause it didn't work immediately and I didn't have the time). Maybe I'll have time to try it this weekend and see how much can be replaced.
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did you find out anything?
greetings!
hi
here's a little pet peeve of mine
whenever i go to share a picture, website link, etc i am presented with a *huge* list of apps that i could ever possibly use
but here's the truth - i only ever use three (maybe four) of those apps
and, just an extra bonus, those three or four are distributed all up and down that list - and yeah, the gmail icon is at the bottom! lol
is there *any* way to modify that list??
or an app that lets us mod that list??
i'm asking you guys cuz you would know
and... if anybody wants an idea for an app to build... there ya go! i'd pay 99cents (heck, probably even 1.99) for such an app!
and, while i'm asking, i might as well say what would be just killer features ---- allow us to pick the say top five apps that would always show up, and the last entry says "all" so the entire list becomes available
would be good to be able to sort the apps that show up in that list too
anyway.. just gonna throw that out there
??
no one has anything to say about this?
Shame that there are no replies, as this is also bugging me. Here's a bump for the topic.
Annoying me as well. Recently downloaded a QR app and the damn thing added TWO entries. I'd love to be able to remove everything but email, facebook, and messaging...
How can this still be an issue
I can't believe there's no way to filter the list or at least sort the list in order used.
'Intents' and MIME-types
Recently I find that I've become rater annoyed with the list for "share via", and started wondering how I might go about deleting specific items or at the very least rearrange the order in which they appear.
I've been unable to find the answer, as most threads, only consist of the question, and no answers.
I did however find out that what causes an app to appear in the "share via"-list is an 'Intents'-argument with regards to MIME-types (.jpg or .txt etc.) when coding the app.
See: (add the http yourselves, as I'm unable to, with this being my first post)
stackoverflow .com/questions/7891473/how-to-write-an-android-share-plugin
&
stackoverflow .com/questions/3553017/android-share-via-dialog
That means, that in order to remove them from the list, we would need some app, like LBE Privacy Guard, that could limit the "offending" app's 'Intents' in certain regards.
However I've been unable to find anyone that seems to know which file to tweak in order to rearrange the order in which they appear.
I doubt this helps anyone very much, but it may just lead someone on the right path to maybe coming up with a fix for this.
Try 'Andmade Share' from the market, seems like it would be what you're after.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbmRtYWRlc29mdC5zaGFyZSJd
or
share customizer
Play link
Feature request added at code.google 2012-01-25
It would appear that a feature request has been put in at code.google at 2012-01-25
(Again add the http-part yourselves)
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24741
While we are waiting for this "obvious" feature, the above reply's seem to offer what I'm asking for, at least in an app, though it ought to be built in...
Thx a lot itscro & biopsin
EDIT: I think I'll pass on the Share Customizer, with all the funky (chinese?) writing, and dec. 2011 latest update.
Andmade Share however looks like a winner, and I like the fact, that it doesn't require any permissions...
Awesome. Andmade Share seems to do the trick. Love it when old threads are brought back to life and solve a problem.
Nitsson said:
Awesome. Andmade Share seems to do the trick. Love it when old threads are brought back to life and solve a problem.
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Can´t agree more with you, because this problem annoys me a long time now!
Regards,
Guido
Kosh_ac said:
Can´t agree more with you, because this problem annoys me a long time now!
Regards,
Guido
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Indeed, though it doesn't seem to work on Jelly Bean unfortunately.
Nitsson said:
Indeed, though it doesn't seem to work on Jelly Bean unfortunately.
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Maybe not right now, but give it time, JB isn't exactly widespread just yet.
Such is the cost of being on the bleeding edge...
Bawl said:
Maybe not right now, but give it time, JB isn't exactly widespread just yet.
Such is the cost of being on the bleeding edge...
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Its been quite awhile since this thread was active, but I'm hoping someone has something new on this topic. I can't find any other threads that cover this issue...
I am not entirely sure if this is an original request in here, or if it even belongs in here, so please dont kill me if I am wrong, just advise me whar to do next...
But, I am currently running DaGr8's ICS Aplha 2 rom, and noticed that the allshare app is missing, as well as a few others... Now I am also not entirely sure that these apps will work in this scenario, but if they will, or if they can be made to work, that would be awesome... i have also noticed that the photo editor appears to be missing, both of these apps are ones that I use pretty heavily, and would feel a bit more comeplete if I had them, but if they wont work on ICS, then they won't and I will just have to wait til the official OTA hits.
***Edit: if someone IS able to fullfill this request, would you be able to make a zip flashable in CWM for all apps, and then I can just peacemeal them myself through TiBu?
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martyr2k6 said:
I am not entirely sure if this is an original request in here, or if it even belongs in here, so please dont kill me if I am wrong, just advise me whar to do next...
But, I am currently running DaGr8's ICS Aplha 2 rom, and noticed that the allshare app is missing, as well as a few others... Now I am also not entirely sure that these apps will work in this scenario, but if they will, or if they can be made to work, that would be awesome... i have also noticed that the photo editor appears to be missing, both of these apps are ones that I use pretty heavily, and would feel a bit more comeplete if I had them, but if they wont work on ICS, then they won't and I will just have to wait til the official OTA hits.
***Edit: if someone IS able to fullfill this request, would you be able to make a zip flashable in CWM for all apps, and then I can just peacemeal them myself through TiBu?
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I'll second that request! if only for the photo editor that came stock with the i717.
I put a request in the NOOB forum and haven't heard anything yet...
I'm on stock deodexed 4.1.2.
I do have the Samsung apps on my phone, I don't know how to extract them for you, but the Photo Editor in particular is a crippled version without the features of the one that came with the phone on Android 2.3.6
xanderman said:
I'll second that request! if only for the photo editor that came stock with the i717.
I put a request in the NOOB forum and haven't heard anything yet...
I'm on stock deodexed 4.1.2.
I do have the Samsung apps on my phone, I don't know how to extract them for you, but the Photo Editor in particular is a crippled version without the features of the one that came with the phone on Android 2.3.6
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Here is the Samsung PhotoEditor that works with I717 4.1.2. Just install like a normal app.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17300857/PhotoEditor2.2.45.apk
After doing a bit of searching I think we're looking for a file called "com.sec.android.mimage.photoretouching-1.apk" with a size of 10-12MB but I haven't confirmed this yet or tested it, downloading a version I found right now...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/auvwb5sjr3ee82b/com.sec.android.mimage.photoretouching-1.apk
The one I posted is 12mb, integrates with photo gallery and has Spen edit support. I think the photo retouching apk is what it was called on GB & ICS.
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Thanks for the quick help, unfortunately both of the links are for similar versions of the same apk, and are not the one I was looking for.
I don't even know for sure if the editing I was doing was on the stock image editor, but the app allowed the use of a magic wand to select areas of a photo, transform the area to resize an object and fill any voids left by shrinking, etc...
I can't find anything on the market or Samsung market so I thought maybe it was left off of Samsungs updated image editor?
xanderman said:
After doing a bit of searching I think we're looking for a file called "com.sec.android.mimage.photoretouching-1.apk" with a size of 10-12MB but I haven't confirmed this yet or tested it, downloading a version I found right now...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/auvwb5sjr3ee82b/com.sec.android.mimage.photoretouching-1.apk
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I was like you guys and tried searching for the app. I found a few, installed them but they only partially worked. Even on the stock 4.1.2 they weren't fully functional.
probably missing some libs
First of all - sorry for posting it here, i don't mean to be in your face, it's just all discussions about this topic in other threads or posts went nowhere and i also think it didn't get enough attention from the developers. So, i just wanted to start a new thread dedicated to just this feature, since i believe this is one of the most useful features which is somehow got missed in these devices.
I'm talking about the ability to use GP5 to make calls though and answer calls from other devices through bluetooth. I think it's nuts that Samsung didn't implement this feature in these players, since most if not all top range mp3 and media players from this manufacturer in the last 5-6 years have had this feature (my pretty basic 4 year old samsung mp3 player can do this easily). Some people wonder why i care about this, but in my opinion it is a killer feature, which really opens up so many different possibilities to these devices. Tablets with 3g and 4g are reasonably cheap these days, so more and more people buy them. When you have one of them, you naturally think about a possibility of making calls through it. I'm one of such people, i have a 10" 3g tablet and i would like to be able to call through it using my GP5.
I participate in 5-6 different forums dedicated to these devices (mostly european sites) and i see requests and questions from people about this feature almost on daily basis. I think there are hundreds of people out there who would love to have it in their GPs. What i know is that the new GP 3.6 and 4.2 have it and the older ones 4.0 and 5.0 don't. So, i'm begging you, somebody, please make a ROM with this feature! I have no experience in programming for Android, but i think it should be very easy to take code or a library or whatever it is from one device and put it into another, since all these players have pretty much the same hardware (to my knowledge).
Thank you for your attention.
I you can link to a 3.6 or 4.2 rom that I can pull from (can be stock, custom or whatever), I can possibly integrate it into my next release, although I give no promises. Also, as this is development, and this is slightly off topic, I recommend that you change your post tags to [Discussion][4.0, 5.0 US+INTL]Enabling handsfree calling, so that people understand that this is a discussion, not some random person begging for a feature.
Thanks for your reply, i'll have a look for such rom.
Ok, i've changed the tags of this thread. Thanks.
Thanks! I also meant the tags in the thread name, not the actual thread tags. I never use them, so I forgot .
Right, that's what i thought at first, but i see no way to change the name of the thread, unfortunately.
Right, that's what i thought at first, but i see no way to change the name of the thread, unfortunately.
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Edit the first post and click on the button called go advanced. Its at the top of the page
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ok, Mars11_ on this forum pointed me here ->source codes for samsung players, plus he also offered to get any files from his unrooted GP 3.6. Would any of this be of any help?
Supermaster34 said:
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great, thanks for the tip, done.
Thanks for the link! I will try and play around with some of the stuff included and see if I can come up with something. It may be just as simple as installing an apk...
Or maybe swapping bt libs would be all it takes.
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hanthesolo said:
Thanks for the link! I will try and play around with some of the stuff included and see if I can come up with something. It may be just as simple as installing an apk...
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oh, sweet, i'm all itching in anticipation! thanks mate!
this means the phone features also needs to be activated because it goes hand in hand im not a dev but im sure its more than installing an apk. i think this will also require some framework changes. also activating the sip calling feature will be very exciting as our SGP can sync contacts as well this can be done in galaxy note by just adb pushing some files to system dir and activating the hands free profile in htc flyer is as simple as editing the build.prop so im sure this is doable but we need to call in the attention of devs :good:
Bad news guys, the uncompiled image didn't help, and I was unable to open the .img that I pulled from a 3.6 rom. Could someone pull their entire /system directory (apply this terminal command: dd if=/dev/block/systemname of=/sdcard/factoryfs.rfs), and then pull it off their sdcard (internal) and upload it here (tar or zip it if you need to). I do not believe root is required for that, and I am able to access .rfs files to edit them. You can find the name of your system partition by punching in "mount" in the terminal and then finding /system in the output, and recording the partition name that follows (eg. my system partition on my 4.0 is /dev/block/stl9).
I was tinkering with my sgp amd found this if this might be of any help
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Ok, I've just sent an email to Mars11_, who's recently offered his help with extracting files from his SGP 3.6 in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28558588#post28558588
I asked him to come here and follow your instructions. He's our only hope right now.
Got responce from Mars11_ that's what he said: "Okay, so I've run the commands Hanthesolo had, but I didn't have read access to /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 . So I need root, and second, I can't post in the Android Dev yet, as I don't have 10 or more posts. "
Well, hat pretty much means that I can't pull anything together untilthe 3.6 gets root (I guess I could create a guide for that, but I don't have a 3.6, and I cannot exract anything from it's .img images). Sorry about that, but as soon as a /systm dump is uploaded, I will get on it. A last ditch attempt may be to use adb, but I think that you must have root to get su access from it as well. Perhaps you can boot into stock recovery and adb push the superuser binary and apk, that is, if the stock recovery supports adb, as I believe /system is mounted as rw in recovery. Perhaps a signed update.zip that only has superuser? I dunno, just some theories for 3.6 devs.
Mate, you have absolutely nothing to appologise for, you've done everything you could. I'm grateful for you desire to work on this. I guess we'll just have to be patient and wait for the 3.6 to be rooted Thank you.
Well, thanks for giving me a project to work on, because my sumer has just about fizzled out! I look forward to working on this while I wait for my Nexus 7 to arrive, and with it some more time-consuming hobbies .
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Well, hat pretty much means that I can't pull anything together untilthe 3.6 gets root (I guess I could create a guide for that, but I don't have a 3.6, and I cannot exract anything from it's .img images). Sorry about that, but as soon as a /systm dump is uploaded, I will get on it. A last ditch attempt may be to use adb, but I think that you must have root to get su access from it as well. Perhaps you can boot into stock recovery and adb push the superuser binary and apk, that is, if the stock recovery supports adb, as I believe /system is mounted as rw in recovery. Perhaps a signed update.zip that only has superuser? I dunno, just some theories for 3.6 devs.
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You can always try the korean system dump and see what it gives.
I am completely blown away with how terrible hangouts is. Other than aesthetics, the app is horrible.
1. No clean buddy list for GTalk friends. This one blows my mind. There is also not a separate list for phone contacts, which again, numbs my brain.
2. Much like the "most contacted" feature in gmail (I use the term "feature" sarcastically) you cannot change who is on your top list, nor do you have an option to hide it. You cant even erase who is listed there. This is absolutely garbage and needs to be removed.
FIXES:
1. Obviously, make a GTalk buddy list view.
2. Remove the "most contacted" area of hangouts. Stop being presumptuous and putting an ex-girlfriend on my most contacted list, who is no longer even in my phone or contacts list on Google...
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I am completely blown away with how terrible hangouts is. Other than aesthetics, the app is horrible.
1. No clean buddy list for GTalk friends. This one blows my mind. There is also not a separate list for phone contacts, which again, numbs my brain.
2. Much like the "most contacted" feature in gmail (I use the term "feature" sarcastically) you cannot change who is on your top list, nor do you have an option to hide it. You cant even erase who is listed there. This is absolutely garbage and needs to be removed.
FIXES:
1. Obviously, make a GTalk buddy list view.
2. Remove the "most contacted" area of hangouts. Stop being presumptuous and putting an ex-girlfriend on my most contacted list, who is no longer even in my phone or contacts list on Google...
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couldnt agree with you more, thank god i nandroided before installing hang outs... no clean buddy list and no clean statuses... what a joke, a shame to bc the ui is beautiful.
What happened to voice call?
In google talk you could voice call someone without the video feature running concurrently. Do you always have to video chat with someone in order to communicate via audio? Am I missing something here. The voice only feature in Talk seemed to work a lot better especially with slow connections. How can I download the old Google Talk(last version) without have to do an OS reinstall on my phone and tablet? It really sucks that Google removed Talk from my devices under the guise of upgrading the program.
Beggers can't be choosers.
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zappacat said:
In google talk you could voice call someone without the video feature running concurrently. Do you always have to video chat with someone in order to communicate via audio? Am I missing something here. The voice only feature in Talk seemed to work a lot better especially with slow connections. How can I download the old Google Talk(last version) without have to do an OS reinstall on my phone and tablet? It really sucks that Google removed Talk from my devices under the guise of upgrading the program.
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Go to Settings>Apps>Hangouts>Uninstall updates
you'll get your gtalk back
I know that current version is not upto the mark
but we can expect great additions later . After all its developed by those who developed Gtalk in the first place !
Also you can send your feedback , that will always help to improve your experience in the future :thumbup:
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soham jambhekar said:
I know that current version is not upto the mark
but we can expect great additions later . After all its developed by those who developed Gtalk in the first place !
Also you can send your feedback , that will always help to improve your experience in the future :thumbup:
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The current version sucks. Why take away something I'm already using that works and replace it with something that doesn't have the current features I'm enjoying? If you want to beta test their software go ahead.
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Stop being presumptuous and putting an ex-girlfriend on my most contacted list, who is no longer even in my phone or contacts list on Google...
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Hahaha, this. So much this.
To be fair, it's not just Google that does this sort of thing, the Windows 8 People Hub is even worse. Interesting that communication applications that allegedly put the user first don't make allowances for a tragically common component of regular human interaction - the break-up.
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